John's chart would not affect your Paces as Fluvanna Paces were all (as far as I know as of now)- John of Middlesex Paces and John's chart deals with the group 3 Paces exclusively. I have not seen any new information that would help with your line. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lois L. Carey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:19 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Group 3 DNA Charts-Cosby Alonzo-Kit # 57109 Since I have been trying to identify the Cosby name and a possible connection to my Paces in Fluvanna Va Is there any additional information available? My grgrandfather, John R.Pace named one of his sons-Richard Alphonso? Pace. The mother of this son has only been identified as Elizabeth b. 1815, However, there was a "Aunt Fanny Cosby" living with the family in 1900. I have also seen her first name as Louisa She was born in Alabama about 1825, returned to Virginia and married a Edwin N.Cosby who was a widower.They were neighbors of my family prior to her boarding with them in 1900. Edwin N. Cosby witnessed an application for a pension for my grgrandmother, Mary A. Herndon Robinson. Mary Herndon married David Robinson who may have a Cosby connection. He was born 1789 and died in 1861. He was the Father of Rebecca Ann Robinson (Roberson,Robertson) who married my grandfather, JohnWalker Pace b. 1843 in VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <pjohndeb@verizon.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [PACE] Group 3 DNA Charts > Since I am the one responsible for the creation of the Group 3 DNA > charts, > I feel I should explain them a little better. The first chart, created in > 2004 I believe, was created to show the fallacies in the lineages > submitted > by DNA donors. Most of the donors obtained their listed lineages from the > book by Bruce Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors. Even though DNA has proven > that Mr. Howard was wrong on some of the lineages he posted in his book, > he > was correct on many more. Also to note is that he had a wealth of > information in his book and he firmly stated that further research needed > to > be done on many lines. The naming patterns shown in the first chart were > just another tool to illustrate the fallacies of the lineages. To sum up, > this chart actually illustrated mistakes in the lineages and was not meant > for anyone to use to see their own lineage. This chart has served it's > purpose and is no longer useful. > > The second chart was created in 2005 and was only available on the private > side of the Pace Society Website. The reason it was only on the private > side > is because it was based on lineages provided by the Pace Society > Bulletins. > And since the Society sells copies of the Bulletins to create funds, I > felt > a chart compiling the information contained in them should only be > available > to members. This chart showed that much of the earlier research and > conclusions reached by others was more accurate, [or I should say agreed > with the DNA results], than some of the conclusions of Mr. Howard. Since > new > information has been obtained and a new chart created, this chart is also, > no longer useful. > > The third chart which was just posted recently[ > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names.htm ]is a compilation of Pace Society > Bulletins, genealogy books, and most importantly, the recent research of > original documents done by many members of the Society. This chart is the > most accurate one which I have made and is as accurate as it can be using > the information presently available; however, it should be used with > skepticism, as should anyone's opinion on your lineage. Our historian, > Valerie Tice is tirelessly researching everyday and turning up new > information, so some of the conclusions shown in the present chart could > be > shown incorrect in the future. I do plan for this chart to be updated as > new > information is obtained and would like to ask for help in that matter. If > you find information that disproves the conclusions depicted in the chart, > please send me an email [pjohndeb@hotmail.com] explaining your arguments > and > let's keep this chart as accurate as we can. The reason the chart is on > the > public side of the website is so anyone can add their two cents worth and > do > not have to be a member of PSA to do so. However, we welcome new members > and > there are many original documents in the PSA database available to members > which are invaluable to serious researchers. I would like to add that the > lineage conclusions depicted in the chart are not just my opinion; they > are > the opinions and conclusions of several top researchers in the PSA. > > John Pace > Trustee, PSA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message