Yes. William Pace was born ca 1745 in Goochland Co., VA; died ca 1815, Scott Co., VA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Glass" <bdglass@charter.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > Thanks. And am I to understand that one William Pace was in Washington's > Guard? If so, which one? > > Thanks. > > Beth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Raymond Ruch > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > It was George Washington's, Commander-in-Chief's, Guard during the > Revolutionary War. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth Glass" <bdglass@charter.net> > To: <pace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > >I have just joined this list. Can someone tell me what Washington's > Guard > >is? I do have a couple of William Paces in my ancestry. > > > > Beth Glass > > Mars Hill, NC > > (my paternal grandmother was a Pace) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Raymond Ruch > > To: pace@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > > > > There is a 1797 marriage in Fluvanna Co., VA, for William Pace and > Mary > > Thomas. I have a note that Rev William Baskett performed the > marriage. > > William Baskett was the husband of Mary Pace, sister of William Pace > of > > Washington's Guard. I don't know who the William Pace that married > Mary > > Thomas is, but the 1797 marriage date is after the birth of all our > > William > > Pace's (Washington's Guard) children. > > > > Does anyone know the ancestry of William Pace who married Mary Thomas? > > > > Raymond Ruch > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <TENNEVA@aol.com> > > To: <pace@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > > > > >I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace > of > > > Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade > guess > > to > > > rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put > this > > > guess > > > to rest? > > > > > > Jim Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: > > 11/01/09 > > 07:38:00 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: > 11/02/09 > 07:51:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00

Thanks. And am I to understand that one William Pace was in Washington's Guard? If so, which one? Thanks. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: Raymond Ruch To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 It was George Washington's, Commander-in-Chief's, Guard during the Revolutionary War. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Glass" <bdglass@charter.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 >I have just joined this list. Can someone tell me what Washington's Guard >is? I do have a couple of William Paces in my ancestry. > > Beth Glass > Mars Hill, NC > (my paternal grandmother was a Pace) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Raymond Ruch > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > There is a 1797 marriage in Fluvanna Co., VA, for William Pace and Mary > Thomas. I have a note that Rev William Baskett performed the marriage. > William Baskett was the husband of Mary Pace, sister of William Pace of > Washington's Guard. I don't know who the William Pace that married Mary > Thomas is, but the 1797 marriage date is after the birth of all our > William > Pace's (Washington's Guard) children. > > Does anyone know the ancestry of William Pace who married Mary Thomas? > > Raymond Ruch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TENNEVA@aol.com> > To: <pace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:49 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > >I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace of > > Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade guess > to > > rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put this > > guess > > to rest? > > > > Jim Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: > 11/01/09 > 07:38:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just joined this list. Can someone tell me what Washington's Guard is? I do have a couple of William Paces in my ancestry. Beth Glass Mars Hill, NC (my paternal grandmother was a Pace) ----- Original Message ----- From: Raymond Ruch To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 There is a 1797 marriage in Fluvanna Co., VA, for William Pace and Mary Thomas. I have a note that Rev William Baskett performed the marriage. William Baskett was the husband of Mary Pace, sister of William Pace of Washington's Guard. I don't know who the William Pace that married Mary Thomas is, but the 1797 marriage date is after the birth of all our William Pace's (Washington's Guard) children. Does anyone know the ancestry of William Pace who married Mary Thomas? Raymond Ruch ----- Original Message ----- From: <TENNEVA@aol.com> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 >I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace of > Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade guess to > rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put this > guess > to rest? > > Jim Brown > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was George Washington's, Commander-in-Chief's, Guard during the Revolutionary War. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Glass" <bdglass@charter.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 >I have just joined this list. Can someone tell me what Washington's Guard >is? I do have a couple of William Paces in my ancestry. > > Beth Glass > Mars Hill, NC > (my paternal grandmother was a Pace) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Raymond Ruch > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > There is a 1797 marriage in Fluvanna Co., VA, for William Pace and Mary > Thomas. I have a note that Rev William Baskett performed the marriage. > William Baskett was the husband of Mary Pace, sister of William Pace of > Washington's Guard. I don't know who the William Pace that married Mary > Thomas is, but the 1797 marriage date is after the birth of all our > William > Pace's (Washington's Guard) children. > > Does anyone know the ancestry of William Pace who married Mary Thomas? > > Raymond Ruch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TENNEVA@aol.com> > To: <pace@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:49 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 > > > >I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace of > > Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade guess > to > > rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put this > > guess > > to rest? > > > > Jim Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: > 11/01/09 > 07:38:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.45/2476 - Release Date: 11/02/09 07:51:00

There is a 1797 marriage in Fluvanna Co., VA, for William Pace and Mary Thomas. I have a note that Rev William Baskett performed the marriage. William Baskett was the husband of Mary Pace, sister of William Pace of Washington's Guard. I don't know who the William Pace that married Mary Thomas is, but the 1797 marriage date is after the birth of all our William Pace's (Washington's Guard) children. Does anyone know the ancestry of William Pace who married Mary Thomas? Raymond Ruch ----- Original Message ----- From: <TENNEVA@aol.com> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 366 >I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace of > Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade guess to > rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put this > guess > to rest? > > Jim Brown > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00

I don't think anyone has a maiden name for Mary, wife of William Pace of Washington's Guard. We know Raymond Ruch put the Elizabeth Wade guess to rest. I don't believe she was a Thomas. Maybe someone can put this guess to rest? Jim Brown

According to Harold and Robert Casey writing on page 557 in their book Shelton, Wininger and Pace Families and citing Annie Hartline, Solomon W. Wininger married Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Susannah Pace Bellomy and Tarlton Evans. They are buried in the Wininger/Gentile Cemetery in Jackson County, Alabama. Tarlton was a son of Emanual Evans. Robert Casey has this information posted on line at _http://www.rcasey.net/pace/pacstart.htm_ (http://www.rcasey.net/pace/pacstart.htm) Jim Brown In a message dated 11/2/2009 3:11:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pace-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. Elizabeth Pace m.William Wilkerson-Fluvanna co Va-12/1790 (Lois L. Carey) 2. Pace-Wininger-Evans-Thacker connection?-Fluvanna Co .co (Lois L. Carey) 3. Re: PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 (James Pace) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:02:08 -0500 From: "Lois L. Carey" <lcarey34@verizon.net> Subject: [PACE] Elizabeth Pace m.William Wilkerson-Fluvanna co Va-12/1790 To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B4C5E327DC5A4B5FBE6DA11BDF68B29C@yourw04gtxld67> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My grgrandfather was born 1809 in Va. He seems to be related to the Wilkerson family. His wife was Elizabeth P.? b. 1815 Where does the middle name of William Wilkerson Evans come from.? In my files I have a Wiliam P. Wilkerson b. 8/15/1781 in Goochland Co.Va who married Susan Margaret Pace b. 1/131/1789 in Va d. Elkhart Co, Ind. William was the son of Jarrett Wilkerson and Nancy Ann Perkins corrections and additions welcome. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:12:21 -0500 From: "Lois L. Carey" <lcarey34@verizon.net> Subject: [PACE] Pace-Wininger-Evans-Thacker connection?-Fluvanna Co .co To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E65F5411502C452B97F3542C52AB3D42@yourw04gtxld67> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have Emanueal Evans and Elizabeth Thacker as the parents of Elizabeth" Betsy" Evans b. May 18143 Va d. march 19, 1901 m. Solomon W. Wininger Oct. 10, 1901 buried in Wininger/Gentile Cemetery(where is thata?) Was Mary, the mother of Elizabeth Pace who married William Wilkerson,the Mary Thomas, who was married to a William Pace? There are other Pace-Thacker connections also ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: James Pace <jrpace62@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 To: pace@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <460538.94066.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I recently posted a note on two GenForum sites at www.genealogy.com. They concerned a Richard Wade and his wife of Goochland Co., VA of the same time period as below. I thought it might be of interest. Thus: Was Richard Wade?s Wife a Dabney? ? ??????????? Richard Wade (abt. 1704 - Bef. 15 Mar 1768 ), of Goochland Co., VA,? was married to a Giselle (Griselle). There is evidence that she was a Dabney before her marriage. However, if one accepts the older theory of the origins of the Dabney family in Virginia, I find it difficult to place her in that family. This theory holds that the original Dabney immigrants to Virginia were brothers who were Huguenots. ??????????? Aubrey H Starke published an article entitled ?Some Problems in the Morriss-Wade Genealogy,?in? Genealogies of Virginia Families from the William & Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 4., in 1981.? She notes that William Wade, Richard?s son, and wife Ann (Cauthorn) Cawthorne, begot several children. There were three sons, Dabney, William Abinadab and Jonadab Wade. A contributor to her article suggested that ?Abinadab and Jonadab are ?Portmanteau? names, achieved by combining the Biblical names Abner and Jonah with the first syllable of Dabney.? The parents played a similar game with the names of the five daughters, Rosannah, Joanna, Hannah, Anna, and Susannah. Conversations at the family dinner table must have sounded rather melodic. I descend from Susannah Wade and her husband, Samuel Coleman Morris. ??????????? It seems obvious that William Wade and his wife Ann had a definite preoccupation with the surname Dabney. As author Starke noted, it seems reasonable to conclude that William?s mother was surnamed Dabney. A grandparent by that name would be outside the probable time period for the arrival of Dabneys in Virginia. ??????????? Griselle Wade did have a family. In March 1746, she ?relinquished her dower right in court.? So she came to the marriage with property. This property seems to have been in Goochland Co. ??????????? I am asking this. Does anyone have any concrete evidence that Griselle was a Dabney? James R. Pace ________________________________ From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 5:25:53 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 I made the necessary changes on the web page, taking out the disputed Wade connection. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TENNEVA@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:56 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 Roy;? Elizabeth Wade appears to be the daughter of Richard? Wade.? This Elizabeth Wade seems to? have married a John Pace.? I have no? idea who the parents of this John Pace may have been.? John Pace and Richard deeded land to, I? believe a Daniel Wade.? I believe? this Elizabeth Pace was mentioned in the will of Richard Wade!? I must also cite Raymond Ruch.? I? thought Raymond had put the Elizabeth Wade theory to rest.? For what it is worth, William Pace and Mary? gave their permission for their daughter Elizabeth to marry William Wilkerson? Evans in Fluvanna County,? Virginia.? That marriage took place 7 December? 1790.? Later on, they signed for? their daughter Susannah to marry Jackson Bellomy.? Tnis marriage took place on 24 December? 1800 in Fluvanna County,? Virginia.? It is my opinion this Mary was the? mother of all his children.? Edward Pace is cited by a descendant as? saying William Pace was married to a widow Winegar and their children? intermarried.? I doubt this is? correct.? William Pace, Jr. married? an Elizabeth Wininger but she was the daughter of David Wininger? (1768-1885).? Margery Pace married? George Wineinger. George?s father was John A. Wininger (1755-1835). William Pace? was long dead before either David or John might have left a? widow! Jim Brown? Message:? 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson"? <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA? results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:? <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain;? charset="us-ascii" (1)? I just posted pictures of the? tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's? guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go? to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and? scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures? to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done? so. (2)? New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace? descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67;? otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy? Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE? list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post? a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to? PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To? unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to? PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in? the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End? of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue? 364 ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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I recently posted a note on two GenForum sites at www.genealogy.com. They concerned a Richard Wade and his wife of Goochland Co., VA of the same time period as below. I thought it might be of interest. Thus: Was Richard Wade’s Wife a Dabney?               Richard Wade (abt. 1704 - Bef. 15 Mar 1768 ), of Goochland Co., VA,  was married to a Giselle (Griselle). There is evidence that she was a Dabney before her marriage. However, if one accepts the older theory of the origins of the Dabney family in Virginia, I find it difficult to place her in that family. This theory holds that the original Dabney immigrants to Virginia were brothers who were Huguenots.             Aubrey H Starke published an article entitled “Some Problems in the Morriss-Wade Genealogy,”in  Genealogies of Virginia Families from the William & Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 4., in 1981.  She notes that William Wade, Richard’s son, and wife Ann (Cauthorn) Cawthorne, begot several children. There were three sons, Dabney, William Abinadab and Jonadab Wade. A contributor to her article suggested that “Abinadab and Jonadab are “Portmanteau” names, achieved by combining the Biblical names Abner and Jonah with the first syllable of Dabney.” The parents played a similar game with the names of the five daughters, Rosannah, Joanna, Hannah, Anna, and Susannah. Conversations at the family dinner table must have sounded rather melodic. I descend from Susannah Wade and her husband, Samuel Coleman Morris.             It seems obvious that William Wade and his wife Ann had a definite preoccupation with the surname Dabney. As author Starke noted, it seems reasonable to conclude that William’s mother was surnamed Dabney. A grandparent by that name would be outside the probable time period for the arrival of Dabneys in Virginia.             Griselle Wade did have a family. In March 1746, she ‘relinquished her dower right in court.’ So she came to the marriage with property. This property seems to have been in Goochland Co.             I am asking this. Does anyone have any concrete evidence that Griselle was a Dabney? James R. Pace ________________________________ From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 5:25:53 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 I made the necessary changes on the web page, taking out the disputed Wade connection. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TENNEVA@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:56 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 Roy;  Elizabeth Wade appears to be the daughter of Richard  Wade.  This Elizabeth Wade seems to  have married a John Pace.  I have no  idea who the parents of this John Pace may have been.  John Pace and Richard deeded land to, I  believe a Daniel Wade.  I believe  this Elizabeth Pace was mentioned in the will of Richard Wade!  I must also cite Raymond Ruch.  I  thought Raymond had put the Elizabeth Wade theory to rest.  For what it is worth, William Pace and Mary  gave their permission for their daughter Elizabeth to marry William Wilkerson  Evans in Fluvanna County,  Virginia.  That marriage took place 7 December  1790.  Later on, they signed for  their daughter Susannah to marry Jackson Bellomy.  Tnis marriage took place on 24 December  1800 in Fluvanna County,  Virginia.  It is my opinion this Mary was the  mother of all his children.  Edward Pace is cited by a descendant as  saying William Pace was married to a widow Winegar and their children  intermarried.  I doubt this is  correct.  William Pace, Jr. married  an Elizabeth Wininger but she was the daughter of David Wininger  (1768-1885).  Margery Pace married  George Wineinger. George’s father was John A. Wininger (1755-1835). William Pace  was long dead before either David or John might have left a  widow! Jim Brown  Message:  1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson"  <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA  results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:  <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii" (1)  I just posted pictures of the  tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's  guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go  to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and  scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures  to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done  so. (2)  New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace  descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67;  otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy  Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE  list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post  a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to  PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in  the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End  of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue  364 ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Emanueal Evans and Elizabeth Thacker as the parents of Elizabeth" Betsy" Evans b. May 18143 Va d. march 19, 1901 m. Solomon W. Wininger Oct. 10, 1901 buried in Wininger/Gentile Cemetery(where is thata?) Was Mary, the mother of Elizabeth Pace who married William Wilkerson,the Mary Thomas, who was married to a William Pace? There are other Pace-Thacker connections also

My grgrandfather was born 1809 in Va. He seems to be related to the Wilkerson family. His wife was Elizabeth P.? b. 1815 Where does the middle name of William Wilkerson Evans come from.? In my files I have a Wiliam P. Wilkerson b. 8/15/1781 in Goochland Co.Va who married Susan Margaret Pace b. 1/131/1789 in Va d. Elkhart Co, Ind. William was the son of Jarrett Wilkerson and Nancy Ann Perkins corrections and additions welcome.

Roy; Elizabeth Wade appears to be the daughter of Richard Wade. This Elizabeth Wade seems to have married a John Pace. I have no idea who the parents of this John Pace may have been. John Pace and Richard deeded land to, I believe a Daniel Wade. I believe this Elizabeth Pace was mentioned in the will of Richard Wade! I must also cite Raymond Ruch. I thought Raymond had put the Elizabeth Wade theory to rest. For what it is worth, William Pace and Mary gave their permission for their daughter Elizabeth to marry William Wilkerson Evans in Fluvanna County, Virginia. That marriage took place 7 December 1790. Later on, they signed for their daughter Susannah to marry Jackson Bellomy. Tnis marriage took place on 24 December 1800 in Fluvanna County, Virginia. It is my opinion this Mary was the mother of all his children. Edward Pace is cited by a descendant as saying William Pace was married to a widow Winegar and their children intermarried. I doubt this is correct. William Pace, Jr. married an Elizabeth Wininger but she was the daughter of David Wininger (1768-1885). Margery Pace married George Wineinger. George’s father was John A. Wininger (1755-1835). William Pace was long dead before either David or John might have left a widow! Jim Brown Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 ************************************

I made the necessary changes on the web page, taking out the disputed Wade connection. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TENNEVA@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:56 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 Roy; Elizabeth Wade appears to be the daughter of Richard Wade. This Elizabeth Wade seems to have married a John Pace. I have no idea who the parents of this John Pace may have been. John Pace and Richard deeded land to, I believe a Daniel Wade. I believe this Elizabeth Pace was mentioned in the will of Richard Wade! I must also cite Raymond Ruch. I thought Raymond had put the Elizabeth Wade theory to rest. For what it is worth, William Pace and Mary gave their permission for their daughter Elizabeth to marry William Wilkerson Evans in Fluvanna County, Virginia. That marriage took place 7 December 1790. Later on, they signed for their daughter Susannah to marry Jackson Bellomy. Tnis marriage took place on 24 December 1800 in Fluvanna County, Virginia. It is my opinion this Mary was the mother of all his children. Edward Pace is cited by a descendant as saying William Pace was married to a widow Winegar and their children intermarried. I doubt this is correct. William Pace, Jr. married an Elizabeth Wininger but she was the daughter of David Wininger (1768-1885). Margery Pace married George Wineinger. George’s father was John A. Wininger (1755-1835). William Pace was long dead before either David or John might have left a widow! Jim Brown Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. I will need to make some changes. Although I do not have time to check all submissions, when there is controversy or something is unclear, it should be so noted. I will suggest to the submitter that we take that part out of the submission.l Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TENNEVA@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 6:56 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 Roy; Elizabeth Wade appears to be the daughter of Richard Wade. This Elizabeth Wade seems to have married a John Pace. I have no idea who the parents of this John Pace may have been. John Pace and Richard deeded land to, I believe a Daniel Wade. I believe this Elizabeth Pace was mentioned in the will of Richard Wade! I must also cite Raymond Ruch. I thought Raymond had put the Elizabeth Wade theory to rest. For what it is worth, William Pace and Mary gave their permission for their daughter Elizabeth to marry William Wilkerson Evans in Fluvanna County, Virginia. That marriage took place 7 December 1790. Later on, they signed for their daughter Susannah to marry Jackson Bellomy. Tnis marriage took place on 24 December 1800 in Fluvanna County, Virginia. It is my opinion this Mary was the mother of all his children. Edward Pace is cited by a descendant as saying William Pace was married to a widow Winegar and their children intermarried. I doubt this is correct. William Pace, Jr. married an Elizabeth Wininger but she was the daughter of David Wininger (1768-1885). Margery Pace married George Wineinger. George’s father was John A. Wininger (1755-1835). William Pace was long dead before either David or John might have left a widow! Jim Brown Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It has been called to my attention that Elizabeth Wade may not be documented. I do not have time to check all documentation of submissions; since it is that person's submission I usually post it as it is. If anyone has information on this, please let me know. Meantime I will probably add that it may not be documented. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Johnson Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:47 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, I can't. That was her submission and she said she was not 100% certain about it. I suppose I should add a caveat to the page that it is not documented. I don't have time to check all documentation of submissions; I think probably it is best just to add a statement that it is not documented. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TENNEVA@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:25 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 Roy, Can you document Elizabeth Wade as the wife of William Pace? Jim Brown In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:14:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pace-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results (Roy Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy, Can you document Elizabeth Wade as the wife of William Pace? Jim Brown In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:14:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pace-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results (Roy Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] 1) New on PacePix 2) New DNA results To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01ca59dc$cdaaf210$6900d630$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" (1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 364 ************************************

I am trying to help someone whose father was a Robert Pace. His parents were Harry Pace and Mildred Hinkle. Harry Pace died of T.B when her father was about 2 years old. Then Mildred met and married her step-grandfather,E.R.Johnson, and although he never adopted Robert Pace, her father took the last name of Johnson and used the name Pace as his middle name all his life. Later her parents used the name Pace as her middle name. She is not not well and unable to do much searching, so I have been trying to help her. She says Harry was the son of a Samuel Pace and Laura Jane .That he had a sister, Ethel Pace, who married a Lewis N. Leaton. She believes her Harry has a connection to Henrietta Ann McQuary born in Va and married to John Wilson Pace. Their son, Martin Wilson Pace b. abt. 1853 in Va Died in Mo. married a Rose Ann Leaton Is there any connection between Rose Ann Leaton and Lewis N. Leaton 1881-1978, married Ethel Pace 1887-1978? They both died in Otterville, Cooper, Mo according to SSDI records. Missouri marriage records show that Lewis Leaton m. Ethel Pace in Pettis, Mo on October 4, 1903 I Hope there are some Pace-Leaton descendents in Missouri who can help this lady.

(1) I just posted pictures of the tombstone of Margery Pace Wineinger, daughter of William Pace of Washington's guard and Elizabeth Wade. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/pacepix/ and scroll down to her name. You might also want to check out the other pictures to see if any are in your line if you haven't previously done so. (2) New 38-67 results for kit 9852, a Burwell Pace descendent. No surprises. One mutation in the entire string of 38-67; otherwise tallies with the modal. Roy Johnson

Just saw this obit: Hays Free Press (Texas) - October 28, 2009 "Melva A. Pace of Buda, born October 15, 1922, departed this earth for her heavenly home on October 21, 2009, at the age of 87." More information about her religious life. "She was preceded in death by her husband, Charles H. Pace, her parents, a brother and sister. Surviving her are her twins, Charles (Chuck) Chesley Pace and his wife Lois of Mountain City and Richard Wesley Pace and his wife Patricia of Shelbyville, KY, a sister, Opal Goben; a brother Wendel Hendrickson; three grandchildren; eight great grandchildren; one great, great grandchild and many nieces and nephews. The funeral was Friday, October 23 at the First Baptist Church in Buda with Pastor J. Stephen Warren officiating. Burial followed at Sunset Memorial Park in San Antonio. Kim Stracener Zapalac

Scott: Thanks for the correction re Darwin Kipp. So Darwin was a son of Jesse Kipp. But do you know if Jesse was a brother of Joseph Kipp? Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Scott Aaron <rtanyon@yahoo.com> >Sent: Oct 28, 2009 7:58 PM >To: "pace@rootsweb.com" <pace@rootsweb.com>, "Gordon W. Pace" <gordonwpace@peoplepc.com> >Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace, Kipp and the Marias River Massacre > >Interesting stuff Gordon. Thanks! > >One minor correction...in my trying to explain which KIPP was which, I think I created more confusion than clarification... > >"[In other words Darwin Kipp was a son of Joseph Kipp, who was associated with the Marias River Massacre.]" > >Actually, Darwin KIPP was the son of a Jesse KIPP. So Darwin wasn't a direct descendant of that Joseph Kipp, but they were cousins. Joseph's father James (the fur trader), was named after Darwin's great-grandfather James (1751-1785). Probably not of great interest to the PACE list, but figured I'd straighten that out in case any KIPP researcher stumbles across this thread in the future. > >Scott > >--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Gordon W. Pace <gordonwpace@peoplepc.com> wrote: > >> From: Gordon W. Pace <gordonwpace@peoplepc.com> >> Subject: [PACE] Pace, Kipp and the Marias River Massacre >> To: "pace@rootsweb.com" <pace@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:10 PM >> This is Gordon W. Pace.  My >> additions to the following are included in brackets. >> The following has been slightly reworded for clarity. >> On July 14 Gordon Thomas Pace of Ontario, Canada sent me an >> interesting email.  Here are most of the >> contents:  “You might want to … give consideration >> to this rather sensitive part of Pace family history that I >> uncovered this past week. >> It appears that my Pace family [which goes back to John of >> Middlesex and the Shropshire Paces] and Scott Aaron’s Pace >> family [which goes back to the Pees/Paces of Prussia] come >> together somewhat remotely in associated historical events, >> namely the Marias River Massacre of 1870 in Montana which >> most likely led up to the great massacre six years later, >> the Battle at Little Big Horn, where Custer and Sitting Bull >> came together, also in Montana. >> This week I discovered the following words in reference to >> the Marias River Massacre of 1870 [from] http://www.dickshovel.com/parts2.html >> “Joseph Kipp, half-Mandan Indian of North Dakota [was a] >> son of white trader James Kipp.  Joseph Kipp married >> one of Heavy Runner’s daughters, Martha, [after the Marias >> River Massacre] and adopted her children, who had been left >> fatherless by the soldiers.” >> Gordon T. said, I recognized the surname Kipp from some of >> Scott Aaron’s background, quoted as follows: >> “David Pace was brother to William Pace who m. Paulina >> Chapel – from early registers of the Old Anglican Church, >> St. Thomas, Ontario.  Marriage:  26th Dec 1827. >> William and Paulina Pace were grandparents to William John >> Pace who I have been researching as was Brenda Howorko at >> the BC and Alberta Archives, as you probably know, for some >> time now.  It’s like so many building blocks of >> history coming together.” >> [GordonT. notes that the following info comes from:  >> www.pacefamilyhistory.info/lines/yarmouth.htm#david >> [The above] David Pace b. abt 1817 and m. Catherine >> Everitt.  One of their daughters, Hannah Pace, m. >> Darwin Kipp in Yarmouth Twp, Elgin Co, Ontario. >> Gordon T. says: so I wrote Scott and asked if he had >> further Kipp info or anything that might be related which he >> replied: >> “The Darwin Kipp you listed was the great-grandson of >> James Kipp (1751-1785).  James Kipp (the famous >> fur-trader, who was close with many Indian tribes in >> Montana) was named after James (1751-1785) … his >> uncle.  The Joseph Kipp that you mention was James’ >> (the fur trader) son.  [In other words Darwin Kipp was >> a son of Joseph Kipp, who was associated with the Marias >> River Massacre.]  [Joseph] had a colorful career in >> Canada and Montana, being known as “The Merchant Prince of >> the High Missouri.”  He testified under oath to the >> Indian Claims Commission in February, 1913, forth-three >> years after the massacre.” >> [Gordon T. sent me a brief description of the Marias River >> Massacre but I found a more detailed description online, >> which includes an important revelation about Joseph Kipp. >> The source is:  >> www.montanaheritageproject.org/edheritage/articles/studentessay/marias.htm >> It was written by Scott Warnick and following are the >> relevant excerpts: >> “On January 15, 1870, a detachment of the U. S., Calvary >> from Fort Shaw under the command of Major Eugene Baker >> marched north towards the Marias River.  They suffered >> heavily from the bitter cold, as they could not start fires >> out of fear that the Indians would detect their >> column.  The temperature hovered around thirty degrees >> below zero.  But the cold didn’t matter, because they >> were going to kill Indians…. >> Malcolm Clarke’s death at the hands of Owl Child had >> inflamed the public and the cavalry into a state of >> fury.  There had to be repercussions.  Owl Child >> was an ambitious young Indian warrior who thought to gain >> notice by stealing several of Clarke’s horses.  He >> succeeded at this, but was eventually captured by Clarke and >> beaten.  Now, to beat an Indian warrior in front of his >> entire camp was unforgivable.  Therefore, Owl Child >> took a band of warriors to Clarke and killed him and several >> others. >> And so, on January 23, two hundred soldiers lined along >> snowy bluffs at the bend of the Marias River.  The camp >> was surrounded, its warriors were away, and most of the >> remaining Indians were women and small children. >> Chief Heavy Runner [per Gordon T. he was Chief of the >> Piegan Tribe whose people are closely related to the Blood >> Reserve folks of the Blackfoot Nation and were considered >> peaceful Indians, see below] came out of his lodge waving a >> safe-conduct paper [issued by the Government].  An army >> scout, Joe Kipp [the above Joseph Kipp] shouted that it was >> the wrong camp but was threatened to silence.  The >> soldiers were supposed to be attacking Mountain Chief’s >> village.  Another scout, Joe Cobell, fired a single >> shot that dropped Heavy Runner in his tracks.  >> The relentless spray of army bullets that was followed was >> dubbed as the greatest slaughter of Indians ever made by U. >> S. troops.  The hasty count performed by the soldiers >> revealed 173 dead Indians, as well as the 140 women and >> children that were captured. The soldiers lost only one man >> …”  [It seems likely to me that Joseph Kipp did not >> fire a shot as he knew that this was the wrong tribe. gwp] >> [Gordon Thomas Pace added these additional excerpted >> comments:] >> “Sitting Bull has been mentioned in my personal Pace >> family history throughout my life.  My grandfather and >> his aunt and uncle at Lethbridge, Alberta (1880’s, >> 1890’s) … had been rather closely associated with >> Sitting Bull when he spent time near Lethbridge at the Blood >> Reserve …, according to a DVD on Sitting Bull I bought at >> the Oklahoma History Centre last summer.  I had thought >> my elder’s comments rather fictitious but now, maybe >> not… >> Many people were at my grandfather’s funeral in 1926 at >> Lethbridge.  Over the years, my people didn’t know >> any of the many people at the funeral; they had just arrived >> from England but they went to the funeral at >> Lethbridge.  Now we (Fred Pace descendants) figure they >> were people of the Blood Reserve.  And I have this >> month been approached again by another member of the Pace >> family, a descendant of Fred Pace, who is a school teacher >> there and saying her children are taking quite an interest >> in their family history. >> Since next year’s Pace Reunion will be held at Bozeman, >> Montana, I wonder about these facts of history and the >> sensitivity of such.  Could it be that other Pace >> ancestors were killed in these events?  Some >> interesting findings occur as we pry into history and >> uncover events of the past.” >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> PeoplePC Online >> A better way to Internet >> http://www.peoplepc.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com