Great idea Roy. Thanks. Bob Pace Luzerne County, PA -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Johnson Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:07 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Haiti This is not relevant to Pace genealogy but I hope this one time it will be excused. Subject: Another thing you can do to help in Haiti Hi, Haiti has been devastated by a massive earthquake. Americans are opening their hearts and their wallets to help. But credit card companies see this as an opportunity to turn a profit. They take a cut every time Americans use their credit card to make a charitable contribution. Isn't that outrageous? I just signed a petition to the CEOs of all the big credit card companies telling them they need to refund this fee for all the donations to aid organizations working in Haiti and get rid of the fee for all charitable contributions going forward. Will you join me? http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/?r_by=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx <http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/?r_by=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx&rc=paste> &rc=paste Thanks! Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, me again. I see what's happening. It's not a long URL, it is just repeated and appears twice. I jumped to conclusions too quickly. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Johnson Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:27 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Haiti again I don't know why that long URL came up; you would have to cut and paste it into your browser. This shorter one is the one I used: http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/o.pl?id=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx <http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/o.pl?id=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx&t=5> &t=5 Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know why that long URL came up; you would have to cut and paste it into your browser. This shorter one is the one I used: http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/o.pl?id=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx <http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/o.pl?id=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx&t=5> &t=5 Roy Johnson

This is not relevant to Pace genealogy but I hope this one time it will be excused. Subject: Another thing you can do to help in Haiti Hi, Haiti has been devastated by a massive earthquake. Americans are opening their hearts and their wallets to help. But credit card companies see this as an opportunity to turn a profit. They take a cut every time Americans use their credit card to make a charitable contribution. Isn't that outrageous? I just signed a petition to the CEOs of all the big credit card companies telling them they need to refund this fee for all the donations to aid organizations working in Haiti and get rid of the fee for all charitable contributions going forward. Will you join me? http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/?r_by=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx <http://pol.moveon.org/nofees/?r_by=18607-8715682-0xK9nKx&rc=paste> &rc=paste Thanks! Roy Johnson

These Pace DNA result charts are the charts that are prepared once a year in time for the Pace Society reunion each June, providing a yearly snapshot of the Pace DNA project results.  The charts are therefore current as of last June (2009) and new results since that time have not yet been added to the charts.  For those who are members, these are the charts that appear in the Fall Bulletin each year, but are in color and can now be downloaded from the public side of the website (as well as the Members only side) for easier viewing and saving the results to your own computer. Rebecca Christensen --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] Charts by Rebecca Christensen To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:55 AM Rebecca Christensen has prepared two excellent charts in .pdf (Adobe Acrobat) format, a program that all computer of recent origin have. They can be zoomed to larger size for easy reading. Check them out! You will find them on the Results page, just go to http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/ and click on Results in the left pane. They are at the bottom of the menu. Double click on a file and it will open on your computer automatically and you can use the + to zoom in. Roy Johnson

Gordon, et al, has it been determined [or documented] who the parents of Richard Pace [b: abt 1690 - m: Sarah Woodlief] are? ~Kathlynn~ In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:53:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, gordonwpace@peoplepc.com writes: Roy: I have the detailed lineage for this Isaac Pace. He is Isaac Stephen Pace b. 8/13/1835 in Cobb Co, GA, m. Sarah Frances Coggins in 3/1865 Paulding Co, GA. He was a son of John B. Pace b. 1797 in Spartanburg District, SC, m. Nancy Camp in 1816. H was a son of Isaac Pace b. 1771 in Prince George Co, VA, m. Mary Russell. He was a son of John Pace, Sr. b. 1748 in Prince George Co, m. Ann Russell. He was a son of Francis Pace b. 1718 Prince George Co, m. Ann Biggins abt 1740. He was a son of Richard Pace b. abt 1690, m. Sarah Woodliefe. The further ancestry back to Richard Pace of Jamestown is well known. Please send me the email address of the DNA donor so I can send him my detailed record of this ancestry. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 5:40 PM >To: pace@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE] New results kit 163681 > >25 marker results for this kit match group 3a but the lineage does not let >us identify any specific sub group. If anyone on the list has more >information about this lineage, it would be appreciated. I will email the >donor to see if he can be more specific about dates. > > > >0. Donor > 1. James Crockett Pace b. 1900 Paulding Co. GA m. Effie Driskell > 2. Robert Franklin Pace b. 1868 Paulding Co. GA m. Elizabeth Shelnot (Sp?) > 3. Isacc (Sp?) Pace b. Paulding Co. Ga married Coggins (?) > 4. John Pace > >Roy Johnson >

Roy: I don't know who the Charles Pace was who m. Ida Ackerley in 1928. Apparently they were of the Malta Paces, which I have heard of but do not know anything about their ancestry. Where is Malta and how did Paces get there? Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: gtp3066@nexicom.net >Sent: Nov 24, 2009 9:10 AM >To: pace@rootsweb.com, rgcotton@skylinc.net, Jocelyn Bates <jbates@waldonet.net.mt> >Subject: Re: [PACE] Pacefamily tree > >Roy Johnson wrote: >> Locations help. Where were your parents married? Where were you born? A >> search of the records is probably a better choice than trying to find Pam >> Cotton. >> >> Roy Johnson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Jocelyn Bates >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:11 PM >> To: pace@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PACE] Pacefamily tree >> >> Hello , >> I`m trying to locate anyone who can help me fill in the gaps in my family >> tree. >> I am Jocelyn Bates nee Pace daughter of Charles Pace and Ida Ackerley who >> were married 05/12/1928. I was born 20/05 /1932. I stumbled across a >> reference to my parents marriage by a Pam Cotton ,but so far have not been >> able to locate her she also mentioned that my father had been brought up by >> the Grocott family whilst his parents went to Canada >> I do hope you can help me >> Jocelyn Bates >> >> jbates@waldonet.net.mt > >Yes, Location a clue. >Jocelyn is writing from Malta >although her names seem Anglesized, says her parents were married in >Stoke. If that's England, Stoke is the start of about 3 dozen place >names in my AA Road Atlas. I have written to the Cotton One Name Study >Guild chap in Burlington, Ontario. His ancestry goes back to Kenilworth, >Warwickshire. Maybe another clue. I have PACE-ARCH connections there >also and a Kenilworth web page. Obscurity yes, isn't it fun? >It connects with my PACE-ARCH people and the JOSEPH ARCH whose mother >was a PACE. HOSEPH was a farm boy, Methodist preacher, Union man, MP. > http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/uk/barford.htm >He founded the National Agricultural Workers' Union 1873. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Arch >One PACE descendent has PACE relatives both in Kenilworth England and >PACE in Malta. Sound like a merry-go-round. Since she said the Pam >Cotton knew about her parents, maybe the Cotton ONS Guild chap can help. >I'll phone him and talk as I'm also from Burlington/Hamilton where he >teaches the Mormon Genealogy programme PF5. His web site is interesting >and reveals a good atmosphere. Quite a revolving puzzle, for sure, but >isn't that why we are fascinated with this? >Gord Pace > >Maybe the PACE-ARCH puzzle of JOSEPH ARCH, Member of Parliament and >founder of the largest trade union in England can come clearer. I see a >PACE from Exhall below. That's where my grandmother's ARCH family was >from. The TREPASS name has connections to PACE in Malta too. Confusing? > >Joseph PACE b 1802 Kenilworth - Comb manufacturer >+ Elizabeth - b 1805 Coventry > > * Hannah PACE - Chr 7 Jan 1827 Kenilworth > 1851-worked for solicitor Edward Draper, the Hermitage,Kenilworth > + William HINDE - m 15 Nov 1852 Kenilworth wid by 1881 > o Rose HINDE b 1862 Kenilworth > o Bell HINDE b 1870 Kenilworth > * Mary PACE - Chr 26 Dec 1827 Kenilworth > + James Clegg SMITH - m 20 May 1854 Kenilworth > * Henry Edward PACE - b 3 Oct 1830 Combmaker journeyman widower 1881 > + Mary SELMAN - b 1830 Cricklade Wiltshire worked at Globe Inn >Castle End m 17 Aug 1851 Kenilworth > o Henry Edward PACE - b 16 Nov 1852 Kenilworth > + Eliza HARRIS - m 7 Jul 1870 Kenilworth > o Ellen PACE - b 09 Apr 1854 Kenilworth > o Lizzie PACE - b 11 May 1856 Kenilworth > o Mary PACE - b 08 Aug 1858 Kenilworth > o Sarah Ann PACE - b 1860 Exhall WAR > o Florence PACE - b 1867 Birmingham > * Eliza PACE - 3 Mar 1833 was Milliner & Dress Maker Kenilworth > * William PACE - 3 Jul 1836 > * Sarah Emma PACE - 28 Jun 1840 > + Walter TREPESS - m 26 Aug 1861 Kenilworth > READ LETTER - descendent - return with BACK button > o William Walter TREPESS - 4 May 1864 Birm. St Stephens > o Edith Ann TREPESS - 19 Mar 1865 Birm. St Stephens > * Ann PACE - Chr 23 Mar 1845 Kenilworth > + Frederick BAKER - b 1845 Coventry m 26 Dec 1868 Kenilworth > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Roy: I have the detailed lineage for this Isaac Pace. He is Isaac Stephen Pace b. 8/13/1835 in Cobb Co, GA, m. Sarah Frances Coggins in 3/1865 Paulding Co, GA. He was a son of John B. Pace b. 1797 in Spartanburg District, SC, m. Nancy Camp in 1816. H was a son of Isaac Pace b. 1771 in Prince George Co, VA, m. Mary Russell. He was a son of John Pace, Sr. b. 1748 in Prince George Co, m. Ann Russell. He was a son of Francis Pace b. 1718 Prince George Co, m. Ann Biggins abt 1740. He was a son of Richard Pace b. abt 1690, m. Sarah Woodliefe. The further ancestry back to Richard Pace of Jamestown is well known. Please send me the email address of the DNA donor so I can send him my detailed record of this ancestry. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 5:40 PM >To: pace@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE] New results kit 163681 > >25 marker results for this kit match group 3a but the lineage does not let >us identify any specific sub group. If anyone on the list has more >information about this lineage, it would be appreciated. I will email the >donor to see if he can be more specific about dates. > > > >0. Donor > 1. James Crockett Pace b. 1900 Paulding Co. GA m. Effie Driskell > 2. Robert Franklin Pace b. 1868 Paulding Co. GA m. Elizabeth Shelnot (Sp?) > 3. Isacc (Sp?) Pace b. Paulding Co. Ga married Coggins (?) > 4. John Pace > >Roy Johnson > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

The main page is http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/ >From there you can click "results" in the left pane and then click which group you want. If you want to go straight to the group 3 page you can use this URL: http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Frazier Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:47 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA Could you please post the site again?  I missed it somehow.  --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:20 PM If It was created with Microsoft FrontPage. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the link.  It looks great! --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:33 PM The main page is http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/ >From there you can click "results" in the left pane and then click which group you want. If you want to go straight to the group 3 page you can use this URL: http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Frazier Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:47 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA Could you please post the site again?  I missed it somehow.  --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:20 PM If It was created with Microsoft FrontPage. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could you please post the site again?  I missed it somehow.  --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:20 PM It was created with Microsoft FrontPage. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Technique for copying pretty DNA results in their pretty original color. Only works for a screen at a time.  1. Get the report, graph, document on your screen. 2 Hit Keys "Alt" and "Print Screen" simultaneously. You now have the screen you had up on a buffer which you can copy to "Wordpad" by the following. 3. Hit "Start", 4. Hit "All programs".  5. Hit "Accessories", 6. Hit "Wordpad".  A Blank "Wordpad" screen comes up.  7. On the "Wordpad" screen hit "Edit".  8. On the "Wordpad' dialog box hit "Paste".  Note at this point:  If "Paste" is not in bold letters the page you tried to copy in step 2 is not in the "Wordpad" buffer where you tried to put it.  Go back to 1. and start over. 9. You will see the page you copied in 2.  10. Hit the "Print" Icon of the "Wordpad" dialogue bar, and it will print the screen with all the colors-- if you have a color printer--if you don't have a color printer it will print in black and white. I have used this technique to get the "DNA results" chart in their color, but it is pretty lengthy timewise--you have to copy and cut and paste a lot.  Of course your computer/printer may copy the charts straight out from the routine under "File", "Print".  Mine will not. Maurice Pace at bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net i.   --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Jon Pace <jon_pace@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: Jon Pace <jon_pace@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 4:32 PM If you save the HTML page with the extension ".htm" MS Word will open the page.  In reverse, you can use Word to create a document and then convert that document to an HTML web page. Jonathan A Pace Marietta, GA -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:22 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA Betty,   The Pace DNA page is a html page, not a word document.  It would be viewed through your web browser.    You should be able to click on the file name/icon and if your computer is set up to do so, it will automatically open it in your default web browser. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> wrote: From: Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: Pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:04 PM What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can open it with any web browser; Mozilla or Explorer--I just tried it. Since it is in html language it needs a program that can read HTML. All browsers can do that. The file you are trying to open should have an extension of .htm or .html. It should download with one of those extensions. Using a browser you should get exactly what that browser shows on the internet. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I experimented and found that my Word 2007 will open it but some of the cells are elongated, and it takes quite awhile to open the group 3 file. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was created with Microsoft FrontPage. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty A. Pace Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:04 PM To: Pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiK dUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you save the HTML page with the extension ".htm" MS Word will open the page. In reverse, you can use Word to create a document and then convert that document to an HTML web page. Jonathan A Pace Marietta, GA -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:22 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA Betty,   The Pace DNA page is a html page, not a word document.  It would be viewed through your web browser.    You should be able to click on the file name/icon and if your computer is set up to do so, it will automatically open it in your default web browser. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> wrote: From: Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: Pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:04 PM What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty,   The Pace DNA page is a html page, not a word document.  It would be viewed through your web browser.    You should be able to click on the file name/icon and if your computer is set up to do so, it will automatically open it in your default web browser. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> wrote: From: Betty A. Pace <bettypace@juno.com> Subject: [PACE] Web page on Pace DNA To: Pace@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:04 PM What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace

Military Bounty Land Grants Bounty land grants issued by the government refer to tracts of land which were given outright by the states, and later by the federal government, as partial compensation for service in times of military conflict. Bounty land grants were also intended to attract men to serve in the military. Bounty land warrants were issued from the colonial period until 1858, when the program was discontinued, and five years later, in 1863, the rights to locate and take possession of bounty lands ceased. The colonies promised land for service in the colonial wars. This was especially true during the French and Indian War, 1754-1763. When the American Revolution began in 1775, some of the colonies promised land to men who would serve in state militia units and in the Continental Army. Land allotments varied by colony. The Continental Congress promised land to soldiers who served in the Continental Army. Soldiers who were privates or noncommissioned officers were allocated 100 acres, Lieutenant – 200 acres, Captain – 300 acres, Major, Colonel, General – 400+ acres, depending on various circumstances. In some cases, officers above the rank of captain received as much as 1,000 acres. Between 1788 and 1855, there were more bounty land applicants than pension applicants. The U.S. Military District in Ohio was the only federal land where warrants could be used from 1796, when it opened, until 1830. A second reserve that encompassed what is now the southern end of Illinois was proposed, but never created. The military district of Ohio was enlarged. The War of 1812 saw the bounty land process offered again as an inducement to bring men into the military. After the War of 1812, Congress created three new military districts to handle the future redemptions of new soldiers. One was in Illinois , one in Michigan , and one in present-day Arkansas (then Louisiana ). These were the last “federal reserves” created. The United States began granting land via a number of land acts issued between 1811 and 1818 in Missouri , Virginia , and Ohio . Warrants that could be used in the Virginia and United States Military Districts in Ohio were made redeemable by “scrip acts” in 1830 and 1832 at any general land office in Ohio , Illinois , and Indiana . By 1842, all federal bounty land warrants were honored at any land office. Other later acts of Congress, until 1855, continued to address the needs of soldiers wishing to redeem their bounty land warrants. The warrant market became a thriving business. More warrants were used in Iowa than in any other state. To receive federal bounty lands between 1788 and 1855, the soldier or his heirs had to apply. To obtain the land, the warrants were surrendered. These surrendered warrants are in the Eastern States Office of the Bureau of Land Management located in Alexandria , Virginia . There were 598,599 bounty land warrants issued during the period between 1788 and 1855. BLM12/30/2009 ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=dn3DbasTFq0jsd4oYO6PjAAAJ1Dm1W3M30Fw3tQUD39n6ABXAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA=

What program created the web page on Pace DNA results? I saved it to my computer but when Word tries to read it, all I see if jibberish. Betty Pace ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LVcdhLDFip0LNU4RO8UAtQAAJ1CAiKdUSf5QppXkvqWvStI4AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA=

James,   (with a copy to the Pace list as this applies to one of the defining markers between Groups 3a and 3b)   Bob Stafford's reply to you (James) on GenForum seems to have been misunderstood.  There is no recLOH at marker 385 in the Pace DNA project.   Bob Stafford, a long-term project administrator, wrote: http://genforum.genealogy.com/dna/messages/3540.html "For multi-copy markers (those labeled a, b, c, etc.), another mechanism, called a conversion (or recLoh), is possible. It is suspected when there is a multi-step mutation and a doubling of one marker. For example, in your case, if one branch were (12,14) on 385 and the other (12, 12) or (14,14), a conversion is another possible explanation." ----   There is no recLOH (recombinational loss of heterozygosity)that occurred in the Pace DNA project on marker DYS 385.    Group 3a has the value of 11-14 and Group 3b has the value of 11-12.    Those values are not indicative of recLOH - there is no doubling of one of the marker values.   When recLOH occurs, one of the groups would have had the results go to a double value.   One of the sets of results would be 11-11 or 14-14 or 12-12.  That is not the case in the Pace DNA project - there is no doubling of the values - just a two-step mutation.   Even if there were recLOH, and there isn't, it wouldn't change the close relationship of the two groups.   Another important reply from Bob Stafford to James about the Pace DNA project 2-step mutation at marker 385b follows: http://genforum.genealogy.com/dna/messages/3538.html "Yes, multi-step mutations are observed in father-son pairs. In the usual genealogical time frame, it is more likely to be a single event (with the possible exception of very fast markers such as CDY). It is best to count the number of matching markers when comparing two people of the same surname. An advantage is that two-step mutations are unlikely enough that it is a good branch-defining mutation, very unlikely to occur in another branch (parallel mutation)." ---       This reply of Bob Stafford's is exactly what we are seeing in the Pace DNA project.  We have a 2-step mutation that occurred between Groups 3a and 3b at marker 385b.  As FTDNA indicated to Roy early in the Pace DNA project, this 2-step mutation is rare and even though there is a 2-step mutation, Groups 3a and 3b are closely related.   A 2-step mutation does occur between father and son.   We now also have 67 marker results for both Groups 3a and 3b, and there really are only the 2 significant DNA changes between the two groups out of 67 markers tested - the rare 2-step mutation at marker 385b and the marker change at 449, which is a marker that has a good mutation rate making it a marker that helps separate branches of a same family in other surname projects as well.  The fact that between the two groups there is basically a 65/67 marker match (and even a higher match if you include the tested markers from other labs), also very strongly suggests these two groups are closely related.  There are some other DNA changes among different members of the 2 groups, but they are not significant on a group basis - only 385b and 449 are markers used for separating Groups 3a and 3b.   As Bob Stafford indicated, these rare two-step (or multi-step) mutations are "good branch defining mutation[s], very unlikely to occur in another branch (parallel mutation)."   That is, the 2-step mutation at marker 385b helps us separate different branches of the same family. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> Subject: RE: reLOH mutations To: "'james pace'" <mogone.dan@hotmail.com> Cc: "'Rebecca Christensen'" <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:50 PM I saved your email for later response. I need to do more reading on slip strand and reLOH mucations.   Rebecca Christensen is our best expert on DNA and here is her conclusion: -------- As an aside, in case someone is wondering why I indicated Group 3b changed from Group 3a,  the "defining" markers for Group 3a also match the London participant who we know the common ancestor with Group 3a is further in the past - so the earlier shared Pace ancestor also had the Group 3a "defining" marker results. Group 3a also matches the results at the Group 3 "defining" markers for the larger population group Haplogroup R1b that Groups 3a and 3b belong to.  So it is Group 3b that has had the change from the ancient population group as a whole, besides being different from the results of the shared common ancestor between Group 3a and the London participant.  So, Group 3a results are the "ancestral" Pace DNA results for Group 3, while Group 3b has had the change from the "ancestral" Pace DNA results.   So the reason for the conclusion is the fact that 3a seems to reach further back into England because of the match with the London Pace who is for sure not a descendent of American Paces.   Maybe Rebecca would want to discuss or explain this further.   Roy Johnson     From: james pace [mailto:mogone.dan@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:31 AM To: dna@pacesociety.com Subject: reLOH mutations   It seems to be assumed that group 3b in your study would be a mutation from the 3a group. This assumption maybe incorrect. Double mutations, as occurring at site 385b, are thought to be more frequently a result of recLOH than slip strand. reLOH mutation would explain the change in allele from 12 to 14.   Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.