Lois, You've been actively researching the ROBINSON surname. Would you know Leland Robinson of Frederick, Maryland, USA? Leland W. Robinson Frederick, Maryland, USA robinson942@comcast.net He has just posted on eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com astonishing Shropshire facts, both surnames and locale, common to our mutual ancestry. PLease let me know if this person is known to you and your research. Gord Pace, Ontario, Canada

John's chart would not affect your Paces as Fluvanna Paces were all (as far as I know as of now)- John of Middlesex Paces and John's chart deals with the group 3 Paces exclusively. I have not seen any new information that would help with your line. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lois L. Carey Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:19 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Group 3 DNA Charts-Cosby Alonzo-Kit # 57109 Since I have been trying to identify the Cosby name and a possible connection to my Paces in Fluvanna Va Is there any additional information available? My grgrandfather, John R.Pace named one of his sons-Richard Alphonso? Pace. The mother of this son has only been identified as Elizabeth b. 1815, However, there was a "Aunt Fanny Cosby" living with the family in 1900. I have also seen her first name as Louisa She was born in Alabama about 1825, returned to Virginia and married a Edwin N.Cosby who was a widower.They were neighbors of my family prior to her boarding with them in 1900. Edwin N. Cosby witnessed an application for a pension for my grgrandmother, Mary A. Herndon Robinson. Mary Herndon married David Robinson who may have a Cosby connection. He was born 1789 and died in 1861. He was the Father of Rebecca Ann Robinson (Roberson,Robertson) who married my grandfather, JohnWalker Pace b. 1843 in VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <pjohndeb@verizon.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [PACE] Group 3 DNA Charts > Since I am the one responsible for the creation of the Group 3 DNA > charts, > I feel I should explain them a little better. The first chart, created in > 2004 I believe, was created to show the fallacies in the lineages > submitted > by DNA donors. Most of the donors obtained their listed lineages from the > book by Bruce Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors. Even though DNA has proven > that Mr. Howard was wrong on some of the lineages he posted in his book, > he > was correct on many more. Also to note is that he had a wealth of > information in his book and he firmly stated that further research needed > to > be done on many lines. The naming patterns shown in the first chart were > just another tool to illustrate the fallacies of the lineages. To sum up, > this chart actually illustrated mistakes in the lineages and was not meant > for anyone to use to see their own lineage. This chart has served it's > purpose and is no longer useful. > > The second chart was created in 2005 and was only available on the private > side of the Pace Society Website. The reason it was only on the private > side > is because it was based on lineages provided by the Pace Society > Bulletins. > And since the Society sells copies of the Bulletins to create funds, I > felt > a chart compiling the information contained in them should only be > available > to members. This chart showed that much of the earlier research and > conclusions reached by others was more accurate, [or I should say agreed > with the DNA results], than some of the conclusions of Mr. Howard. Since > new > information has been obtained and a new chart created, this chart is also, > no longer useful. > > The third chart which was just posted recently[ > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names.htm ]is a compilation of Pace Society > Bulletins, genealogy books, and most importantly, the recent research of > original documents done by many members of the Society. This chart is the > most accurate one which I have made and is as accurate as it can be using > the information presently available; however, it should be used with > skepticism, as should anyone's opinion on your lineage. Our historian, > Valerie Tice is tirelessly researching everyday and turning up new > information, so some of the conclusions shown in the present chart could > be > shown incorrect in the future. I do plan for this chart to be updated as > new > information is obtained and would like to ask for help in that matter. If > you find information that disproves the conclusions depicted in the chart, > please send me an email [pjohndeb@hotmail.com] explaining your arguments > and > let's keep this chart as accurate as we can. The reason the chart is on > the > public side of the website is so anyone can add their two cents worth and > do > not have to be a member of PSA to do so. However, we welcome new members > and > there are many original documents in the PSA database available to members > which are invaluable to serious researchers. I would like to add that the > lineage conclusions depicted in the chart are not just my opinion; they > are > the opinions and conclusions of several top researchers in the PSA. > > John Pace > Trustee, PSA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since I have been trying to identify the Cosby name and a possible connection to my Paces in Fluvanna Va Is there any additional information available? My grgrandfather, John R.Pace named one of his sons-Richard Alphonso? Pace. The mother of this son has only been identified as Elizabeth b. 1815, However, there was a "Aunt Fanny Cosby" living with the family in 1900. I have also seen her first name as Louisa She was born in Alabama about 1825, returned to Virginia and married a Edwin N.Cosby who was a widower.They were neighbors of my family prior to her boarding with them in 1900. Edwin N. Cosby witnessed an application for a pension for my grgrandmother, Mary A. Herndon Robinson. Mary Herndon married David Robinson who may have a Cosby connection. He was born 1789 and died in 1861. He was the Father of Rebecca Ann Robinson (Roberson,Robertson) who married my grandfather, JohnWalker Pace b. 1843 in VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <pjohndeb@verizon.net> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [PACE] Group 3 DNA Charts > Since I am the one responsible for the creation of the Group 3 DNA > charts, > I feel I should explain them a little better. The first chart, created in > 2004 I believe, was created to show the fallacies in the lineages > submitted > by DNA donors. Most of the donors obtained their listed lineages from the > book by Bruce Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors. Even though DNA has proven > that Mr. Howard was wrong on some of the lineages he posted in his book, > he > was correct on many more. Also to note is that he had a wealth of > information in his book and he firmly stated that further research needed > to > be done on many lines. The naming patterns shown in the first chart were > just another tool to illustrate the fallacies of the lineages. To sum up, > this chart actually illustrated mistakes in the lineages and was not meant > for anyone to use to see their own lineage. This chart has served it's > purpose and is no longer useful. > > The second chart was created in 2005 and was only available on the private > side of the Pace Society Website. The reason it was only on the private > side > is because it was based on lineages provided by the Pace Society > Bulletins. > And since the Society sells copies of the Bulletins to create funds, I > felt > a chart compiling the information contained in them should only be > available > to members. This chart showed that much of the earlier research and > conclusions reached by others was more accurate, [or I should say agreed > with the DNA results], than some of the conclusions of Mr. Howard. Since > new > information has been obtained and a new chart created, this chart is also, > no longer useful. > > The third chart which was just posted recently[ > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names.htm ]is a compilation of Pace Society > Bulletins, genealogy books, and most importantly, the recent research of > original documents done by many members of the Society. This chart is the > most accurate one which I have made and is as accurate as it can be using > the information presently available; however, it should be used with > skepticism, as should anyone's opinion on your lineage. Our historian, > Valerie Tice is tirelessly researching everyday and turning up new > information, so some of the conclusions shown in the present chart could > be > shown incorrect in the future. I do plan for this chart to be updated as > new > information is obtained and would like to ask for help in that matter. If > you find information that disproves the conclusions depicted in the chart, > please send me an email [pjohndeb@hotmail.com] explaining your arguments > and > let's keep this chart as accurate as we can. The reason the chart is on > the > public side of the website is so anyone can add their two cents worth and > do > not have to be a member of PSA to do so. However, we welcome new members > and > there are many original documents in the PSA database available to members > which are invaluable to serious researchers. I would like to add that the > lineage conclusions depicted in the chart are not just my opinion; they > are > the opinions and conclusions of several top researchers in the PSA. > > John Pace > Trustee, PSA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Since I am the one responsible for the creation of the Group 3 DNA charts, I feel I should explain them a little better. The first chart, created in 2004 I believe, was created to show the fallacies in the lineages submitted by DNA donors. Most of the donors obtained their listed lineages from the book by Bruce Howard, Our Colonial Ancestors. Even though DNA has proven that Mr. Howard was wrong on some of the lineages he posted in his book, he was correct on many more. Also to note is that he had a wealth of information in his book and he firmly stated that further research needed to be done on many lines. The naming patterns shown in the first chart were just another tool to illustrate the fallacies of the lineages. To sum up, this chart actually illustrated mistakes in the lineages and was not meant for anyone to use to see their own lineage. This chart has served it's purpose and is no longer useful. The second chart was created in 2005 and was only available on the private side of the Pace Society Website. The reason it was only on the private side is because it was based on lineages provided by the Pace Society Bulletins. And since the Society sells copies of the Bulletins to create funds, I felt a chart compiling the information contained in them should only be available to members. This chart showed that much of the earlier research and conclusions reached by others was more accurate, [or I should say agreed with the DNA results], than some of the conclusions of Mr. Howard. Since new information has been obtained and a new chart created, this chart is also, no longer useful. The third chart which was just posted recently[ http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names.htm ]is a compilation of Pace Society Bulletins, genealogy books, and most importantly, the recent research of original documents done by many members of the Society. This chart is the most accurate one which I have made and is as accurate as it can be using the information presently available; however, it should be used with skepticism, as should anyone's opinion on your lineage. Our historian, Valerie Tice is tirelessly researching everyday and turning up new information, so some of the conclusions shown in the present chart could be shown incorrect in the future. I do plan for this chart to be updated as new information is obtained and would like to ask for help in that matter. If you find information that disproves the conclusions depicted in the chart, please send me an email [pjohndeb@hotmail.com] explaining your arguments and let's keep this chart as accurate as we can. The reason the chart is on the public side of the website is so anyone can add their two cents worth and do not have to be a member of PSA to do so. However, we welcome new members and there are many original documents in the PSA database available to members which are invaluable to serious researchers. I would like to add that the lineage conclusions depicted in the chart are not just my opinion; they are the opinions and conclusions of several top researchers in the PSA. John Pace Trustee, PSA

Rebecca I personally have no idea of my correct lineage--I accepted both charts John put out.  I am number 20864--typed in adjacent to Robert who is in the George/Sarah block of John's chart.  Either way (old chart or new) I am related to Richard Pace/Isabela Smyth according to the two charts.  My current phantasy would be to get in shape to go to England and live six or eight months or maybe a year and research from Richard on back.  As you can see I am a somewhat careless genealogist who reads what other people do--but I do enjoy it.  My late wife Barbara was a stickler for accuracy and detail.  She was a Quisenberry and had an excellent collection together when she passed away two years ago. Maurice Pace.           --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 3:50 PM Maurice,   I will look into the GA tax lists. Thanks.   John Pace appears to be William Pace's son through his wife Jemima, not his first wife.  William's will, which I have a copy of the original Franklin County, NC record of it, says "Item, I give & Bequeath to my Beloved wife Jemima Pace the Use of the Manner Plantation During her Widowhood   .....   Item I give and Bequeath to My Son John Pace the manner Plantation after the mariage or Decease of his Mother"  (Will of William Pace, Franklin Co., NC, dated 2 May 1789, also witnessed 25 Feb 1790; Franklin County, North Carolina, Wills and inventory records, Books A-B, 1785-1804, Will Book A, pp. 68,69. FHL Microfilm 0018903.) William Pace's will suggests that Jemima was John's mother.  John married Sarah Strickland, daughter of neighbor Elisha Strickland.   John Pace was born between 1755 and 1774 while his wife Sarah Strickland was born between 1774 and 1780.   They appear to be the parents of several children born during the 1790s - four daughters and two sons, so Sarah Strickland was probably born closer to the 1774 date.  Only two of these children have been identified.  They also had other children born later. Are you saying you are descended from George Pace and Ann Pill?  If so, that George Pace is not the son of William Pace who died in 1790 whose widow was Jemima.  Rebecca Christensen --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:25 PM Rebecca I misquoted about Census Records--I meant to be talking Georgia Tax Records for the placement of Jemima Pace--I believe she went to Georgia for over five years after 1790.  Again I am talking from memory. I do have Bruce Howard's book.  It has a typewritten copy of William Pace's will on page 487/488.  George and John evidently were sons from his first marriage.  I originally thought this was my own line but I have since decided it is not.  My George Pace I now believe is the one depicted on the page http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names. htm on the rar right hand side of the chart. I am not very progessional as a genealogist but I have enjoyed Bruce's book a great deal. Since I am a quarter Howard I got double benefit from buying it.  He promised a second volume on page 179 but he gave all his records to another genalogist who promised eventually to publish. Maurice Pace   t9om .    --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:31 PM Maurice,    I did not mention William's sons, only the daughters.  You are correct that he had sons as well.  His will mentions his younger sons George and John.  He also was the father of William Pace Jr. who married Ruth Lambert ("the girl next door").    Be aware that Bruce Howard's book has several errors for this line of Paces and incomplete information.    When and where did you find Jemima Pace in Georgia records?  She appears in the records of Franklin Co., NC in the following years in church records, tax lists, census records, etc.:  1788, 1789, 1790, 1792, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1820, and her probate records in 1824.   I don't have the Franklin Co., NC tax lists for 1811-1820.   She can be tracked in Franklin Co., NC for several years.  I don't see how she could be in several censuses in Georgia.   William Pace (Jr.) did move to Georgia so some of this family did make the move there.  It is possible that Jemima moved there temporarily for a short time and then moved back to NC.  If so, I would be very interested in any information you can share about her in Georgia. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:  "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife. Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there. My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.  Maurice Pace.  .   --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Pace has updated his colorized lineage charts for Groups 3a and 3b.   They are now available on the Pace DNA project website at: http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names.htm The chart is shown as two parts as it is too wide to fit across the screen and be readable. Thanks, John, for your work in putting together these charts! Rebecca Christensen

Maurice,   I will look into the GA tax lists. Thanks.   John Pace appears to be William Pace's son through his wife Jemima, not his first wife.  William's will, which I have a copy of the original Franklin County, NC record of it, says "Item, I give & Bequeath to my Beloved wife Jemima Pace the Use of the Manner Plantation During her Widowhood   .....   Item I give and Bequeath to My Son John Pace the manner Plantation after the mariage or Decease of his Mother"  (Will of William Pace, Franklin Co., NC, dated 2 May 1789, also witnessed 25 Feb 1790; Franklin County, North Carolina, Wills and inventory records, Books A-B, 1785-1804, Will Book A, pp. 68,69. FHL Microfilm 0018903.) William Pace's will suggests that Jemima was John's mother.  John married Sarah Strickland, daughter of neighbor Elisha Strickland.   John Pace was born between 1755 and 1774 while his wife Sarah Strickland was born between 1774 and 1780.   They appear to be the parents of several children born during the 1790s - four daughters and two sons, so Sarah Strickland was probably born closer to the 1774 date.  Only two of these children have been identified.  They also had other children born later. Are you saying you are descended from George Pace and Ann Pill?  If so, that George Pace is not the son of William Pace who died in 1790 whose widow was Jemima.  Rebecca Christensen --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:25 PM Rebecca I misquoted about Census Records--I meant to be talking Georgia Tax Records for the placement of Jemima Pace--I believe she went to Georgia for over five years after 1790.  Again I am talking from memory. I do have Bruce Howard's book.  It has a typewritten copy of William Pace's will on page 487/488.  George and John evidently were sons from his first marriage.  I originally thought this was my own line but I have since decided it is not.  My George Pace I now believe is the one depicted on the page http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names. htm on the rar right hand side of the chart. I am not very progessional as a genealogist but I have enjoyed Bruce's book a great deal. Since I am a quarter Howard I got double benefit from buying it.  He promised a second volume on page 179 but he gave all his records to another genalogist who promised eventually to publish. Maurice Pace   t9om .    --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:31 PM Maurice,    I did not mention William's sons, only the daughters.  You are correct that he had sons as well.  His will mentions his younger sons George and John.  He also was the father of William Pace Jr. who married Ruth Lambert ("the girl next door").    Be aware that Bruce Howard's book has several errors for this line of Paces and incomplete information.    When and where did you find Jemima Pace in Georgia records?  She appears in the records of Franklin Co., NC in the following years in church records, tax lists, census records, etc.:  1788, 1789, 1790, 1792, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1820, and her probate records in 1824.   I don't have the Franklin Co., NC tax lists for 1811-1820.   She can be tracked in Franklin Co., NC for several years.  I don't see how she could be in several censuses in Georgia.   William Pace (Jr.) did move to Georgia so some of this family did make the move there.  It is possible that Jemima moved there temporarily for a short time and then moved back to NC.  If so, I would be very interested in any information you can share about her in Georgia. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:  "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife. Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there. My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.  Maurice Pace.  .   --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rebecca I misquoted about Census Records--I meant to be talking Georgia Tax Records for the placement of Jemima Pace--I believe she went to Georgia for over five years after 1790.  Again I am talking from memory. I do have Bruce Howard's book.  It has a typewritten copy of William Pace's will on page 487/488.  George and John evidently were sons from his first marriage.  I originally thought this was my own line but I have since decided it is not.  My George Pace I now believe is the one depicted on the page http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/names. htm on the rar right hand side of the chart. I am not very progessional as a genealogist but I have enjoyed Bruce's book a great deal. Since I am a quarter Howard I got double benefit from buying it.  He promised a second volume on page 179 but he gave all his records to another genalogist who promised eventually to publish. Maurice Pace   t9om .    --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:31 PM Maurice,    I did not mention William's sons, only the daughters.  You are correct that he had sons as well.  His will mentions his younger sons George and John.  He also was the father of William Pace Jr. who married Ruth Lambert ("the girl next door").    Be aware that Bruce Howard's book has several errors for this line of Paces and incomplete information.    When and where did you find Jemima Pace in Georgia records?  She appears in the records of Franklin Co., NC in the following years in church records, tax lists, census records, etc.:  1788, 1789, 1790, 1792, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1820, and her probate records in 1824.   I don't have the Franklin Co., NC tax lists for 1811-1820.   She can be tracked in Franklin Co., NC for several years.  I don't see how she could be in several censuses in Georgia.   William Pace (Jr.) did move to Georgia so some of this family did make the move there.  It is possible that Jemima moved there temporarily for a short time and then moved back to NC.  If so, I would be very interested in any information you can share about her in Georgia. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:  "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife. Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there. My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.  Maurice Pace.  .   --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! 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He was born 1855 and in 1860 he was with his parents in Neshoba Co Ms Rufus parents were James W Tiner/Tyner and Martha Boler...did not find him in 1870..In 1880 he was in Newton Co, 1900 not found, 1910 he's in Holmes Co w/ new wife Georgia C Mooney, 1920 McAlester Okla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Stracener Zapalac" <zapnyou@aol.com> To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] Betty (Elizabeth) Pace/ Rufus Theodore Tiner > Betty, > > I spent some time looking for them too. No luck so far. Unfortunately, > sometimes the census misses people. Was Rufus born in Neshoba Co., MS > circa 1856/57? > > Kim > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:22 PM, <harkeysl@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> My Gr Grandfather was married to or lived with a Betty Pace in >> Mississippi. They had 3 children all males 1st born was >> Joseph Gipson Tiner (my grandfather) b: 1892 Tchula Holmes Co >> Victor Rhinehart Tiner (uncle) b: 1895 Sidon, LeFlore Co Ms >> Wm Henry Tiner (uncle) b: 1899 Thornton, Holmes Co Ms. >> >> Their soc sec applications show Rufus Theodore Tiner as >> Father and Betty Pace as Mother. >> >> I should of been able to fine them w/ their parents in 1900 census,have >> not located them or parents in this census. >> >> 1904 Rufus T Tiner re marries Georgia Carolina Mooney and >> have 2 more children, 1910 census shows their children plus >> his children from 1st marriage. and they have moved to McALester Okla. >> Children shows on census Mother born >> in Alabama. Any help would be appreciated. This has been >> a brick wall for almost 10years now. Have found many Betty >> (Elizabeth)Pace but now showing w/ any children or w/ husband >> if they were married. >> >> Betty Harkey >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Roy: Kit 163681 The specific ancestry of this donor is as follows: 3. Isaac Stephen Pace b. 8/13/1835 Cobb Co, GA, d. 2/9/1910 Paulding Co. GA, m. Sarah F. Coggins in 3/1865 in Paulding Co, GA. They had 8 kids. 4. John B. Pace b. 1797 Spartanburg Dist., SC, d. 1/5/1870 Paulding Co, GA, m. Nancy Camp in 1816 in Paulding Co, GA - they had 11 kids. 5. Isaac Pace b. 1771 Prince George Co, VA d. 1828 Gwinnett Co, GA, m. Mary Russell m. 1796 Greenville Co SC. They had 7 kids. 6. John Pace, Sr. b. 1748 Prince George Co, VA, d. 1825 Greenville Co, SC, m. Ann Russell m. 11/26/1769 Brunswick Co, VA. They had 8 kids. 7. Francis Pace b. 1718 Prince George Co, VA d. abt 1792 prob. in Dinwiddie Co, VA. M. Ann Biggins abt 1740. They had 7 kids. 8 Richard Pace b. abt 1690 VA m. Sarah Woodliefe abt 1710 - 4 known kids. This, of course, goes back a couple of more generations to Richard Pace of Jamestown. You may want to convey this ancestry to the donor who apparently is not familiar with it. And I can provide the donor with a lot more details if he or she is interested. Interestingly, this is part of Bruce Howard's lineage. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 5:40 PM >To: pace@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE] New results kit 163681 > >25 marker results for this kit match group 3a but the lineage does not let >us identify any specific sub group. If anyone on the list has more >information about this lineage, it would be appreciated. I will email the >donor to see if he can be more specific about dates. > > > >0. Donor > 1. James Crockett Pace b. 1900 Paulding Co. GA m. Effie Driskell > 2. Robert Franklin Pace b. 1868 Paulding Co. GA m. Elizabeth Shelnot (Sp?) > 3. Isacc (Sp?) Pace b. Paulding Co. Ga married Coggins (?) > 4. John Pace > >Roy Johnson > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Thanks. The sponsor is Imogene Moore, mump65@bellsouth.net. I emailed her with your offer and your email. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon W. Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:06 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] New results kit 163681 Roy: Kit 163681 The specific ancestry of this donor is as follows: 3. Isaac Stephen Pace b. 8/13/1835 Cobb Co, GA, d. 2/9/1910 Paulding Co. GA, m. Sarah F. Coggins in 3/1865 in Paulding Co, GA. They had 8 kids. 4. John B. Pace b. 1797 Spartanburg Dist., SC, d. 1/5/1870 Paulding Co, GA, m. Nancy Camp in 1816 in Paulding Co, GA - they had 11 kids. 5. Isaac Pace b. 1771 Prince George Co, VA d. 1828 Gwinnett Co, GA, m. Mary Russell m. 1796 Greenville Co SC. They had 7 kids. 6. John Pace, Sr. b. 1748 Prince George Co, VA, d. 1825 Greenville Co, SC, m. Ann Russell m. 11/26/1769 Brunswick Co, VA. They had 8 kids. 7. Francis Pace b. 1718 Prince George Co, VA d. abt 1792 prob. in Dinwiddie Co, VA. M. Ann Biggins abt 1740. They had 7 kids. 8 Richard Pace b. abt 1690 VA m. Sarah Woodliefe abt 1710 - 4 known kids. This, of course, goes back a couple of more generations to Richard Pace of Jamestown. You may want to convey this ancestry to the donor who apparently is not familiar with it. And I can provide the donor with a lot more details if he or she is interested. Interestingly, this is part of Bruce Howard's lineage. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> >Sent: Dec 14, 2009 5:40 PM >To: pace@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE] New results kit 163681 > >25 marker results for this kit match group 3a but the lineage does not let >us identify any specific sub group. If anyone on the list has more >information about this lineage, it would be appreciated. I will email the >donor to see if he can be more specific about dates. > > > >0. Donor > 1. James Crockett Pace b. 1900 Paulding Co. GA m. Effie Driskell > 2. Robert Franklin Pace b. 1868 Paulding Co. GA m. Elizabeth Shelnot (Sp?) > 3. Isacc (Sp?) Pace b. Paulding Co. Ga married Coggins (?) > 4. John Pace > >Roy Johnson > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, I spent some time looking for them too. No luck so far. Unfortunately, sometimes the census misses people. Was Rufus born in Neshoba Co., MS circa 1856/57? Kim On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:22 PM, <harkeysl@bellsouth.net> wrote: > My Gr Grandfather was married to or lived with a Betty Pace in > Mississippi. They had 3 children all males 1st born was > Joseph Gipson Tiner (my grandfather) b: 1892 Tchula Holmes Co > Victor Rhinehart Tiner (uncle) b: 1895 Sidon, LeFlore Co Ms > Wm Henry Tiner (uncle) b: 1899 Thornton, Holmes Co Ms. > > Their soc sec applications show Rufus Theodore Tiner as > Father and Betty Pace as Mother. > > I should of been able to fine them w/ their parents in 1900 census,have not located them or parents in this census. > > 1904 Rufus T Tiner re marries Georgia Carolina Mooney and > have 2 more children, 1910 census shows their children plus > his children from 1st marriage. and they have moved to McALester Okla. Children shows on census Mother born > in Alabama. Any help would be appreciated. This has been > a brick wall for almost 10years now. Have found many Betty > (Elizabeth)Pace but now showing w/ any children or w/ husband > if they were married. > > Betty Harkey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Gr Grandfather was married to or lived with a Betty Pace in Mississippi. They had 3 children all males 1st born was Joseph Gipson Tiner (my grandfather) b: 1892 Tchula Holmes Co Victor Rhinehart Tiner (uncle) b: 1895 Sidon, LeFlore Co Ms Wm Henry Tiner (uncle) b: 1899 Thornton, Holmes Co Ms. Their soc sec applications show Rufus Theodore Tiner as Father and Betty Pace as Mother. I should of been able to fine them w/ their parents in 1900 census,have not located them or parents in this census. 1904 Rufus T Tiner re marries Georgia Carolina Mooney and have 2 more children, 1910 census shows their children plus his children from 1st marriage. and they have moved to McALester Okla. Children shows on census Mother born in Alabama. Any help would be appreciated. This has been a brick wall for almost 10years now. Have found many Betty (Elizabeth)Pace but now showing w/ any children or w/ husband if they were married. Betty Harkey

Rebecca & Maurice: Thank you for the detail about this Jemima, etc.. I had my hopes up, but my Jemima was thought to be deceased by 1805 when Solomon Pace married Marie Alary in Quebec. The record lists Solomon as the son a Thomas Pace and of the deceased "Jeamimy" of North Carolina. The record is not as clearly legible as it could be so the name "Jeamimy" is what it looks like to me, thus "Jemima" is my interpretation of the French as it is written. I could be way off, I suppose. I have not seen the actual record...only the on-line version. Other records also show that a William Robson or Robeson was a baptism witness/sponsor of a child of Solomon. This is a surname that also appears in some North Carolina census data of that time frame. Solomon died in 1831 at around 50 years of age which places his birth around +/- 1781. His mother was said to be deceased by 1805, but his father, Thomas, was not. The record is not specific about whether Thomas was in Quebec or still in North Carolina. A bit of a mystery. Quite some time ago, a then list member, (Frank Blair, I think,) made reference to one Thomas Pace who had his property confiscated after the revolution and then disappeared, relinquishing his dower rights and whatever else he had left behind in North Carolina to his wife. But her name was not Jemima, as I recall. Is this anecdote familiar to anyone else and do we know who this Thomas Pace might belong to? Thanks again! Dick Baribeau -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pace-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:01 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: PACE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 20 Today's Topics: 1. Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. (Dick Baribeau) 2. Re: Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. (Rebecca Christensen) 3. Re: Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. (Maurice PACE) 4. Re: Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. (Rebecca Christensen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:34:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1915943669.3916331264527284840.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.westchester.pa.mail.co mcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "Free White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.? No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomon Pace, son of Thomas Pace? ?I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:10:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <222096.4175.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dick, ?? Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.? Jemima Pace died about 1824.? William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford. ? There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family. ?? I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.? I just went back and re-examined the census images.?? After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.?? Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.? No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace? ?I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:39:36 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <798300.69154.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:? "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife.?Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there.?My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.? Maurice Pace.??. ? --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick, ?? Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.? Jemima Pace died about 1824.? William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford. ? There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family. ?? I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.? I just went back and re-examined the census images.?? After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.?? Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.? No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace? ?I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:31:37 -0800 (PST) From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <987321.74272.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Maurice, ?? I did not mention William's sons, only the daughters.? You are correct that he had sons as well.? His will mentions his younger sons George and John.? He also was the father of William Pace Jr. who married Ruth Lambert ("the girl next door").? ? Be aware that Bruce Howard's book has several errors for this line of Paces and incomplete information. ?? When and where did you find Jemima Pace in Georgia records?? She appears in the records of Franklin Co., NC in the following years in church records, tax lists, census records, etc.:? 1788, 1789, 1790, 1792, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1820, and her probate records in 1824.? I don't have the Franklin Co., NC tax lists for 1811-1820.?? She can be tracked in Franklin Co., NC for several years.? I don't see how she could be in several censuses in Georgia. ? William Pace (Jr.) did move to Georgia so some of this family did make the move there.? It is possible that Jemima moved there temporarily for a short time and then moved back to NC.? If so, I would be very interested in any information you can share about her in Georgia. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:? "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife.?Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there.?My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.? Maurice Pace.??. ? --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick, ?? Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.? Jemima Pace died about 1824.? William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford. ? There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family. ?? I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.? I just went back and re-examined the census images.?? After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.?? Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.? No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace? ?I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! 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A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau

Maurice,    I did not mention William's sons, only the daughters.  You are correct that he had sons as well.  His will mentions his younger sons George and John.  He also was the father of William Pace Jr. who married Ruth Lambert ("the girl next door").    Be aware that Bruce Howard's book has several errors for this line of Paces and incomplete information.    When and where did you find Jemima Pace in Georgia records?  She appears in the records of Franklin Co., NC in the following years in church records, tax lists, census records, etc.:  1788, 1789, 1790, 1792, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1820, and her probate records in 1824.  I don't have the Franklin Co., NC tax lists for 1811-1820.   She can be tracked in Franklin Co., NC for several years.  I don't see how she could be in several censuses in Georgia.   William Pace (Jr.) did move to Georgia so some of this family did make the move there.  It is possible that Jemima moved there temporarily for a short time and then moved back to NC.  If so, I would be very interested in any information you can share about her in Georgia. Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Maurice PACE <bpaceftw@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:39 PM Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:  "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife. Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there. My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.  Maurice Pace.  .   --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rebecca and Dick I used to believe this William was my ancestor until I bought Bruce Howard"s book:  "PACE Our Colonial Ancestors, 1619 to 1799". From memory I believe that your William did have a son George by his first wife. Jemima is in the Geolrgia census for several years; I believe she moved back to N. C. and died there. My George was approximately the same age as William's son George.  Maurice Pace.  .   --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] Jemima Pace Franklin Co., N.C. To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dick,    Jemima Pace was the widow of William Pace who died about 1790 in Franklin Co., NC. She was his second wife.  Jemima Pace died about 1824.  William's will listed six daughters: Martha, Beddie [often a nickname for Obedience in this area], Edie, Zana, Mary and Winneford.   There is no Thomas or Solomon Pace in this family.    I don't know why Ancestry.com is now saying that the location was Louisburg as that is incorrect and is labeled incorrectly for several images prior to this page.  I just went back and re-examined the census images.   After the county boundaries were changed, the Pace's land was along the Wake/Franklin County border.   Rebecca Christensen --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> wrote: From: Dick Baribeau <dick.barabo@comcast.net> Subject: [PACE] Jemima Pace Louisburg, N.C. To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:34 AM A Jemima Pace is found on the 1800 US Federal Census in Louisburg, Franklin, North Carolina: roll:31; Page 471; Image :430; FHLFilm:337907. She is listed as a white female and, under the listing of household members, under "F ree White Females" there are 2, ages 16-25, 1, ages 16-44, and 1, age 45+.  No white males are shown. There are also 2 listed under slaves. Has anyone connected this person to any then existing (late 1700 - 1800) Pace lines? Or to a spouse? I am wondering if this is the woman referenced as being the mother of Solomo n Pace, son of Thomas Pace?  I will appreciate any feedback and guidance about this person. Thank You! Dick Baribeau ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would appreciate any comments concerning Duncan A. Pace that married Tirzah Ann Banks daughter of Jordan Banks in Washington County Arkansas 6 Sept 1866. I would like to place him with his parents if possible. He could be a descendant of William Pace married Sisley Walker in NC and died in Montgomery County TN 1845. He could belong elsewhere. I have given below some notes on the Duncan A. Pace family. Shirley Pace Graham Washington County is the neighboring county south of Benton County Arkansas. Duncan's oldest child is named Alsy/Aulsey. If this Duncan A. Pace does belong with the descendants of William and Sisley, I have 2 candidates: 1. Gideon G. Pace (b. 2 Sep 1814) son of Henning Pace. This Gideon could have a wife before Nancy Dickinson, possibly a Woods or Woods related girl because he lived near this group in Arkansas. Woods names were on his performance bond when he became Sheriff the first time, but different people were listed his 2nd term as Sheriff. This Gideon G. Pace was also associated with Woods in Haywood County TN. 2. Alsy Pace born about 1803-4 son of Henning Pace. Alsy/Alsey/Aulsey Pace and Mary Johnson were married in Madison County TN 27 Jun 1824. Henning and his sons William and Alsey begin appearing in Madison County TN court records 1822. If this Duncan A. Pace belongs with the Alsy Pace 1803-4, Duncan A. would have to be the child Alexander listed in the Lawrence County MO census of 1850, then he would have to leave the rest of his family in Missouri and move to North West Arkansas, then on to Texas. Mary Johnson Pace's father was named Duncan Johnson and she had a brother Alexander. An old group sheet prepared years ago from information given to the Pace Society by Mrs. Gail Hamil of Kennesaw, GA listed the following children : [My further information is In brackets after the group sheet information.] 1. Aulcey Jordan Banks Pace b. 25 Jan 1867/8 Fayetteville AR d. 25 Jul 1965 married Nettie Calhoun [He was living in Quay County NM in 1910, moved back to Texas. Texas Certificate of Death lists Aulcy Jorden Pace born Jan 25 1868; died in Hall County TX 25 Jul 1965; parents listed as Jorden Pace and Thursie Banks] 2. Mary Amnie Susannah Jane Pace b. 9 Feb 1872 Fayetteville AR d. 28 Dec 1959 married Thomas James Cobb. [Texas Certificate of Death lists Amnie Mary Cobb parents Duncan J. Pace and Turzia Ann Banks; she was born 9 Feb 1872 Arkansas, died Lubbock, Lubbock, Texas 28 Dec 1959.] 3. Fred Pace married Lillie [Texas Certificate of Death---Fred John Pace b. 22 Dec 1875 Fayetteville AR d. Memphis, Hall County TX 15 Oct 1953 parents Duncan A. Pace b. AR and Tirsey Banks b. AR.] 4. William Samuel Pace married Bobbie [Texas Certificate of Death----William Samuel Wright Pace born 10 Mar 1877 Fayetteville Arkansas; died Memphis, Hall County TX 10 Mar 1877. Home was Estelline. Parents Duncan Pace and Tersey Ann Banks.] 1870 Washington County AR, Prairie township listed D. A. Pace 36, C. A. Pace 26, Alie 3 dau (son). 1880 McLennan County TX D. A. Pace is 42 b. AR his parents b. TN T. A. Pace is 38 b. AR wife her father b. TN and mother b. IN Alcy 12 son Emily 8 dau Freddie 4 son Billie 2 son Jane Banks 26 sister in law is also in the household. [Note: the other Pace in McLennan County TX in 1880 is Gideon G. Pace listed one page away from D. A. Pace] 1900 census McLennan County TX: Duncan A. and Tirzah Banks Pace are not located and apparently dead. Aulcy b. Jan 1868 head of the household Fred b. Dec 1875 brother Bill b. Mar 1877 brother

Val: That is really exciting that there was a Pace associated with creating the filming of "Avatar". My wife and I saw the movie at an Imax in 3-D two weeks ago, in Dublin, CA. I consider it one of the 3 greatest movies I have ever seen. My number one is still "2001: A Space Odyssey". What I found most surprising was the excellence of the screenplay, written by James Cameron. As an avid science fiction fan, I found it to be one of the most intriguing and moving themes of science fiction ever. Hate to be a movie reviewer but this is a must see for everyone. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: val & jeff tice <vtice12@comcast.net> >Sent: Jan 21, 2010 9:10 PM >To: pace@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE] Vince Pace > >This isn't genealogical in nature, but I did want to mention that for those >who have seen Avatar in 3D, you have a Pace to thank. Vince Pace is the >co-creator along with James Cameron of the camera technology used. He's >worked with Cameron before including on The Abyss and Titanic. The December >issue of Wired discusses it. That issue won't be on-line for a few more >months, but there are other websites including Wikipedia that talk about the >camera technology and Vince Pace. > > > >Val > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com