You were quite a shock to this 80 year old; My brother was Clyde DeLane Pace in the Edmund Pace line.Just seeing Clyde Pace kinda shook me.Welcome to the Pace Group. Some of the finest people around in this era. Billie Wingate --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Clyde Pace <cpace3@kc.rr.com> wrote: From: Clyde Pace <cpace3@kc.rr.com> Subject: [PACE] Hi, I'm new To: PACE@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:10 AM Hello, My name is Clyde Wilson Pace, 3rd. I'm new to the Pace Society and to this site. My background is primarily from Missouri, Cole County and I can go back to William Frank Pace, Cole County (My great-grandfather). But there it stops/changes/disappears. I can locate a William Franklin Pace (from Joseph Griffin Pace and Margaret Murray), but my great-grandfather William Frank Pace married Phoebe Isabel Glenn, they had Clyde William Pace (my grandfather) who married Mary Rose Agnes Dirckx, they had my father Clyde Wilson Pace, Jr who married Sarilou Smart, then I came along. Obviously, the area of concern is William Frank Pace and William Franklin Pace, both showing identical Cole County birth and death dates, but with two different wives... if this is not the proper forum for these types of questions, I apologize. Thanks, Clyde ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello, My name is Clyde Wilson Pace, 3rd. I'm new to the Pace Society and to this site. My background is primarily from Missouri, Cole County and I can go back to William Frank Pace, Cole County (My great-grandfather). But there it stops/changes/disappears. I can locate a William Franklin Pace (from Joseph Griffin Pace and Margaret Murray), but my great-grandfather William Frank Pace married Phoebe Isabel Glenn, they had Clyde William Pace (my grandfather) who married Mary Rose Agnes Dirckx, they had my father Clyde Wilson Pace, Jr who married Sarilou Smart, then I came along. Obviously, the area of concern is William Frank Pace and William Franklin Pace, both showing identical Cole County birth and death dates, but with two different wives... if this is not the proper forum for these types of questions, I apologize. Thanks, Clyde
Roy asked 28/12/2005 [PACE-L] New DNA liine I received a DNA application from a person of the following line. Does anyone have info on this line further back? Re: [PACE-L] New DNA line 28/12/2005 This is also my line. I have proof back to John R. Pace and Emily Taylor, but no "PROOF" past that. There is a website though that has this line connected back to John of Middlesex. I've never been able to get any proof from the person who owns this site though. In face I've never gotten an email back from this person at all. Here is the website if anyone is interested in what they have. _http://www.imagesverite.com/genealogy/pace_pg_3.htm_ (http://www.imagesverite.com/genealogy/pace_pg_3.htm) PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT purporting that anything on this site is true or not true. Jim Hughes 28/12/2005 JusMeJim@aol.com I received a DNA application from a person of the following line. Does anyone have info on this line further back? Donor (Father) 1. Luke Frances Pace, B: 18 may 1890, Centertown Cole Co., Mo. D: 19 May 1965, Fort Supply, Woodward Co. Ok. (Mother) + Romania May Brown, B: 30 Apr. 1911, Texhoma, TX., D: 2 Feb.1990, Yakima, Yakima Co, Wa (Grandfather) 2. Joseph Griffin Pace, B: Nov 1832, IL. D: abt 1868 (buried in Murray Cem. Cole Co., Mo) (Grandmother) + Sarah Catherine Byrd, B: Oct 1832, Mo. , Married: abt 1872 (buried in Murray Cem. Cole Co Mo) (Great-Grandfather) 3. John Pace, B: 18 Apr 1791, D: Camden Co, Va. (Great-Grandmother) + Emily Taylor, B: 28 Jan 1803 D: 17 sep 1876, Moniteau Co. Mo. ==== PACE Mailing List ====
Roy Johnson wrote: A new donor is due on the DNA site soon. He is a Missouri Pace from Cole County. I recall that there have been other Cole County Pace descendents on the List but do not recall exactly who they were. Perhaps someone can help him. I will encourage him to join the list for himself, but meanwhile, here is his lineage, leaving out the last two generations for privacy reasons. The following appeared on the Pace list 17/01/2000 Re: [PACE-L] Post your Pace Lineage PaceWT@gvl.esys.com wrote: As requested, here is my lineage that I have personally verified with a slight caveat. My grandfather was William Franklin Pace and I can get back to his grandfather John R. Pace and grandmother Emily Taylor. However, the birth and death dates and locations for these two were furnished by another member of this list and I don't have any other documentation to support it. Also, according to the 1920 census, William Franklin Pace claimed that his father was born in Ill. I haven't had any luck there either. If anyone has other information relating to this line, I would sure be eager to get it. Descendants of John R. Pace 1 John R. Pace b: April 18, 1790 in Nelson co. VA d: July 16, 1868 in Monateau co. MO ..+Emily Jane Taylor b: January 20, 1805 in KY d: August 17, 1876 ..2 Joseph Griffin Pace b: November 30, 1832 in Cole co, MO? d: 1917 in Cole co, MO ....+Margaret Jane Riggs b: 1835 in Cole co, MO d: 1869 in Cole co, MO m: October 09, 1856 in Cole co, MO ...3 John Isaac Pace b: Abt 1858 ...3 James Thomas Pace b: Abt 1864 ...3 William Franklin Pace b: January 11, 1866 in Centertown, Cole co MO d: 1951 in Washington, MO .......+Henrietta Aspasia Saucier b: May 28, 1879 in Stanton, MO d: Abt 1954 in Washington, MO m: November 01, 1917 in St. Louis, MO ....*2nd Wife of Joseph Griffin Pace: ....+Sarah Catherine Bird b: Abt 1859 d: 1928 m: Abt 1871 in Cole county, MO? ...3 C. E. Pace ...3 Robert Daniel Pace b: 1876 d: 1951 ..2 John Thomas Pace ..2 Catherine Pace I have posted this awhile ago but hopefully, there may be a new subscriber to this list that might be able to add something to it (or can benefit from it). Sincerely, Bill Pace 17/01/2000 ==== PACE Mailing List ==== To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply to sender. The lineages deviate from JOSEPH GRIFFIN PACE 1832~1916 m: October 09, 1856 in Cole Co Margaret Jane Riggs 1835-1869 m: Abt 1871 in Cole co Sarah Catherine Bird ~1859-1928 according to Bill Pace's info JOSEPH married twice 1 Margaret Jane Riggs b: 1835 in Cole co, MO m: October 09, 1856 in Cole co, MO d: 1869 in Cole co, MO 2nd Wife of Joseph Griffin Pace: 2 Sarah Catherine Bird ~1859-1928 b: Abt 1859 m: Abt 1871 in Cole county, MO? d: 1928
Roy Johnson wrote: > A new donor is due on the DNA site soon. He is a Missouri Pace from Cole > County. I recall that there have been other Cole County Pace descendents on > the List but do not recall exactly who they were. Perhaps someone can help > him. I will encourage him to join the list for himself, but meanwhile, here > is his lineage, leaving out the last two generations for privacy reasons. > > John R. Pace > B- 4/8/1791 in VA > D- 7/7/1868 in Cole County, MO > > Joseph Griffen Pace > B- 1832 in IL > D- 5 JUL 1917 in Centertown, Cole County, MO > > William Frank Pace > B- 11 JAN 1866 in Cole County, MO > D- 19 MAR 1951, buried in McGirk, MO > > Clyde William Pace > B- 8 AUG 1894 in Knob Noster, MO > D- July 1951 in St. Louis, MO, buried in McGirk, MO > > His email is Clyde Pace [cpace3@kc.rr.com] > But it would be nice if you could post your reply to the list also. > > Roy Johnson Roy, This is what I have on that line. Descendents of John R. Pace 1 John R. Pace b: 18 Apr 1790 Albemarle Co. Virginia ..d: 06 Jul 1868 Camden Co Missouri + Emily Taylor b: 28 Jan 1803 m: 1829 d: 17 Sep 1876 Cole Co Missouri ...2 Benjamin Franklin Pace b: 1830 Tennessee ...+ Martha Jane Prine b: 20 Sep 1834 d: Abt. 1930 Camden Co Missouri ........3 Syntha Pace b: 1855 ........3 James Christopher Pace b: 1857 ........3 John Pace b: 1859 ........3 Griffin Pace b: 1864 ........3 Mary Pace b: 1871 ........3 Amanda Pace b: 1873 ........3 George Allen Pace b: 1875 ........3 Missouri Allen Pace b: 1877 ...2 Joseph Griffin Pace b: 30 Nov 1832 IL/VA d: 05 Jul 1917 Cole Co Missouri ...+ Margaret Murray b: Abt. 1835 m: 01 Jun 1855 Cole Co Missouri ........3 John Isaac Pace b: 1858 Cole Co Missouri ........3 James Thomas Pace b: 1864 Cole Co Missouri ........3 William Franklin Pace b: 1866 Cole Co Missouri ........+ Sarah Catherine Byrd b: 1852 Mo d: 15 May 1925 Cole Co Missouri .............4 Mary Etta Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Robert Daniel Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Benjamin Marshall Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Cordelia Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Elvanna Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Henry C. Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Edward Pace b: Cole Co Missouri .............4 Luke Francis Pace b: 28 May 1890 Cole Co Missouri ...............d: 19 May 1965 Fort Supply, Woodward,OK ..............+ Minnie Elma Bolton b: 05 Mar 1904 Cole Co Missouri m: 21 Jan 1921 d: 26 Jul 1937 San Diego, CA ..................5 Elma Frances Pace b: 02 Feb 1923 Centertown, Cole Co MO d: 09 Apr 1966 San Diego,CA ..................5 James Henry Pace b: 06 Sep 1927 Solano, CA d: 19 Nov 2000 Kern, CA ..................5 Luke Francis Pace Jr. b: 15 Dec 1924 d: 24 Aug 1997 Butte Co. CA ..................5 Charles Edward Pace b: 22 Aug 1929 San Diego, CA d: 27 Feb 1988 Ca ..................5 John Lloyd Pace b: 20 Jan 1935 Summersville, Missouri d: 06 Feb 2002 Ca ..................5 Shirley Ann Pace b: 07 Aug 1936 Tulsa, OK d: 20 May 1998 Clark Co, NV ..................5 Margaret Pace b: 07 Aug 1936 Tulsa, OK d: 20 May 1998 NV ..................+ Romania May Brown b: 30 Apr 1911 Texhoma, TX d: 02 Feb 1990 Yakima Co WA ..................5 [1] Willis Ray Pace ..................+ Carolyn Kay Johnson ..................*2nd Wife of [1] Willia Ray Pace: ...................+ Karen Marie Butler b: 13 Feb 1944 Neah Bay, WA d: 20 Dec 2004 Port Angeles, WA GTPace
A new donor is due on the DNA site soon. He is a Missouri Pace from Cole County. I recall that there have been other Cole County Pace descendents on the List but do not recall exactly who they were. Perhaps someone can help him. I will encourage him to join the list for himself, but meanwhile, here is his lineage, leaving out the last two generations for privacy reasons. John R. Pace B- 4/8/1791 in VA D- 7/7/1868 in Cole County, MO Joseph Griffen Pace B- 1832 in IL D- 5 JUL 1917 in Centertown, Cole County, MO William Frank Pace B- 11 JAN 1866 in Cole County, MO D- 19 MAR 1951, buried in McGirk, MO Clyde William Pace B- 8 AUG 1894 in Knob Noster, MO D- July 1951 in St. Louis, MO, buried in McGirk, MO His email is Clyde Pace [cpace3@kc.rr.com] But it would be nice if you could post your reply to the list also. Roy Johnson
works ok jp ---- Roy Johnson <roy.w.johnson@att.net> wrote: > Sorry. I missed a message about DNA that was on the list and I just wanted > to test to see if everything was coming through. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of ArlisG@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:07 PM > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACE] teat > > Teat??? > > > In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, > royj@webster.edu writes: > > test > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
came through fine jp ---- Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> wrote: > Sorry. I missed a message about DNA that was on the list and I just wanted > to test to see if everything was coming through. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of ArlisG@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:07 PM > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACE] teat > > Teat??? > > > In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, > royj@webster.edu writes: > > test > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John George is said to be the Uncle of Cecelia Johnson b.Feb. 10, 1827 in Goochland co Va Cecelia was the Dau of Anderson Johnson & Nancy Georgea Anderson George was the son of Obediah Johnson and Mary" Polly" Merrymand Cecelia Johnson married Sidney?Jesse Pace in 1841 He died in 1845 and Cecelia remarried to Samuel Bugg I have Cecelia Pace living with her father Anderson Johnson after the death of Sidney/Jesse along with a son Sidney Pace I believe that Sidney Pace also had a son named Sidney Bradford Pace, born in Fluvanna. His birth was reported by his grandmother,Cecelia Bugg. There seems to be some mystery about the family of Sidney/Jesse Pace( first husband of Cecelia) as well as the fact he and Cecelia had a son. Can anyone from the Pace, Johnson, George families add anything? Who were the parents of Harriett Pace wife of John George?
yes, I got both messages. thanks for your help. Denisha --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Roy Johnson <roy.w.johnson@att.net> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <roy.w.johnson@att.net> Subject: Re: [PACE] teat To: pace@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:54 PM Sorry. I missed a message about DNA that was on the list and I just wanted to test to see if everything was coming through. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ArlisG@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:07 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] teat Teat??? In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, royj@webster.edu writes: test ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Teat??? In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, royj@webster.edu writes: test ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sorry. I missed a message about DNA that was on the list and I just wanted to test to see if everything was coming through. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ArlisG@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:07 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] teat Teat??? In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, royj@webster.edu writes: test ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sorry. I missed a message about DNA that was on the list and I just wanted to test to see if everything was coming through. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ArlisG@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:07 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] teat Teat??? In a message dated 3/7/2010 8:52:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, royj@webster.edu writes: test ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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I emailed you a request for info to get my dna test done and I haven't gotten a response. I wanted to know the status, or whether you got the email at all. Thanks ------Original Message------ From: Roy Johnson Sender: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com To: pace@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] DNA site problems Sent: Mar 4, 2010 8:12 PM There seems to be a server problem on the Pace DNA site. I uploaded the group 3 chart to two other servers, one at Webster university and the other on the Pace Network . It works fine there. I am in the middle of a change of location right now, but if it can't be solved at our server end, I can set the charts up on the Pace Network and link from the DNA site and it will work just fine but I can't get at that for several days. Meantime hopefully the server problem can be solved. Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~Denisha Ellis~ Sent from my Verizon Wireless CrackBerry
> It would be interesting to see lineage of > Pierce who's DNA matches John of Midd. The difference in spelling is > common and name likeness are too. Yes, that would be interesting PEARCE is in Shareshill Staffordshire, although my PACE ancestry starts there around 1720 when my 6X great grandfather GEORGE PACE about 1720 came to Shareshill parish in south Staffordshire, about 30 miles east of where he was Christened in 1670 Little doubt the name similarity went further back as stated: 1. JEREMIAH PIERCE is thought to have been born in 1710 in Essex County, Virginia. (This is an unverified entry.) I have here notes of a PACE cousin, Adrian Fenton of Pittsburg PA. Our common ancestor being JOSEPH PACE Chr 1735. Adrian had included several PEARCE name entries as a variant of Pace in his study of Shareshill parish in Staffordshire. This name similarity went on in this parish into the early 1900s. It's my opinion JEREMIAH PIERCE of Virginia probably had PACE connection much further back in Shropshire. Latin was used now and then for recording in registers; the name PEACE seemed to be a minor variant too. In north Staffordshire, it took the spelling PASS and much of that migrated to Birmingham. Leonard Pace of Wolverhampton, a Pace researcher and Methodist preacher married a PASS. Based upon notes gathered from the Shareshill, Staffordshire parish Church of St.Mary & St.Luke (one church) PEACE-PACE-PIERCE-PEARCE-PASS similarity appears more common than previously thought. GEORGE PACE Chr 1670 Prees, Shropshire, thought to be brother of John Pace of Middlesex, came to Shareshill parish Staffordshire after Chr. of son JOSEPH 10 Sep 1709 at Ranton, Staffordshire. There is a first PACE entry at Shareshill in 1730, marriage of a Joshua Paste (in the register) to Margaret Mather. We are of the opinion this was Joseph Pace Christened in 1709, son of George Pace and 2nd wife Elizabeth Picken. It appeared previously, Joseph and Joshua plus minor variants of these seemed to represent the same person. I had wondered if the Latin translation had something to do with that as it likely did with understanding PEACE-PACE-PIERCE-PEARCE-PASS SOMETIME after JOSEPH PACE's Christening at RANTON in 1709 this PACE family relocated to SHARESHILL parish about 10 or 12 miles south/east of RANTON. TODAY's location near Junction 11 of M-6 Motorway. PACE family descendents are still there today and run a farm market, Holly's Farm Market near the Wheatsheaf Inn near the roundabout. Also work a TV programme Antique Roadshow seen on BBC TV. General Registers 1725-1812 Shareshill, includes Little Sardon, Laney Green Although it's interesting there are several Pearce entries in these notes, I think the ancestry of JEREMIAH PIERCE of Virginia goes much further back in time. A similar story with Palmer, Bladen which sticks close to Pace in the UK Midlands parishes they migrated to in more recent years. The Francis Palmer, father of Margaret Palmer seems to be connected to a large Palmer finding I came across from in the Welsh mountain area, Bishops Castle, Hopesay, Lydbury North. I added them to http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/records/palmer.htm Use reload or refresh to update, get latest version. Gord
yes same problem from my end too, Roy. John -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:23 PM To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PACE] Pace DNA site problems > For the last couple of days I have had difficulty browsing the Pace > charts. > They are loading agonizingly slow, on my home computer with fast fiber > optic service, and on the Webster University computers, which have very > fast > DSL or equivalent service. > > > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? I don't know what the cause is. > It > practically ruins the usability of the Pace charts. Sometimes they don't > finish loading at all. > > > > Roy Johnson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
There seems to be a server problem on the Pace DNA site. I uploaded the group 3 chart to two other servers, one at Webster university and the other on the Pace Network . It works fine there. I am in the middle of a change of location right now, but if it can't be solved at our server end, I can set the charts up on the Pace Network and link from the DNA site and it will work just fine but I can't get at that for several days. Meantime hopefully the server problem can be solved. Roy Johnson
For the last couple of days I have had difficulty browsing the Pace charts. They are loading agonizingly slow, on my home computer with fast fiber optic service, and on the Webster University computers, which have very fast DSL or equivalent service. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I don't know what the cause is. It practically ruins the usability of the Pace charts. Sometimes they don't finish loading at all. Roy Johnson
HI I saw your question on Dempsey Pace Bastrop Co, TX land. He was one of the 8 children of Gideon Pace,( 1828 settler in Austin Colony), who died in September 1829 leaving the children orphans. Four of his sons, James R., William C., Wesley W., and Dempsey C. fought at the battle of San Jacinto. James and Dempsey also fought at the Battle of Bexar. They were from TN. Gideon was the son of William Pace and Sisely Walker. In the Biographies of the San Jacinto Veterans prepared by Mr. Kemp...He states they are from VA. Which is not correct. MR Kemp assumed that the Gideon Pace sons were the sons of a William Pace from Sabine Co. TX.-- Who had 8 children and was from VA. William DeWees was Guardian of the Pace Children. Dempsey Council Pace married Elizabeth Dabney in Columbus, Colorado CO TX in 1845 They had 4 Children, Wayne(died 1861), Robert James( my Great-G Grandfather),Laura Pace Keylick, and Dempsey C Pace II( he was born in Dec 1851 after his fathers death in Oct. 1851. -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pace-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:01 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: PACE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32 Today's Topics: 1. Steger Creek Stores in Va-owned by Michael & Alex Pace (Lois L. Carey) 2. Re: Pace Land Records for The Republic of Texas and The State of Texas... (Fpg0663@wmconnect.com) 3. George Robin Pierce m. Elvira Mc Claren Steger (Lois L. Carey) 4. Pace Land Records for The Republic of Texas and the State of Texas... (Kim Stracener Zapalac) 5. New Pierce-Pace John of M posting (Roy Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:27:37 -0500 From: "Lois L. Carey" <lcarey34@verizon.net> Subject: [PACE] Steger Creek Stores in Va-owned by Michael & Alex Pace To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9021D52E4EE24783802BD59F6C51E994@yourw04gtxld67> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" iIf you google Steger Creek you will read of the ancesty of the owners Michael & Alex Pace which says Michael Pace is the gre-grandson of Robert Septimus Pace and the Grandson of Robert Stanley Pace and the son of Stafford Buck Pace. These paces are descendent of William Moment Pace who was born 1806 and married Dicy King. I believe there is some connection between my Pace family and theirs because of a chancery suit brought against them by my grandfather, John Walker Pace b. 1843, who has been connected to John Of Middlesex thru DNA To my knowledge no descendent of William Moment Pace has done the DNA test although Mr. Robert Pace who is elderly but still lives in Fluvanna did agree to do it several years ago. He has never been married and lives alone in Troy,Va I understand he has many antiques from the Pace family at his home. Would love to know if they have the same DNA ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:58:40 EST From: Fpg0663@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace Land Records for The Republic of Texas and The State of Texas... To: pace@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <f5a3.2b940115.38bfd320@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" KIM, I wonder which Dempsey Pace this was who bought land in Bastrop Co., TX. He stated he had been in Bastrop Co., TX abt. 1828 and was a single man. He bought 1,476.13 acres and it sure was cheap at that time. Thanks, Addie</HTML> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:17:30 -0500 From: "Lois L. Carey" <lcarey34@verizon.net> Subject: [PACE] George Robin Pierce m. Elvira Mc Claren Steger To: <Pace-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <40B10511337043E586FDAB887315B1E9@yourw04gtxld67> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I Have a lot of info in my records about this family For Starters- In Fluvanna County ,Va lives a Robert Pace whose family supposedly bought land from a Steger family . I have the following: William Maclaren Steger b. July 31, 1807 in Buckingham County,Va + Maria Louisa Seargeant Sept 1831-Buckingham Co Va Their daughter Elvira McClaren Steger b. 1845 in Christian County, Ky(western part of the state) + George Robin Pierce m. on Nov 18, 1862 I believe some of this info in from the Fluvanna co historical Society Bulletins Also in Va there is a store which uses the name Steger because they have some connection to fhe Fluvanna County Stegers. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:54:11 -0600 From: "Kim Stracener Zapalac" <zapnyou@aol.com> Subject: [PACE] Pace Land Records for The Republic of Texas and the State of Texas... To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001701cabb1c$10676390$31362ab0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not sure which Dempsey Pace this may be. The El Camino Real (Kings Highway) runs through Bastrop (Mina). This Dempsey Pace settled around the time that Stephen F. Austin set up the "Little Colony" of 100 families in this area, so I would think you might start with some of those sources. Another famous Texas family that came from this group was the Burleson families along with some other families that came from the Nacogdoches/Natchitoches areas (again located on the El Camino Real as was San Antonio). Another source might be the Catholic church in this area. Remember that they were "supposed" to practice the Catholic faith to be able to settle in Texas. And people left this area after The Republic of Texas and later State of Texas formed to new land grants either for their service or for other "free" land. Kim ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:35:30 -0600 From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> Subject: [PACE] New Pierce-Pace John of M posting To: <pace@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001801cabb43$5b8646d0$1292d470$@edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I just posted the alleles on the John of Middlesex chart for our second Pierce who matches with Pace and the other Pierce but not with anyone else on the Pierce study. http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/JohnOfM.htm Jack Pace has sent me a whole bunch of Pierce-Pace records that I have not had time to analyze. Apparently Pierce and Pace surnames were interchanged often in the Shropshire area and in the Middlesex area (including descending lines) . However, I have not seen instances of this interchange in other Pace lines. Has anyone? If this is a peculiarity of Shropshire and Middlesex, it further corroborates the Shropshire origins of John of M, although I think we have enough evidence already. I have not yet posted the short lineage of this donor, but I will try to get it up soon. Roy Johnson ------------------------------ To contact the PACE list administrator, send an email to PACE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACE mailing list, send an email to PACE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32 ***********************************