I discovered an e-mail you sent in 1999, while doing family research this day. I noted you have a question about a William Carroll Pace and cited the 1860 census of Marion County Arkansas and also that you know of a deed[Land transaction in Rutherford County Tennessee between Kings and Paces], that a Bob Pace made you aware of. My great-great Grandfather was the John King listed in the land transaction with the Paces in 1846, in Rutherford County Tenn. Also, if you check the Marion County Arkansas[Jimmie's Creek Township] census for 1860, you will note the Paces and Kings are once again connected. My great-great grandfather, John King was living next door the the William Carroll Pace family and furthermore, in John King's household there is a William Pace, age 89, born in North Carolina. In my family, we remain confused as to why William Pace was living in a King household. We have concluded that since the Kings and Paces were connected while ling in Rutherford County Tennessee, prior to all of them relocating to Arkansas about 1850, or so, that John King was being a good neighbor, or that the Paces and Kings were in fact relatives in some way. We are thinking that William Pace, age 89, was either William Carroll Pace's father or his grandfather. Also, we know that John King's wife was Elizabeth Ralph and her mother had been a Mc Cracken--William Carroll Pace's wife Emily had also been a McCracken before marriage. Our family focus is finding out for sure who was John King's father--the land transaction in Rutherford county Tennessee has a William King and a John King selling land to William Pace and to a William Carroll Pace--is this William King John King's father?? If you can help me, I would deeply appreciate it. Carolyn Caton [name before marriage was King]

I'll have to do some hunting to see if I still had that page. There are over 100 pages on the Pace Network and I lose track. Having moved to Stark City, I will be extremely busy with"honey-dos" for some time but I will try to squeeze in the time. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gtp3066@nexicom.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:15 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] David Pass & DNA test Roy, Re: David Pass The following request to join the Pace project was entered at Family Tree DNA by David Pass bluehorseenterprises@hotmail.com. Earliest known ancestor Nathaniel Pass of NC/VA. I sent David Pass this: Interesting, in Birmingham England, where I was born 1940, the name PASS was rather popular and nearby to the north in places like Stoke-on-Trent, Burslem, Tunstall, Burton-on-Trent (the pottery district) in south Staffordshire. Leonard William Pace, Methodist preacher of Wolverhampton and Pace family researcher is married to a PASS lady. It will be interesting to see your DNA test results. Gord Pace There was a PASS mailing list run by a man in the southern US that Debby Bayman nee Pass was on. Her ancestors were from Wolverhampton and Derbeyshire UK which is near these pottery area towns where the accents were very pronounced. I am on the Black Country list and presently there's much talk about Black Country sayings. My family had these sayings. My grandmother was a rather pious lady but when she got angry with us, a vehement stream of these appelations chased us into submission, we would all have a good laugh at them, trying to remember them, and she would resort back into her pious composure. You had a web page about sayings from the Ozarks etc. that seemed to be similar, if not the exact same. Do you still have this web page on the sayings? Probably the sayings from the pottery district of central Staffordshire are the same as those from the Black Country in south Staffordshire. The distance between the two in Staffs. is about 25 miles at the most. If you still have the page, maybe I could add many of these sayings appearing on the Black Country list. No doubt they originated from folks who left the Staffordshire industrial districts and brought their trades and way of talk to the US. Gord ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy, Re: David Pass The following request to join the Pace project was entered at Family Tree DNA by David Pass bluehorseenterprises@hotmail.com. Earliest known ancestor Nathaniel Pass of NC/VA. I sent David Pass this: Interesting, in Birmingham England, where I was born 1940, the name PASS was rather popular and nearby to the north in places like Stoke-on-Trent, Burslem, Tunstall, Burton-on-Trent (the pottery district) in south Staffordshire. Leonard William Pace, Methodist preacher of Wolverhampton and Pace family researcher is married to a PASS lady. It will be interesting to see your DNA test results. Gord Pace There was a PASS mailing list run by a man in the southern US that Debby Bayman nee Pass was on. Her ancestors were from Wolverhampton and Derbeyshire UK which is near these pottery area towns where the accents were very pronounced. I am on the Black Country list and presently there's much talk about Black Country sayings. My family had these sayings. My grandmother was a rather pious lady but when she got angry with us, a vehement stream of these appelations chased us into submission, we would all have a good laugh at them, trying to remember them, and she would resort back into her pious composure. You had a web page about sayings from the Ozarks etc. that seemed to be similar, if not the exact same. Do you still have this web page on the sayings? Probably the sayings from the pottery district of central Staffordshire are the same as those from the Black Country in south Staffordshire. The distance between the two in Staffs. is about 25 miles at the most. If you still have the page, maybe I could add many of these sayings appearing on the Black Country list. No doubt they originated from folks who left the Staffordshire industrial districts and brought their trades and way of talk to the US. Gord

I just received the first request to join the DNA study from a person of Pass surname. It will be interesting to see if we get a match. Roy Johnson

A. book written by Robert H. Crewdson.mentions a Ben Pace. The book is entitled" Love and War" and is basically a collection of letters written by Merit Branch Thurman to his Future wife, Jane Rosser Humphrey, who lived at Union Mills in Fluvanna County,Va during the Civil War. One letter mentions that he was visited in camp By a Ben Pace, Jim Harlow and Walker Tyler. I would think the letter was written in 1862. Would anyone know who this Ben Pace was? This is a great book if anyone is interested in the war and Virginia Soldiers.

Hi Tamara, Was just reading your email and it caught my attention when you said your GG Grandmother, Martha Pace 1863 Marion, AL....etc. My Pace family was William Pace born bef 1820 in GA, died before 1866 in Civil War of disease.  his wife was Mary Ann Pollard, born 1820 in GA and died 1891 in Texas.  They lived in Marion Co., AL (Hamilton area) and had children....Julia b. 1843, Andrew b. 1846,James b. 1849, Sarah b 1851, Mary Jane b 1852 , John Pace b 1853, Martha b. 1853 and Allise b. 1859.    Are you related to any of this group of Paces? Barbara Bailey   I am glad to meet you Mr. Pace, I have no idea why I would be looking for you. My 2nd Great Grandmother was Martha Susan Pace 1863 Marion, AL - 1928 Tishomingo, MS. Just today I took over 150 gravestone photos to put in my file at Ancestry.com, Martha and her parents Richmond Pace and Lucretia "Beadie" Jeffries were among them. I do search the Pace line, as well as my Woodruff, Rushing, Sparks, Allen and etc. etc. Maybe you were a child I was adding and was searching for more information. I am sorry if this in any way has upset you. I have been digging for bones for over 40 of my 57 years, blame it on my grandmother, she drug me to the graves every year for cleaning, I was board and began to gather information on whom belonged to whom. Grandma is 93 now and couldn't come to Booneville, MS with me this time. I can't say I'll ever stop, even now I'm dragging 2 of my children who have worked side by side with me taking pictures and talking about the loved ones who are gone but not forgotten. I have 2 Oscar Pace in my file but neither were born in 1942, one is Oscar H. Pace son of George West Pace Sr. and Tabitha J. Rogers and the other is another Oscar H. Pace b. Nov 1884 SC son of John Balus Pace and Alice Staton. Tamara Maddan -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jose pace Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:42 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com; pace-bounces@rootsweb.com; vtice12@comcast.net; darlene@adweb.net Subject: [PACE] I am Oscar Leon Pace I dont know who or why you are looking for Oscar Leon Pace, but I want to tell you that I am opscar pace leon born in 1942. I hope to get reply from you so I understand a little your search. thanks                         _________________________________________________________________ ¿Querés encontrar tus emails más rápido? Organizalos por carpetas y así es más fácil. Ver más http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/hotmail/organizacion.asp ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________ From: Tamara Maddan <tamaram1@cox.net> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 9:12:23 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] I am Oscar Leon Pace

I am glad to meet you Mr. Pace, I have no idea why I would be looking for you. My 2nd Great Grandmother was Martha Susan Pace 1863 Marion, AL - 1928 Tishomingo, MS. Just today I took over 150 gravestone photos to put in my file at Ancestry.com, Martha and her parents Richmond Pace and Lucretia "Beadie" Jeffries were among them. I do search the Pace line, as well as my Woodruff, Rushing, Sparks, Allen and etc. etc. Maybe you were a child I was adding and was searching for more information. I am sorry if this in any way has upset you. I have been digging for bones for over 40 of my 57 years, blame it on my grandmother, she drug me to the graves every year for cleaning, I was board and began to gather information on whom belonged to whom. Grandma is 93 now and couldn't come to Booneville, MS with me this time. I can't say I'll ever stop, even now I'm dragging 2 of my children who have worked side by side with me taking pictures and talking about the loved ones who are gone but not forgotten. I have 2 Oscar Pace in my file but neither were born in 1942, one is Oscar H. Pace son of George West Pace Sr. and Tabitha J. Rogers and the other is another Oscar H. Pace b. Nov 1884 SC son of John Balus Pace and Alice Staton. Tamara Maddan -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jose pace Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:42 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com; pace-bounces@rootsweb.com; vtice12@comcast.net; darlene@adweb.net Subject: [PACE] I am Oscar Leon Pace I dont know who or why you are looking for Oscar Leon Pace, but I want to tell you that I am opscar pace leon born in 1942. I hope to get reply from you so I understand a little your search. thanks _________________________________________________________________ ¿Querés encontrar tus emails más rápido? Organizalos por carpetas y así es más fácil. Ver más http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/hotmail/organizacion.asp ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laura Pace Omer (now Miller) and Skip will rent a vehicle. Thanks! --- On Thu, 4/29/10, gtp3066@nexicom.net <gtp3066@nexicom.net> wrote: > From: gtp3066@nexicom.net <gtp3066@nexicom.net> > Subject: [PACE] Bozeman Reunion > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 10:31 PM > FLYING to BOZEMAN > > Naomi Johnson, Reunion Host > One thing I hope to get across to those coming here is, > > The Inn does not have a shuttle, > if they are flying in and aren't going to rent a car and > need a lift to > the Inn from Belgrade, where the airport is, let me know so > we can get > transportation for them. My phone number is (406) > 522-7869. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, but the Nixons and the Stricklands will have our own transportation! Miriam Nixon -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gtp3066@nexicom.net Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:32 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE] Bozeman Reunion FLYING to BOZEMAN Naomi Johnson, Reunion Host One thing I hope to get across to those coming here is, The Inn does not have a shuttle, if they are flying in and aren't going to rent a car and need a lift to the Inn from Belgrade, where the airport is, let me know so we can get transportation for them. My phone number is (406) 522-7869. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2838 - Release Date: 04/30/10 11:34:00

FLYING to BOZEMAN Naomi Johnson, Reunion Host One thing I hope to get across to those coming here is, The Inn does not have a shuttle, if they are flying in and aren't going to rent a car and need a lift to the Inn from Belgrade, where the airport is, let me know so we can get transportation for them. My phone number is (406) 522-7869.

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M.A. Thanks! I was guessing that it was the J.M. Pace Biography, but it would be nice to find out who the submitter was to make sure. Kim On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:20 PM, MAC wrote: > I have this notation in my database for these girls: from J.M. Pace Biography > in MEMORIAL & BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY of DALLAS, 1892, (in) Pace Society (Internet) > Database. > > M.A. Causey > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have this notation in my database for these girls: from J.M. Pace Biography in MEMORIAL & BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY of DALLAS, 1892, (in) Pace Society (Internet) Database. M.A. Causey

FYI - I do not know if this has been on the list before. I do know that I have seen Pace spelled like this in other documents, so I noted it just in case. Words in brackets are my comments. The image is available on Ancestry.com. For those who do not have a subscription to Ancestry.com, Google Books also has a copy of the book. I also did a quick search for the ship "Thomas Henry Taverner" It also showed up as the name of a ship, nearly 40 years, later traveling from Barbados to America. Source: Passengers of America, A Consolidation of Ship Passenger lists from the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, edited by Michel Tepper, Published by Genealogical Publishing Inc., Baltimore, MD 1980. Source of source: Passengers for Virginia 1635, by H.G. Somerby, from Vols. II-V (1848-1851) and XV (1861) Pages 104 - 106 "21 Aug 1635" (page 104) "Theis [These] under-written names are to be transported to Virginia imbarqued [embarked] in the Thomas Henry Taverner Mr [Master] having been examined by the Minister of Gravesend touching their conformitie [conformity] in or Religion etc." (page 105) "Wm Peas 19" (page 106) Kim Stracener Zapalac

Just following up. Does anyone know the source for these names as daughters of Frederick & Elizabeth Pace? I would like to document it in my database as well as double-check the source. I wasn't able to locate the submitter on the FamilySearch.org website. Thanks, Kim Stracener Zapalac

It was me that was looking for you but now that I think about......remember that $10 I loan you back in 1963......I sure could us it. Welcome to the family -----Original Message----- From: jose pace <josepace@hotmail.com> To: pace@rootsweb.com; pace-bounces@rootsweb.com; vtice12@comcast.net; darlene@adweb.net Sent: Wed, Apr 21, 2010 11:42 am Subject: [PACE] I am Oscar Leon Pace dont know who or why you are looking for Oscar Leon Pace, but I want to tell ou that I am opscar pace leon born in 1942. I hope to get reply from you so I understand a little your search. thanks ________________________________________________________________ Querés encontrar tus emails más rápido? Organizalos por carpetas y así es más ácil. Ver más ttp://www.descubrewindowslive.com/hotmail/organizacion.asp ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

FYI, They just added the County of Culpepper (1829-1929) to this website list. http://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/default.asp#res The only Paces mentioned were M.B. Pace versus Willie Pace circa 1900 with 18 pages of digitized documents. Kim Stracener Zapalac

A document lists John R Pace in the lineage below as being born in KY but other records say VA. Easy to explain. He was born in 1791. Kentucky split from Virginia in June 1792. So he ws technically born in VA but might say he was born in KY since he probably grew up in KY. Here is the listing from the Donors page. Maybe someone can help track him back to John of M, as the DNA shows definitely that this is his lineage. Kit 175440 0 Donor 1 Clyde W. Pace, Jr (the W. stands for Wilson) B- 9 Nov 1917 in Jefferson City, MO D- 4 JUN 2008 in St. Michaels, MD 2 Clyde William Pace B- 8 AUG 1894 in Knob Noster, MO D- July 1951 in St. Louis, MO, buried in McGirk, MO 3 William Frank Pace B- 11 JAN 1866 in Cole County, MO D- 19 MAR 1951, buried in McGirk, MO 4 Joseph Griffin Pace B- 1832 in IL D- 5 JUL 1917 in Centertown, Cole County, MO + Henrietta Douglas (Riggs) Pace? 5 John R. Pace B- 4/8/1791 in VA (KY (as per Joseph Griffin Pace death certif. Kentucky split off from VA on June 1, 1792, explaining the discrepancy-he was probably born in the part of VA that became KY) D- 7/7/1868 in Cole County, MO --spouse Emily Taylor b. KY as per Joseph Griffin Pace death certif.. Roy Johnson

New test results are just in for kit 175440 of the Cole County, MO, Paces. 12/12 match with the John of Middlesex group. Now we need to poke around in the John of M area, probably Fluvanna/Goochland records, for his earliest known ancestor, John R. Pace B- 4/8/1791 in VA D- 7/7/1868 in Cole County, MO Anyone know anything about this John R Pace? Roy Johnson

I dont know who or why you are looking for Oscar Leon Pace, but I want to tell you that I am opscar pace leon born in 1942. I hope to get reply from you so I understand a little your search. thanks _________________________________________________________________ ¿Querés encontrar tus emails más rápido? Organizalos por carpetas y así es más fácil. Ver más http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/hotmail/organizacion.asp