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    1. [Fwd: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary]
    2. Please notice the address of the sender on the PACE Rootsweb board below. Since this person is interested and may be in a position to add some valuable information through his studies and position, being a graduate student, May I suggest to answer his posting on the PACE Rootsweb board. I've already replied, encouraging him to join this list. GTP -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:10:39 -0600 Resent-From: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:17:42 -0400 From: gordpace@eagle.ca To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com The following message is on the PACE-Rootsweb bulletin board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=Surnames.Pace&m=1693 My name is Brian Heinsman and I am a graduate student in historical archaeology at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. For my masters thesis I am researching the 17th century occupation of Maycock's Point in Prince George County, which was excavated by a professor in this department from 1970-71. Based upon the artifact analysis to date, the structure in our collection appears to be that occupied by George Pace and Sarah Maycock from the 1630s-1660s/70s. As some of you may know the documentary records from this period of colonial history are fragmentary at best. While I will be continuing my search for family records on this site and others like it in the near future, any assistance you may be able to provide about the Samuel Maycock/George Pace families during the seventeenth century will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the assistance.

    08/14/2005 09:09:39
    1. Copyright, Bruce Howard's book etc.
    2. Ellen
    3. Copyright means you do need the author's permission. Is Bruce Howard's book still available to order? If so, perhaps the college would buy a copy for its library. Ellen

    08/14/2005 05:45:12
    1. Re: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary
    2. Darren
    3. The copyright in Howard's book states: "Copyright reserved by the author on all material contained in this book, except those parts which are excerpts of, or transcripts of official records. It shall be unlawful for anyone to use or copy any copyrightable material, contained in this book, electronically or by any other means whatsoever without the written permission of the author." So, I read that all the official records, source documents are free to use without permission. It's his original wording, thoughts, and ideas that are protected by copyright. Also, if I understand the copyright for books, if your only intention is to quote the author properly (giving proper credit, footnotes, etc..) then you're not infringing any copyright laws. The key here is to stop someone from plagiarizing your work and calling it their own. I may be out to lunch, but that's the way I always understood it. In this case however, I agree, it would be very easy to email Bruce and get his permission. Darren Pace Marian Dunlap wrote: > When a book is copyrighted I think it doesn't need that author's > permission to use information from it as long as that author and the > title of the book are listed as the source of the information. > Marian. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:50 PM > Subject: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary > > >> Now we need Ruth Keyes Clark >> Is someone up to this? We could volunteer the material in Bruce >> Howard's >> book, with his permission of course. >> Betty Pace >> From: gordpace@eagle.ca >> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:17:42 -0400 >> Subject: College of William & Mary >> The following message is on the PACE-Rootsweb bulletin board >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=Surnames.Pace&m=1693 >> >> >> My name is Brian Heinsman and I am a graduate student in historical >> archaeology at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. >> For my masters thesis I am researching the 17th century occupation of >> Maycock's Point in Prince George County, which was excavated by a >> professor in this department from 1970-71. Based upon the artifact >> analysis to date, the structure in our collection appears to be that >> occupied by George Pace and Sarah Maycock from the 1630s-1660s/70s. As >> some of you may know the documentary records from this period of >> colonial history are fragmentary at best. While I will be continuing my >> search for family records on this site and others like it in the near >> future, any assistance you may be able to provide about the Samuel >> Maycock/George Pace families during the seventeenth century will be >> greatly appreciated. Thanks for the assistance. >> >> >> ==== PACE Mailing List ==== >> To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail >> list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply >> personally, reply to sender. >> > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace > Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com > > > >

    08/14/2005 04:47:09
    1. Re: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary
    2. Marian Dunlap
    3. When a book is copyrighted I think it doesn't need that author's permission to use information from it as long as that author and the title of the book are listed as the source of the information. Marian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: [PACE-L] College of William & Mary > Now we need Ruth Keyes Clark > Is someone up to this? We could volunteer the material in Bruce Howard's > book, with his permission of course. > Betty Pace > From: gordpace@eagle.ca > To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:17:42 -0400 > Subject: College of William & Mary > The following message is on the PACE-Rootsweb bulletin board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=Surnames.Pace&m=1693 > > My name is Brian Heinsman and I am a graduate student in historical > archaeology at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. > For my masters thesis I am researching the 17th century occupation of > Maycock's Point in Prince George County, which was excavated by a > professor in this department from 1970-71. Based upon the artifact > analysis to date, the structure in our collection appears to be that > occupied by George Pace and Sarah Maycock from the 1630s-1660s/70s. As > some of you may know the documentary records from this period of > colonial history are fragmentary at best. While I will be continuing my > search for family records on this site and others like it in the near > future, any assistance you may be able to provide about the Samuel > Maycock/George Pace families during the seventeenth century will be > greatly appreciated. Thanks for the assistance. > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list > (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, > reply to sender. >

    08/13/2005 10:08:12
    1. College of William & Mary
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. Now we need Ruth Keyes Clark Is someone up to this? We could volunteer the material in Bruce Howard's book, with his permission of course. Betty Pace From: gordpace@eagle.ca To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:17:42 -0400 Subject: College of William & Mary The following message is on the PACE-Rootsweb bulletin board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=Surnames.Pace&m=1693 My name is Brian Heinsman and I am a graduate student in historical archaeology at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. For my masters thesis I am researching the 17th century occupation of Maycock's Point in Prince George County, which was excavated by a professor in this department from 1970-71. Based upon the artifact analysis to date, the structure in our collection appears to be that occupied by George Pace and Sarah Maycock from the 1630s-1660s/70s. As some of you may know the documentary records from this period of colonial history are fragmentary at best. While I will be continuing my search for family records on this site and others like it in the near future, any assistance you may be able to provide about the Samuel Maycock/George Pace families during the seventeenth century will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the assistance.

    08/13/2005 09:50:53
    1. College of William & Mary
    2. The following message is on the PACE-Rootsweb bulletin board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=Surnames.Pace&m=1693 My name is Brian Heinsman and I am a graduate student in historical archaeology at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. For my masters thesis I am researching the 17th century occupation of Maycock's Point in Prince George County, which was excavated by a professor in this department from 1970-71. Based upon the artifact analysis to date, the structure in our collection appears to be that occupied by George Pace and Sarah Maycock from the 1630s-1660s/70s. As some of you may know the documentary records from this period of colonial history are fragmentary at best. While I will be continuing my search for family records on this site and others like it in the near future, any assistance you may be able to provide about the Samuel Maycock/George Pace families during the seventeenth century will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the assistance.

    08/12/2005 07:17:42
    1. Hardin Pace Rev War Captain
    2. darlene
    3. Charles PEARSON R8244, Tenn. #21324 rejected 3 June 1830 and Charles PIERSON S3695 West Tenn. #13724 $60.00/year issued 6 June 1833 Note: These are two separate files, but relate to the same man. This apparently is an error in the pension office. 28 Feb. 1827Charles PEARSON (also PIERSON) states he is 70 years of age. He enlisted at Northhampton Court House, North Carolina in 1776 under Capt. Hardin PACE (?) and Col. Edwin EDMISTON(?) in the Continental Line.

    08/10/2005 06:35:02
    1. we sure need Nelp with this James Jim Pace maybe in Boone Co Mo
    2. darlene
    3. Hi all Hope you have some knowledge as Carol so need help.. she is trying to find Death Cert but so far no Luck TX Vital Records have no records she is trying to go to County Clerks now but what we aren't sure of exactly where they died... I am helping Carol who is looking for a James S Pace b- abt 1857 MO she thought it was my James Pace but he died in 1893 so could not be mine so helping her This is the Story per Buckner Orphanage in Dallas Texas but we are not sure how correct info is.. and we are trying to Doc James Jim Pace b- 1857 Mo d-1911 Tx had two marriage first to D Tullos we think 2nd to Mary b-1866 d- 1913 and Jim Pace & Mary had 6 Children all went to Buckner Orphanage in Dallas Texas after parents death ....I found all children were on the 1920 Census in Buckner Orphanage in Dallas TX but one Addie The only record I can find on him.. is the 1910 Montgomery Co Tx shows age 53 abv date of Brith and he shows born in Misssouri Parents both born in Kansas and lists all children I can't find him on the 1900 Cen in Tx yet one of the children born in Tx 1895 one child born in 1898 TX and Helen born 1900 Montgomery Co TX per Buckner Records So I went to 1880 census and could not find a James right age in Mo but then went to 1870 and found Boone Co MoHH 215 a James Pace age 13 but he is Top on fpage of Census with looks like Perkins Pace age 8 and Martha Pace but in prev page shows a John & Mary Pace in HH 213 of Kenworthy so could assume they are his parents Does anyone know of this family or the Boone Co Mo Pace's Thanks as Carol sure needs our help Darlene Pace

    08/09/2005 06:22:28
    1. DNA Lineage Chart
    2. val & jeff tice
    3. For those on this list that are members of the Pace Society of America, John Pace has created a great new DNA chart based on the findings of the first 40 Bulletins of the Pace Society. John's chart and his explanation are in the members only Pace Society of America Database under Bulletins as are the first 40 Bulletins. The lineages line up closely to the DNA testing, though there are still issues to be sorted out as John explains in detail. For those members who haven't accessed the Database yet, please contact Val Tice. Jane Shelton, President Pace Society of America Valerie Tice, Historian & Archivist Pace Society of America

    08/08/2005 11:06:32
    1. Re: [PACE-L] John_R_Pace_&_Battle_of_New_Orleans
    2. John Pace
    3. James, Do you know whether the middle inital "R" stood for Richmond or Richard or some other name? John Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pace" <jrpace62@yahoo.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: [PACE-L] John_R_Pace_&_Battle_of_New_Orleans > > > > > > A document of some importance was provided to me by a cousin, Nina > Williams. According to information in the form of photocopies of records > on file with the National Archives of the Federal Government, John R. Pace > filed for a land bounty for service in the War of 1812. His claim was > acted on in March 19, 1856. Claims # 33904 for 80 acres was issued to him > but never received. In 1856 he was apparently a resident of Panola County, > Texas. He then, evidently, returned to Tennessee. John R. Pace was a son > of William Pace, Sr. and Sisely Walker. > > > > Quoting from the government record, "He testified that he was the > "identical John Pace who was a Sergeant in the Company Commanded by > Captain John Weekly (sic) in the Twenty Third Regiment of Militia > Commanded by Colonel Cock (sic) in the war with Great Britain Declared by > the United States on the 18th Day of June 1812 and that he was Drafted at > Springfield Robertson County Tenn on or about the 12th day of November > 1814 for the term of six months and was honourably Discharged at Nashville > on the 13th day of May 1815 as will Appear (sic)." > > > > Here is some information regarding the Unit John Pace 'enlisted' into. It > shows that he participated in the historic Battle of New Orleans in 1815, > and that the term of enlistment roughly corresponds to the dates of the > formation and dissolution of the 2nd Regiment of the Tennessee Militia. > > > > > > > > Ref: "Tennessee State Library and Archives&#8209; Historical and > Genealogical Information," at > http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/1812reg.htm > > > > Tennessee State Library and Archives > > Historical and Genealogical Information > > > > &#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209; > > > > REGIMENTAL HISTORIES OF TENNESSEE UNITS DURING THE WAR OF 1812 > > > > &#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209; > > > > Prepared by Tom Kanon, Tennessee State Library and Archives > > > > COLONEL JOHN COCKE > > 1. > > DESIGNATION: 2nd Regiment of West Tennessee Militia > > DATES: November 1814 &#8209; May 1815 > > MEN MOSTLY FROM: Montgomery, Williamson, Dickson, Hickman, Robertson, > Rutherford, and Stewart Counties > > CAPTAINS: George Barnes, Samuel Carothers, Richard Crunk, John Dalton, > Francis Ellis, James Gault, James Gray, Bird Nance, Joseph Price, John > Weakley > > > > BRIEF HISTORY: > > This regiment was one of three West Tennessee militia units at New Orleans > under the command of Major General William Carroll. They were part of the > flotilla that went down to New Orleans via the Cumberland, Ohio, and > Mississippi Rivers. The Nashville Clarion of 21 February 1815 mentions > that Captain John Weakly, of Montgomery County, was at the breastworks of > Jackson's line at New Orleans during the battle of 8 January. Muster rolls > of the regiment show no battle casualties, but do reveal many deaths due > to sickness &#8209;&#8209; a common occurrence for troops stationed at New > Orleans in the months of February/March 1815. > > Colonel Cocke was sheriff of Montgomery County at the time of war. He is > not to be confused with Major General John Cocke of East Tennessee who > commanded the 1st Division and was counterpart to Andrew Jackson > &#8209;&#8209; Jackson commanding the 2nd Division. > > > > > > ************************************* > > > > I have suggested to members of my family that the following song be made > our family song. Certainly, the 'little trip' down the Mississippi River > Horton refers to in his version of the song was not little, but > monumental. Remember, they traveled from Nashville to New Orleans in the > dead of winter. I must say the business of "a little trip down the Mighty > Mississip" is certainly an understatement. It seems to me to have been a > first class military maneuver based on some solid intelligence. > > > > Ref: http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/1959/21959a.html > > > > The Battle of New Orleans > > Johnny Horton > > > > &#8209;Music and lyrics by Jimmy Driftwood > > > > In 1814 we took a little trip > > Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. > > We took a little bacon and we took a little beans > > And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans. > > > > CHORUS: > > We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin. > > There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago. > > We fired once more and they began to runnin' on > > Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. > > > > We looked down the river and we see'd the British come. > > And there must have been a hundred of'em beatin' on the drum. > > They stepped so high and they made the bugles ring. > > We stood by our cotton bales and didn't say a thing. > > > > > > CHORUS > > > > Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise > > If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye > > We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well. > > Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em ... well ~~~ > > > > CHORUS > > > > **Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles > > And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go. > > They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em > > Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.** > > > > We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down. > > So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round. > > We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind > > And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind. > > > > CHORUS > > > > Repeat ** > > Hup 2, 3, 4. Sound off 3, 4.... Hup 2, 3, 4. > > Sound off 3, 4.... Hup 2, 3, 4 > > > > Let me make a comment or two. The military intelligence demonstrated by > the act of forming military units, and in the dead of winter, making a > perilous journey up the Cumberland, down the Ohio and then the Mississippi > River, all to arrive a New Orleans in time to meet a British invasion, is > stunning in my mind. The fact that the American victory at New Orleans was > fairly one-sided, meaning little American causality makes the military > planning even more remarkable. > > Secondly, I must ask why he waited so long to make a claim. I have > previously suggested that he may have remarried, and thus it was his > second wife who provided the impetus to file a claim. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Check out the new Pace Society of America web page at: > www.pacesociety.org, and please join the Pace Society of America for only > $25.00 per year. > >

    08/04/2005 06:21:25
    1. John_R_Pace_&_Battle_of_New_Orleans
    2. James Pace
    3. A document of some importance was provided to me by a cousin, Nina Williams. According to information in the form of photocopies of records on file with the National Archives of the Federal Government, John R. Pace filed for a land bounty for service in the War of 1812. His claim was acted on in March 19, 1856. Claims # 33904 for 80 acres was issued to him but never received. In 1856 he was apparently a resident of Panola County, Texas. He then, evidently, returned to Tennessee. John R. Pace was a son of William Pace, Sr. and Sisely Walker. Quoting from the government record, “He testified that he was the “identical John Pace who was a Sergeant in the Company Commanded by Captain John Weekly (sic) in the Twenty Third Regiment of Militia Commanded by Colonel Cock (sic) in the war with Great Britain Declared by the United States on the 18th Day of June 1812 and that he was Drafted at Springfield Robertson County Tenn on or about the 12th day of November 1814 for the term of six months and was honourably Discharged at Nashville on the 13th day of May 1815 as will Appear (sic).” Here is some information regarding the Unit John Pace ‘enlisted' into. It shows that he participated in the historic Battle of New Orleans in 1815, and that the term of enlistment roughly corresponds to the dates of the formation and dissolution of the 2nd Regiment of the Tennessee Militia. Ref: "Tennessee State Library and Archives&#8209; Historical and Genealogical Information," at http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/1812reg.htm Tennessee State Library and Archives Historical and Genealogical Information &#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209; REGIMENTAL HISTORIES OF TENNESSEE UNITS DURING THE WAR OF 1812 &#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209;&#8209; Prepared by Tom Kanon, Tennessee State Library and Archives COLONEL JOHN COCKE 1. DESIGNATION: 2nd Regiment of West Tennessee Militia DATES: November 1814 &#8209; May 1815 MEN MOSTLY FROM: Montgomery, Williamson, Dickson, Hickman, Robertson, Rutherford, and Stewart Counties CAPTAINS: George Barnes, Samuel Carothers, Richard Crunk, John Dalton, Francis Ellis, James Gault, James Gray, Bird Nance, Joseph Price, John Weakley BRIEF HISTORY: This regiment was one of three West Tennessee militia units at New Orleans under the command of Major General William Carroll. They were part of the flotilla that went down to New Orleans via the Cumberland, Ohio, and Mississippi Rivers. The Nashville Clarion of 21 February 1815 mentions that Captain John Weakly, of Montgomery County, was at the breastworks of Jackson's line at New Orleans during the battle of 8 January. Muster rolls of the regiment show no battle casualties, but do reveal many deaths due to sickness &#8209;&#8209; a common occurrence for troops stationed at New Orleans in the months of February/March 1815. Colonel Cocke was sheriff of Montgomery County at the time of war. He is not to be confused with Major General John Cocke of East Tennessee who commanded the 1st Division and was counterpart to Andrew Jackson &#8209;&#8209; Jackson commanding the 2nd Division. ************************************* I have suggested to members of my family that the following song be made our family song. Certainly, the ‘little trip' down the Mississippi River Horton refers to in his version of the song was not little, but monumental. Remember, they traveled from Nashville to New Orleans in the dead of winter. I must say the business of "a little trip down the Mighty Mississip" is certainly an understatement. It seems to me to have been a first class military maneuver based on some solid intelligence. Ref: http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/1959/21959a.html The Battle of New Orleans Johnny Horton &#8209;Music and lyrics by Jimmy Driftwood In 1814 we took a little trip Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans. CHORUS: We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin. There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago. We fired once more and they began to runnin' on Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. We looked down the river and we see'd the British come. And there must have been a hundred of'em beatin' on the drum. They stepped so high and they made the bugles ring. We stood by our cotton bales and didn't say a thing. CHORUS Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eye We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well. Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em ... well ~~~ CHORUS **Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go. They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.** We fired our cannon 'til the barrel melted down. So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round. We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind. CHORUS Repeat ** Hup 2, 3, 4. Sound off 3, 4.... Hup 2, 3, 4. Sound off 3, 4.... Hup 2, 3, 4 Let me make a comment or two. The military intelligence demonstrated by the act of forming military units, and in the dead of winter, making a perilous journey up the Cumberland, down the Ohio and then the Mississippi River, all to arrive a New Orleans in time to meet a British invasion, is stunning in my mind. The fact that the American victory at New Orleans was fairly one-sided, meaning little American causality makes the military planning even more remarkable. Secondly, I must ask why he waited so long to make a claim. I have previously suggested that he may have remarried, and thus it was his second wife who provided the impetus to file a claim. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    08/04/2005 03:38:09
    1. : CastleGarden-- port of entry to U.S.
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. Anyone searching for Ancestors that emigrated to America may find this site useful. http://www.castlegarden.org/ "CastleGarden.org offers free access to an extraordinary database of information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892, the year Ellis Island opened. Over 73 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early immigration period." I found several of my people by searching for the surname in a time range. Betty Pace

    08/03/2005 03:22:22
    1. Paces at Oakwood Cemetery in Raleigh NC
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. Date is date of death > PACE, ADDIE (INFANT) 02/16/1932 FAMILY WEST BRANCH > F 10 > PACE, ANNA G 12/23/1940 MART-YELV LINDEN LAWN R 1 > PACE, EDWARD R 04/24/1920 EAST BRANCH 59 > PACE, ELIZABETH SKINNER (LILLY) 11/06/1974 BW > MAGNOLIA HILL 43 > PACE, GRAHAM 01/10/1928 WEST BRANCH F 10 > PACE, HENRY VADEN 12/01/1907 BATTLE F 4 > PACE, ISABEL 00/00/1902 EAST BRANCH 59 > PACE, JAMES T 06/03/1920 EAST BRANCH 59 > PACE, JESSIE KING 11/03/1943 MAR-YELV WEST BRANCH > F 10 > PACE, JONATHAN MCGEE 10/08/1881 MAGNOLIA HILL > 43 > PACE, JONES T 06/03/1920 EAST BRANCH 59 > PACE, LUDIE P 06/01/1947 MIT EAST BRANCH 59 > PACE, MARY JEANETTE 07/16/1925 HJ BROWN SINGLE > GRAVE 67 > PACE, MARY LOUISE HECK 08/31/1940 BROWN MAGNOLIA > HILL 43 > PACE, POWELL G 01/10/1928 MIT WEST BRANCH F 10 > PACE, SALLIE WEBB 05/02/1917 BATTLE F 4 > PACE, W H 04/27/1883 > PACE, WILLIAM HARTWELL 04/27/1893 MAGNOLIA HILL > 43 > PACE, WILLIAM HECK 01/04/1940 BROWN MAGNOLIA HILL > 43 > PACE, WILLIAM HECK JR 11/04/1970 BW MAGNOLIA HILL > 43 Go to: http://www.historicoakwoodcemetery.org/burial_list.asp __________________________________________________

    08/02/2005 11:19:11
    1. Can anyone help this person?
    2. If you can, besides posting to the list, please e mail them directly at _Bpruitt863@aol.com_ (mailto:Bpruitt863@aol.com) Julie I know little about John H. Pace other than the fact that he was born in Texas and married my great-aunt, Mary Etta Tabor. They were married July 24, 1890 in Jack County, Texas. In 1910, they lived in Roger Mills County, Okla., with their two children, William, 18, and Dessie, 8. In 1930, they lived in Payne County, Okla. I somehow missed them in the 1920 census and need to do more research. John H. Pace was a farm laborer who was born about 1870. Thanks for any help you might be able to provide.

    07/27/2005 12:26:00
    1. Bird Hensley son of Elva Pace
    2. John Pace
    3. Bird Hensley Jr. was born July 9, 1921 in Harlan Co, KY to Bird Hensley Sr and Elva Pace. Elva was a daughter of Simeon Pace and descended through Jesse Pace. Staff Sergeant Bird Hensley died on October 31, 1950 in Korea. He was taken a Prisoner of War while engaged with the enemy in Korea on July 10, 1950, forced to march to North Korea on the "Tiger Death March", and died while a prisoner during the march near Manpo, North Korea on Oct. 31, 1050. His remains were not recovered. For his leadership and valor, he was awarded the Bronz Star with Oak Leaf Cluster, the Prisoner of War Medal, the Korean Service Medal, the United Nations Service Medal, the National Defense Service Medal, the Korean Presidential Unit Citation and the Republic of Korea War Service Medal. In a correspondence with Jack Goodwin of Waco TX, a fellow P.O.W. on the same death march which totaled 800 men, I was told that 65% of our prisoners died from starvation. If anyone on the list has a picture of Bird, please forward me a copy so I can send it to Mr. Goodwin to be included in his book. Thank you. John Pace

    07/26/2005 09:38:11
    1. Pace Eggs - an Easter tradition
    2. The following email written by an American in Wisconsin is from ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com and well explains the traditional PACE EGG story my aunts and grandmother used to tell me, when I was young. GPace Ontario Can The April edition of the English magazine, "The Countryman" was delivered earlier this week and in an article "The evolution of the humble Easter Egg" by Christine Bloxham she explains. In her final paragraph, and I quote, "The introduction of chocolate Easter eggs and decrease in Church going has led to a decline in decoration of Easter eggs." The modern chocolate eggs are a invention, most probably by Mr. Cadbury, but based on the age old tradition of decorating eggs by various means ranging from the elaborate from Eastern Europe to the simply colouring of eggs. The North of England had their "Pace (or paschal) Eggs" with a saying counting down the days to Pace-egg day " Tid, mid, miseray. Carlin, Palm and Pace egg day." Pace eggs were "eggs stained with various colours in boiling and sometimes covered with gold leaf". Eggs were rolled down a hill and after they were found they were "jarped" together which was a game similar to conkers but the egg held in the hand. After this game the eggs were eaten. Pace eggs could also be decorated with scraps of coloured fabric. In Slovenia and Romania red eggs were known as love apples. Eggs were sent by girls, on Good Friday for a blessing by the Priest, dyed red on Saturday and given to the fancied boy on Easter Sunday with the belief the love would be fulfilled. In medieval days, the days of Lent and the abstaining from certain foods meant that for six weeks eggs were not eaten, allowing a breeding period for the poultry. At Easter, at the end of Lent, eggs could once again be eaten so the link with eggs and Easter was established. Eggs have been used to symbolize other events such as rolling of eggs being the stone rolling away from the tomb of Jesus. Of decorated eggs being given to women who wanted to begin a pregnancy. To egg rolling races being used to identify which young maiden would become the next to be married. Here in the mid-west of the US many churches hold colored egg searches where the children search for hidden eggs. We will be having our grandchildren over on Sunday and they too will search the house or the garden , depending on the weather, for the hidden colored eggs. Although we were brought up in the English chocolate egg tradition we find the search and find traditional activity far more to our liking and non-candy gifts better for the recipients. Many were the customs and many the countries in which eggs were usedin celebrations. The article in "The Countryman" by Christine Bloxham describes many others egg traditions, typical of the excellence of the magazine in which the present and past English countryside is featured. I have no connection with the magazine except by my subscription. John Favill, Wisconsin, USA

    07/25/2005 06:05:14
    1. Hillbilly's.... Book abt Stinking Crk, Knox Co Ky on line... think only a part of it.
    2. darlene
    3. I thought some where I had info that Pace's lived in Stinking Crk, but do you think I can find it?... It may have been that Jesse Pace who I don't believe is ours or that Robert Pace of Wake Co NC ... John Pace may have info as I know I sent him a lot at one time... mine maybe in my old Computer which I haven't extracted yet... But this is some good reading abt the Hillbilly's who were Mountaineers and how they lived in Stinking Crk Ky and its one mans interview ....and I believe its more abt the modern day Hillbilly....I did a fast read thru... I found it interesting as I have no knowledge of how My Ancestors lived and felt, it did give me a peek into possibly how some of my People may have lived... mine were farmer, but I do know one of the Pace's owned part of one of thoses Mines in Harlan Co Ky ...I am now going to Order it... as am told Pace's in it... Darlene Pace some EXCERPT Due to mining the coal in those Ky Mt. He is a colorful writer... The hillbilly is a mountaineer without mountains, and the gullies of erosion in his spirit and soul are as evident as are the gaping wounds in the hills around him. The visible parallel of simultaneous destruction of hill and human being is shattering.. A mountaineer when asked how his ancestors came to this place answered, "They walked."True, they walked. But as they walked they fought the Choctaw, the Shawnee, the wild animals, and each other. In a country where only the most savage could survive, the mountaineer survived. His historic enemies are dead and gone. The mountaineer was a savage man because his heritage was savagery. Of English, Scottish, and Irish descents, he came, not as a clean cut, wholesome, educated explorer, but as a man scarred by years of abuse. By 1800 there were hundreds of such settlers across the Kentucky mountains. Each family was an entity to itself; it provided its own vegetables and meat, treated its own wounds and ills, killed its own enemies, made its own corn whiskey. http://www.tcnet.net/ky/knox/Doc1.html

    07/24/2005 03:25:36
    1. M. P. & Amanda (Chambers) Pace Biography
    2. Charles Hartley
    3. Found an interesting bio at [http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamuscat/biographies/mppace.htm] that might interest someone. It's about M. P. Pace whose parents were M. P. and Nancy (Richards) Pace of Virginia.

    07/23/2005 10:54:58
    1. Pace Palmer Wright Groom
    2. The JOHN PACE Chr 1665 whose mother Margaret Palmer from Wellington and father JOSEPH PACE Chr 1618 Prees, Shropshire also had an uncle or cousin - JOHN PACE who also had Christenings at Wellington, Shropshire JOHN PACE Christening: 25 Jan 1675 WELLINGTON, Shropshire Father: JOHN PACE Mother: JONE - Batch Number: C037524 this JOHN married + ELIZABETH INGLETHORPE descendents of the above JOHN PACE emmigrated to Iowa in 1851 and 1871 to north/east Kansas http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/shifnal.htm#kansas When he was church warden 1709 at Sheriff Hales he spelled the name Pacey. It changed back to PACE after he passed on. MARY PACE Christening 12 Dec 1677 WROCKWARDINE, Shropshire Father: JOHN PACE Mother: JONE HANNAH PACE Christening: 7 Oct 1681 WELLINGTON, Shropshire Father Mother: JONE PACE - Batch Number: C037524 Gord Pace - Ontario Canada http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/

    07/23/2005 06:52:06
    1. Pace & Wright
    2. Looking for clues in Shropshire Eng. parish registers of the 1600's that might reveal more about JOHN PACE of Middlesex and possible associates who may have also emmigrated from England and showed up in colonial Virginia. MARY PACE b abt 1739 (d/o JOSEPH PACE & ANN BASFORD) married + JOHN WRIGHT Jr. Jan 14 1756 Goochland Co.VA born Bet. 1732 - 1736 John Wright's marriage to Mary Pace is recorded in THE DOUGLAS REGISTER for St. James Northam Parish, Goochland Co VA from a descendent JOHN WRIGHT Jr's father was JOHN WRIGHT grandfather FRANCIS WRIGHT FRANCIS WRIGHT - grandfather of John Wright Jr. would be approximate contemporary of John of Middlesex Chr 1665 JOHN PACE Chr: 1665 Wrockwardine (abt 1.5 mi.from Wellington) JOHN's mother was MARGARET PALMER Chr: 05 JUN 1631 Wellington who married JOSEPH PACE 1653 at High Ercall,Shropshire this shows in PR's of Wellington, Shropshire FRANCIS WRIGHT Christening: 08 FEB 1670 Wellington, Shropshire Father: BENJAMIN WRIGHT Mother: ANN Batch Number: C037524 RERUIN WRIGHT Male Christening: 01 SEP 1672 Wellington, Shropshire Father: BENJAMIN WRIGHT Mother: ANN WRIGHT Female Christening: About 23 AUG 1673 Wellington, Shropshire Father: BENIAMIN WRIGHT Mother: ANNA the BENJAMIN WRIGHT who had a son FRANCIS WRIGHT was also a son himself of a FRANCIS WRIGHT BENJAMIN WRIGHT Christening: 07 MAY 1634 Wellington, Shropshire Father: FRANCIS WRIGHT Mother: SARAH Batch Number: C037524 another Francis Wright FRANCIS WRIGHT Christening: 07 MAR 1640 Wellington, Shropshire Father: THOMAS WRIGHT Mother: MAUDLEN MARY WRIGHT Christening: 14 FEB 1679 Wellington, Shropshire Father: FRANCIS WRIGHT Mother: MARY MARGARET WRIGHT Christening: 31 JAN 1682 Wellington, Shropshire Father: FRANCIS WRIGHT Mother: MARY another one MARGARET WRIGHT Christening: 25 AUG 1685 Wellington, Shropshire Father: FRANCIS WRIGHT Mother: MARGARET Also been looking at PACE-GROOM of Shropshire, Virginia, Kentucky and came across this: MARY WRIGHT Spouse: THOMAS GROOM Marriage: 27 JAN 1803 Wellington I think John of Middlesex didn't emmigrate alone from England. Gord Pace - Ontario Canada http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm#pal

    07/23/2005 06:36:44