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    1. 21 pace buried in Blandford Cemetery -Petersburg,Va
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. spoke to the Cemetery office. Cemetery records were burned in 1843 She says there are 21 paces buried there. Might be tedious work to identify them. Several names and dates are: Louisa A Pace died 1886- plot owned by Wm.R. Bowden Infant j.F.Pace died May, 28, 1890 grave owned by S..E.Walker John P.Pace died June 1911 John P.Pace III died 1988 Bruce Howard refers to the Pace family Plot on Page 199 of his book. Can we identify these Paces and tie them to others in the area

    10/11/2005 03:52:11
    1. Paces buried in Blandford Cemetery in Petersburg,Va
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. In reading about James Pace and Ann Leigh Phillips in Bruce Howard's Book" Our Colonial Ancestors" I found several members of their family are burie in Blandford Cemetery in Petersburg,Va I also seem to remember that a member of of the John Hartwell Pace family is buried there. I went to the Blandford Cemetery and it seem that it is a beautiful Church and Cemetery with gift shop,stained glass windows, and tours. if anyone has visited or would like to , it sure would be nice to get the names and perhaps pictures of the stones of the Paces who are buried there. I think a possible Robinson-Pace turned up in Petersburg, in my research of the William Hullum Pace family. Has anyone been there or lives nearby.?

    10/11/2005 03:25:39
    1. Richard Pace of NC
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. Ruth Keys Clark stated that she had found at least two, maybe three, Richard Paces who could have been the one who moved to NC. This would mean that there were Paces in VA not of the Richard of Jamestown line. Does anyone have access to Ruth's records or know what her specific documentation was on this? Roy Johnson

    10/11/2005 02:34:58
    1. Re:Cuthbert Champion of Fluvanna, Va-1807-Jesse Pace inventory
    2. There is a connection among the Paces, Champions and Woodsons. Cuthbert Champion (b. c. 1755, Northumb. Co., VA - d. 1823, Fluv. Co., VA, mar. Elizabeth Williamson) had a son, John Champion (1785-1860), who mar. Rebecca Woodson, 1Dec 1804, Fluv. Co. John and Rebecca Champion had a daughter, Mary C. Champion who mar. James Pace (parents of my grandfather, Charles Moore Pace). Cuthbert Champion's father was Moses Champion, who mar. Frances Hudnall. Moses Champion's father was John Champion. I do not know how Cuthbert Champion was related to Jesse Pace, if at all, but one would think so. Kathy Best

    10/10/2005 12:42:49
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Joseph Farrar Pace b. Jul 1859 Mecklenburg Co.Va
    2. Gordon W. Pace
    3. Lois: I believe the Joseph F. Pace b. 1859 was a son of William A. Pace b. 1831 and Mariat A. Pace William was a son of James Pace and Ann Leigh Phillips of Mecklenburgh Co. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- From: Lois Long Carey <lcarey@bcpl.net> Sent: Oct 7, 2005 9:29 AM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE-L] Joseph Farrar Pace b. Jul 1859 Mecklenburg Co.Va Who were his parents, siblings, descendents? ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the new Pace Society of America web page at: www.pacesociety.org, and please join the Pace Society of America for only $25.00 per year. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

    10/10/2005 12:40:03
    1. : U. S. Census Headings
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. This is very useful for census headings for each year. U. S. Census Headings http://www.skpub.com/genie/headings/ U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS HEADINGS 1790 1800 1810 1820 1830 1840 1850 1860 1870 1880 1900 1910 1920 1930

    10/10/2005 11:01:21
    1. Monsignor Edward Aloysius Pace (1861-1938), notable Pace
    2. Joyce
    3. Monsignor Edward Aloysius Pace b. 1861 was raised a Methodist but became a noted Catholic cleric and author. The following website contains his extensive biography and additional information about the "Edward Aloysius Pace Collection" housed at The Catholic University of America in Washington, DC: http://libraries.cua.edu/achrcua/pace.html Msgr. Pace's father was George Edward Pace b. Jan 1831 (either GA or FL--censuses vary). His mother was Margaret Kelly of Nova Scotia. Dr. Pace (D.D., PhD.) and his father appear in several Florida censuses. Two censuses state the father George Edward Pace was born in Georgia. The 1840 census, Florida Territory, Nassau County, lists one George Pace b 1801-1810 who may be the father of George Edward Pace and grandfather of Msgr. Pace. These people lived in the extreme northeast corner of Florida (Nassau, New River, Duval, Bradford counties) near the Georgia border. Which line of Paces did this group come from? Who was Edward Aloysius' paternal grandfather? A guesstimate is Tryon Pace's son George L. Pace of Effingham Co., GA b. 1809-1810 who m. Johannah S. Gnann--only because he named a son George Lewis Pace and George Edward Pace named a son George L. Pace. However, I show that George and Johanna were married in Oct 1833 (per Effingham GA Cemteries book) and the 1900 census reports George Edward Pace's birth as January 1831, so, something's slightly out of sync. However, I still sense it's from this line. Effingham Co. GA was just up the coast from Nassau & Duval Co., FL. There are a couple of other census pointers as well. Can anyone define with certainty the ancestry of Monsignor Pace? He's been a transient obsession off and on for several years and I haven't seen anyone mention this rather interesting person. - Joyce Harris

    10/08/2005 06:25:16
    1. Edward Pace, Elizabeth City Co., VA, 1665
    2. Joyce
    3. There is a 9 Oct 1665 reference in Virginia records (Land Office Patents No. 5, 1661-1666) to one Edward Pace's property adjoining that of Richard Todd in Elizabeth City County, which was at the mouth of the James River and is now the city of Hampton, VA. Who is this early Edward Pace, guesstimating his birth year before 1644? He would have been a contemporary of Richard Pace II, would he not, unless this Edward was actually much older. - Joyce H.

    10/08/2005 03:15:00
    1. Re: [PACE-L] If you thought your Family died in CA ck this out
    2. Scott Aaron
    3. Just as a follow-up to this, you can also view California Birth Records from 1905 to 1995 at no cost at: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_vitals/cabirthm.htm You just need to register for a free guest pass. These records are also available through ancestry.com, but you need a subscription to access them from there. By the way, I'm still not sure how in this age of the identity theft problem, that you can get away with posting the birth records, mother's maiden names, etc of people that are still living, but apparently you can....and who are we genealogists to turn down freebie's like these. :) Scott --- darlene <darlene@adweb.net> wrote: > Hi All & I saw a lot of Mo and Ark Pace's on there > ,..... I found three of My pace's on there so far > ... Just put in the name Pace will give name and > date of birth where born and where died and mothers > maiden Name a great Site... will keep you busy for > the Day there were 2088 for Pace Death in Calif > > email I got this morning say go here.... > > We're giving away the entire California Death Index > (1940-1997) forever! > Come search for free at: > http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/caldeaths > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/07/2005 11:11:30
    1. re: Colonial Dames and Richard Pace
    2. James Pace
    3. About twenty years ago I was browsing the Genealogy section of the San Diego Public Library and ran across an old volume, pre-World War I, showing biographies of some members of the Colonial Dames. Perhaps they were some of the founding members. As I said this was twenty years ago, and my memory is not perfect. I have returned to the library and tried to locate this volume, but to no avail. I also made a fruitless search of the card catalogue. However, what caught my attention was that one of the members claimed a descent from Richard Pace of Jamestown. Proof of descent from said Richard is enough to insure entry into the organization today, providing one passes the gender test. I do not remember her name, though it was not Pace. I believe she resided in Georgia, perhaps Atlanta. If I could find this book, it would show a genealogy from Richard to said member. This genealogy would be of historical interest, I believe, since the date of the book’s entry dated from about 1905. Is anyone aware of this publication? The on-line catalogue of the Library of Congress shows some books on the subject of the membership of the Colonial Dames dating back to before 1915, but this is of no immediate help to me. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

    10/07/2005 06:37:11
    1. Joseph Farrar Pace b. Jul 1859 Mecklenburg Co.Va
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. Who were his parents, siblings, descendents?

    10/07/2005 03:29:45
    1. If you thought your Family died in CA ck this out
    2. darlene
    3. Hi All & I saw a lot of Mo and Ark Pace's on there ,..... I found three of My pace's on there so far ... Just put in the name Pace will give name and date of birth where born and where died and mothers maiden Name a great Site... will keep you busy for the Day there were 2088 for Pace Death in Calif email I got this morning say go here.... We're giving away the entire California Death Index (1940-1997) forever! Come search for free at: http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/caldeaths

    10/07/2005 02:15:12
    1. Message I just recieved
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. This interesting message just now popped into my inbox--- Roy Johnson From: William Morrow [mailto:billmorrow1938@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:44 PM To: dna@pacesociety.org Subject: Pace DNA project Roy Johnson, Group Administrator, I'm Bill Morrow, Co-Administrator of the Morrow DNA testing project. I'm also a Pace descendant thru Richard III's son Thomas thru his dau Amey Pace 1739-1815 m. Solomon Strickland. I have a "fair" documented Pace file and am willing to share with your group 3a, specifically kit # 10428, #1418, #6352. Basically anybody who wants to email me. I feel I have good proof that Richard II 1636-1677's father was George Pace 1610-1655. I really enjoyed looking your website over, by the way, the link from FamilytreeDNA to your site didn't work, I had to go thru google.com to find your website. What troubles you have had. I have 39 members in my Morrow group, and just about all believed at the start the various books written on our lines were "set in stone". DNA results are unraveling those books. So I've had troubles of my own. But the Pace line is much more famous than Morrow, and goes back to Jamestown at its beginnings. I do hope you'll be able to hold on to our line going back to Richard 1585-1628 & John jr 1522-1590. ..Bill Morrow of Oklahoma

    10/06/2005 04:12:12
    1. Cuthbert Champion of Fluvanna,Va-1807-Jesse Pace inventory
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. Witnesses to the inventory of Jesse Pace of Fluvanna,Va who died abt. 1807 and left a widow, Mourning Pace. I believe her maiden name was Adams. mentioned for the sales of estate are: Mourning Pace James Payne Walker Timberlake John Howard John B. Magaruder witnesses to the inventory were: Cuthbert Champion Patrick Woodson George Woodson Signed and sealed in the presence of B.C.Woodson I believe there is a connection between the Pace family and the Champions and Woodsons. Also, would anyone know if Mourning Adams Pace later married someone named Barnett. And did she and Jesse have a daughter Named mary? From the Fluvanna Co. Death records, by Nell Hailey, Page 129: Morris, Mary(white female) d. 8 Sep. 1875 of rheumatism, aged 75 Yr. Dau. of Jesse & Mourning Pace,b. Fluvanna Sp, of George Morris, George Morris, husband, reported

    10/04/2005 03:33:27
    1. DNA mixup
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. One of the problems of managing the Pace DNA site is that I do not have time to keep up with the individual lines, and I depend on members of those lines and others to do that. I am a go-between; I post the information that I get and do not have the time to verify it. By private email, I have received information that the post below might be inaccurate. The lines of 15541 and 40018 may be "crossed up" with 7811, who proves out to be in the John Pace-Sarah Burgh group, while 15541 and 40018 do not match with any other Paces. GT Pace (Gordon of Canada) has addressed this issue in a previous post. First, here are the lineages in the Donors page of the Paces involved, followed by my original post. Note that from the lineages submitted, there is no clear connection between these lines. I don't have time to sort all of this out; I will leave it to members of the lines affected, but it appears as if there may be some confusion somewhere as the DNA results do not show a connection between 7811 and the other two. Kit 7811 Unsure 1. 0. Donor 2. 1. Father 3. 2. Grandfather 4. 3. JAMES DEAN PACE b 1835, Giles Co TN + spouse, HANNAH BELIEU (Documented) 5. 4. THOMAS PACE, b. 1811, TN. + spouse, MARY HENDRIX (Documented) 6. 5. WILLIAM PACE b ca 1775, where? + spouse, SARAH FRAZIER (Documented) COMMENT: DNA results show common ancestry with John Pace-Sarah Burgh descendants. 15541 Unsure 0. donor 1. Father 2. John Jefferson Pace b. 10-2-1906 Chester,Arkansas d. 1-19-1973 Lodi,California m.Dorothy Perigo Abt.1-18 or 19 -1930 b.12-18-1908 Lacy,South Dakota d. 12-10-2001 St. Louis,Missouri 3. Joseph H. Pace b. 10-14-1871 Benton County,Arkansas d. 5-5-1944 Chester,Arkansas m. Della J. Burgett 12-2-1897 b. 11-24-1878 d.4-6-1927 4. William R. Pace b. 5-12-1824 Giles County,Tennessee d. 5-15-1892 Benton County,Arkansas m. Sarah Ann Hendrix Abt. 1847 b.5-15-1827 d.7-27-1889 5. William Pace( no information as of this date) 40018 Unsure 0. Donor. 1. Father 2. Grandfather Joseph H. Pace ---Born oct 14, 1871 Benton Co, Arkansas Died may 5, 1944 Fort Smith, ---Arkansas Have funeral record, death certificate, census records, ---and photos. 3. Great Grandfather William R. Pace Born May 12, 1821 Tenn ---Died May 15, 1892 Benton co, Arkansas ---census records, and photos of tombstones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: New DNA results > > One of the major Pace lineages for which the ancestry is undiscovered, is > that of William R. Pace and Sarah Hendrix of Giles Co, TN and Benton Co, > AR. > This is the ancestry of DNA test subject #15541 as well as the ancestry of > James > Dean Pace of Benton Co. > This is briefly what I know about this lineage: > > William Pace was b. abt. 1770 in SC and died abt. 1825-30, probably in > Maury > Co, TN. He married Sarah Frazier abt. 1803 in Mississippi Territory, > daughter > of William Frazier and a Native American. Per Gale Judkins, family lore > says > that this family was closely associated with the Choctaw tribe in > Mississippi > Territory and Sarah may have been a full-blood Choctaw. The area of > residence prior to the removal of the Choctaw was near what is now > Yalobusha Co, MS. > The family apparently arrived in TN before 1811. > Their children were: Alpha Pace b. 1804, d. 1875 Giles Co, TN, m. John > Escue > > Rachel Pace b. 1809, > Thomas Pace b. 1811, d 1848 in Lawrence Co, TN, > John Jackson b. 1815, d. aft 1870 Giles Co, TN, m. Mourning Logan 1850 > Lawrence Co, TN, > Dempsey b. 1818, d. aft 1880 AR, m. Sarah Cooper in Hardin Co, TN. William > R. Pace b. 1836? Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1890 Benton Co, AR. > > Thomas Pace m. Mary Hendrix 7/17/1833 in Lawrence Co, TN, daughter of > William > Hendrix and Sarah. Their children were: > James Dean Pace b. 1835 Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1880 AR Christopher C. b. > 1836 > TN Sarah E. b. 1840 Sophrona H. b. 1842 Robert Richmond b. 1844 Thomas J. > b. > 1845 > > William R. Pace - birth year from census records range from 1828 to 1836. > On > the 1880 Benton Co, AR census (Brightwater Twp) he shows both parents b. > TN. > William m. Sarah A. Hendrix (sister of above Mary) on 9/12/1849 in > Lawrence > > Co, TN. Their children were: > William J. , John S., Martha Almyra, Thomas E., General E., Mary A., Sarah > Rachel, Susan Arphetty, Fanny H., George M., and Joseph H. b. 10/14/1871 > Benton > Co, AR. > The following children were in the household of William R. on the 1880 > census: John S., Mary E., Sarah R., Fanny H., George M. and Joseph H. Also > in the > hh were William Hendricks 35 and James Hendricks 18, relationship not > noted > > but undoubtedly close relatives of Sarah and Mary Hendrix. > > > Does anyone have a clue as to the ancestry of William Pace b. abt. 1770 > SC? > As the James Dean Pace biography indicates, his family believed him to be > a > descendant of Richard Pace of Jamestown but the one DNA test [15541] from > this line > seems to refute this. > What is greatly needed is another test subject from this line to see if > the > > results match the first. > Gordon W. Pace > > > > We now have that second test, and it exactly matches the first. > > > > Kit 40018 exactly matches 15541 25/25. So it would appear that this line > is > NOT of the Richard Pace lineage. Grandfather of 40018 is great grandfather > of 15541. > > > > These results can be seen on the Results and Donors pages of the DNA site, > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/ > > > > Roy Johnson >

    10/04/2005 02:52:57
    1. New Pacepix posting
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. New PacePix posting for William Cyrus Pace, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/WilliamCyrusPace/ Details: William Cyrus Pace (b.May 17, 1839 in Biggsville, Henderson Co., Illinois). Son of Francis Anderson Pace (b. Sep 29, 1811 in Virginia; d. Oct 10, 1893 in Iowa) and Jane Prunty (b. Abt. 1819 in Kentucky; d. Jul 14, 1892 in Iowa). William C. Pace was a veteran of the Civil War serving with the Company I, 65th Infantry Regiment Illinois. He married Mary Elizabeth Mitchell (b. Oct 02, 1840 in Ohio; d. Jul 16, 1924 in Iowa) on Jan 28, 1866 in Warren County, Illinois. William farmed in White Cloud Township, Mills County, Iowa from 1866 through about 1890. William and Mary are buried in the Glenwood, Iowa Cemetery. Roy Johnson

    10/04/2005 02:17:21
    1. Charles Moore Pace pix
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. Kathy Best just sent me a picture of her grandfather's family. Charles Moore Pace was born 8 Sept 1852 in Fluvanna Co. VA and died 25 Dec 1939 in DeKalb Co. GA. More information is on the picture page. Go directly to it at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/pacepix/CharlesMoorePace/ Roy Johnson

    10/03/2005 01:59:41
    1. Pace Society
    2. Does anyone have the email address for Mira Pace Nelson of the Pace Society? I need to get in touch with her. Thanks, Gale Judkins

    10/02/2005 02:38:17
    1. Re: [PACE-L] New SMGF Pace DNA results available
    2. Scott Aaron
    3. Thanks Rebecca, Excellent explanation. Scott --- Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Scott, > When you go to the page that gives the statistics > on the surname, you are correct that it lists 8 > Paces, but when you actually go to the result pages > for the Pace surname, there are 11 Pace > participants. > The 8 Paces in the surname listing are 8 > "separate lines" of Paces being represented in their > database, according to the way the lineage > information was submitted by the participants. But, > when you actually look at the lineages (the pedigree > icon on the result pages) there are fewer than 8 > Pace families being represented in the database. > For example, for the Michael Pace/Pees matching DNA > results - one participant submitted only 4 > generations (the minimum requirement) - ending with > Amos Pace, b. 1875, wife Emma Margaret Tree, and > another participant submitted his lineage through > Amos Pace (same birth and wife) all the way back to > Michael Pace. It appears that although the two > participants share the same ancestor of Amos Pace, > SMGF has counted this as two lines (of the "8") on > the surname statistics page. This same thing > happens with some of the William Pace/Ruth Lambert > descendants - I believe the 6 participants of this > line are counted as 3 Pace lines on the sur! > name > statistics page, as 4 people are connected in their > database as sharing the same ancestor and these > connect with a 5th participant in an earlier > generation and one participant is not linked to the > line in their database. > > SMGF Database > 11 Pace participants > 8 "unconnected in their database" Pace lines > > Michael Pace - 3 DNA matching participants - 2 > share ancestor Amos Pace, one line ends with a > Luther Pace - but 3 separate "lines" in the SMGF > database > > William Pace/Ruth Lambert - 6 DNA matching > participants - 4 share John Alma Lawrence Pace as an > ancestor, 5 share William Pace (wife Margaret > Nichols) as an ancestor, and the 6th participant is > a descendant of a James O. Pace of Utah who is also > likely William & Ruth's descendant (I know where he > should fit, I just don't have the documentation to > back it up) - but SMGF appears to count these as 3 > separate "lines" in their database because of the > way the lineages were submitted > > Thomas Barker Pace line - 1 participant - 1 "line" > Thomas Johnson/Pace line - 1 participant - 1 "line" > > Totals - 11 participants - 8 "lines" in the database > - but it appears that there are only 4 family > groups, which happens to correspond with the 4 > unique sets of DNA results. > > I hope this helps and is understandable - it may not > make much sense unless you look at all of the > pedigrees submitted by the 11 participants. > > Rebecca > > Scott Aaron <rtanyon@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Rebecca, > > Out of curiosity, I notice that when you view the > surname list on SMGF, where they list a number next > to > the surname to tell you how many different lines > there > are for that surname, that it lists 8 lines for > PACE. > Does this mean there are 6 lines that we're unsure > on > since the William PACE/Ruth LAMBERT and the German > line would only acct for 2 lines (unless I'm getting > confused somewhere?) > > Scott > > --- Rebecca Christensen > wrote: > > > The Sorensen Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) > > database (www.smgf.org) currently includes 11 Pace > > participant results. The results of six of these > > participants put them in Pace DNA project Group 3a > > and are descendants of William Pace and Ruth > Lambert > > and 3 participants match the DNA results for the > > Michael Pace/Pees (German Paces) line. > > > > More information about these newly available DNA > > results can be found on the Pace Society (PSA) > > website - www.pacesociety.org . On the main page > > of the PSA website near the top is a link to "SMGF > > News" which is the link to a .pdf file that > contains > > a summary of the SMGF results and lineages along > > with a chart showing how these DNA results relate > to > > the corresponding results in the Pace DNA project. > > > The SMGF database includes several additional DNA > > markers that are not currently not available from > > Family Tree DNA. > > > > Rebecca Christensen > > > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > > To share info which may be of interest to others, > > reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To > > say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply > > to sender. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > If you haven't done so within the last six months, > please post a message describing your Earliest Pace > Ancestor and how you descend from them. Please > include dates, places, spouses, etc, if possible. > Send the message to PACE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To share info which may be of interest to others, > reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To > say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply > to sender. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

    09/30/2005 07:01:24
    1. Re: [PACE-L] New SMGF Pace DNA results available
    2. Rebecca Christensen
    3. Scott, When you go to the page that gives the statistics on the surname, you are correct that it lists 8 Paces, but when you actually go to the result pages for the Pace surname, there are 11 Pace participants. The 8 Paces in the surname listing are 8 "separate lines" of Paces being represented in their database, according to the way the lineage information was submitted by the participants. But, when you actually look at the lineages (the pedigree icon on the result pages) there are fewer than 8 Pace families being represented in the database. For example, for the Michael Pace/Pees matching DNA results - one participant submitted only 4 generations (the minimum requirement) - ending with Amos Pace, b. 1875, wife Emma Margaret Tree, and another participant submitted his lineage through Amos Pace (same birth and wife) all the way back to Michael Pace. It appears that although the two participants share the same ancestor of Amos Pace, SMGF has counted this as two lines (of the "8") on the surname statistics page. This same thing happens with some of the William Pace/Ruth Lambert descendants - I believe the 6 participants of this line are counted as 3 Pace lines on the sur! name statistics page, as 4 people are connected in their database as sharing the same ancestor and these connect with a 5th participant in an earlier generation and one participant is not linked to the line in their database. SMGF Database 11 Pace participants 8 "unconnected in their database" Pace lines Michael Pace - 3 DNA matching participants - 2 share ancestor Amos Pace, one line ends with a Luther Pace - but 3 separate "lines" in the SMGF database William Pace/Ruth Lambert - 6 DNA matching participants - 4 share John Alma Lawrence Pace as an ancestor, 5 share William Pace (wife Margaret Nichols) as an ancestor, and the 6th participant is a descendant of a James O. Pace of Utah who is also likely William & Ruth's descendant (I know where he should fit, I just don't have the documentation to back it up) - but SMGF appears to count these as 3 separate "lines" in their database because of the way the lineages were submitted Thomas Barker Pace line - 1 participant - 1 "line" Thomas Johnson/Pace line - 1 participant - 1 "line" Totals - 11 participants - 8 "lines" in the database - but it appears that there are only 4 family groups, which happens to correspond with the 4 unique sets of DNA results. I hope this helps and is understandable - it may not make much sense unless you look at all of the pedigrees submitted by the 11 participants. Rebecca Scott Aaron <rtanyon@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Rebecca, Out of curiosity, I notice that when you view the surname list on SMGF, where they list a number next to the surname to tell you how many different lines there are for that surname, that it lists 8 lines for PACE. Does this mean there are 6 lines that we're unsure on since the William PACE/Ruth LAMBERT and the German line would only acct for 2 lines (unless I'm getting confused somewhere?) Scott --- Rebecca Christensen wrote: > The Sorensen Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) > database (www.smgf.org) currently includes 11 Pace > participant results. The results of six of these > participants put them in Pace DNA project Group 3a > and are descendants of William Pace and Ruth Lambert > and 3 participants match the DNA results for the > Michael Pace/Pees (German Paces) line. > > More information about these newly available DNA > results can be found on the Pace Society (PSA) > website - www.pacesociety.org . On the main page > of the PSA website near the top is a link to "SMGF > News" which is the link to a .pdf file that contains > a summary of the SMGF results and lineages along > with a chart showing how these DNA results relate to > the corresponding results in the Pace DNA project. > The SMGF database includes several additional DNA > markers that are not currently not available from > Family Tree DNA. > > Rebecca Christensen > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To share info which may be of interest to others, > reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To > say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply > to sender. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ==== PACE Mailing List ==== If you haven't done so within the last six months, please post a message describing your Earliest Pace Ancestor and how you descend from them. Please include dates, places, spouses, etc, if possible. Send the message to PACE-L@rootsweb.com

    09/30/2005 03:20:04