Sometime ago Jack pace wrote of a Joseph W.Pace son of Jesse Pace b. c. 1774 who married a Catherine Maddox. For some time I have been looking at the Bowles family in Fluvanna as a possible relationship to my grgrandmother Elizabeth? wife of John R.Pace b. 1809 I found on a Maddox family genealogy Sarah Bowles b. 1781 in Goochland Co.Va married Stephen R. Maddox 13 Nov. 1802 in Fluvanna Co.Va ,son of Michael Maddox and Elizabeth Lancaster. He was born 1775 in Va. Gordon Pace of Canada has mentioned the name Maddox in connection with his search of English connections. If anybody has any Bowles- Maddox-Pace connections would be nice to hear.

List, For those I have corresponded with before, I have a new email address pjohndebnospam@verizon.net minus the nospam. Since there are several of us named John Pace and you can sort me out, my old email was johnpace@allvantage.com. Thanks, John > >

Darlene, That Gideon Pace listed in the Tennessee Militia is the son of William Pace and Sisley Walker. Shirley Pace Graham

I am trying to figure out who this Gideon Pace could be :In Book Red River Settlers in TN this book includes Robertson Co TN Gideon Pace Lt. 23 rd Regiment Dec 11 1810(was this a career Man from the Rev War? Or did he join service after Rev War ?) I think I just found my Answer .. He was in the County of Robertson in TN, Tennessee Militia 1796-1811 so he could well be s/o Wm Pace & Secely Walker Darlene

With Ancestry.com just completing the indexing of the WW1 Draft Reg Cards, I thought it would be interesting to see how many PACE's were listed. The total was 3,308. This (in theory) covers all male PACE's that were in the U.S. and born between 1872 and 1900. Of course, you probably have to give or take a hundred or so to allow for transcription errors, and for some possibly falling through the cracks one way or another. Still pretty amazing to think there were THAT many fitting the criteria (PACE male, born between 1872-1900) over 100 years ago. Thats a lot of PACE males to potentially descend from. It also puts into perspective how quickly a family name can proliferate when you think of how relatively few PACE branches of descent there appear to be in the U.S. overall (looking at the PACE DNA study). Scott __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

Mary Ashlin was 1st wife of Murray Pace and had (according to "The Pace Family: 1607-1750") Frances b. 1776, and Polly (Ashlin) b. 1780. These are probably two of the three children mentioned in Ashlin's will. Murray then married Mary Bragg in 1782 and had children Susannah, Joseph, John M. (who married Polly Groome), Sarah (married James Groome), Murray, Edward, James and Rebecca and moved to Clarke Co., Ky. with most of his boys. Mitzi Lois Long Carey" asked, "John Ashlin's Will of 1795: Mentions a child's part to be divided between my grandchildren: Frances Pace, Susanna Pace and Molley Pace] to them and their heirs forever. are these the Children of Murray Pace and Mary Ashlin? Did he have children with Mary Bragg?"

In going through some family history documents left me by my Mother, I found a typewritten page of notes that was likely done in the 1980’s by my Uncle Wilder Roe. It has this heading: Alabama Archives - Microfilm - Minutes of Ulcanush Baptist Church - Coffeeville, Clarke Co. Ala. The next line says: "There are many entries for Pace. Did not copy them." (Most of the page deals with Wiley and Elizabeth Pace Etheredge, who apparently were the primary objects of Mom and Wilder's research.) Some dates: 1822 May 11 - Member by letter William and Drucilla Pace [my note - this must have been shortly after they arrived in Clarke Co.] 1826 June - No meeting because of death of William Pace [JA - this fixes his DOD a bit closer than Bruce Howard had it. The estate records start in July.] 1836 Dec - Bro Wiley Ethridge restored and dismissed by letter. [This likely marked the time that they moved to Marengo County.] I’m wondering if any of you have gone through the Ulcanush Church Minutes in the State Archives in Montgomery? I think that my Uncle was primarily interested in our direct line, Wiley and Elizabeth Pace Etheredge and William and Drucilla Pace. There probably is quite a bit of information there on William’s brother, John Pace and his family, and maybe some other Paces. Bruce Howard did a fine job on the Clarke Co Paces, but he seems to have missed the Ulcanush Church records which would have allowed him to fix William’s death in June of 1826 rather than later in the year. Joe Anderson

My Pace connection is through Elizabeth Pace (m. Wiley Etheredge) who was the daughter of William Pace and Drucilla. They all wound up in Clarke County, Alabama, in the 1820’s where William died in 1826. Bruce Howard has done a good job of presenting information on these Paces, but it can get confusing since so many Pace cousins shared the same given names (William, John, Dempsey, etc). In trying to figure out those Clarke County Paces, I went to the 1830 Clarke county census, using both a transcription and downloaded pdf images. On page 228 (page number is the original from pdf images), Demsey Pace is living next door to William Thornton and one house away from Abner Turner. This must be in the West Bend community within a mile of the house where I grew up. The Turners were our neighbors when I was growing up, still living on the land where Abner Turner had settled prior to the Creek Wars of 1813/14, and near the Turner stockade where some of the Paces holed up during parts of the conflict. In my youth, some Thorntons were still living just down the road from our house. On pages 244-245 we find: Richard Pace Followed by three Thornton households followed by Wiley Ethridge (husband of Elizabeth Pace) Next door to Frederic Pace Next door to Burril Pace After 9 houses we find William Pace After 11 houses we find Drewcilla Pace [Spellings are as given in the census with the exception that I have changed “Thorington” to Thornton. I know of no Thoringtons in the area but there were plenty of Thorntons – see some of the witnesses of the William Pace estate documents.] This second group of Paces may be in the Ulcanush Baptist Church area near where John and William Pace originally settled (north of Coffeeville and SW of West Bend), but I can’t be sure. All of the Paces shown in the 1830 census are listed as legatees in the estate of William Pace (m. Drucilla, d. 1826) with the exception of the William who lived between Burrel and Drucilla in 1830. The age range of the Pace adults would seem to fit the children of William and Drucilla. The two daughters (Anna and Susannah) who married McCullar brothers appear to have moved away. (The William Pace estate records are in the members-only Pace database maintained by Val Tice. I have copies that were sent to me by a generous cousin who had visited the Clarke County courthouse.) My hypothesis here is that all of the Paces who remained in Clarke County, AL, in 1830 are descendents of William Pace (m. Drucilla, d. 1826) with the possible exception of the younger William. Bruce Howard lists a William as one of the older sons of Dempsey, so perhaps this William is his son and Drucilla’s grandson? The remainder of the John Pace descendents appear to have moved away, most likely to Mississippi. Can anyone confirm or refute this hypothesis, or otherwise help me out here? Joe Anderson

John Ashlin's Will of 1795: Mentions a child's part to be divided between my grandchildren: Frances Pace, Susanna Pace and Molley Pace] to them and their heirs forever. are these the Children of Murray Pace and Mary Ashlin? Did he have children with Mary Bragg?

Many thanks to all who answered my query a few days ago. Tried to put together a 'short' response on relationships of Bradford ancestors with early Pace's but gave up. Basically James Ward, William Barker, & Richard Taylor were early Bradford ancestors. All same area as George Pace, Richard II. Richard Taylor's first land purchase was from Richard & Mary Pace. Richard Taylor/Richard Pace II witnessed many documents together. (R. Taylor's daughter m. Richard Bradford) Richard III carried on with this association. (Have not myself run into any Richard III's that seemed to be strays.) Many Thanks, Becky

Since today, November 11th, is Remembrance Day we wear poppies, here in Canada, and gather at cenotaphs, in town parks, like in the US, to remember those brave and courageous men who gave the untimate sacrifice of life, in wars. Poppies grew between the rows of graves in the cemeteries and as kids in school, we learned the famous poem "In Flanders Fields" ...the poppies grow between the crosses, row on row I have a special observation of thanks that involves the name GORDON. The name GORDON is not a name of popularity or tradition in PACE families, as many of you have probably wondered. In my case, the GORDON (Christian name) came from the Scottish surname of a nurse GORDON who was attending my mother the night I was born when, she told me, the hospital in Birmingham, England was bombed during an air raid in June 1940. Somehow we survived and I was named GORDON, in respect of the nurse. This carries on, in life and being Remerberance Day, may be appropriate to mention, today. This is a fortunate thing. I can collect beautiful articles of the GORDON name, associated with this Scottish surname, tea cups, coffee mugs, the tartan, the Gordon beer stein, etc. Also, I'd like to thank the many folks that have written to me since I mentioned there were two GORDON PACES. Gordon W. Pace runs this Rootsweb.com mailing list and lives in Portland, Oregon. At Kansas City, I asked Larry Pace, our Society membership person, if he saw any confusion about two Gordon Paces of these PACE matters. He said there certainly was. Roy Johnson has suggested to me to sign my emails as Gordon T. Pace of Canada so I'll try this, hoping it will help.

Ureka !! I see the email went, and arrived on the list. So much frustration with 'it all' the past few weeks. My son put Windows XP on this, from 98. Now, it seems I have to find my programme CD's, reload, do some learning and hopefully finding my folders, files, so I can carry on with this web page work. Another interesting PACE fact. My daughter was named Clarinda Pace. "Are we there yet?" was the frequent question so I taught her to read maps. I showed her the Iowa map, where there is a Clarinda, Iowa. I believe there are also Paces there, descendents of John of Middlesex. Another CLARINDA was Clarinda Pace Bennett of Yarmouth. Back in 1998 a descendent of the NJ PACE Family wrote to me. The researcher thought it was Yarmouth, Nova Scotia but it eventually turned out to be Yarmouth township in Elgin County, Ontario. http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/lines/yarmouth.htm I was amazed at this coincidence, my mother was a Bennett and we lived in Nova Scotia when I was young. Many descendents of this NJ PACE family have emerged, over the years, making their story one of the bright spots of PACE research and discovery. No doubt the many descendents of today have enjoyed the thrill of learning of one another through the internet, and research work. GTPace Ontario,Canada

Last month I visited my daughter who is working in New Brunswick, Canada, actually on the Bay of Fundy where the tides can get as high as 52 feet or more. This is a wonder of the world, the Bay of Fundy tides. I took some video of fishing boats at high tide, then came back at low tide, about 6 hours later, and took some more video of the same boats. You'd have to see this to believe the difference. Anyway, what went on during the 6 hours, may be of interest to PACE folk. A local NB Maritimer suggested we go down the coast a mile or two and see the lighthouse, the rocks, surging current and view of Nova Scotia, about 25 miles across the bay. Clarinda and I drove along, found the rural lane and hiked around the light house for a while. On the way back up the lane, a man and woman walking along, waved us to stop and talk, probably seeing Ontario licence plate on the car. The people had lived in Toronto, Ont. prior to New Brunswick. The woman had an English Accent. She was from Staffordshire. I said I had a web page for my ancestors from Staffordshire, Shropshire. The man said he was from Malta. I said "I also have a web page for people of my surname, from Malta. My name is Gord Pace. The man seeme a bit stunned for a second or two, then said, I'm GEORGE PACE" Well, we spent a good part of the six hours, with them, waiting for the spectacular tide to change, discussing the PACE story, etc. George and Mary Pace have a computor and had already seen the Pace web sites. George and Mary Pace have another house they rent out during the summer, Nearby, at St. Martins, where the boats are, were two of New Brunswick's picturesque covered bridges. You can get both bridges and the boats, and the incredible tidal difference, if you wait the 6 hours, on the same photo. Anyway, I thought you'd like this story. You never know where a PACE will show up. GTPace Ontario,Canada

It's rather interesting to collect the many, PACE Christenings, marriages from the LDS FamilySearch.org site and arrange them on web pages. I began this venture a few years ago because my GEORGE PACE 6X great-grandfather Christened 1670 did not seem to fit into any other PACE family group. Altogether, there are about 48 PACE Christenings of St. Chads parish, Prees, Shropshire. Most can be fitted into their respective family structure. What has become rather noteworthy is the study of other Shropshire surnames, connected to PACE, through marriage. I am in the process of creating some new web pages, each one being a list of Christenings and marriages of each surname. Some of these surnames are GROOM, MADDOX, WRIGHT and others. See - http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm I have a lot of records in 'My Documents' sub-folders that I want to post on these web pages. The marriages keep going around, time and time again and I'd like to put in links between the pages to illustrate the many inter-marriages. I believe there is a lot more to find out about, such as those Shropshire people who emmigrated to colonial shores. This is difficult to determine but the more records get posted and the family structure becomes apparent, the more hidden secrets seem to appear, as I've come to realise, over the years, as I collect and post these marriages, Christenings on web pages, and stand back and look at them. Some of these surnames also show up in Colonial Virginia, so this supports the concept of JOHN PACE of Middlesex originating from this area of Shropshire. I hope some of you will be able to view these various records, in the near future, and maybe discover some links to your colonial families. Some of the MADDOX info (Kentucky, Kansas, etc.) came from the GROOM Rootsweb list which has PACE also. I'm having some frustrating email sending trouble so I'll keep my fingers crossed and see if this will transmit. GTPace Ontario,Canada

In case people are searching for info on the NJ PACE lines (the German branch) in the future, I thought I'd post a useful link for the area where they lived (then) Sussex County...now the towns of Washington, Oxford, etc (NW section of NJ near the PA border): http://raub-and-more.com/ If you go there and enter "PACE" in the search field, you'll find a fair number of PACE marriage and burial records. Its interesting to note some of the related surnames from the area (AXFORD, EVELAND, STRYKER, WILLEVER, PETTY, WELCH, SOVEREIGN, DECOU/W, etc.) and how they migrated with the PACE branch that went to Ontario. Many of these same branches migrated from Prussia to New Jersey together as well. Scott __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Thanks to all who have sent solutions. Val Tice was the first one to reply and my problem is solved. Sarah Lingwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005

Since the Pace Society of America website/database has come up on the list, I just wanted to let the users know that from now through Sunday there will be times both sites will be down. Apparently, I have filled up an entire computer disk, and my brother has to move part of the system to second computer. That will cause both sites to go down intermittently. That's why both sites have been moving so slowly the last week or so. I apologize for any inconvenience. Hopefully we will have this resolved shortly. Val Tice Pace Society of America Historian & Archivist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Lingwall" <fox10@tampabay.rr.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:18 AM Subject: [PACE-L] Log on problems > Thanks to all who have sent solutions. Val Tice was the first one to > reply > and my problem is solved. > Sarah Lingwall > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 11/9/2005 > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list > (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, > reply to sender. > >

Can someone tell me how to log in to the members only section? What I thought was my password and user name does not work. Sarah Lingwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005

Our second Italian Pace has been added to the group from the National Geographic project. There was no match between these two. I put them in the section with the non-matching Paces. As I said, when I get time, I will set u a separate section, maybe eventually even a separate page. It would be nice if an Italian Pace with good genealogical knowledge and maybe some computer smarts could be found to bring in as an associate webmaster. Maybe this will be an opening to get some of these folks into the Pace Society. Roy Johnson

At 08:35 09/11/2005 -0600, Janders 45 wrote: >My university training was in plant genetics and I am employed as >something of an applied geneticist (a plant breeder) who is trying >to use the modern DNA (molecular) technologies in my work. It has >required a lot of work for me to bring my skills up to modern levels >and I find it fascinating that a group of laymen have been able to >use DNA results to reach useful conclusions in their area of interest. Even more unexpectedly, it emerged last week that a 15-year-old boy with a minimal amount of background information, an impressive quantity of initiative, and a sound understanding of the principles of Y-chromosome inheritance, has used the FTDNA database to help him find the identity of his anonymous-sperm-donor father. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4400778.stm Ellen