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    1. Salvatore Joseph De Pace Obituary
    2. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Jan. 21, 2006. (ajc.com) Salvatore Joseph De Pace , 74, died Mon. (Jan. 16) at his Dunwoody residence. The body was cremated. He was a native of Providence, RI, who came to Atlanta in 1976 as a real estate developer and manager, and quickly became a leading figure in Atlanta's travel industry. Survivors include a son, David, of Phoenix; two daughters, Marie Heath of Dallas and Gigi Leavitt of Phoenix, six stepdaughters (named), two stepsons (named); a brother, John, of Phoenix, twenty-eight grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren. (Photo and long obit in the paper.) Kathy Best

    01/21/2006 02:42:05
    1. Margaret Angeline Pace b. 14 Sept. 1842
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. She appears to be the dau. of James Pace and Lucinda Gibson Strickland Who were their parents She married Arthur Morrison Rawson in Hancock, Illinois He died 28 Feb. 1923 at Ogden, utah Is there a Nibley, Oregon Margaret A. Pace Rawson died 18 Feb. 1928 anyone know where she is buried. children were: All born in Utah Lucinda Rawson b. 1860 Amanda Jane Rawson b. 1861 Margaret Ann Rawson b. 1864 Arthur Franklin Rawson b. 1869 Dora May Rawson b. 1869 William John Rawson .1873 Mary Luette Rawson b. 1875 Horace Edward Rawson b. 1877 James Daniel Rawson b. 1879

    01/21/2006 04:53:53
    1. PAICE, PACE marriages in Berkshire, England
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. Just some postings I found on and thought them interesting: Jeremiah Paice m Esther Rapley in Burghfield, B erkshire in 1763 This was posted on the Pace forum From the ancestry file of Ronald Coleman: Mary Lucretia Pace b.ab. 1529 m. John Ball b. abtl 1525 in Workingham, Berkshire England They were married abt.1850 He was married several times and had quite a few children another wife was Agnes Hathoway b. abt. 1529

    01/21/2006 02:27:45
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. My question was different. Sorry if it wasn't very clear. Larry suggested that McDaniel's mother could have been Zilpha Batten Pace, John Pace's daughter-in-law. I was asking, "if that were the case would John Pace have been likely to name the child as grandson, given that he would NOT have been John Pace's grandson or any blood relation at all?" Personally I think the answer is no, but as I said before, anything is possible. Ellen At 07:30 19/01/2006 -0800, darlene wrote: >Hi All, the question was asked would a Grnfather name a child born out of >wedlock .. John R Pace of Harlan Co Ky named four Grandchildren in his >probate all with different fathers names one of his daughter Had these >children .. 3 of them carried the Pace name one of them Carried the Natural >fathers name.. think in part because his father did reconize him..when he >was older ..altho he also was a married man and after his wife died he >claimed the King son the other fathers were also married men who made a >visit apparently to John R Pace 's daughter ..We got the Death Cert and all >had different fathers names.. same Mother ....Has Anyone tried to get Death >Cert of McDaniel Pace ?? >Darlene >----- Original Message ----- >From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> >To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:10 AM >Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 > > > > Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since > > John Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he > > probably really was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would > > he claim as his grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's > > wife? Anything's possible I suppose, but given that > > > > (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and > > (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and > > (c) John Pace called him grandson and > > (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an > > illegitimate daughter > > > > ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense > > that Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a > > relationship (or was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few > > years, and two children resulted, she wouldn't be the first young > > girl that that happened to. > > > > Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I >wonder? > > > > Ellen > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with >the one word message: subscribe OR unsubscribe > > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1371 (20060118) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

    01/19/2006 12:36:53
    1. Re: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Apparently the purpose of the requirement was to keep blacks off the voting register. "Rockingham County, NC, Permanent Voter Registration, 1902-1908." This registration was mandated by North Carolina in 1902. Any male was eligible to vote if he could read and write or if he had been eligible to vote in 1867 or if he was descended from a man who was eligible to vote in 1867. This record lists the voter's name, his age, the name and residence of the ancestor from whom descended, the date the voter registered and his township. " http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/rockingham1/local.html Ellen

    01/19/2006 07:21:02
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since John Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he probably really was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would he claim as his grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's wife? Anything's possible I suppose, but given that (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and (c) John Pace called him grandson and (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an illegitimate daughter ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense that Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a relationship (or was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few years, and two children resulted, she wouldn't be the first young girl that that happened to. Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I wonder? Ellen

    01/19/2006 04:10:36
    1. Fw: PARENTS OF MCDANIEL PACE
    2. Betty A. Pace
    3. My Zilpha Hall Pace (m. Alsey Pace 1820) cannot be the mother of McDaniel Pace as she was 56 years old and either in Guilford Co. NC or in Mecklenburg Co. NC at the time. Betty Pace ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Larry Pace" <LPace1943@comcast.net> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:53:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 I am so glad Theodore Pace is doing the DNA test. I have studied and researched Ida's quest for the parents of her ancestor McDaniel Pace. The more I look at all the facts and possibilities, the more questions than answers are found. I will share in future e-mails to follow various ideas from my research. My hope is that the DNA will answer at least one question. WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF MCDANIEL PACE b. July 12,1856 NC, d. Aug 30, 1918? Note the following info and the URL. This info is most likely the reason that Ida and others may think that McDaniel Pace may not be a Pace. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/bastardy.htm JOHNSTON COUNTY BASTARDY BONDS Pg. 34; Date: 25 May 1857; Mother-Zilpha Pace; Father-Daniel Sellers WHO IS THE CHILD OF ZILPHA PACE & Daniel Sellars? IS THE CHILD A MALE OR FEMALE? Is there a way to determine if the child might be McDaniel Pace who was most likely born the year before? DO WE KNOW WHICH ZILPHA PACE of two Zilpha Pace's in the Johnston County area, could be the mother in this Bastardy Bond? IS SHE A SINGLE ZILPHA PACE OR A MARRIED ZILPHA PACE? More info from URL explaining a Bastardy Bond "A bastardy bond was the means by which the counties of North Carolina provided support for illegitimate children. When it was discovered that a woman was pregnant with an illegitimate child, she was examined and required to give the name of the reputed father. With that information, the father was then required to support the child and prevent he or she from becoming a charge of the County. Should the father not believe that the child was his, he could request a judgment of a jury in hopes that they would believe that he was not the father. If the mother refused to admit the name of the father, then she was required to post her own bond. Although they rarely give the name of the child, simple arithmetic will provide the birth date of the child to within a month or so. Illegitimate children always took the name of the mother unless they were declared legitimate and claimed by the father. These bonds are housed in the North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC in two volumes that cover 1850 to 1895. (NCSA C.R. #56.102.1 & .2)" Most important is that there are least 4 Zilphas, Zilpheys, Zilphia's in this area of Pace research that can keep us confused. Either Zilpha # 2 or # 3 could be the mother to the illegitimate child noted in the Bastardy bond. 1) Zilpha Hall, b abt 1800, md Alsy/Alsey Pace, b 1785, married Sept 21, 1820, Johnston Co., Alsey Pace is said to be a half brother to John Pace who has a daughter Zilpha. 2) ZILPHA PACE, most likely the daughter of John Pace & Edney Batten, was b. abt 1845(1839-1844?) married Henry Garner 3 AUG 1870 in Johnston County, NC. It appears Zilpha may have an illegitimate daughter Frances E. b. abt 1862 (born out of wedlock- who is her father? 1870 Census. 3) Zilpha Batten (b. abt 1832) md Bartly Pace (b. 1821-1826; d bef. 1860) 15 Jan 1850 Johnston Co. Bartly (Bartley) Pace is most likely the son of John & Edney Pace. 4) Zilphia Pace b. Feb. 1893, daughter of McDaniel and Harriet Wall Pace Has anyone ever looked at one of the Bastardy Bonds ? Does it show more info than noted above? Larry Pace Subject: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line > Funding is complete for the Theodore Pace application, as discussed in > previous emails. The FTDNA fund is working out fine; we have a small > surplus to be applied the next time there is a need. > Roy Johnson > DNA coordinator

    01/19/2006 02:17:58
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. IDA sent the info below recently. This info refers to 2 deeds, one granting a parcel of land to his daughter Zilpha Pace Garner and her heirs. The other grants land to his grandson McDaniel Pace. Does this mean that Zilpha might not consider McDaniel her heir or is possible that McDaniel was more a son than a grandson and needed or deserved land of his own? WHATEVER THESE 2 DEEDS DO NOT PROVE THAT MCDANIELS MOTHER IS ZILPHA PACE. From what I read the deeds prove that McDaniel Pace is John Pace's grandson and that Zilpha Pace Garner is his daughter. Are there other deeds that might show land granted to John Pace's other children or widowed spouses and other grandchildren? IDA'S PREVIOUS INFO "What I found last week when I re-visited the Register of Deeds Office at the County Courthouse in Smithfield was a Land Deed between John Pace, the grantor, and Zilpha Garner, the grantee. This record can be found in Deed Book 'O', page 33. The first part of it (the part that caused my heart to go pitter-patter!) reads as follows: "This indenture made the 25th of July 1871 between John Pace of Johnston County and State of North Carolina of the first part and Zilpha Garner wife of Wm H Garner [sic] of the above written County and State. Witnesseth that the said John Pace for and in consideration of natural love and affection to him in hand paid by his daughter Zilpha Garner [that's the exciting part!!] the receipt is hereby acknowledged hath granted bargained and given and by these presents doth grant bargain give the said Zilpha Garner and her heirs a certain tract of land in Johnston County adjoining the lands of Jas H Batten and others on the south side of little creek [sic]." The remainder of the document is typical "deed-speak" with a description of the property given in metes and bounds terminology, etc. On the next page (page 34) of the same book is another Deed with John Pace as the Grantor and McDanel [sic] Pace as the Grantee. "McDanel" is cited in the document as "his grandson McDanel Pace", referring to John Pace. Larry Pace

    01/19/2006 02:02:01
    1. RE: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Roy Johnson
    3. Yes--that was the infamous "Grandfather clause" used all over the south to keep blacks from voting. An illiterate white could vote if his grandfather could; a black man could not unless he could pass the literacy test, and they sometimes made the literacy test quite hard. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net [mailto:genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:21 AM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 Apparently the purpose of the requirement was to keep blacks off the voting register. "Rockingham County, NC, Permanent Voter Registration, 1902-1908." This registration was mandated by North Carolina in 1902. Any male was eligible to vote if he could read and write or if he had been eligible to vote in 1867 or if he was descended from a man who was eligible to vote in 1867. This record lists the voter's name, his age, the name and residence of the ancestor from whom descended, the date the voter registered and his township. " http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/rockingham1/local.html Ellen ==== PACE Mailing List ==== To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply to sender.

    01/19/2006 01:53:01
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. Does anyone have a copy of this particular Bastardy Bond? I am only quoting an index reference which does not provide the name or sex of the child. From the Index we can not determine anything about the child born. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/bastardy.htm JOHNSTON COUNTY BASTARDY BONDS Pg. 34; Date: 25 May 1857; Mother-Zilpha Pace; Father-Daniel Sellers Regarding "Frances E." or "Bettie", her mother Zilpha Pace is not on the index list. There is only 1 Bastardy bond indexed in 1862. Larry Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 > Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since John > Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he probably really > was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would he claim as his > grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's wife? Anything's > possible I suppose, but given that > > (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and > (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and > (c) John Pace called him grandson and > (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an illegitimate > daughter > > ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense that > Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a relationship (or > was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few years, and two children > resulted, she wouldn't be the first young girl that that happened to. > > Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I > wonder? > > Ellen

    01/19/2006 12:53:32
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. darlene
    3. Hi All, the question was asked would a Grnfather name a child born out of wedlock .. John R Pace of Harlan Co Ky named four Grandchildren in his probate all with different fathers names one of his daughter Had these children .. 3 of them carried the Pace name one of them Carried the Natural fathers name.. think in part because his father did reconize him..when he was older ..altho he also was a married man and after his wife died he claimed the King son the other fathers were also married men who made a visit apparently to John R Pace 's daughter ..We got the Death Cert and all had different fathers names.. same Mother ....Has Anyone tried to get Death Cert of McDaniel Pace ?? Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 > Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since > John Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he > probably really was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would > he claim as his grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's > wife? Anything's possible I suppose, but given that > > (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and > (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and > (c) John Pace called him grandson and > (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an > illegitimate daughter > > ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense > that Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a > relationship (or was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few > years, and two children resulted, she wouldn't be the first young > girl that that happened to. > > Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I wonder? > > Ellen > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word message: subscribe OR unsubscribe > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > __________ NOD32 1.1371 (20060118) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    01/19/2006 12:30:53
    1. Fwd: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Rebecca Christensen
    3. I could not find the information I received from the Johnston County, NC Heritage Center telling about who was eligible for the voter registration and why there was an "ancestor" listed. A google search brought up the following voter registration requirements from a Rockingham Co., NC website. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/rockingham1/local.html "This registration was mandated by North Carolina in 1902. Any male was eligible to vote if he could read and write or if he had been eligible to vote in 1867 or if he was descended from a man who was eligible to vote in 1867. This record lists the voter's name, his age, the name and residence of the ancestor from whom descended, the date the voter registered and his township." Note in the case of Larry Pace below, the Larry Pace "ancestor" may have been Larry Pace himself as he was probably eligible to vote in 1867. Copies of the original voter registrations below can most likely be obtained from the Johnston County, NC Heritage Center. I hope my earlier post hasn't confused anyone. Rebecca Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:34:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 Hope this helps. I at one time knew the reason why an "ancestor" was required at the time of voter registration, but I can't find the e-mail I received from the Johnston County, NC Heritage Center. Rebecca Johnston County Voter Registration Records from 1902, Johnston County Heritage Center's Research Databases Project http://www.johnstonnc.com/mainpage.cfm?category_level_id=727&content_id=1530 Records are sorted alphabetically by last name, first name, then age. Pace entries: Record ID: 3306 Name: Pace, David Age: 51 Ancestor: Bartly Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 4386 Name: Pace, Larry Age: 69 Ancestor: Larry Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 24, 1902 Township: West Selma Record ID: 3308 Name: Pace, Linard [Leonard] Age: 40 Ancestor: John Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 3305 Name: Pace, McDaniel Age: 46 Ancestor: John Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 332 Name: Pace, T.L. Age: 37 Ancestor: Jas. M. Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 18, 1902 Township: Lower Clayton ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com

    01/18/2006 11:09:25
    1. Re: [PACE-L] MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. Interesting data. I wonder how accurate the info would be? Does the ancestor possibly mean the father or a possible grandparent or more? 1)David Pace was b. abt 1850 and has been reported as a son of Bartley Pace-info agrees. Record ID: 3306 Name: Pace, David Age: 51 Ancestor: Bartly Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 4386 2) If Larry Pace says his ancestor is Larry Pace, this adds another Larry Pace not previously noted in my research or other postings that I have viewed. The Larry Pace noted would be b. abt 1833. The Larry Pace I have noted as a son of John Pace b. abt 1798 was estimated to have been b. abt 1826. This info adds a new challenge. > Name: Pace, Larry > Age: 69 > Ancestor: Larry Pace > State: NC > Date of Application: October 24, 1902 > Township: West Selma > 3) Leonard Pace b. Johnston Co. NC in 1879 in Jo. Co., NC d. 1927 in Nash Co., NC. wife Nettie Celeste DEANS Pace b. abt 1887, Nash Co. NC Leonard's father is reported to be McDaniel Pace The birth year for Linard(Leonard) below is about 1862 a difference of 17 years > Record ID: 3308 > Name: Pace, Linard [Leonard] > Age: 40 > Ancestor: John Pace > State: NC > Date of Application: October 23, 1902 > Township: Beulah 4) McDaniel Pace below shows a birth year abt. 1866 while previous info says 1856. His grandfather is said to be John Pace. > Record ID: 3305 > Name: Pace, McDaniel > Age: 46 > Ancestor: John Pace > State: NC > Date of Application: October 23, 1902 > Township: Beulah 5) No info on this one- research needed Record ID: 332 Name: Pace, T.L. Age: 37 Ancestor: Jas. M. Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 18, 1902 Township: Lower Clayton Larry Pace

    01/18/2006 04:58:22
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. THEORY # 2 McDaniel Pace' s parents Maybe the other son of John and Edney Pace, Larry Pace, b. abt 1826, is McDaniels father thru a relationship prior to his known recorded marriage. LARRY PACE married CYNTHIA BATTEN(b 1835) on 9 Apr 1856 - Johnston, NC Cynthia Batten parents are James H Batten, b abt 1804 and Sally Garner, b. abt 1801 Known CHILDREN of Larry & Cynthia Pace Nancy b. bet. 1859-1860, died bef. 1870 census? SARAH A., B. ABT 1862, Maybe Larry Pace is the father, but most likely his wife Cynthia is not the mother, noting they married April 9, 1856 and McDaniel Pace by the 1900 census was born July 12, 1856. If Cynthia is not the mother, this could explain why McDaniel Pace Grandparents have him in their household on 1860 and 1870 census. But it possible that McDaniels mother might have died, thus the living arrangements for McDaniel. Are their other possibilities or theories? Larry Pace

    01/18/2006 03:36:47
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. Another theory regarding the parentage of McDaniel Pace b . 1856 Bartly Pace (b. 1821-1826, d. bef. 1860) md Zilphey Batten 15 Jan 1850, Johnston Co.; Bondsman: Henry Starling; Witness: H I Bell CHILDREN DAVID, b. abt 1850 BYTHAN, b. abt 1852 MERIT, b. abt 1854-55, md Eliza Sulevant May 14, 1885, Johnston Co., NC HARRIET, b. abt 1855-1856 AND MAYBE MCDANIEL, b. July 1856 (per 1900 census) Bartly Pace is purported to be a son of John Pace & Edney Batten Marriage: 22 DEC 1821 , Johnston, North Carolina Is this Zilphey Batten Pace the mother of McDaniel Pace but the actual father is Daniel Sellers? Need Harriet and McDaniel's birthdates to see if there is 8-9 months difference or if they are twins. What mother would give up one twin if such occurred, but we do not know until 1860 where McDaniel is living. So if his father is Bartley who died before the 1860 census, then maybe he went to live with his grandparents, but if his father is possibly Daniel Sellers, maybe it was better for the grandparents to rear him. Bartley PACE died by 1859 per the dower noted. PACE, BARTLEY - 1859 - Wid. Zilpha [Batten] Pace dower 25-1/2 ac. (10+) Also Zilpha Batten Pace is widowed at the time of the 1860 Census So why is McDaniel living in 1860 Census with his grandparents John & Edney Pace, his Aunt Zilpha Pace, and in 1870 Census he is living with his widowed grandfather John and a Frances E. Pace, age 7? One of McDaniels purported mother's Zilpha Batten Pace, (b. abt 1832), is widowed in 1860 with 4 of her children living with her, next door to her in-laws John and Edney Pace. My theory is that McDaniel, age 3 in 1860, is living with his grandparents for some reason, death of his mother, maybe house space? McDaniel is still living next door to his Aunt Zilpha Pace Garner in 1870 at the age of 15 (maybe an age error?) and he is also close to Zilpha Batten Pace, widowed wife of Bartly Pace. This is one more theory and it may not stand up to a real test. Larry Pace

    01/18/2006 03:26:38
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. Here are my main arguments that Zilpha Pace b. bet 1839-1845 may not be McDaniel Pace's mother: ZILPHA PACE, most likely the daughter of John Pace & Edney Batten, was b. abt. 1845(maybe b. 1839-1844?) and her purported nephew MCDANIEL was b. July 1856 per 1900 census. There is a range of 9-22 YEARS age DIFFERENCE between ZILPHA PACE AND MCDANIEL PACE WHEN LOOKING AT THE 5 CENSUS YEARS. THEIR AGE DIFFERENCE VARIES FROM 9, 13, 18 & 22 YEARS. Note McDaniel Pace's census age is fairly consistent, while Zilpha's age varies too much, leading one to believe her age reporting is deliberate for some cover-up reasons or more likely just ignorance by those reporting info. This Zilpha Pace, who married Henry Garner, is an supposedly an Aunt to McDaniel as noted in the Land deed between John Pace the grantor, and Zilpha (Pace) Garner, the grantee. CENSUS YEARS COMPARISON TO DETERMINE AGE OF MOTHER AT THE TIME OF MCDANIELS BIRTH TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF MCDANIEL PACE BEING BORN TO ZILPHA PACE GARNER who married Henry Garner Aug 3, 1870 in Johnston Co., NC 1860 CENSUS, ZILPHA AGE 21, & MCDANIEL IS 3: AGE DIFFERENCE 18 YEARS 1870 CENSUS, ZILPHA AGE 24, & MCDANIEL IS 15, AGE DIFFERENCE 9 YEARS 1880 CENSUS, ZILPHA IS AGE 35, & MCDANIEL IS 22, AGE DIFFERENCE 13 YEARS 1900 CENSUS, ZILPHA IS ? & MCDANIEL IS 43, 1910 CENSUS, ZILPHA 75, & MCDANIEL IS 53, AGE DIFFERENCE IS 22 YEARS Ideas??? Larry Pace

    01/18/2006 03:07:14
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Larry Pace
    3. I am so glad Theodore Pace is doing the DNA test. I have studied and researched Ida's quest for the parents of her ancestor McDaniel Pace. The more I look at all the facts and possibilities, the more questions than answers are found. I will share in future e-mails to follow various ideas from my research. My hope is that the DNA will answer at least one question. WHO ARE THE PARENTS OF MCDANIEL PACE b. July 12,1856 NC, d. Aug 30, 1918? Note the following info and the URL. This info is most likely the reason that Ida and others may think that McDaniel Pace may not be a Pace. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/bastardy.htm JOHNSTON COUNTY BASTARDY BONDS Pg. 34; Date: 25 May 1857; Mother-Zilpha Pace; Father-Daniel Sellers WHO IS THE CHILD OF ZILPHA PACE & Daniel Sellars? IS THE CHILD A MALE OR FEMALE? Is there a way to determine if the child might be McDaniel Pace who was most likely born the year before? DO WE KNOW WHICH ZILPHA PACE of two Zilpha Pace's in the Johnston County area, could be the mother in this Bastardy Bond? IS SHE A SINGLE ZILPHA PACE OR A MARRIED ZILPHA PACE? More info from URL explaining a Bastardy Bond "A bastardy bond was the means by which the counties of North Carolina provided support for illegitimate children. When it was discovered that a woman was pregnant with an illegitimate child, she was examined and required to give the name of the reputed father. With that information, the father was then required to support the child and prevent he or she from becoming a charge of the County. Should the father not believe that the child was his, he could request a judgment of a jury in hopes that they would believe that he was not the father. If the mother refused to admit the name of the father, then she was required to post her own bond. Although they rarely give the name of the child, simple arithmetic will provide the birth date of the child to within a month or so. Illegitimate children always took the name of the mother unless they were declared legitimate and claimed by the father. These bonds are housed in the North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC in two volumes that cover 1850 to 1895. (NCSA C.R. #56.102.1 & .2)" Most important is that there are least 4 Zilphas, Zilpheys, Zilphia's in this area of Pace research that can keep us confused. Either Zilpha # 2 or # 3 could be the mother to the illegitimate child noted in the Bastardy bond. 1) Zilpha Hall, b abt 1800, md Alsy/Alsey Pace, b 1785, married Sept 21, 1820, Johnston Co., Alsey Pace is said to be a half brother to John Pace who has a daughter Zilpha. 2) ZILPHA PACE, most likely the daughter of John Pace & Edney Batten, was b. abt 1845(1839-1844?) married Henry Garner 3 AUG 1870 in Johnston County, NC. It appears Zilpha may have an illegitimate daughter Frances E. b. abt 1862 (born out of wedlock- who is her father? 1870 Census. 3) Zilpha Batten (b. abt 1832) md Bartly Pace (b. 1821-1826; d bef. 1860) 15 Jan 1850 Johnston Co. Bartly (Bartley) Pace is most likely the son of John & Edney Pace. 4) Zilphia Pace b. Feb. 1893, daughter of McDaniel and Harriet Wall Pace Has anyone ever looked at one of the Bastardy Bonds ? Does it show more info than noted above? Larry Pace Subject: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line > Funding is complete for the Theodore Pace application, as discussed in > previous emails. The FTDNA fund is working out fine; we have a small > surplus to be applied the next time there is a need. > Roy Johnson > DNA coordinator

    01/18/2006 02:53:50
    1. MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856
    2. Rebecca Christensen
    3. Hope this helps. I at one time knew the reason why an "ancestor" was required at the time of voter registration, but I can't find the e-mail I received from the Johnston County, NC Heritage Center. Rebecca Johnston County Voter Registration Records from 1902, Johnston County Heritage Center's Research Databases Project http://www.johnstonnc.com/mainpage.cfm?category_level_id=727&content_id=1530 Records are sorted alphabetically by last name, first name, then age. Pace entries: Record ID: 3306 Name: Pace, David Age: 51 Ancestor: Bartly Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 4386 Name: Pace, Larry Age: 69 Ancestor: Larry Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 24, 1902 Township: West Selma Record ID: 3308 Name: Pace, Linard [Leonard] Age: 40 Ancestor: John Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 3305 Name: Pace, McDaniel Age: 46 Ancestor: John Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 23, 1902 Township: Beulah Record ID: 332 Name: Pace, T.L. Age: 37 Ancestor: Jas. M. Pace State: NC Date of Application: October 18, 1902 Township: Lower Clayton

    01/18/2006 02:34:14
    1. RE: [PACE-L] Surname distribution site
    2. Hmm....the results I got showed "Pace" as English, not Norse. Which options did you select? Ellen At 09:41 18/01/2006 -0700, Brenda Howorko wrote: >Well the "corrupted" part is funny! Yes, a good site. Turns out my >name Brenda, which was Norse for "sword", was appropriate to Pace which >was also Norse. How cool is that! > >Brenda Howorko >Executive Assistant to the Deputy Minister >Alberta Energy >Ph: (780) 427-7727 >Fx: (780) 422-3920 > >-----Original Message----- >From: genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net >[mailto:genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net] >Sent: January 18, 2006 8:56 AM >To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACE-L] Surname distribution site > >A useful site has come online at >http://www.spatial-literacy.org/uclnames/. You can put in a surname >and get a map that shows the distribution of that surname in the UK >in 1881 or 1998. > >The surnames are also classified into categories. See the website >for explanation of categories. > >"Pace" is classified as English / Name of Person / Male Personal Name >/ Corrupted > >"Pacey" is classified as English / Norman / Norman / Norman > >Ellen > > >==== PACE Mailing List ==== >Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace >Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: >http://boards.ancestry.com > >This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which >it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and or >privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not >the intended recipients of this communication, and do not copy, >distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received >in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed.

    01/18/2006 11:18:50
    1. Surname distribution site
    2. A useful site has come online at http://www.spatial-literacy.org/uclnames/. You can put in a surname and get a map that shows the distribution of that surname in the UK in 1881 or 1998. The surnames are also classified into categories. See the website for explanation of categories. "Pace" is classified as English / Name of Person / Male Personal Name / Corrupted "Pacey" is classified as English / Norman / Norman / Norman Ellen

    01/18/2006 08:55:56