Oglethorpe Co. Gen Web http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/oglethorpe/bibles/p2000001.txt
We received this from a SHELTON List, and I thought it would be of interest to PACE descendants of Richard of Jamestown if you haven't heard about it. Wouldn't we like to see this tapestry depicting those lineages?!! Whether Richard was involved at that earliest time in the Colony would be interesting to know! Hildred is a leader in research on SHELTONs. Jane Shelton, President, Pace Society of America and descended from Amy Pace, m. Solomon Strickland 9/17/1764, through son Hardy Strickland, Hardy Jr., Jefferson Davis, and Ralph who d. 1961 Forwarded Message: Subj: Ralph Shelton, d. 1733 Middlesex County, Virginia Date: 4/12/2006 8:42:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: _at58@adelphia.net_ (mailto:at58@adelphia.net) To: _Knights5@aol.com_ (mailto:Knights5@aol.com) Sent from the Internet _(Details)_ (aolmsg://02982268/inethdr/3) Those of you who are descended from Ralph Shelton who died in 1733 in Middlesex County, Virginia, (or any other Virginia Shelton line) may be interested in this bit of world news which I doubt made headlines in the national press. This was reported in The Danville Register & Bee, on April 11, 2006. In an article entitled "Ceremonies mark 400th Anniversary of Charter" reported by the Associated Press from London, UK, was an account of a ceremony held in the Clothworkers Hall in which the 400th anniversary of the Virginia Charter was commemorated. "This charter began the first joint stock company in which people risked capital as well as their lives to travel around the world" stated the Lord Mayor of London, David Brewer. "At Monday's event (4-10-2006) British and American descendants of the original pioneers signed commemorative charters that had casts of the seal of King James, I, who created the document." The Virginia Company in 1606 sent out men who landed the following year along the James River at the site which was named "Jamestown"--the first permanent English settlement in North America. In 1619 the first representative government of the New Work met there [Note: this was called the "General Assembly", the name by which the legislative Houses of Virginia government is still known today.] " The Adventurers for Virginia group, based in Southwest England, displayed pieces of its New World Tapestry which depicts the lineage of the families who traveled to settle the colony as well as other well-known aspects of history. The tapestry, which took volunteers more than 20 years to complete, consists of 24 panels totaling 267 feet in length." "Tom Mor, the tapestry's designer, worked with historians to ensure all the depictions were accurate, particularly the family crests. Mor said his motivation for undertaking the project was his frustration with what he said was ''a piece of (British) history that had been forgotten or ignored" in Britain. Mor said he believes most people assume the Pilgrims who landed in Massachusetts in 1620 were the first to establish a colony the U.S. and that the tapestry will set the record straight." "An event Monday night was to include historical readings and musical performances and a look at the relationship between the U. S. and British legal systems, as well as the role of the London Livery Company in founding the Virginia Company." Hildred
I am descended from Jacqueline Pace Radcliff and John W. Radcliff. I have found a record of this marriage in <<J&D Distributing Catalogue, Utah>> at local library. Jacqueline and John had moved to GA by 1830-31. By 1840 Jacqueline was head of household and living in Talbot Co., GA. I have reached a dead end in trying to determine who the parents of either were. Can anyone help? I do know that Jacqueline was born in NC in 1808. I do not know anything about John.
From a Ware Family Geneology They were married in 1735 Who were her parents? I am also looking for a connection to a Ware Long of Caroline County, Va Long is my maiden name and my paternal side of my family is from Caroline C ounty,va Any connection between the Longs and Paces because of Ware Long would be a new twist to me.
Ethel Catherine Crowder Age 90 born abt. 1914 Death Date Feb/24/ 2004 persons mentioned in the obit: Andrew H.Pace, John McIlwaine Crowder; Catherine Connell Pace;Catherine Victoria Wiese; Abigail Leigh Pace; Jesse Kyle Pace, Joe Winfree; Margaret R. Perkins; John Russell Cumbea; Sally Connell Cumbea; Richard J. Wisese;Ann Leonard R. Perkins Locations mentioned: Virginia Beach, Cherryville, N.C Richmond, Va Chesterfield County, Va Are any of these people from the Fluvanna, Albemarle Pace line::??
New results have been posted for donor 55605, markers 26-37. They are 100% consistent with other 26-37 results for groupds 3a and 3b, further supporting the relationship between these two groups, which was at first denied by FTDNA but after further consideration the folks at FTDNA changes their minds and decided that the two groups are related. The Results chart (http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/results.htm ) page came up very slowly when I tested it. Are others having the same result? It may be time to split that page into sub-pages. Roy Johnson
I received the following info from David Sanford. I added this correction to the picture on PacePix. _____ From: Tatsalovr@aol.com [mailto:Tatsalovr@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:05 AM To: royj@webster.edu Subject: 1920 OK Census The 1920 OK Census for McCurtain Co shows Pace, OISAI, J. 59 and Virginia age 56. This is actually Alsa Jarvis Pace and his wife Virgenia Catherine Graham Pace. They moved from Atalla Co Mississippi to Oklahoma. Alsa bought a section of land there and moved all of his family, including adult children there. The George Pace listed there is Alsa's son. There is a 1915 photo in the Pace photo section taken at Alsa's home in Ms. I'm David Sanford, great grandson of Alsa Jarvis Pace, a descendant of Burrell Holland Pace.
I came across him on Ancestry.com posted by Kenneth Ruiz Anyone have any information on Appleberrys in va or Eng. Then we go to more Appleberrys in Virginia William Appleberry b. abt. 1724 , d. 1784 in va children were: Absolam Abraham Patsy m. Thurmond Betsy m. Bailey in Fluvanna William D. b. Albemarle Thomas d. Fluvanna James d. Fluvanna Margaret b. Albemarle Tabitha b. Albermarle John b 1774 in Albemarle later on:: Absolam Appleberry m. Malinda Noell in Fluvanna Rebecca A ppleberry m. Caleb Manley in Fluvanna Rebecca A ppleberry b. abt. 1815 in Fluvanna Rebecca Ann Appleberry m. Joseph Pace children were: Lucy A. Pace b. abt. 1834 Robert W.Pace b. abt. 1836 Martha Pace b. abt. 1838 Josiah Pace b. abt. 1839 John Pace b. abt. 1842 Thomas Pace b. abt. 1843 Mildred Pace b. abt. 1845 David Pace b. abt. 1848 Where are the descendents of the above in 1910 Robert W.Pace was living in the household of Andrew J. Faris in Fluvanna as a boarder Next door was my grandfather's brother James Llewllyn Pace- James married a Mary L. Dier on 12/24/1896 don't know what happened to her she was his third wife the first being a Sarah White, she is the wife mentioned in a deed about 1892 He was also married to a Lucy Pace, dau. of Wm. Moment Pace He had children with Lucy Pace, but can't find them
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Interesting new results posted from donor 55605 showing that this person is in group 3a but an interesting mutation in marker 23. Also, I made changes in the explanation of groups 3a and 3b. I became confused between the three Richards mentioned in the Winifred Aycock Lane letter (her father, grandfather, and great grandfather), and no one caught it and yelled at me. Please read the new explanations in the Results page and see if they make sense. For those who may be unfamiliar with the Lane letter: We have hard evidence that Richard of Jamestown had son George and grandson Richard, but here the paper trail vanishes. The only record we have of possible descendents was written in 1791 by an old lady, Winifred Aycock Lane, relying on her memory as told to her by her mother. She says her father was Richard and Grandfather was Richard, Jr., and that they came from Virginia in a place where "five counties meet". No such place has been found, but it is assumed (but not proven) that her great grandfather Richard was the aforementioned grandson of Richard of Jamestown. She gives the names of her grandfather's brothers. Those same names were found in North Carolina and assumed to be the brothers. DNA evidence supports that these Paces had a common ancestor within the necessary time span, thus supporting (but not proving) that they are brothers and could be descendents of Richard of Jamestown. In addition, the lone UK Pace in this group, whose ancestry is from London, matches closely enough to lead to the conclusion that the common ancestor was from London, as Richard of Jamestown was. To see three versions of the Lane letter and discussion, go to the Pace Network: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/documnts/aycock.htm Roy Johnson DNA coordinator
Going back in time, I have seen various spelling of the surname Pace, but most of these are just different phonetic renderings and would sound the same when spoken. Paca, on the other hand, would be pronounced with two syllables and just doesn't fit in with the other monosyllabic spellings of the name. I know nothing of the individuals being discussed, but I would use this significant pronunciation difference as a basis for doubting a connection between the surnames Pace and Paca. (Unless there was some conscious attempt to Anglicize the name Paca and make it sound more American, such as happened with a lot of Germanic surnames). I can accept Pacey or Pasey as more likely to be related to Pace since a person whose native tongue is one of the Latin languages (Portuguese, at least) would likely pronounce the name Pace with two syllables. Taking this pronunciation back to the written word might well result in the spellings of Pacey or Pasey. Just some observations based more on phonetics than on genealogy. Joe Anderson ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mr John Pace" <pjohndeb@verizon.net> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE-L] re: More on the Subject of William H Paca Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:59:06 -0500 James, I believe it was I who raised the question of William Pace being a member of the Continental Congress. Below are 2 website links which list William Pace from Maryland as being a member of the Congress. They both seem to use the same sources for that information. After posting my question about William some time ago, it was readily answered that William Paca was the member of the Congress and a signer of the Dec. of Independence. I studied the signatures in that document and it indeed appears to be Paca, not Pace. That was the end of my quest to link the Paces to that famous document and I must admit that I felt a little silly for asking the question to begin with. However, with your posting, I no longer feel quite so silly, since it seems that a definitive answer is unknown by more than just me. After all, wasn't there a William Pace in Washington's Honor Guard? John Pace
James, I believe it was I who raised the question of William Pace being a member of the Continental Congress. Below are 2 website links which list William Pace from Maryland as being a member of the Congress. They both seem to use the same sources for that information. After posting my question about William some time ago, it was readily answered that William Paca was the member of the Congress and a signer of the Dec. of Independence. I studied the signatures in that document and it indeed appears to be Paca, not Pace. That was the end of my quest to link the Paces to that famous document and I must admit that I felt a little silly for asking the question to begin with. However, with your posting, I no longer feel quite so silly, since it seems that a definitive answer is unknown by more than just me. After all, wasn't there a William Pace in Washington's Honor Guard? John Pace http://www.constitution.org/bcp/res_non-import.htm ¹ The Library of Congress, Journals of the Continental Congress ² Source: Prepared by Gerald Murphy (The Cleveland Free-Net - aa300) Distributed by the Cybercasting Services Division of the National Public Telecomputing Network (NPTN). Permission is hereby granted to download, reprint, and/or otherwise redistribute this file, provided appropriate point of origin credit is given to the preparer(s) and the National Public Telecomputing Network. ³ Source: The Constitutions of the Several And Independent States of America, American State Papers, printed for J. Stockdale, London, 1783 http://www.history.org/Almanack/life/politics/resolves.cfm ¹ The Library of Congress, Journals of the Continental Congress ² Source: Prepared by Gerald Murphy (The Cleveland Free-Net - aa300) Distributed by the Cybercasting Services Division of the National Public Telecomputing Network (NPTN). Permission is hereby granted to download, reprint, and/or otherwise redistribute this file, provided appropriate point of origin credit is given to the preparer(s) and the National Public Telecomputing Network. ³ Source: The Constitutions of the Several And Independent States of America, American State Papers, printed for J. Stockdale, London, 1783 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pace" <jrpace62@yahoo.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [PACE-L] re: More on the Subject of William H Paca > > > > > > Back in March 2003, on this web-site, questions were raised regarding > William H. Paca, signer of the Declaration of Independence. I suppose it > is the similarity in the names Paca and Pace that engendered the interest > in the Paca name. There is the question of whether the name Paca can be > related to Pace or more likely Pacey. It is shown below that a conclusive > answer to this question cannot now be given. > I am developing some family history or genealogies of individuals who are > connected to my direct line through cousins and/or their marriages. Such > information adds to the knowledge of the social and economic status of > ancestors, particularly if such relationships involve historical figures. > After all, even if one can place the dates of birth, death, marriage, and > perhaps a few deeds, still not much is really known about a said ancestor. > All of these results fit neatly into my genealogy data base. Thus, this > is the basis of my interest in the Pacas. > My great-grandmother, Mary Etta Lee, married James Hardy Pace (1860 - > 1954). James Lee (1704 - 1778) of Harford Co., MD was Mary's 2nd > great-grandfather. James's daughter Margaret Lee (1732 - Aft. Mar 30, > 1762) married John Paca, Jr. (Apr 14, 1725 - Bef. Feb 1758). John Paca, > the younger, was a cousin of William H. Paca, signer of the Declaration of > Independence. Margaret's grandfather was a Quaker, and Margaret, too, is > said to be a Quaker in the will of her husband, John. John's father, > Aquila Paca, was also a Quaker. The common ancestor of William and John > Jr. is Robert Paca, their great-grandfather. Robert Paca, of Anne Arundel > Co., is presumably the immigrant, although there is no record of him > having come into Maryland. Below I suggest a possible connection between > Robert and immigrants from Virginia. > Biographies of William Paca, the Signer, are available in many places. I > choose to quote from an early work given below: > Ref: Warfield, J. D., "The Founders of Anne Arundel and Howard Counties, > Maryland, A Genealogical and Biographical Review from wills, deeds, and > church records," Orig. Pub., Baltimore, 1905, reprinted, Baltimore, > Regional Pub. Co., 1967, pp. 235-237. > > "Under: BIOGRAPHIES OF THE FOUNDERS OF ANN ARUNDEL CO. > GOVERNOR WILLIAM PACA > > > > William Paca, signer of the Declaration and third Governor of Maryland > was born October 31, 1740, at "Wye Hall," Harford County, Maryland. He was > the second son of John Paca; Bachelor of Arts from a college in > Philadelphia in 1758, he was admitted to Middle Temple, London, after > which he studied law with Stephen Bordley. He was admitted to the bar in > 1764. Early in life he was sent to the Legislature, was a delegate to the > Continental Congress in 1774 - 1778, was appointed upon the Committee of > Correspondence in 1774, was in the Council of Safety in 1775. On August 2, > 1776, he affixed his signature tot he Declaration of Independence; on > August 17, 1776 was elected on the Committee "to prepare a declaration and > charter of rights and form a government for Maryland." Upon the > organization of the State he was elected to its first Senate. ....... > > ..... His wife was Mary Chew, daughter of Samuel and Henrietta Maria > (Lloyd) Chew." > Only one of William's children, John Philemon Paca, survived to > adulthood. His portrait shows an aristocratic personage. If he had > descendants, then they are eligible to join the Jamestown Society through > descent from John Chew, of Jamestown, York Co., VA and Anne Arundel Co., > MD. > J. D. Warfield, the author of the above selection probably belongs to the > family of Bessie Wallis Warfield, the Duchess of Windsor. I have a descent > for Wallis Warfield from John Dorsey (abt. 1619 - 1659) and Matthew Howard > (1609 - bef. 1659). John Dorsey, Matthew Howard, John Chew, possibly > William Paca's great-grandfather Robert, and others were religious > Dissenters, who around 1649 moved from Virginia to Anne Arundel Co. They > were Puritans and some Quakers. There they founded the town of Providence, > later renamed Annapolis. Robert Paca was a resident of Anne Arundel Co. > before about 1667. I have an interest in John Chew, John Dorsey and > Matthew Howard as they are in my ancestry through the Lee line. > > > There is a problem in Maryland genealogy. The ancestries of most of these > Puritan-Quaker founders remain a mystery. Numerous attempts have been made > to show noble or royal ancestry of Howard and Dorsey. The results are > ambiguous at best. It is ironic that numerous Americans, including me, > work hard to show their descent from the Plantagenet kings of England, > while Bessie Warfield Simpson worked her way into the Saxe-Coburg - > Windsor royalty by marrying King Edward VIII, and yet no one can show her > English ancestry. That is, the ancestry of Matthew Howard and John Dorsey > remain a mystery. The problem may be deeper than just a lack of > information. It may involve the political situation in Colonial Maryland, > the Irish question in Boston, the dark ominous clouds hanging over Europe > in the 30's and 40's, or even perhaps the Immigration reform bill now > stalled in Congress. So if Robert Paca, the immigrant, was among the group > of Dissidents from Virginia or elsewhere who settled > in Anne Arundel Co., MD, then tracing his ancestry will involve the same > problems that are involved the Dorsey/Darcy-Howard problems. > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Help this list grow - tell other Pace researchers about it. > Also, the Pace Society of America home page is located at: > http://www.pacesociety.org - check it out! > >
Back in March 2003, on this web-site, questions were raised regarding William H. Paca, signer of the Declaration of Independence. I suppose it is the similarity in the names Paca and Pace that engendered the interest in the Paca name. There is the question of whether the name Paca can be related to Pace or more likely Pacey. It is shown below that a conclusive answer to this question cannot now be given. I am developing some family history or genealogies of individuals who are connected to my direct line through cousins and/or their marriages. Such information adds to the knowledge of the social and economic status of ancestors, particularly if such relationships involve historical figures. After all, even if one can place the dates of birth, death, marriage, and perhaps a few deeds, still not much is really known about a said ancestor. All of these results fit neatly into my genealogy data base. Thus, this is the basis of my interest in the Pacas. My great-grandmother, Mary Etta Lee, married James Hardy Pace (1860 - 1954). James Lee (1704 - 1778) of Harford Co., MD was Marys 2nd great-grandfather. Jamess daughter Margaret Lee (1732 - Aft. Mar 30, 1762) married John Paca, Jr. (Apr 14, 1725 - Bef. Feb 1758). John Paca, the younger, was a cousin of William H. Paca, signer of the Declaration of Independence. Margarets grandfather was a Quaker, and Margaret, too, is said to be a Quaker in the will of her husband, John. Johns father, Aquila Paca, was also a Quaker. The common ancestor of William and John Jr. is Robert Paca, their great-grandfather. Robert Paca, of Anne Arundel Co., is presumably the immigrant, although there is no record of him having come into Maryland. Below I suggest a possible connection between Robert and immigrants from Virginia. Biographies of William Paca, the Signer, are available in many places. I choose to quote from an early work given below: Ref: Warfield, J. D., The Founders of Anne Arundel and Howard Counties, Maryland, A Genealogical and Biographical Review from wills, deeds, and church records, Orig. Pub., Baltimore, 1905, reprinted, Baltimore, Regional Pub. Co., 1967, pp. 235-237. Under: BIOGRAPHIES OF THE FOUNDERS OF ANN ARUNDEL CO. GOVERNOR WILLIAM PACA William Paca, signer of the Declaration and third Governor of Maryland was born October 31, 1740, at Wye Hall, Harford County, Maryland. He was the second son of John Paca; Bachelor of Arts from a college in Philadelphia in 1758, he was admitted to Middle Temple, London, after which he studied law with Stephen Bordley. He was admitted to the bar in 1764. Early in life he was sent to the Legislature, was a delegate to the Continental Congress in 1774 - 1778, was appointed upon the Committee of Correspondence in 1774, was in the Council of Safety in 1775. On August 2, 1776, he affixed his signature tot he Declaration of Independence; on August 17, 1776 was elected on the Committee to prepare a declaration and charter of rights and form a government for Maryland. Upon the organization of the State he was elected to its first Senate. ....... ..... His wife was Mary Chew, daughter of Samuel and Henrietta Maria (Lloyd) Chew. Only one of Williams children, John Philemon Paca, survived to adulthood. His portrait shows an aristocratic personage. If he had descendants, then they are eligible to join the Jamestown Society through descent from John Chew, of Jamestown, York Co., VA and Anne Arundel Co., MD. J. D. Warfield, the author of the above selection probably belongs to the family of Bessie Wallis Warfield, the Duchess of Windsor. I have a descent for Wallis Warfield from John Dorsey (abt. 1619 - 1659) and Matthew Howard (1609 - bef. 1659). John Dorsey, Matthew Howard, John Chew, possibly William Pacas great-grandfather Robert, and others were religious Dissenters, who around 1649 moved from Virginia to Anne Arundel Co. They were Puritans and some Quakers. There they founded the town of Providence, later renamed Annapolis. Robert Paca was a resident of Anne Arundel Co. before about 1667. I have an interest in John Chew, John Dorsey and Matthew Howard as they are in my ancestry through the Lee line. There is a problem in Maryland genealogy. The ancestries of most of these Puritan-Quaker founders remain a mystery. Numerous attempts have been made to show noble or royal ancestry of Howard and Dorsey. The results are ambiguous at best. It is ironic that numerous Americans, including me, work hard to show their descent from the Plantagenet kings of England, while Bessie Warfield Simpson worked her way into the Saxe-Coburg Windsor royalty by marrying King Edward VIII, and yet no one can show her English ancestry. That is, the ancestry of Matthew Howard and John Dorsey remain a mystery. The problem may be deeper than just a lack of information. It may involve the political situation in Colonial Maryland, the Irish question in Boston, the dark ominous clouds hanging over Europe in the 30's and 40's, or even perhaps the Immigration reform bill now stalled in Congress. So if Robert Paca, the immigrant, was among the group of Dissidents from Virginia or elsewhere who settled in Anne Arundel Co., MD, then tracing his ancestry will involve the same problems that are involved the Dorsey/Darcy-Howard problems. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
in 1860 she is age 21 living in Fluvanna with: Elizabeth Hughes age 60 Langston Mosby age 90 John B. Perkins age 40 Lucy T.Pace age 21 in 1880 she is in Charlottesville,Va with John B.Perkins b. 1820-hotelkeeper Lucy T.Pace(his cousin) housekeeper Susan White Lucy White Francis M. White( male) Dicy King-wife of Wm.Moment Pace was the daughter of Nancy White and Joab King Susan Mosby m. Henry Pace 1827 in Fluvanna Co. James L. Pace son of John R.Pace was first married to a Sarah White, the Lucy,dau. of Wm. Moment. and last Mary Dier. He is buried in the King cemetery in Fluvanna are there any other Pace, white,Perkins, connections out there?
The annual reunion of the Pace Society of America is fast approaching. We will gather on June 22-24, 2006 at the Radisson Hotel at 2330 West Northwest Hwy. in Dallas, TX. Registration at the hotel before April 26th is necessary to get the rates of the Pace Society of America. Register directly with the Radisson Hotel by calling 214-351-4477. For more information go to _www.pacesociety.org_ (http://www.pacesociety.org) We hope to see you in Dallas! Mira Pace Nelson, Treasurer Pace Society of America, Inc.
I hope this isn't an inappropriate submission, I have seen obituaries occasionally. This I found in my home town newspaper. --Linda Whitaker Disher, great granddaughter of A C Pace of Mississippi PACE, F. Virginia Age 81, beloved mother, mother-in-law, grandmother and friend, passed away March 29, 2006. Born July 22, 1924 in Cincinnati, OH, Virginia was the daughter of William and Florence Downs. Virginia graduated from Walnut Hills High School, Cincinnati. In 1944, she married Zachary Taylor Pace. After moving to Oxford in 1968, Virginia became an active member of Holy Trinity Episcopal Church, serving on the Peace and Justice Committee. She was a member of the Koinonia, a fellowship community seeking stronger faith patterned after the early Christian community. The Koinonia had a close affiliation with Holy Trinity Episcopal Church. Virginia was a longtime resident of Oxford View Nursing Center, now called Liberty Matrix. While living at the nursing center, Virginia's favorite activities were swimming at the community pool, attending classes at Miami University, gardening and spending time with her family. Virginia had many friends at the nursing center, both residents and staff. The Pace family would like to thank everyone at Liberty Matrix, and those from the former Oxford View, especially the nurses and nurse assistants who shared in the daily care of Virginia, many of whom she loved dearly. Virginia is survived by four sons, David (Toni) Pace of Naperville, IL, Leonard Pace (Pat Jones) of Ruidoso, NM, Steve (Sarah) Pace and Rob (Amy) Pace of Oxford; seven grandchildren, Carolyn, Andrew, Jennifer (Matt), Zack, Rebecca, Quintin and Morgan. Her husband Zachary Pace preceded her in death. In lieu of flowers, the Pace family requests memorials be made to Holy Trinity Episcopal Church, or to the Virginia Pace Memorial Fund, an organization of families formed to enhance the quality of life of all residents of Liberty Matrix c/o Fifth Third Bank, 19 N. Poplar St., Oxford. A memorial service will be held Friday, April 7 at 4:00pm at Holy Trinity Episcopal Church, 25 E. Walnut St., Oxford. Thanks are extended to Holy Trinity Episcopal Church and Smith and Ogle Funeral Home for assisting the family. Published in the Hamilton Journal-News from 4/5/2006 - 4/7/2006.
I have researched out this family as This Family also appears to do business in Harlan Co Ky and descendent also lived in Harlan Co Ky where my Pace's #13827lived and Edmund Pace b-1800 Descend also appear in Harlan Co Ky ....Edmund Paceb-1800 is s/o Stephen Pace thought to be possibly a son of John Pace & Sarah Brurge Edmund Pace b-1800 son John Pace b-1830 NC appears in Harlan Co ky for his first marriage in 1857 and Donor# 21419 descend from his 2nd marriage in 1866 Harlan co Ky to Joyce Shackleford Donor 20864 line reads like this: Wm Pace b-1837-m- November 01, 1855 Perry Co Ky Martha Estridge also there is a book on this family of Clay Co Ky, Harlan Co Ky, Perry Co Ky & Leslie Co Ky 1860 Cen Harlan Co Ky Harlan Courthouse P.O date 6th Aug HH 600 Pace William 21 born in Ky after his death Martha remarried to a Pennington they are on 1870 Cen Clay Co Ky Martha 21 NC Nee Estridge John 4 Ky Abner 3 Ky Nancy 1 Va so they were in Va for birth of this child prob Lee Co Va Hubbard, Burrell 14VA not sure how this boy is connected Wm Pace b-1837 s/o Charles Pace b-I have 1812 or 1815 from Census Died in Harlan Co Ky 1845 altho buried on his Farm which is on the line of Clay Co Ky and Harlan Co Ky.... Per Book PIONEER FAMILIES OF LESLIE CO KY by Sadie Stidham p-417-420 it says this Charles was s/o Robert Pace & Martha, I found her name was Martha Walker I found Charles Pace -m-Hannah Lewis 28 Dec 1831 Harlan Co Ky pg176/177 Line24 Hanah Lewis was d/o Hiram Lewis, Charles was s/o Robert Pace & Martha Walker...RobertPace & Martha Walker -m- 1812 Clay co Ky book of marriages .. Robert Pace s/o George Pace and another Sarah Walker b-1765-1770 March 1851 court Records Harlan Co Ky On motion of Hiram LEWIS and for cause shown he is appointed as guardian for Elizabeth PACE, Martha Ann PACE, Abner L. PACE, Eleanor PACE, and (William PACE the abv Wm Pace ) infant children of Charles PACE deceased whereupon the said Hiram LEWIS together with John G. CRUMP and William BLANTON executed bond to the Commonwealth in the penalty of $500 conditioned as the law directs. March 1852 Court Records Harlan Co Ky This day Samuel HOWARD Jr administrator of the estate of Robert PACE deceased filed the receipt of Hiram LEWIS guardian of the infant heirs of Charles PACE deceased amounting to the sum of $338.50 for which amount the said LEWIS is charged. Charles wife remarried her name was Hannah Lewis remarried Hugh Johnson in HC and they moved to Clay Co Ky Hannah Lewis Pace widow of Charles married Hugh M. Johnson on 20 Oct 1848 in Harlan Co Ky Book (A-180)- they are on the 1850 Cen in clay co Ky altho Children last names are noted as Johnson not Pace
DNA Donors that all lived in Harlan Co Kentucky and find this Strange so many appear here so some how I feel we are all related, but how my 13827 fits in with rest is sure a mystery to me... My Mary Polly Pace b-1765-1775 per Court Records estimated date of Birth by Judge d- after Nov 1845 and before the 1850 Census Care of her was given my Richmond Pace and the John Pace who went to Magoffin Co Ky I have filled in most of these families to prove up my Pace's #13827Mine from Oldest Son of Richmond Pace b-1803 his Mother was Polly Pace b-1765-1775who appears in 1820 Cen Harlan Co Ky and no proof of who her Husband was.my Marker 2 # does not match with 7791 Marker # 2 altho rest matches exactly shows I am related somehow to John Pace & Sarah Burge #53888 Descend from Richmond Pace by way of his youngest Son William Pace and this on matches exactly with my DNA 13827 #7791. I have no proof but think That Simeon Pace was younger bro of Richmond Pace ..show related somehow to John Pace & Sarah Burge We shall see what Marker #2 shows when ?? Pace get his DNA done he is in process of contacting for DNA Test as I write this, and he descends from My Richmond Pace by way of a younger son of Richmond Pace b-1803 #21419 Descend from John Pace b-1830 NC appears in Harlan Co Ky abt March 30-1847for his 1st Marriage on 1850 Cen he is s/o Edmond Pace b-1800 NC s/o Stephen Pace Possibly s/o John Pace & Sarah Burge #26541Descend from the abv Edmond Pace b-1800 NC some Edmond Pace's children and Grandchildren migrated back and forth between Lee Co Va and Harlan Co Ky Lee Co was adj to Harlan Co Ky by a Mountain and since no roads to speak of in Harlan Co Ky they walked paths or by horseback over the Mountain to get to & From Harlan Co Ky to Lee Co Va or Visa Versa .. #20864 Descends from Charles Pace b-1810-1815 This family first appear in Harlan Co Ky for marriage in 1831 I am not sure all his land was in Harlan Co Ky but if not was on the line of Clay Co & Harlan Co Ky he did most of his business in Harlan Co Ky, however some of His descends lived in Harlan Co Ky he is from Robert Pace of Clay, Leslie & Perry Co Ky s/o George Pace b-1752 yet he shows DNA wise related to the John Pace and Sarah Burge .. George Pace appears in Clay Co abt 1807which Clay Co Ky was formed around that time frame from Knox Co Ky More to follow on 20864 Line
Joe says: The only > other donor claiming descendency from Edmund or Edmond is 21419 I say: Although 21419 claims descent from Edmund, this is not the same Edmund. 21419 claims descent from Edmund who is thought to be the son of Stephen Pace. Donor 26541 claims descent from the older Edmund who is thought to be a son of John and Sarah of Surry. Another thought to keep in mind is that it is possible that the family of Richard and Elizabeth Pace of Nash Co could have moved to Surry Co after the death of John's brother Richard as the land sale of Thomas/Keziah/Elizabeth in Nash Co may suggest. If this is true, it may cloud the issue of which Paces in the land records of Surry are sons of John and Sarah and which ones are the sons of Richard and Elizabeth. As far as I am aware, the Stephen Pace mentioned above has not been identified positively as a son of John and Sarah. It is possible he was a son of Richard and Elizabeth. I agree that the results of testee 26541 seem to point toward a linking bridge between groups 3a and 3b; although, we need more tests to determine which generation mutated at marker #6. Encouraging results to say the least. John Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janders 45" <janders45@hotmail.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Re: New DNA results #26541 > Re: "Do they suggest he is NOT descended from the > claimed Edmund Pace, presumed son of John > Pace/Sarah Burgh?" > > I wouldn't draw that conclusion from the DNA evidence. To me, the results > suggest that 26541 is in fact related to Roy's group 3, but the details of > descendancy can't be determined from Y-chromosome testing. This donor > seems to bridge both of Roy's groups 3a and 3b in that he carries the 3b > allele (12) on marker 6, but he carries the 3a allele (29) on marker 21. > The only other donor claiming descendancy from Edmund or Edmond is 21419 > (Roy has them adjacent in the chart). These two are identical for Roy's > two differentiating markers (6 & 21), but they differ at marker 23. > > These markers do change over time (generations) via mutations. The nature > of mutations is that they are relatively rare, they occur at random and > they are unpredictable. That's why we can't use them to answer specific > questions relative to our family tree (such as the one that you phrased), > but we can use them to answer more general questions. But even these > answers are more properly given in terms of probabilities rather than > certainties. > > Joe Anderson > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "MAC" <olems@bellsouth.net> > Reply-To: "MAC" <olems@bellsouth.net> > To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACE-L] Re: New DNA results #26541 > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:58:01 -0500 > > Is anyone out there familiar enough with DNA > testing to explain what the new results for #26541 > mean? I have no idea how to interpret these > differences. > > Do they suggest he is NOT descended from the > claimed Edmund Pace, presumed son of John > Pace/Sarah Burgh? > > M.A. Causey > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:23 PM > Subject: [PACE-L] New results 26541 > > >>25 marker upgrade just posted on Results page >>for #26541. I re-organized >>the order of the listings to bring like results >>closer together; note >>interesting combinations in markers 6, 21, 23. >>I will leave it to members >>of those lines to sort out the meaning. >> >>http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/results.htm > >>Roy Johnson >>DNA coordinator > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > You can search archived messages from the Pace Mailing List by going to > http://searches.rootsweb.com. If you need instructions just ask me - > gordonpace@comcast.net > >
Oops I goofed #20864 does not Match exactly with 26541 Marker 6 shows a difference and in my brief knowledge a closer match to Donor 21419 who descends from a Edmund Pace b-1800 s/o Stephen Pace b-1757 who is supposedly a older Brother of Edmond Pace b-1764 who we think both descend from John Pace and Sarah Burge ..... I will be happy to ck out all Donor 20864 on Census and any other info I can find .. I have a lot of info Stored ...I do however need to know where to look .. I have at this point in time and for a short time ...Access to Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com, and Heritiage Quest.. and do know how to glean info from Sites where they lived I just need to know where to look or approx where, maybe it will turn up something.....If you are interested in more Documentation.. I love the search so will be happy to do it.. 1.. William Pace (1837-1862 where ? s/o 2.. Charles Pace b-abt.1810-1847 Where ? s/o 3.. Robert Pace b-abt 1785-1850 Where ? Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "darlene" <darlene@adweb.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re: New DNA results #26541 > Mac I don't know much abt the DNA .. Roy and Rebecca and a few others are > far more into reading it .. but I like to ck out the lines by Census to see > if I agree with what the Donor claim > But I do find it strange that 26541 donor MATCHES exactly with 20864 donor > which claims another line . > I know 26541 line is straight by Census records and Descends from your > Edmond Pace I believe, I will ck out 20864 by Census and see what I come up > with ... > > I also know #21419 matches real close to your 26541 Donor Which Descends > from Stephen Pace who is brother to your Edmond Pace & Sarah Walker who we > think descend from John Pace Sarah Burge .. I have cked out 21419 by Census > and other people notes and does prove to be possibly from John Pace & Sarah > Burge ...We are at a total loss at proving forsure who Children were of > John Pace and Sarah Burge other than Burrell Pace your Edmond by Bible > records and Letters and Burrell war report .. > > I will post to Pace mailing list Census an other info I find on Donor 20864 > Darlene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MAC" <olems@bellsouth.net> > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 2:58 PM > Subject: [PACE-L] Re: New DNA results #26541 > > > > Is anyone out there familiar enough with DNA > > testing to explain what the new results for #26541 > > mean? I have no idea how to interpret these > > differences. > > > > Do they suggest he is NOT descended from the > > claimed Edmund Pace, presumed son of John > > Pace/Sarah Burgh? > > > > M.A. Causey > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> > > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:23 PM > > Subject: [PACE-L] New results 26541 > > > > > > > 25 marker upgrade just posted on Results page > > > for #26541. I re-organized > > > the order of the listings to bring like results > > > closer together; note > > > interesting combinations in markers 6, 21, 23. > > > I will leave it to members > > > of those lines to sort out the meaning. > > > > > > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/results.htm > > > > > Roy Johnson > > > DNA coordinator > > > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1477 (20060408) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > __________ NOD32 1.1478 (20060409) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >