In the Columbia, TN paper today. http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/articles/2006/05/31/obituaries/07pace.txt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/352 - Release Date: 5/30/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/352 - Release Date: 5/30/2006

The Charlotte Public Library has added a database of death and marriage notices prior to 1900. The url is: http://www.cmstory.org/default.asp The only Pace I could find. Betty Pace Marriage Notice Pace, William H., Esquire and Heck, Mary Lou, Miss Groom's Hometown: Bride's Hometown: Source Date:10/25/1878 Source:Charlotte Democrat Notes: Date of event: 10/16/1878 Place of event: Raleigh, Wake County,NC Additional Family Information: Heck, J. M., Colonel (Father of the bride) () ______________________________

This Obit is son of Lillian Lillie Pace -m- Sampson Hensley d/o Stephen Pace and Sarah Dillman this is Descend from Edmond Pace NC of Claiborne Co Tn & of Lee Co Clifford Hensley, 77 ROSE HILL, Va. - Clifford Hensley, 77, passed away Monday, May 22, 2006, at Wellmont-Holston Valley. He lived most of his life in Lee County, Va., and was a member of Trinity Tabernacle of Rose Hill. He was preceded in death by his parents, Sampson and Lillie (Pace)Hensley; four brothers, Elmer, Millard, Cecil, and Leonard. Survivors include his wife, Shirley Hensley of Rose Hill; one son, Eddie Hensley of Rose Hill; seven daughters, Lois, Margie, Sheila, and Karen all of Elkins, W. Va., Valerie, Bangor, Maine, Penny, Pineville, and Megan, Rose Hill, Va.; one stepdaughter, Tonya, Rose Hill; one stepson, Vince, Petersburg, Ky.; several grandchildren and great-grandchildren; two brothers, Estel Hensley, and Rodney Hensley both of Rose Hill; four sisters, Gladys, N. C., Elsie, Jean and Jerlene, all of Rose Hill. Services will be conducted at 8 p.m. Thursday at Arney-Mullins Funeral Home, Rose Hill Chapel, with the Rev. Rodney Hensley officiating. Burial will be at 11 a.m. Friday, May 26, at Lee Memorial Garden Parker West Cemetery in Rose Hill. Those wishing to attend the burial will meet at the funeral home at 10 a.m. to go to the cemetery. The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday, May 25, at Arney-Mullins Funeral Home, Rose Hill, Va., which is in charge of arrangements.

Betty, how are you linked through John and Sarah Burge Pace. Which son or daughter? Julie

My brother took the Pace DNA test. He recently received the following message regarding the DNA project--showing a Tedford tie. I know of no Tedford connection to the Paces. I don't see how it could be in the male line of Paces. Does anyone know of such a link? We think we are linked to Richard I through John & Sarah Burge PACE. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- william.g.tilford@boeing.com wrote: > Dear David J. Pace, > > A Ysearch user has sent you a message regarding your Ysearch account. > Your User ID: M8PV7 > Your Last Name: Pace > > We have not disclosed your email address to the sender. Should you wish to > reply to this user, simply click Reply in your email program and an email > will automatically be addressed to the sender. The message contents > follow: > > Name: william g tilford jr > Email: william.g.tilford@boeing.com > Message: you have the same markers as the tedford project, did your > ancesters co from scotland (we are scotch irish) wonder where our > connection is. how far back did our paths cross. > > This email was sent to davidjpace@yahoo.com > >

Betty, While a kinship might actually exist, you need to keep in mind the possibility of "accidental" matches between essentially unrelated persons, especially for us R1b's. About half of Western European males fit into haplogroup R1b, with especially high concentrations in Scotland and Wales. With a population size that large, the possibility of accidental matches is real. Remember that mutations are random events. If mutations can cause lines to diverge over generations, they can also cause divergent lines to converge. I recently had my yDNA profiled, and I too found several exact matches (24 of 24) with people of difference surnames and little or no geographical congruence. My possible explanations are: 1. We do in fact share a common male ancestor, but he goes back to before the use of surnames. My ancestor was the son of Andrew and his descendents took the name Anderson. The other line descended from Andrew's brother Thomas, and they took the name Thomason. 2. Our most recent male ancestor lived 10,000 years ago; hence, we are essentially not related in any meaningful sense of the word. Over many generations, our lines accumulated different mutations, and their yDNA profiles might have been quite different at one point. But strictly by random chance, the progression of mutation ceased to cause a divergence but caused our Y chromosomes to become more similar. So, today, we have identical yDNA profiles by chance alone. That's my take on the situation. Joe Anderson ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE-L] Re TEDFORD LINE -- : Message from a ysearch user Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:04:43 -0400 My brother took the Pace DNA test. He recently received the following message regarding the DNA project--showing a Tedford tie. I know of no Tedford connection to the Paces. I don't see how it could be in the male line of Paces. Does anyone know of such a link? We think we are linked to Richard I through John & Sarah Burge PACE. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- william.g.tilford@boeing.com wrote: > Dear David J. Pace, > > A Ysearch user has sent you a message regarding your Ysearch account. > Your User ID: M8PV7 > Your Last Name: Pace > > We have not disclosed your email address to the sender. Should you wish to > reply to this user, simply click Reply in your email program and an email > will automatically be addressed to the sender. The message contents > follow: > > Name: william g tilford jr > Email: william.g.tilford@boeing.com > Message: you have the same markers as the tedford project, did your > ancesters co from scotland (we are scotch irish) wonder where our > connection is. how far back did our paths cross. > > This email was sent to davidjpace@yahoo.com > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace

Oops, I counted wrong, but it reinforces the conclusion. At 25 markers, the match between the Tedford line and the modal for Pace Group 3b is only 19/25 with one of the mismatches a 2-step differences. Definitely no match between the two families. Rebecca Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re TEDFORD LINE -- : Message from a ysearch user To: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com>, pace-l@rootsweb.com I just went and re-ran the Ysearch comparison. The results for your brother as posted on Ysearch (ID = M8PV7) include only 12 markers and include a mutation or change to 30 at DYS 389ii from the modal results of the rest of Group 3b. It really isn't possible to draw any kind of conclusion with only 12 markers and two different surnames - whether they match or not. Twelve markers is insufficient between different surnames and in many cases aren't enough when the surnames are the same to draw meaningful conclusions. In this case, if you compare the modal (most common) 12 marker results of Pace Group 3b with the posted Tedford results, the match is only 10/12. But if you compare the rest of the modal Pace Group 3b results up to 25 markers with the Tedford results, the "match" falls apart even more. That is, comparing the modal 25 marker Pace Group 3b results with the Tedford results (Ysearch ID 5NG75) the match is only 20/25 with one of the differences being a 2-step difference. So, there is no need to go looking for a Pace-Tedford connection at this point. The DNA suggests there is no connection. Rebecca Christensen "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> wrote: My brother took the Pace DNA test. He recently received the following message regarding the DNA project--showing a Tedford tie. I know of no Tedford connection to the Paces. I don't see how it could be in the male line of Paces. Does anyone know of such a link? We think we are linked to Richard I through John & Sarah Burge PACE. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- william.g.tilford@boeing.com wrote: > Dear David J. Pace, > > A Ysearch user has sent you a message regarding your Ysearch account. > Your User ID: M8PV7 > Your Last Name: Pace > > We have not disclosed your email address to the sender. Should you wish to > reply to this user, simply click Reply in your email program and an email > will automatically be addressed to the sender. The message contents > follow: > > Name: william g tilford jr > Email: william.g.tilford@boeing.com > Message: you have the same markers as the tedford project, did your > ancesters co from scotland (we are scotch irish) wonder where our > connection is. how far back did our paths cross. > > This email was sent to davidjpace@yahoo.com > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace

I just went and re-ran the Ysearch comparison. The results for your brother as posted on Ysearch (ID = M8PV7) include only 12 markers and include a mutation or change to 30 at DYS 389ii from the modal results of the rest of Group 3b. It really isn't possible to draw any kind of conclusion with only 12 markers and two different surnames - whether they match or not. Twelve markers is insufficient between different surnames and in many cases aren't enough when the surnames are the same to draw meaningful conclusions. In this case, if you compare the modal (most common) 12 marker results of Pace Group 3b with the posted Tedford results, the match is only 10/12. But if you compare the rest of the modal Pace Group 3b results up to 25 markers with the Tedford results, the "match" falls apart even more. That is, comparing the modal 25 marker Pace Group 3b results with the Tedford results (Ysearch ID 5NG75) the match is only 20/25 with one of the differences being a 2-step difference. So, there is no need to go looking for a Pace-Tedford connection at this point. The DNA suggests there is no connection. Rebecca Christensen "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> wrote: My brother took the Pace DNA test. He recently received the following message regarding the DNA project--showing a Tedford tie. I know of no Tedford connection to the Paces. I don't see how it could be in the male line of Paces. Does anyone know of such a link? We think we are linked to Richard I through John & Sarah Burge PACE. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- william.g.tilford@boeing.com wrote: > Dear David J. Pace, > > A Ysearch user has sent you a message regarding your Ysearch account. > Your User ID: M8PV7 > Your Last Name: Pace > > We have not disclosed your email address to the sender. Should you wish to > reply to this user, simply click Reply in your email program and an email > will automatically be addressed to the sender. The message contents > follow: > > Name: william g tilford jr > Email: william.g.tilford@boeing.com > Message: you have the same markers as the tedford project, did your > ancesters co from scotland (we are scotch irish) wonder where our > connection is. how far back did our paths cross. > > This email was sent to davidjpace@yahoo.com > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace

I need to change my email address Old address hduckett@aol.com New address _hduckett@gmail.com_ (mailto:hduckett@gmail.com) Thanks Harold Duckett

Frpm a list of marriages in Rockbridge County,Va posted by Louise M. Perkins June 1, 1876 Greensville R. Pace, 65,W b. Henry Co.Va, Lv. Danville, Va Tobacconist Son of John & Mary Pace m. Lucy R.Dix, 45, S, b. Henry co. Lv.Rockbridge Co, Dau. of Thomas & Lucy Dix Wm. K. Boyle , officiating married in Lexington Also came across a Ellen R.Pace b. 1876 in Rockbridge Co,Va Looking for any connection to Dix in Fluvanna and Albemarle County.

Darren if you can get to a Family History Center you may find a probate on Ashley L Pace Probate records on Film 1838-1888 Texas Probate Court Fannin Co to see if he notes a son John A Pace and what other Children names were I also found on Ancestry.com Name Araminta Davis -m- 20 Dec 1860 to Ashley L Pace married in Fannin Co Tx Texas marriage 1851-1900 also Ashley L Pace -m- 30 July 1856 Louisiana Gilbert in Fannin Co Tx " " " I have found several People Claiming info on Ashley L Pace Children but not one have noted any Documentation all say From Gedcom or Noble Pace info did not find much documentation tho, maybe Census, but that not enough , one person note Josephine age 12 female and Robt Pace age 11 in House hold of John Hampton HH wife Sister to Louisana on the 1870 Census which does not agree with the Jos or Jas Pace age 4 Male & Daug Mary 4/12 in Ashley L 1860 Cen one would think he would farm out a 4 month Baby girl Mary to someone else to feed her as they take so much Care rather than send if he had any other children away I have cked the 1860 Cen for a Robert Pace age 1 and a Josephine Pace age 2 none found but they magically appear in John Hampton HH in 1870 age 12 for Josephine and age 11 for Robert these are Children Bruce and some claim were Children of Ashley L Pace ... Too Bad we can't totally rely on Census but we do know they have error on them... So I for one don't know what to make of this ... as one could assume Children names on the 1860 Census of Ashlely L Pace were totally wrong and their names were not Jos and Mary and that thier names were Josaphine & Robert its a bit of stretch but possible with Census info being wrong at times..Mostly wrong on ages rather than names tho. occasionaly I have seen one reported as male when was female and one sure can't rely on ages Another possibility is for someone to get Death Records of Josephine O. Pace -Rogers to see who her father Was Death: 12 JAN 1944 in Fannin County Texas Bur: Willow Wild Cemetery Later Darlene

There is a possibility that a good tech. can get into your crashed hard drive and retrive data. Better set up a back up program. I have forgot my pass words too!!! Jack Pace On Sun, 14 May 2006 07:32:47 -0700 "val & jeff tice" <vtice12@comcast.net> writes: > My computer crashed a few days ago, and I ended up losing about six > months > worth of e-mails. I know several people had requested passwords & > usernames > for the Pace Society of America Database recently, and someone was > looking > for a text version of some of the records in the database which I > can do. > If you have sent me an e-mail recently that I have not responded to, > please > re-send it. > > My address book was also damaged, and I can not import it from > back-ups. So > I do not have addresses stored at this point. > > I apologize for the inconvenience. > > Val > Pace Society of America Historian & Archivist > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > May your every shot be long and down the middle. Jack Pace

Go to Google and type in Agnes Pace Ware you will be pleased with results. Jack Pace On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:37:11 -0400 "Lois Long Carey" <lcarey@bcpl.net> writes: > >From a Ware Family Geneology > They were married in 1735 > > Who were her parents? > I am also looking for a connection to a Ware Long > of Caroline County, Va > > Long is my maiden name and my paternal side of > my family is from Caroline C ounty,va > > Any connection between the Longs and Paces > because of Ware Long would be a new twist to me. > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace > > May your every shot be long and down the middle. Jack Pace

That Grayson was formed from Fannin Co Tx and they probaby didn't move the County lines moved apparently in Fannin or GraysonCo there were two Pace Cem and now are covered by a block of Cem what a Waste Do you have John a Pace's Death Cert? here is where you can go to get it http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/deathcert.shtm John A Pace reports 1900 Cen father born in Tn 1910 Cen father born in USA 1920 Cen father born in Ar What none of us know if John A Pace was a son of a Pace because this guy himself does not know where his father was born but he seem to finally Carry the Pace name but I think I would also Ck those Tn Pace's out but the fact DNA is not matching up make one wonder .. On 1893-1784 Sherman & Denison City Directory Cedarlawn Cem notes these Pace in it and think it Darren Family PACE J E [BOOTS] JAN 03,1920 DEC 04,2000 BORN DENISON, GRAYSON COUNTY, TEXAS. S/O- JOHN ASHLEY & GEORGIA MAE SCSALES PACE. WED RETHA M DODSON, NOVEMBER 09,1944 DENISON, GRAYSON COUNTY, TEXAS. PACE ZOLA M PASCHALL DEC 29,1904 MAR 27,1993 WED RAYMOND R PACE, MARCH 03,1923 SHERMAN, GRAYSON COUNTY, TEXAS PACE RAYMOND R JUL 11,1900 JUL 21,1950 BORN PARIS, LAMAR COUNTY, TEXAS. WED ZOLA M PASCHALL, MARCH 03,1923 SHERMAN, GRAYSON COUNTY, TEXAS. John A .Pace, Carp believe this means he was a Carpenter , residence 126 E Texas Mansey Pace, Condr M K & T, Boards 200 W Gandy Thomas Pace, Cotton Buyer, residence 312 W Main Wm L Pace, Piano & Organs 324 Main, residence 1024 W Chestnut ------ 1900 Census there is a J A Pace age in Lamar Co Paris with Wife Georgia shows married 3 years Here he reports his father was born in Tn so would say we might need to find a Pace in Tn 1910 Cen in GaysonCo age 49 Notes his parent born in USA wife Georgia age 29 she had 5 Children 5 living and married 13 years and they are a couple doors aways from Arminta Freeman and William B Freeman 1920 Cen Grayson Co Denison Ward 4 Dist 88 John A Pace age 49 on this Cens he notes born in Tx Md 13 years be married abt 1897and for his parent he notes only USA He was a clerk in Groc Store So he was not sure where parents were born on this Census or Whom ever reported info... 5 Child all born in Tx Francis not born yet 1920 Cen Grayson Co Dension Ward 6 Dist96 Jan 14 Hh 288 John A Pace age 58 b-abt 1862 Tx father born in Ar Mother in Al Georgia wife age38 Cem notes Name is Georgia Mae Scales 7 Children last one being Francis a son age 2 b-abt 1918 In the House hold is an Aunt Georgia Gaber age 72 Wd b-abt 1848 born in Tx f-Tn M-Ga not sure is she is John's Aunt or Georgia for it to be Georgia that might say in-law Aunt not sure how this would go but I am anxious to find out if there was a Georgia Sister to John A Pace's Father get to that eventually 1930 Census Grayson Co Dension Dist 29 Aprill 11 John A must be Deceased So should get his Death Record should be available Georgia is age 49 worth $1000 she was 17 year old when she married John A She is a Private Nurse Francis is age 12 years old and she had another son after Francis named John age 10 So we know John A was still alive for this .. Georgia must have been preg on the 1920 Cen I did find a A. L Pace Fannin co Bonham Twp age25 b- in Ar on the 1860 Census with no Wife Jos or Jas Pace age 4 Mary age 4/12 but this does not agree with What Bruce Howard says they had Joe Oliphant; Twitty; and Robert Lee Pace Unless they were already out of Hh and that doubtful if they married in 1856....There was also a J E Pace age 30 in same twp also born in Ark his wife was E Pace .. He maybe brother of A. L Pace I may also have the wrong A. L Pace 1870 Cen FanninCo Pct 2 lists Joe L Freeman age 32 Ariminta age 26 Ala Wm B age 2 John A age 8 which could well be John A Pace b-abt 1862 1880 Cen Grayson Co J. L Freeman age 41 Araminta age 36 John P age 18 Willie age 12 1900 Cen Araminta Freeman hh 291says she had 4 children 3 living she has with her 3 Grand children wonder if these were John A or the third child she had But the marriage for John Pace and Georga Is kinda late so he might h ave had a prev marriage Darlene

----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Bivins" <halbet@angus1841.com> To: "Joyce" <joy_harr@swbell.net> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Robert Mims m. Sarah Pace--question > Thanks, Joyce. > This Shadrack Mims is mine and the Nicholas Ware is an uncle. > Do you have a primary source or reference for the snip below? > " Shadrack Mims/Knowel [also Knowles] Pace: > Nicholas Ware, Edward Bond, Wm. Buckner Jenkins were witnesses to Knowel > Pace's will signed 1776 in Wilkes Co., GA. Nicholas Ware, Isaac Pery, > Shadrack Mims, Bazil Lamar, appointed appraisers" > > The Wm. Buckner Jenkins may be mine also but I have had difficulty in > tracking my Robert (Robbie) Jenkins family mainly because of misspellings. > Basil Lamar did a lot in Wilkes and Lincoln Co. Lincoln came from Wilkes > about 1796. > > The Buckner Pace connection to the Wm. Buckner Jenkins interests me also. > Does anyone else have any info on this man? > > thanks, > betty in ga > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce" <joy_harr@swbell.net> > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:19 AM > Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Robert Mims m. Sarah Pace > > >> Here's another Mims/Pace connections in case it jumps out to someone as a >> clue: >> >> Shadrack Mims/Knowel [also Knowles] Pace: >> Nicholas Ware, Edward Bond, Wm. Buckner Jenkins were witnesses to Knowel >> Pace's will signed 1776 in Wilkes Co., GA. Nicholas Ware, Isaac Pery, >> Shadrack Mims, Bazil Lamar, appointed appraisers. >> >> There was a Buckner Pace in Wake Co., NC. 1790 census and 1800 census. >> Not >> sure whether any connection to this Wm. Buckner Jenkins who also >> witnessed >> the earlier Pace will. >> >> - Joyce Harris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rebecca Christensen [mailto:rchristen@sbcglobal.net] >> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:54 AM >> To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Robert Mims m. Sarah Pace >> >> This past week I was helping proof a document transcription for the Pace >> Society document database that has a mention of a David Mimms. David >> Mimms was a purchaser at the Edgecombe Co., NC estate sale of William >> Pace >> recorded at the August 1748 court. >> >> I don't know if there is any connection at all as I have not studied the >> Mimms family. >> >> Rebecca Christensen >> >> Lois Long Carey <lcarey@bcpl.net> wrote: >> Someone asked me about a Robert Mims who >> married Sarah Pace >> >> on the Mims GenForum#1497 is a long post about >> the Mims family which starts with a Thomas Mims >> b.abt. 1600 and died in Va. >> One of his descendents was a Robert Mims,son >> of Lionel Mims who was born abt.1685 in >> St.Peter's Parish, New Kent, Virginia and >> died about 1732 in Bertie County, North Carolina >> Also mentioned is a Benjamin Mims , b .before >> June 13, 1710 in New Kent County. >> He mentioned Judith Woodson. >> The Woodson family was later in Goochland, >> and Fluvanna Counties and married into >> the Pace families. >> So maybe someone can find who this >> Sarah Pace, wife of Robert Mims is >> by tracing the Mims family into North Carolina >> >> >> ==== PACE Mailing List ==== >> To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list >> (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, >> reply >> to sender. >> >> >> >> >> ==== PACE Mailing List ==== >> Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace >> Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: >> http://boards.ancestry.com >> >> >> >> >> ==== PACE Mailing List ==== >> Help this list grow - tell other Pace researchers about it. >> Also, the Pace Society of America home page is located at: >> http://www.pacesociety.org - check it out! >> >> >> >

Here's another Mims/Pace connections in case it jumps out to someone as a clue: Shadrack Mims/Knowel [also Knowles] Pace: Nicholas Ware, Edward Bond, Wm. Buckner Jenkins were witnesses to Knowel Pace's will signed 1776 in Wilkes Co., GA. Nicholas Ware, Isaac Pery, Shadrack Mims, Bazil Lamar, appointed appraisers. There was a Buckner Pace in Wake Co., NC. 1790 census and 1800 census. Not sure whether any connection to this Wm. Buckner Jenkins who also witnessed the earlier Pace will. - Joyce Harris -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca Christensen [mailto:rchristen@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:54 AM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Robert Mims m. Sarah Pace This past week I was helping proof a document transcription for the Pace Society document database that has a mention of a David Mimms. David Mimms was a purchaser at the Edgecombe Co., NC estate sale of William Pace recorded at the August 1748 court. I don't know if there is any connection at all as I have not studied the Mimms family. Rebecca Christensen Lois Long Carey <lcarey@bcpl.net> wrote: Someone asked me about a Robert Mims who married Sarah Pace on the Mims GenForum#1497 is a long post about the Mims family which starts with a Thomas Mims b.abt. 1600 and died in Va. One of his descendents was a Robert Mims,son of Lionel Mims who was born abt.1685 in St.Peter's Parish, New Kent, Virginia and died about 1732 in Bertie County, North Carolina Also mentioned is a Benjamin Mims , b .before June 13, 1710 in New Kent County. He mentioned Judith Woodson. The Woodson family was later in Goochland, and Fluvanna Counties and married into the Pace families. So maybe someone can find who this Sarah Pace, wife of Robert Mims is by tracing the Mims family into North Carolina ==== PACE Mailing List ==== To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply to sender. ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com

One Nicholas Pace was listed in Maryland records, as a juror at the courthouse in the town of Chester, Kent Co., MD in August 1732. (See Archives of Maryland online for transcription and .tif image of the page: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/000001/ 000567/html/am567--309.html Who does this Nicholas Pace connect with? - Joyce

I forgot that forwarding doesn't work well on the list so here is my comment again. Julie I don't have my notes in front of me but I believe that this is the other Pace family that is in Fannin Co. that I have seen inquiries for years about. My David W. Pace son of Ruel, son of David and Elizabeth Rose was also in Fannin Co. TX. In my letters from J.K. Street during the Civil War, he writes to his wife on Friday Feb. 20th 1863 "Dear you remember that Miss M.E. Pace who used to get your letters "by mistake"? She is now Mrs. M.E. Finney. I have formed the acquaintance of her husband - he belongs to the 15th Tex, Bennett's old company from Lamar, he is a Baptist preacher and chaplain of the 15th - he is a fine man - unlike our chaplain, he dresses like the rest of us - takes his gun and goes into every fight - he is well beliked by all his company - infact he has won the admiration of the whole Brigd. He frequently comes to my tent and we pass the time very pleasantly. We were speaking the other day of the fact of us both having married ladies of the same name - dame initials- and uet in no ways related. They were married about a month after we were dear. The reason you never got any of his letters to her "by mistake" - she told him to address her letters to Mitch Mcquistan for reasons that she would afterwards explain." I don't know that this will help anyone right now but somewhere down the line it might. My Melinda Elizabeth Pace was living with Sion and Martha Pace along with her brother David and sister Eugenia. David then moved to Fannin Co. and so there were I believe TWO David Pace's then in Fannin Co. My David was married to Mary. I hope this helps someone out there. Julie

Here's some of what I have in no certain order. I didn't transcribe every census record but mentioned them below. I'll keep looking into this family until I've exhausted all known avenues. Thanks in advance for any info someone might have. Known with no uncertainty: My Father: Francis W. Pace Grandfather: Francis B. Pace G-Grandfather John A. Pace (A. is Ashly or Ashley) Ashley L. Pace b. 12 Dec 1834, Pope County, AR; d. 7 Feb 1863, Dennison, Grayson, TX. Ashley m. Araminta Davis 20 Dec 1860, Fannin County, TX. Araminta b. Nov 1844, Alabama Marriage Index: Texas, 1851-1900 Married: Dec 20, 1860 in: Fannin, TX Gender: M Source info: microfilm reference numbers File name: 1293827 ite ms 3 through 4; and 1293828 Spouse's gender: F Spouse's name: Davis, Araminta I have 2 living relatives (both over 90 yrs. old, one is my grandmother, wife of Francis B. Pace) who tell me that John A. Paces father was (an) Ashley Pace. Ashley and John A. do not appear together on any census records, because John was born in 1861 and Ashley died in 1863 before the next census in 1870. No birth records have been found for John A. Pace. I'm told there was a fire in the courthouse in the county which destroyed alot of records. Araminta marries to Joseph L. Freeman after Ashley dies. This was posted by Donna Rogers on her website: Dear Donna, How are you? We are kin folks, which I am sure you know. I can't tell you a great deal about Robert Lee Pace. Miss Ruby Mae Jones and I worked on him for a long time, but he was very elusive. He moved about a lot and was married several times and divorced several times. He married once or twice in Indian Territory during the 1880's, and finally in 1893 he came back to Fannin County and married Miss Sally Webb. She was the only wife to stick with him. They had a couple of boys: Marvin Albert Pace and Robert Allen Pace. When he and Sally moved to Yuma, Arizona, one of these boys remained in Fannin County. I don't know which one now, married and had a family. Ashley and wife, Louisiana, had three children before her death: Joe Oliphant; Twitty; and Robert Lee Pace. Ashley remarried after the death of his wife to Miss Araminta Davis of Fannin County, and by her had one son: John Ashley Pace. Ashley died in Fannin County on February 7, 1863. His son Twitty was the only one of his children who did not survive. Best wishes, Bruce Howard I have numerous census records listing John A. Pace either in the same household with Araminta as a child (after she married to Freeman), or living very near her after he was grown and married (they appear one after the other on the same census sheet). His mother on the 1920 census for him list her as born in Alabama and father born in Arkansas which is where Araminta and Ashley were believed to be born. My biggest gap for actual evidence is the John A. Pace is son of Ashley L. Pace piece. IF all of the above is for certain, then we come to why my DNA test does not match any of the others that have been posted. I had thought maybe there was more than one Araminta or Ashley in that area at the time and maybe I was on the wrong track, or John was an illegitimate child from Araminta and some unknown person. The only thing that keeps me confused is Bruce's letter to Donna above. I am very curious about the information he has which supports what he is saying. That would lead me to believe that my family line is correct to Ashley L. Pace and that he is either not the son of Twitty Pace as believed, or Twitty is not the son of John Pace and Ann Russell (which I think has already been proven). Very puzzeling to say the least. I'll keep looking for any evidence and post up if I find anything... but it could take awhile :-P Thanks, Darren

Here's some of what I have in no certain order. I didn't transcribe every census record but mentioned them below. I'll keep looking into this family until I've exhausted all known avenues. Thanks in advance for any info someone might have. Known with no uncertainty: My Father: Francis W. Pace Grandfather: Francis B. Pace G-Grandfather John A. Pace (A. is Ashly or Ashley) Ashley L. Pace b. 12 Dec 1834, Pope County, AR; d. 7 Feb 1863, Dennison, Grayson, TX. Ashley m. Araminta Davis 20 Dec 1860, Fannin County, TX. Araminta b. Nov 1844, Alabama Marriage Index: Texas, 1851-1900 Married: Dec 20, 1860 in: Fannin, TX Gender: M Source info: microfilm reference numbers File name: 1293827 ite ms 3 through 4; and 1293828 Spouse's gender: F Spouse's name: Davis, Araminta I have 2 living relatives (both over 90 yrs. old, one is my grandmother, wife of Francis B. Pace) who tell me that John A. Paces father was (an) Ashley Pace. Ashley and John A. do not appear together on any census records, because John was born in 1861 and Ashley died in 1863 before the next census in 1870. No birth records have been found for John A. Pace. I'm told there was a fire in the courthouse in the county which destroyed alot of records. Araminta marries to Joseph L. Freeman after Ashley dies. This was posted by Donna Rogers on her website: Dear Donna, How are you? We are kin folks, which I am sure you know. I can't tell you a great deal about Robert Lee Pace. Miss Ruby Mae Jones and I worked on him for a long time, but he was very elusive. He moved about a lot and was married several times and divorced several times. He married once or twice in Indian Territory during the 1880's, and finally in 1893 he came back to Fannin County and married Miss Sally Webb. She was the only wife to stick with him. They had a couple of boys: Marvin Albert Pace and Robert Allen Pace. When he and Sally moved to Yuma, Arizona, one of these boys remained in Fannin County. I don't know which one now, married and had a family. Ashley and wife, Louisiana, had three children before her death: Joe Oliphant; Twitty; and Robert Lee Pace. Ashley remarried after the death of his wife to Miss Araminta Davis of Fannin County, and by her had one son: John Ashley Pace. Ashley died in Fannin County on February 7, 1863. His son Twitty was the only one of his children who did not survive. Best wishes, Bruce Howard I have numerous census records listing John A. Pace either in the same household with Araminta as a child (after she married to Freeman), or living very near her after he was grown and married (they appear one after the other on the same census sheet). His mother on the 1920 census for him list her as born in Alabama and father born in Arkansas which is where Araminta and Ashley were believed to be born. My biggest gap for actual evidence is the John A. Pace is son of Ashley L. Pace piece. IF all of the above is for certain, then we come to why my DNA test does not match any of the others that have been posted. I had thought maybe there was more than one Araminta or Ashley in that area at the time and maybe I was on the wrong track, or John was an illegitimate child from Araminta and some unknown person. The only thing that keeps me confused is Bruce's letter to Donna above. I am very curious about the information he has which supports what he is saying. That would lead me to believe that my family line is correct to Ashley L. Pace and that he is either not the son of Twitty Pace as believed, or Twitty is not the son of John Pace and Ann Russell (which I think has already been proven). Very puzzeling to say the least. I'll keep looking for any evidence and post up if I find anything... but it could take awhile :-P Thanks, Darren