RootsWeb.com Mailing Lists
Previous Page      Next Page
Total: 7140/10000
    1. Sarah Maycock
    2. In a message dated 6/16/2006 9:36:45 AM Central Standard Time, gnlgy458@yahoo.co.uk writes: I too still think it's more likely to have been young Sarah who married George. Only my opinion, though, and I am far from sure. Kathlynn comments: FWIW: I'm back with this original discernment too, I think the document of 1626 is our best hope of solving it. Two questions that need expert answers: 1. The heir is referred to as "Sara Maycock" with no title. Can one draw any reliable conclusion from this as to whether she was the child or the widow? Kathlynn comments: Remember we also have one claiming the name is "Mrs Samuel Maycock"....right? 2. Can we reliably conclude that the person mentioned as due the 200 acres must by law have been a grownup, or is it possible she could have been a child? Kathlynn comments: Is it possible, if it was minor child, the original does have a guardian/representative named and the original extractor, whoever or whenever or wherever and for whatever reason, could have simply failed to include it??? Redundant...but I agree with you ....the only way we can have this answer is to find and get a copy of the whole original document. I've tried, albeit, my browse/search skills leave a lot to be desired. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT HOW WE CAN CAN GO ABOUT FINDING/OBTAINING IT? Solid answers to one or both these questions might, taken together, tell us who married George Pace. Kathlynn comments: AGREE!

    06/17/2006 07:29:56
    1. Re: Mingus Pace
    2. Who was Mingus Pace? I would like to know his PACE line. Addie

    06/16/2006 11:03:14
    1. Re: PACE-D Digest V06 #88
    2. I am a descendant of Murray Pace through son John who married Mary "Polly" Groom. Does anyone have a proven line for Mary? Someone suggested a Robert in her line, but I've never gotten a definite answer for her father/mother. > X-Message: #3 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:24:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: lew977MitziA <lew977@yahoo.com> > Subject: Kentucky Murray/Murry Pace lines? > > Is anyone researching the Murray Pace lines still? All I see in the > recent past regard the Richard/Isabel lines or unknown lines. > Mitzi

    06/16/2006 07:29:50
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. gnlgy458
    3. I too still think it's more likely to have been young Sarah who married George. Only my opinion, though, and I am far from sure. I think the document of 1626 is our best hope of solving it. Two questions that need expert answers: 1. The heir is referred to as "Sara Maycock" with no title. Can one draw any reliable conclusion from this as to whether she was the child or the widow? 2. Can we reliably conclude that the person mentioned as due the 200 acres must by law have been a grownup, or is it possible she could have been a child? Solid answers to one or both these questions might, taken together, tell us who married George Pace. I don't think it's cluttering up the list to discuss these questions. Isn't it what the list is for? Personally, I'd like to hear more people's opinions about it. Ellen --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.

    06/16/2006 09:36:14
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. Quoting gnlgy458 <gnlgy458@yahoo.co.uk> > I too still think it's more likely to have been young Sarah who > married George. Only my opinion, though, and I am far from sure. > > I think the document of 1626 is our best hope of solving it. Two > questions that need expert answers: > > 1. The heir is referred to as "Sara Maycock" with no title. Can > one draw any reliable conclusion from this as to whether she was the > child or the widow? > > 2. Can we reliably conclude that the person mentioned as due the > 200 acres must by law have been a grownup, or is it possible she > could have been a child? > > Solid answers to one or both these questions might, taken together, > tell us who married George Pace. > > I don't think it's cluttering up the list to discuss these > questions. Isn't it what the list is for? Personally, I'd like to > hear more people's opinions about it. > > Ellen Discussion of genealogy is exactly what it's for, and this is definitely that... Not enough facts presented so far as to which Sara/h for me to offer an opinion. However, in keeping with this thread I wanted to address the following: ----- Forwarded message from olems@bellsouth.net ----- Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:13:16 -0500 From: MAC <olems@bellsouth.net> In the Records of the Virginia Company I found an order by the Governor of Virginia dated 4 March 1622 in which is noted the "treachery of the Indians on the 22nd day of March last". This would place the date of the massacre as 22 March 1621 (Julian), rather than 1622, and could be written today as 1621/22. ----------------------------------------------------- I believe he is refering to the entry: CCXCII 417 Governor in Virginia. Order to Keep the 22d of March Holy. March 4, 1622/3. ------------------------------------------------------ The generally accepted explanation of the dating ssytem referred to can be found at http://www.dome-igm.com/convers.htm Translation, March 4, 1622/23 would have been the year 1623 Gregorian, OR the year 1622 Julian, which would not have ended until March 25th (1623) so, i would conclude that the previous March 21st would have been March 21, 1621/22 OR, 1622 Gregorian.

    06/16/2006 08:50:50
    1. Samuel Maycock
    2. gnlgy458
    3. Can anybody tell me if there is proof positive (not just based on "Alumni Cantabrigiensis") that Samuel Maycock who appears in the parish records of Yelvertoft, Northamptonshire is the same person as Samuel Maycock of Virginia? Ellen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 7p a photo.

    06/16/2006 06:53:22
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. gnlgy458
    3. Oh yes, sorry, I jumped to the conclusion (tssk) that the "image" button was for an image of the original, but it's just an image of the transcript page. I can't see how it's possible to solve the Sarah Maycock question through the dates and the single record of young Sarah's age. The known dates don't seem to rule out either Sarah Maycock (Samuel's daughter) or Mrs Sarah Maycock (Samuel's widow). Ellen MAC <olems@bellsouth.net> wrote: Thank you, Ellen, for the URL. In the Records of the Virginia Company I found an order by the Governor of Virginia dated 4 March 1622 in which is noted the "treachery of the Indians on the 22nd day of March last". This would place the date of the massacre as 22 March 1621 (Julian), rather than 1622, and could be written today as 1621/22. This is a transcript, but I doubt entire dates would have been miscopied twice (the date of the document and date of the massacre). This hasn't solved the Maycock question, but at least we should now all be starting with the correct date of the massacre. This paper can be found in: The Thomas Jefferson Papers Series 8. Virginia Records Manuscripts. 1606-1737. Susan Myra Kingsbury, editor. Records of the Virginia Company, 1606-26, Volume IV: Miscellaneous Records. (It is image 58) M. A. Causey ----- Original Message ----- From: "gnlgy458" To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur? > You can see both transcripts and images of many > of the original records, in the Thomas Jefferson > collection, which has been digitized. See > http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/vc04.html > for table of contents for Vol. IV. > > Ellen ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine

    06/16/2006 05:08:21
    1. Bible record of Richard Pace of Va to Bertie NC notes George Pace -m- Sarah Maycock
    2. darlene
    3. I think W. James Pace bring up a valuable claim in his message below as to Widow of Samuel Maycock, also in Pace archives Carolyn wrote this :Sent to Pace List Archives: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:27 PM She says she wrote Colonial Dames and they show with absolute Certain "George Pace -m- Sarah Maycock d/o Samuel Maycock " at one time info was submitted and not questioned but I think they have cleaned up their records and make people show Documentation. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgibin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/P/PACE+2002+165287479+F I also believe we go by Bible records as proof ... Right? Well then go to this site and you will see a Bible record showing George Pace -m- Sarah Maycock d/o Samuel Maycock, or are we going to question this Richard Pace Bible record ? http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/bibles/p2000001.txt I know we all like to see the actual Document and guess one Can get it by Microfilm at the Georgia Archives, Drawer 91, Roll 62 My opinion we show far to many reference that George Pace -m- Sarah Maycock d/o Samuel Maycock, for it not to be so..... Also not too long ago someone on Pace mailing wanted some kind of proof the Richard Pace of Bertie Co NC was the one in Virgina this Bible record also note he went to Bertie Co NC Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <pace3637@nc.rr.com> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur? > Hello: > You are correct Ellen; the dates do not solve the question of which Sarah (Sara) narried George Pace. I doubt we will ever know. But it is hard for me to believe that the widow would remain unmarried for all those years (12-14?) until young George was of marriagable age. It would not be unusual today, but think of how things were in that time and place. Someone suggested that the widow returned to England for a time. Why did the daughter remain behind living with another family? Can you picture the widow remainig unmarried in England and then returning to marry George? Other opinions are just as valid as mine, but that is all they are-opinions. > Please forgive me! I promise not to clutter up the List with any more comments on this matter. > W. James Pace >

    06/16/2006 04:02:27
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. Hello: You are correct Ellen; the dates do not solve the question of which Sarah (Sara) narried George Pace. I doubt we will ever know. But it is hard for me to believe that the widow would remain unmarried for all those years (12-14?) until young George was of marriagable age. It would not be unusual today, but think of how things were in that time and place. Someone suggested that the widow returned to England for a time. Why did the daughter remain behind living with another family? Can you picture the widow remainig unmarried in England and then returning to marry George? Other opinions are just as valid as mine, but that is all they are-opinions. Please forgive me! I promise not to clutter up the List with any more comments on this matter. W. James Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: gnlgy458 <gnlgy458@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:17 am Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur? To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com > Oh yes, sorry, I jumped to the conclusion (tssk) that the "image" > button was for an image of the original, but it's just an image of > the transcript page. > > I can't see how it's possible to solve the Sarah Maycock > question through the dates and the single record of young Sarah's > age. The known dates don't seem to rule out either Sarah Maycock > (Samuel's daughter) or Mrs Sarah Maycock (Samuel's widow). > > Ellen > > MAC <olems@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you, Ellen, for the URL. > > In the Records of the Virginia Company I found an > order by the Governor of Virginia dated 4 March > 1622 in which is noted the "treachery of the > Indians on the 22nd day of March last". This would > place the date of the massacre as 22 March 1621 > (Julian), rather than 1622, and could be written > today as 1621/22. > > This is a transcript, but I doubt entire dates > would have been miscopied twice (the date of the > document and date of the massacre). This hasn't > solved the Maycock question, but at least we > should now all be starting with the correct date > of the massacre. > > This paper can be found in: The Thomas Jefferson > Papers Series 8. Virginia Records Manuscripts. > 1606-1737. Susan Myra Kingsbury, editor. Records > of the Virginia Company, 1606-26, Volume IV: > Miscellaneous Records. (It is image 58) > > M. A. Causey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gnlgy458" > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What > year did it occur? > > > > You can see both transcripts and images of many > > of the original records, in the Thomas Jefferson > > collection, which has been digitized. See > > http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/vc04.html > > for table of contents for Vol. IV. > > > > Ellen > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse > Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark > this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com > > > > > --------------------------------- > All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its > simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > You can search archived messages from the Pace Mailing List by > going to http://searches.rootsweb.com. If you need instructions > just ask me - gordonpace@comcast.net >

    06/16/2006 03:51:26
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Factual date of Jamestown Massacre =Sarah's born date est.
    2. Whoops! My previous email was sent before the other msgs. were received....Sorry, I see that others had already sent the information. Be sure to check my discernment for Sarah's born date estimate....now I'm not sure I did it right.....let me know what you think?

    06/16/2006 03:40:11
    1. Factual date of Jamestown Massacre =Sarah's born date est.
    2. Maximize screen before reading/printing and hopefully it will put it back in proper format. March 22, 1621 [factual date of the Jamestown Indian Massacre: [Note: Following Order written March 4, 1622...Massacre occurred March 22, 1621 - From The Thomas Jefferson Papers Series 8. Virginia Records Manuscripts. 1606-1737. Susan Myra Kingsbury, editor. Records of the Virginia Company, 1606-26, Volume IV: Miscellaneous Records, Image 58 - page 40 found on The Library Of Congress web site _http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mtj8&fileName=mtj8pagevc04.db&recNum=57_ (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mtj8&fileName=mtj8pagevc04.db&recNum=57) By the Governor and Capt generall of Virginia A warrant for Keepinge Holy the 22th of March In consideration of Gods most mercifull deliu9ance (sic) of so many in this Countrie of Virginia from the treachery of the Indians on the 22th day of March last: The Governor with the advice of the Counsell of State hath thought it very fitt, that the 22th day of March both this present yeare and for ever herafter (in memory of that great preservation) be in this Countrie celebrated Holy: And therefore doth straightly charg and Comand, Capt Willm Tuckar, that he, and all other that are any way under his charge, do keep that day holy, spending the same in prayer thanksgiveing to God, and other holy exercises; not suffering any of them to worke, as he will answer the contrary at his perill. Given at James Citie the 4th day of March 1622. The like (mutatis mutandis) to the Comander of each Plantation." Francis Wyatt Facts: 1. The Old Julian Calendar dates were used during this time frame when the year bagan on March 25 and continued through March 25 of the following year.........until the current January to January began in 1752 when the Gregorian Calendar was adopted. 2. Volume year dates such as March 5, 1623/24 offer both the Old Julian year date and the New Gregorian year date. 3. A child born 24 March 1622 would be only one day older than one born 25 March 1623. 4. March 22, 1621 or March 22, 1621/22 is the date that must be used for the ones that were killed in the massacre in order to make other documents fit. Example father Samuel Maycock's death date and daughter Sarah at age 2 on 1624/25 muster = Samuel died March 22, 1621 [or 1621/22] and Sarah born bet. March 26,1621 - March 26,1623. CHECK ME OUT ON SARAH'S BORN DATE ESTIMATE...I'M IN A HURRY [have to get ready to go to work]. CORRECTIONS REQUESTED?

    06/16/2006 03:32:01
    1. Schedule for 2006 Reunion
    2. Here is the schedule for the 2006 Reunion in Dallas. Mira Pace Nelson PACE SOCIETY OF AMERICA, INC. ANNUAL MEETING June 22-24, 2006 Radisson Hotel & Suites Dallas, Texas Annual Meeting – Schedule of Events 2006 Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:00 – 5:30 pm Sign in at registration table – Bentley Room (near elevator) 3:00 p.m. Official hotel room check-in time 3:00 – 5:30 pm Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open 4:30 – 6:30 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 5:45 pm Group photograph of members – pool area 7:00 pm Dinner – (yellow ticket) - King George III dining room Music by Billy Jack Davis Dinner meeting of the membership Speaker: Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck, Genealogist & Librarian Friday, June 23, 2006 Breakfast and lunch on your own 9:00 am – 6:30 pm Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open Pace Publications available for purchase Sharing of family information and records OR Sight-seeing – on your own Dallas or Fort Worth library – on your own National Archives (NARA) in Fort Worth – on your own 4:30 – 6:15 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 6:45 pm Dinner – (pink ticket) - King George III dining room Speaker: Rose-Mary Rumbley, Humorist Saturday, June 24, 2006 Breakfast and Lunch on your own Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open 9:00 – 10:15 am Pace Society General Membership meeting – King George III room 10:30 – 12:00 noon Presentations – King George III room 10:30 – 11:15 am Valerie Tice – Guidelines for Pace Research 11:15 – 11:25 Break 11:25 – 12:00am Mira Pace Nelson – Pace Family in Delta, CO. 12:00 – 1:30 pm Lunch – on your own 1:30 – 3:00 pm Presentations – King George III room 1:30 – 2:15 pm Rebecca Christensen – Pace DNA Project Update 2:25 – 3:00 pm Shirley Pace Graham – Carrie Pace Letter 4:15 – 6:00 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 6:45 pm Dinner – (green ticket) - King George III dining room Speaker: Bill and Martha Bellomy “William Pace: Patriot” Presentation of new Officers and awards

    06/16/2006 03:08:13
    1. 2006 Reunion
    2. Re the 2006 reunion in Dallas this month. This will be my first year to attend. I am registered but have received nothing nor found anything on the web site that tells me what the schedule/agenda is. Am I looking in the wrong place? Please Advise. Dave Sanford

    06/16/2006 02:27:45
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Schedule for 2006 Reunion
    2. Rebecca Christensen
    3. Thanks Mira for posting the reunion schedule. I am excited to see that we have Lloyd Bockstruck as Thursday's speaker!! He is the treasure of the Dallas Public Library. Rebecca MIRANICK@aol.com wrote: Here is the schedule for the 2006 Reunion in Dallas. Mira Pace Nelson PACE SOCIETY OF AMERICA, INC. ANNUAL MEETING June 22-24, 2006 Radisson Hotel & Suites Dallas, Texas Annual Meeting Schedule of Events 2006 Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:00 5:30 pm Sign in at registration table – Bentley Room (near elevator) 3:00 p.m. Official hotel room check-in time 3:00 – 5:30 pm Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open 4:30 – 6:30 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 5:45 pm Group photograph of members – pool area 7:00 pm Dinner – (yellow ticket) - King George III dining room Music by Billy Jack Davis Dinner meeting of the membership Speaker: Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck, Genealogist & Librarian Friday, June 23, 2006 Breakfast and lunch on your own 9:00 am – 6:30 pm Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open Pace Publications available for purchase Sharing of family information and records OR Sight-seeing – on your own Dallas or Fort Worth library – on your own National Archives (NARA) in Fort Worth – on your own 4:30 – 6:15 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 6:45 pm Dinner – (pink ticket) - King George III dining room Speaker: Rose-Mary Rumbley, Humorist Saturday, June 24, 2006 Breakfast and Lunch on your own Pace Memorabilia and Hospitality Suite open 9:00 – 10:15 am Pace Society General Membership meeting – King George III room 10:30 – 12:00 noon Presentations – King George III room 10:30 – 11:15 am Valerie Tice – Guidelines for Pace Research 11:15 – 11:25 Break 11:25 – 12:00am Mira Pace Nelson – Pace Family in Delta, CO. 12:00 – 1:30 pm Lunch – on your own 1:30 – 3:00 pm Presentations – King George III room 1:30 – 2:15 pm Rebecca Christensen – Pace DNA Project Update 2:25 – 3:00 pm Shirley Pace Graham – Carrie Pace Letter 4:15 – 6:00 pm Pace Society Board meeting – Boardroom 311 6:45 pm Dinner – (green ticket) - King George III dining room Speaker: Bill and Martha Bellomy “William Pace: Patriot” Presentation of new Officers and awards

    06/16/2006 01:21:28
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. MAC
    3. Thank you, Ellen, for the URL. In the Records of the Virginia Company I found an order by the Governor of Virginia dated 4 March 1622 in which is noted the "treachery of the Indians on the 22nd day of March last". This would place the date of the massacre as 22 March 1621 (Julian), rather than 1622, and could be written today as 1621/22. This is a transcript, but I doubt entire dates would have been miscopied twice (the date of the document and date of the massacre). This hasn't solved the Maycock question, but at least we should now all be starting with the correct date of the massacre. This paper can be found in: The Thomas Jefferson Papers Series 8. Virginia Records Manuscripts. 1606-1737. Susan Myra Kingsbury, editor. Records of the Virginia Company, 1606-26, Volume IV: Miscellaneous Records. (It is image 58) M. A. Causey ----- Original Message ----- From: "gnlgy458" <gnlgy458@yahoo.co.uk> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur? > You can see both transcripts and images of many > of the original records, in the Thomas Jefferson > collection, which has been digitized. See > http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/vc04.html > for table of contents for Vol. IV. > > Ellen

    06/15/2006 05:13:16
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Re:Jamestown Massacre: What year did it occur?
    2. gnlgy458
    3. You can see both transcripts and images of many of the original records, in the Thomas Jefferson collection, which has been digitized. See http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/vc04.html for table of contents for Vol. IV. Ellen MAC <olems@bellsouth.net> wrote: Since Britain did not adopt the Gregorian calendar for another 130 years or so, in lieu of conflicting information I ASSUME the date of 22 Mar 1622 would be by a Julian date. This is based on the ASSUMPTION that this is the date shown on the original reports, etc. (and could be properly shown today, I believe, as 1622/23). What we are reading in the histories, encyclopedias, etc may well be "edited" or "corrected", however, certainly not acceptable unless so noted. Has anyone out there seen actual copies of any of these original reports? Or are we depending upon "transcripts" which, in actuality, may not be transcripts at all, but "edited transcripts" or even "edited abstracts". And even "transcripts" contain typos. M.A. Causey ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:32 PM Subject: [PACE-L] Massacre: What year did it occur, per Julian Calendar used at this time? > Re: Terrible massacre of Good Friday, 22 March > 1622 > > Question: Does anyone know if this is a Julian > or Gregorian year date? > Should the year be correctly claimed as Friday, > March 22, 1621/22? > > ~Kathlynn~ ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Help this list grow - tell other Pace researchers about it. Also, the Pace Society of America home page is located at: http://www.pacesociety.org - check it out! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    06/15/2006 02:29:21
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Respect
    2. gnlgy458
    3. Hi Kathlynn, There is a difference (in my opinion) between voicing an opinion about genealogical issues, and voicing personal opinions about other people. Of course Ruth Clark made mistakes, as we all do. I have not seen anyone saying that no one should disagree with Ruth. I myself have been expressing disagreement with her opinion about Sarah Maycock for several days, which should show that I don't want to suppress anyone's opinions about genealogy. What caused me to start this thread, which you and others object to, is that I received many emails from a person who was making very rude personal remarks about Ruth Keys Clark. It wasn't this person's genealogical opinions that upset me, it was the personal remarks about a woman who is no longer here to reply. I wanted to publicly defend Ruth so that's why I made the post that started this thread. Hope that clarifies. Sorry you feel I've been unfair to you. (I don't think I have -- quite the opposite, in fact) Ellen Kathlynn3@aol.com wrote: Holy Jesus, Mary & Joseph....what in the heck is going on here??? Please help me to understand all of this "respect" issue so I won't think I am going completely bonkers..... Wasn't it the same person that sent the "respect" msg. in the first place, the same person who is now sending msg's to the contrary? Likewise, the same person who voiced her OPINION to me FIRST in a personal msg. and when I responded voicing my opinion, using different adjectives, albeit the same type, replied with letting me know in no uncertain terms that she didn't want to hear it? I think the exact statement was "quite uncalled for" along with other stronger statements. Don't we have enough issues to solve with getting our family history accurate, without wasting time with unwarranted instructive reprimands, from one to another, about how/what they are allowed to say? No doubt Ruth Keyes Clark was a "fine researcher" - "devoted, thorough, excellent" - "warm, friendly, generous" person...and without doubt we should all never fail to be grateful to be the beneficiaries of her contributions. HOWEVER, in no way does this automatically eliminate the possibility that she could have inadvertantly made mistakes...and likewise this is true for all of us. I make them everday and addressing this issue is probably mine for this day...LOL! But I have never been one to sit still and not state my opinion on any issue, mine or others, on what appears to me to be unfairness. I have never been able to keep my mouth shut about having my hand called on something and by someone who appears to have the attitude that If I do or say it, it's okay....if you do the same thing you are a bad person and not worthy of my association. Boy! I better HUSH right now..... Thank you Joe, for having the courage and diplomacy to address this issue. IMHO, a totally unwarranted issue that has wasted all of out time. But all is well that ends well and IMO I think this was all necessary for better understanding of each other so we can continue to work harmoniously on our family history. Now we are all kin so lets :* and make up and get on with the more important issue at hand. Sincerely sent with good intentions..... ~Kathlynn~ ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    06/15/2006 01:33:49
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Pace's in Coosa Co. Alabama
    2. gnlgy458
    3. John Taylor's daughter Elizabeth married Bartley Martin Pace, son of Silas Pace Jr., who was son of Silas Pace the son of Richard Pace and Elizabeth Cain. John Taylor's daughter Mary married first Wilkins Jackson Breedlove and second Daniel McMillan. Her son from the first marriage, William Jackson Breedlove, married Laura E. Funderburgh, daughter of John M. Funderburgh and Sarah Pace. This Sarah Pace was a daughter of Silas Pace Jr. Ellen Neatstuffgifts@aol.com wrote: I was going through a book called Early records of Coosa County, Alabama, 1832-1860 : wills, administrations, and marriage records Birmingham, Ala.: unknown, 19--?, 123 pgs. And came across the following Will of John Taylor. Dau. Amelia Taylor, son Henry Taylor (son in law Henry Russell) Son Jesse Taylor, son Robert Taylor, Son George Taylor, James Taylor, John Taylor, Wm. Taylor. Dau. Mary McMillan, ELIZABETH PACE, Nancy Russell. Exec. George and Jessee Taylor, Febv. 26, 1836. Also John T. Pace to Driver, Sarah Ann Mar. 3, 1859 Wit. R.W. Carlisle M.G. I hope this helps someone! Julie ==== PACE Mailing List ==== To share info which may be of interest to others, reply to the mail list (PACE-L@rootsweb.com). To say thank you or otherwise reply personally, reply to sender. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    06/15/2006 01:01:02
    1. Re: [PACE-L] "Sara Maycock" not "Mrs Sarah Maycock"
    2. gnlgy458
    3. We don't know the answers. Think of it in terms of two different possible scenarios. Scenario one: Samuel's wife died either during the massacre or during the illness brought by the Abigail or possibly of childbirth. The child Sarah was taken in by Capt Roger Smith. When she grew up she married George Pace and thus George was able to patent the Maycock land. Secenario two: Samuel's wife survived. When the muster was taken she was away, and that's why her child was staying with the Smiths. (This is entirely possible -- we have to bear in mind that Richard and Isabella also are not on the muster, and we don't know why.) Later, the child Sarah either died (all too possible in view of the high mortality), or if she lived there is no mention of her in the surviving records. The widow married George Pace, and thus George was able to patent the Maycock land. We don't know which of these scenarios is the correct one. Ellen Kathlynn3@aol.com wrote: More questions: Why was Sarah at age 2 in the household of someone else? Where was her mother? Did her mother die during childbirth, or during the illness epidemic that followed soon after the massacre? Surely if she lived we could find her somewhere? ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: http://boards.ancestry.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    06/15/2006 06:00:35
    1. Pace's in Coosa Co. Alabama
    2. I was going through a book called Early records of Coosa County, Alabama, 1832-1860 : wills, administrations, and marriage records Birmingham, Ala.: unknown, 19--?, 123 pgs. And came across the following Will of John Taylor. Dau. Amelia Taylor, son Henry Taylor (son in law Henry Russell) Son Jesse Taylor, son Robert Taylor, Son George Taylor, James Taylor, John Taylor, Wm. Taylor. Dau. Mary McMillan, ELIZABETH PACE, Nancy Russell. Exec. George and Jessee Taylor, Febv. 26, 1836. Also John T. Pace to Driver, Sarah Ann Mar. 3, 1859 Wit. R.W. Carlisle M.G. I hope this helps someone! Julie

    06/15/2006 05:31:25