Pace, Clifford Ray Clifford Ray Pace, 61, Cedar Bluff, died Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. today at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. Burial will follow in the adjoining cemetery. Perry Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Published in The Gadsden Times on 11/18/2008

It's always good to check these sources for the cheapest price. Amazon.com has some used (like new) copies that are a little cheaper but not much. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained As does Genealogical Publishing Company - who published the book, and as does Footnote (see the link Roy sent) who also is the sole distributor of the electronic copy of the book.   There are other bookstores that sell it as well.  It can also be purchased from some of the larger genealogical societies.  Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 9:10 PM Amazon.com sells the book version. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained That is the link to purchase the digital version of the book, which is great to carry with you on a laptop, for example.  I have the printed, hardbound version which sits on my desk near my computer for easy reference.   The printed version is available from several booksellers as it is a "must have" reference for genealogical research.   I generally prefer books themselves over digital versions but the digital version has its advantages as well. Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:43 PM Some time ago, I made a post about a book on evidence-proper citation, etc. The URL (internet address) that I gave was a long one that did not work. I found the book again at: http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained/ Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1793 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM

Amazon.com sells the book version. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained That is the link to purchase the digital version of the book, which is great to carry with you on a laptop, for example.  I have the printed, hardbound version which sits on my desk near my computer for easy reference.   The printed version is available from several booksellers as it is a "must have" reference for genealogical research.   I generally prefer books themselves over digital versions but the digital version has its advantages as well. Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:43 PM Some time ago, I made a post about a book on evidence-proper citation, etc. The URL (internet address) that I gave was a long one that did not work. I found the book again at: http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained/ Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1793 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM

As does Genealogical Publishing Company - who published the book, and as does Footnote (see the link Roy sent) who also is the sole distributor of the electronic copy of the book.   There are other bookstores that sell it as well.  It can also be purchased from some of the larger genealogical societies.  Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 9:10 PM Amazon.com sells the book version. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Evidence Explained That is the link to purchase the digital version of the book, which is great to carry with you on a laptop, for example.  I have the printed, hardbound version which sits on my desk near my computer for easy reference.   The printed version is available from several booksellers as it is a "must have" reference for genealogical research.   I generally prefer books themselves over digital versions but the digital version has its advantages as well. Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:43 PM Some time ago, I made a post about a book on evidence-proper citation, etc. The URL (internet address) that I gave was a long one that did not work. I found the book again at: http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained/ Roy Johnson

That is the link to purchase the digital version of the book, which is great to carry with you on a laptop, for example.  I have the printed, hardbound version which sits on my desk near my computer for easy reference.   The printed version is available from several booksellers as it is a "must have" reference for genealogical research.   I generally prefer books themselves over digital versions but the digital version has its advantages as well. Rebecca Christensen --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Evidence Explained To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:43 PM Some time ago, I made a post about a book on evidence-proper citation, etc. The URL (internet address) that I gave was a long one that did not work. I found the book again at: http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained/ Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some time ago, I made a post about a book on evidence-proper citation, etc. The URL (internet address) that I gave was a long one that did not work. I found the book again at: http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained/ Roy Johnson

Debbie, I'm really not sure what you are talking about. Can you explain further? Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of debbie pace Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] me again! how do i get the new copy of my ancestry line with the new people? thanks debbie pace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1793 - Release Date: 11/16/2008 7:58 PM

how do i get the new copy of my ancestry line with the new people? thanks debbie pace

Brian Anders Seale 1968-2008 Sharon Catherine Pace 1946-2003 m. Michael Seale Jack Anders Pace 1922-living m. Mary Catherine McGlon Oliver H. Dockery Pace 1888-1991 m. Nettie Eugenia Anders William Whitted "Buddy" Pace 1865-1908 m. Laura Evelyn Jones Leander Jackson Pace 1816-1893 m. Luvina Morris Moses Woodruff Pace 1781-1868 m. Margaret Barclay Burrell (Pope) Pace 1758-1816 m. Lydia Woodruff John Pace (the Tory) m. Sarah (Burgh) Brian's Obit: Brian Anders Seale SEALE Brian Anders Seale, 39, passed away in Broomfield, CO, on October 19, 2008. Born in Tallahassee, FL, December 6, 1968, Brian was a 1986 graduate of Wolfson High School in Jacksonville, FL. He attended Florida State University where he was a member of Sigma Nu Fraternity. Brian completed his bachelor's degree at Auburn University with a major in Political Science and International Relations while serving on active duty with the United States Air Force. Brian was awarded the Air Force Commendation Medal for "his superb computer technology skills resulting in improved utilization of space and resources including a 30 percent reduction in refill prescription processing time of 1,500 prescriptions per day with 100 percent accuracy for a patient populace of 66,000 at Maxwell Air Force Base, Montgomery, Alabama." While serving in Montgomery, he met and married his wife of 16 years, the former Karen Lynn Hamilton, who survives him along with their three beautiful daughters, Nicole Eleanor Seale, Olivia Grace Seale, and Kate Marie Seale. Following his military service, Brian's career continued to focus upon leveraging computer technology to enhance the accurate and timely delivery of patients' pharmaceutical needs, principally as Regional and then Territorial Vice President of McKesson Information Solutions. He was passionate in his desire to contribute to the elimination of errors throughout the spectrum of Electronic Medical Records. Brian stood up for the less advantaged, and much of the focus toward the end of his life was upon identifying areas in which he could make a meaningful contribution in the area of patient advocacy. Not only did Brian strive to make a difference, he was very loving, generous, and dedicated to his family. Brian was preceded in death by his mother, Sharon Pace Baker, his maternal grandmother, Mary Catherine McGlon Pace, and his paternal grandparents Ben and Bauza Lee Seale. In addition to his wife and daughters, Brian is survived by his father and step-mother, Mike and Jan Seale of Acworth, GA; maternal grandfather, Jack Anders Pace of Jacksonville, FL; sister, Julie Seale Brown (Philip) of Macon, Georgia; brother, Shaun Seale of West Lafayette, IN; Patricia Pace Carson (Ralph) of Jacksonville, FL; Laura Cochran of Jacksonville, FL; Marianne Cochran of Jacksonville, FL; father-in -law and mother-in-law, Dave and Ellen Hamilton of Montgomery, AL; step-grandparents, James and Martha Johnson of West Lafayette, IN; as well as a niece, nephew, and several aunts, uncles, and cousins. A memorial service will be held for Brian on Thursday, November 6, 2008, at 11 AM at South Jacksonville Presbyterian Church, 2137 Hendricks Ave., with Dr. Kyle Reese officiating. The family will hold a private graveside service at Riverside Memorial Park. Hardage-Giddens Town & Country Funeral Home, 7242 Normandy Boulevard, Jacksonville is serving the Seale Family. Please Sign the Guestbook @ Jacksonville.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Long Carey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [PACE] Obit of Brian Anders Seale, age 39, passed away in Broomfield, Co on October 19, 2008-has some connection to Dock Pace > His obit is posted on the web, as well as a guest book. In reading thru > the message posted I see that there is some connection > to a Dock Pace. > graveside service at Riverside Memorial Park, Jacksonville,Fla. > Hardage-Gliddens Town& Country Funeral Home,7242 Normandy Blvd, > Jacksonville,Fla > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove > [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in > touch! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Europe Ahmad, the submitter, doesn't know either. He is the only source familiar with this line and he has her only from marriage documents and census records. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent Who was the parents of Eliza (Louisa) Pace who married Dempsey Taylor? Does anyone know? She was b. NC and she married 1843 Nash Co., NC to Dempsey Taylor. They are both listed as "Mulatto". Would anyone know who Eliza Louisa Pace's parents were? Thanks, Addie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1789 - Release Date: 11/14/2008 7:32 PM

His obit is posted on the web, as well as a guest book. In reading thru the message posted I see that there is some connection to a Dock Pace. graveside service at Riverside Memorial Park, Jacksonville,Fla. Hardage-Gliddens Town& Country Funeral Home,7242 Normandy Blvd, Jacksonville,Fla * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch!

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Seale" <[email protected]> To: "Lois Long Carey" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [PACE] DNA kit # 50592- Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace b. June 12, 1892, Union, La, son of Alexander Lane Pace b. June 21, 1850 > Lois - I was not sure who to send this to but I just saw your email and > thought you might be able to forward it to the the appropriate person. > > My husband, Brian Anders Seale, passed away on October 19. He is > survived by myself, Karen H. Seale; our triplet daughters Kate, Olivia > and Nicole Seale, his grandfather, Jack Pace; father and stepmother, Mike > and Jan Seale; sister Julie Seale Brown and her family as well as many > other extended family members. Services were held on November 6, 2008 in > Jacksonville FL and he was laid to rest alongside his mother, Sharon Pace > Baker and his grandmother Mary Catherine McGlon Pace at Riverside > Memorial Park in Jacksonville. > > Thank you for your assistance. I thought the society should know. > > With Regards, Karen Seale > > > > On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Lois Long Carey wrote: > >> some similarity to names in Fluvanna Co.- anything the donor of the DNA >> can add to this would be helpful. >> >> George Lane b, abt. 1805, d. aft. 1870 m. Eliza W. Flanagan >> There are many Fluvanna Lanes related to this family but the curious >> thing is this-- >> George and Eliza apparently moved to Alabama and while There had two >> daughers. >> Fannie A.M. Lane and Sarah E. Lane >> on the later Fluvanna census they are back in Virginia and the census >> shows them to be born in Alabama. >> Fannie married a Widower,Edwin or Edward Cosby who was from Louisa >> County. After his death, Fannie was living >> with my Pace family as a boarder in 1900..( My mother referred to her as >> Aunt Fannie) in my family there was a story That >> Aunt Fannie burned to death while drying her hair in the fireplace. This >> must have taken place bet 1900 and 1910 >> because she was not living with my family in 1910,when Overton Ashby >> Pace was listed as head of Household. >> He was killed in December of 1910 and the family moved from there. >> as I have previously stated Edward Cosby attested to the facts on an >> application for my grgrandmother, Mary Ann Herndon Robinson, >> Rebecca Ann Robinson, who married John walker Pace b. 1843 >> >> Sarah E. Lane married James Houchens, son of John Chiles Houchens and >> all of these people are living close to my family. >> >> Could there be a connection to these Paces in Louisiana on the 1930 >> census >> >> Farmerville, Union, La >> >> E. L. Pace Head b. abt. 1851 Louisiana >> A. L. Pace Father b. abt. 1851 >> Elizabeth Pace mother, b. abt. 1854 >> Jack Pace brother, b. abt. 1892( Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace??) >> Clarice Pace sister-in-law b. abt. 1906 >> >> additional info. >> WW I Draft cards 1917-1918 >> Jack Pace >> b. June 12, 1892 >> Registration place, Union, La >> White >> b. Louisiana >> >> Louisiana Death Index >> jack Pace >> Death Date- 23 JUne 1945 >> Estimated Birth: 1892 >> Age 53 years >> Race- white or Mexican( white) >> Parish- Lincoln >> Certificate 901 >> Volume 20 >> Title: Louisiana Statewide Death Indices 1945-1949 >> >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please >> remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can >> stay in touch! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >

Who was the parents of Eliza (Louisa) Pace who married Dempsey Taylor? Does anyone know? She was b. NC and she married 1843 Nash Co., NC to Dempsey Taylor. They are both listed as "Mulatto". Would anyone know who Eliza Louisa Pace's parents were? Thanks, Addie

some similarity to names in Fluvanna Co.- anything the donor of the DNA can add to this would be helpful. George Lane b, abt. 1805, d. aft. 1870 m. Eliza W. Flanagan There are many Fluvanna Lanes related to this family but the curious thing is this-- George and Eliza apparently moved to Alabama and while There had two daughers. Fannie A.M. Lane and Sarah E. Lane on the later Fluvanna census they are back in Virginia and the census shows them to be born in Alabama. Fannie married a Widower,Edwin or Edward Cosby who was from Louisa County. After his death, Fannie was living with my Pace family as a boarder in 1900..( My mother referred to her as Aunt Fannie) in my family there was a story That Aunt Fannie burned to death while drying her hair in the fireplace. This must have taken place bet 1900 and 1910 because she was not living with my family in 1910,when Overton Ashby Pace was listed as head of Household. He was killed in December of 1910 and the family moved from there. as I have previously stated Edward Cosby attested to the facts on an application for my grgrandmother, Mary Ann Herndon Robinson, Rebecca Ann Robinson, who married John walker Pace b. 1843 Sarah E. Lane married James Houchens, son of John Chiles Houchens and all of these people are living close to my family. Could there be a connection to these Paces in Louisiana on the 1930 census Farmerville, Union, La E. L. Pace Head b. abt. 1851 Louisiana A. L. Pace Father b. abt. 1851 Elizabeth Pace mother, b. abt. 1854 Jack Pace brother, b. abt. 1892( Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace??) Clarice Pace sister-in-law b. abt. 1906 additional info. WW I Draft cards 1917-1918 Jack Pace b. June 12, 1892 Registration place, Union, La White b. Louisiana Louisiana Death Index jack Pace Death Date- 23 JUne 1945 Estimated Birth: 1892 Age 53 years Race- white or Mexican( white) Parish- Lincoln Certificate 901 Volume 20 Title: Louisiana Statewide Death Indices 1945-1949 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch!

Lois - I was not sure who to send this to but I just saw your email and thought you might be able to forward it to the the appropriate person. My husband, Brian Anders Seale, passed away on October 19. He is survived by myself, Karen H. Seale; our triplet daughters Kate, Olivia and Nicole Seale, his grandfather, Jack Pace; father and stepmother, Mike and Jan Seale; sister Julie Seale Brown and her family as well as many other extended family members. Services were held on November 6, 2008 in Jacksonville FL and he was laid to rest alongside his mother, Sharon Pace Baker and his grandmother Mary Catherine McGlon Pace at Riverside Memorial Park in Jacksonville. Thank you for your assistance. I thought the society should know. With Regards, Karen Seale On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Lois Long Carey wrote: > some similarity to names in Fluvanna Co.- anything the donor of the > DNA can add to this would be helpful. > > George Lane b, abt. 1805, d. aft. 1870 m. Eliza W. Flanagan > There are many Fluvanna Lanes related to this family but the curious > thing is this-- > George and Eliza apparently moved to Alabama and while There had > two daughers. > Fannie A.M. Lane and Sarah E. Lane > on the later Fluvanna census they are back in Virginia and the > census shows them to be born in Alabama. > Fannie married a Widower,Edwin or Edward Cosby who was from Louisa > County. After his death, Fannie was living > with my Pace family as a boarder in 1900..( My mother referred to > her as Aunt Fannie) in my family there was a story That > Aunt Fannie burned to death while drying her hair in the fireplace. > This must have taken place bet 1900 and 1910 > because she was not living with my family in 1910,when Overton Ashby > Pace was listed as head of Household. > He was killed in December of 1910 and the family moved from there. > as I have previously stated Edward Cosby attested to the facts on an > application for my grgrandmother, Mary Ann Herndon Robinson, > Rebecca Ann Robinson, who married John walker Pace b. 1843 > > Sarah E. Lane married James Houchens, son of John Chiles Houchens > and all of these people are living close to my family. > > Could there be a connection to these Paces in Louisiana on the 1930 > census > > Farmerville, Union, La > > E. L. Pace Head b. abt. 1851 Louisiana > A. L. Pace Father b. abt. 1851 > Elizabeth Pace mother, b. abt. 1854 > Jack Pace brother, b. abt. 1892( Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace??) > Clarice Pace sister-in-law b. abt. 1906 > > additional info. > WW I Draft cards 1917-1918 > Jack Pace > b. June 12, 1892 > Registration place, Union, La > White > b. Louisiana > > Louisiana Death Index > jack Pace > Death Date- 23 JUne 1945 > Estimated Birth: 1892 > Age 53 years > Race- white or Mexican( white) > Parish- Lincoln > Certificate 901 > Volume 20 > Title: Louisiana Statewide Death Indices 1945-1949 > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please > remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we > can stay in touch! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Roy, I cannot say that I can count any of these marriages to my line but maybe these will help some of the other Pace family members who made it to Texas.  Hope some turn out to be helpful.  I was digging thru some books at the library the other day and found these. from Book: HENDERSON CO. (TX) MARRIAGES  1860- 1886 by Marion Day Mullins PACE MARRIAGES LISTED: G. W. Pace       married      L. E. Erwin            30-Jan 1873     pg. 25 Henry  Pace       married     Lon Adams           28 Jan 1880      pg. 47   J. R. Pace          married     Lula Pace             20 Jul 1885       pg. 67       (* also reversed as Lula marr. J R same date)                             pg. 67 M. T. Pace          married    N. L. Jones          14 Oct 1875        pg. 32 N. A. Pace (bride) married    A. Phillips            10 Mar 1881      pg. 51  T. D. Pace         married    Julia A. Clark         9 Dec 1884        pg. 64 Elizabeth Pace  married    Thomas Allison      25 Jun 1871       pg. 18       *(lots of Pate and Page if you are looking for that spelling --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACE] Server up; charts updated; new DNA results To: "'Gordon W. Pace'" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:32 PM He was closely related to former Pace president Bob Pace and that is his lineage. I do not have it posted, as I have not received details from Bob. This reminds me that I should email him. Bob and the Patterson descendent are in contact. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon W. Pace Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Server up; charts updated; new DNA results Roy: In regard to the DNA test kit 128919: This Pace you said was adopted by a Patterson. It is likely that this Patterson was related. I have nine Pattersons (related to Paces) in my database of descendants of the VA Paces. If you can give me this person's email address I may be able to provide him some important information if I can obtain his birth year and place and where he lived. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 29, 2008 10:50 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PACE] Server up; charts updated; new DNA results > >The servers are up and I was able to upload the latest revisions of the >tables for the DNA study. > > > >New results in for kit 128919, who is a Pace who was adopted as a Patterson >and has that surname. He knows very little about his Pace ancestry. DNA >results are 12/12/ match for group 3a, so at least now he knows where he >fits in, although he may not be able to trace his immediate ancestry. More >results are to come. He ordered a 37 marker test. > > > >Roy Johnson > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 7:01 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't feel foolish; everyone has to start somewhere. As I tell my classes, there is no such thing as a silly question if you don't know the answer. Genealogical studies have to use test the Y chromosome, which passes only male to male, because it is the only one that passes in pure form male to male, and male to male is the only way to follow a surname, due to our custom of passing surnames male to male. The mtdna test for females also passes in pure form. (Males have it but do not pass it on.) But it goes straight up the female line, never crossing over, since males to not pass it on. So your mtdna would go to your mother, her mother, etc., and would never hit the male or Pace side. Other DNA is impossible to trace because there is no way to tell which ancestor it came from. If you know any male Pace descendents of Francis, it would be good to get their DNA. His DNA should be identical to or closely match Twitty's. Actually you are not a descendent of Twitty, but of his brother Francis. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micky Freeman Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent Roy, I am a novice concerning DNA testing, but as I understand it, females are not acceptable as donors, right? I am a descendent of Twitty Pace -he was my .g.g.g.g.uncle-and I'd be happy to help if I could. Twitty Pace was the brother of Francis Pace, my ggg grandfather. So I just wanted to pass this along, I feel foolish to let everyone know how little I know about this subject! But it is amazing. Micky P Freeman [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "'Gordon W. Pace'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > Yes, it would, and that has been posted on the list before, but so far no > one has come forward. Anyone know a Twitty descendent? Funding could be > obtained. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Gordon W. Pace > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > > Roy: > My database showed that Twitty Pace was a descendant of Richard Pace of > Jamestown and the documentation seemed fairly good. This is now somewhat > questionable, but there could have been a paternity error subsequent to > Twitty Pace. So another DNA test from a descendant of Twitty would > probably > be very helpful. > Gordon W. Pace > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent >> >>Kit 55000 submits this lineage: >> >> >> >>. Donor >> * 1. Father >> * 2. Grandfather >> * 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22 >> -----Lamar or Fannin Co. TX >> + GEORGIE MAE SCALES (sources for John and Georgie are verbal >> information from living individuals, including my father, grandmother, >> and great aunt. >> Some of my family still residing in Fannin/Grayson/Lamar county have >> most of the documented sources from the court houses in those counties. >> I have received most of my information from them via emails; 1870, 1900, >> 1910, 1920, and 1930 census records) >> * 4. ASHLEY L. PACE b 12 Dec 1834 AR d 7 Feb 1863 Grayson >> Co. TX; >> (same sources as above; 1860 census record) >> + ARAMINTA DAVIS m. 20 Dec 1860 Fannin Co. TX (2nd Wife, mother of >> John Ashly) >> * 5. TWITTY PACE b 29 Dec 1789 Greenville Co., SC d 11 Feb >> 1849 Fannin Co., TX + SUSANNAH DUNCAN m. 19 Apr 1810 Warren Co., Kentucky >>(Twitty Pace Bible, owned by Bland and Simeon Smith of Bonham, TX... >>published in the >> Fannin County Folks and Facts book (Bonham Public Library - 1977) >> >> >> >>DNA results for alleles 1-25 were inconclusive showing possible inclusion > in >>group 3b with three differences-the borderline area. >> >> >> >>Results for 26-37 show conclusively that this donor is NOT in 3b. >> >> >> >>Modal for 3b 26-37: 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 40 12 12 >> >> >> >>Results for kit 55000: 10 10 23 23 16 15 20 16 37 37 12 12 >> >> >> >>As you can see, there are almost too many differences to count. I will > need >>to remove this kit from the 3b chart to the unidentified Paces chart. >> >> >> >>Are there any other Twitty Pace descendents out there? 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Roy, I am a novice concerning DNA testing, but as I understand it, females are not acceptable as donors, right? I am a descendent of Twitty Pace -he was my .g.g.g.g.uncle-and I'd be happy to help if I could. Twitty Pace was the brother of Francis Pace, my ggg grandfather. So I just wanted to pass this along, I feel foolish to let everyone know how little I know about this subject! But it is amazing. Micky P Freeman [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "'Gordon W. Pace'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > Yes, it would, and that has been posted on the list before, but so far no > one has come forward. Anyone know a Twitty descendent? Funding could be > obtained. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Gordon W. Pace > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > > Roy: > My database showed that Twitty Pace was a descendant of Richard Pace of > Jamestown and the documentation seemed fairly good. This is now somewhat > questionable, but there could have been a paternity error subsequent to > Twitty Pace. So another DNA test from a descendant of Twitty would > probably > be very helpful. > Gordon W. Pace > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent >> >>Kit 55000 submits this lineage: >> >> >> >>. Donor >> * 1. Father >> * 2. Grandfather >> * 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22 >> -----Lamar or Fannin Co. TX >> + GEORGIE MAE SCALES (sources for John and Georgie are verbal >> information from living individuals, including my father, grandmother, >> and great aunt. >> Some of my family still residing in Fannin/Grayson/Lamar county have >> most of the documented sources from the court houses in those counties. >> I have received most of my information from them via emails; 1870, 1900, >> 1910, 1920, and 1930 census records) >> * 4. ASHLEY L. PACE b 12 Dec 1834 AR d 7 Feb 1863 Grayson >> Co. TX; >> (same sources as above; 1860 census record) >> + ARAMINTA DAVIS m. 20 Dec 1860 Fannin Co. TX (2nd Wife, mother of >> John Ashly) >> * 5. TWITTY PACE b 29 Dec 1789 Greenville Co., SC d 11 Feb >> 1849 Fannin Co., TX + SUSANNAH DUNCAN m. 19 Apr 1810 Warren Co., Kentucky >>(Twitty Pace Bible, owned by Bland and Simeon Smith of Bonham, TX... >>published in the >> Fannin County Folks and Facts book (Bonham Public Library - 1977) >> >> >> >>DNA results for alleles 1-25 were inconclusive showing possible inclusion > in >>group 3b with three differences-the borderline area. >> >> >> >>Results for 26-37 show conclusively that this donor is NOT in 3b. >> >> >> >>Modal for 3b 26-37: 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 40 12 12 >> >> >> >>Results for kit 55000: 10 10 23 23 16 15 20 16 37 37 12 12 >> >> >> >>As you can see, there are almost too many differences to count. I will > need >>to remove this kit from the 3b chart to the unidentified Paces chart. >> >> >> >>Are there any other Twitty Pace descendents out there? It would be good to >>get more DNA. >> >> >> >>Roy Johnson >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 > 7:01 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

He was closely related to former Pace president Bob Pace and that is his lineage. I do not have it posted, as I have not received details from Bob. This reminds me that I should email him. Bob and the Patterson descendent are in contact. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon W. Pace Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Server up; charts updated; new DNA results Roy: In regard to the DNA test kit 128919: This Pace you said was adopted by a Patterson. It is likely that this Patterson was related. I have nine Pattersons (related to Paces) in my database of descendants of the VA Paces. If you can give me this person's email address I may be able to provide him some important information if I can obtain his birth year and place and where he lived. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 29, 2008 10:50 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PACE] Server up; charts updated; new DNA results > >The servers are up and I was able to upload the latest revisions of the >tables for the DNA study. > > > >New results in for kit 128919, who is a Pace who was adopted as a Patterson >and has that surname. He knows very little about his Pace ancestry. DNA >results are 12/12/ match for group 3a, so at least now he knows where he >fits in, although he may not be able to trace his immediate ancestry. More >results are to come. He ordered a 37 marker test. > > > >Roy Johnson > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 7:01 PM

Yes, it would, and that has been posted on the list before, but so far no one has come forward. Anyone know a Twitty descendent? Funding could be obtained. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon W. Pace Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent Roy: My database showed that Twitty Pace was a descendant of Richard Pace of Jamestown and the documentation seemed fairly good. This is now somewhat questionable, but there could have been a paternity error subsequent to Twitty Pace. So another DNA test from a descendant of Twitty would probably be very helpful. Gordon W. Pace -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >Sent: Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > >Kit 55000 submits this lineage: > > > >. Donor > * 1. Father > * 2. Grandfather > * 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22 > -----Lamar or Fannin Co. TX > + GEORGIE MAE SCALES (sources for John and Georgie are verbal > information from living individuals, including my father, grandmother, > and great aunt. > Some of my family still residing in Fannin/Grayson/Lamar county have > most of the documented sources from the court houses in those counties. > I have received most of my information from them via emails; 1870, 1900, > 1910, 1920, and 1930 census records) > * 4. ASHLEY L. PACE b 12 Dec 1834 AR d 7 Feb 1863 Grayson > Co. TX; > (same sources as above; 1860 census record) > + ARAMINTA DAVIS m. 20 Dec 1860 Fannin Co. TX (2nd Wife, mother of > John Ashly) > * 5. TWITTY PACE b 29 Dec 1789 Greenville Co., SC d 11 Feb > 1849 Fannin Co., TX + SUSANNAH DUNCAN m. 19 Apr 1810 Warren Co., Kentucky >(Twitty Pace Bible, owned by Bland and Simeon Smith of Bonham, TX... >published in the > Fannin County Folks and Facts book (Bonham Public Library - 1977) > > > >DNA results for alleles 1-25 were inconclusive showing possible inclusion in >group 3b with three differences-the borderline area. > > > >Results for 26-37 show conclusively that this donor is NOT in 3b. > > > >Modal for 3b 26-37: 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 40 12 12 > > > >Results for kit 55000: 10 10 23 23 16 15 20 16 37 37 12 12 > > > >As you can see, there are almost too many differences to count. I will need >to remove this kit from the 3b chart to the unidentified Paces chart. > > > >Are there any other Twitty Pace descendents out there? It would be good to >get more DNA. > > > >Roy Johnson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 7:01 PM