Maybe I'm the one missing something, but here's what I saw: In the chart, nearly all of the 3b people are designated as JP-SB, or lineage to John + Sarah ("John the tory"); the others are unsure. But none of the William-Sicely three even speculates a connection with John, although their DNA matches with the JP-SB people. The "interesting study" is trying to figure out what this means. Perhaps they are descended from a brother or relative of John, or perhaps if records could be found, all of the speculation is wrong and they are descended from John. The last submitter included some good speculation with records cited. You can see what he sent by clicking on his link in the chart, which will take you to the donors page, and at the bottom of his lineage is a link to his comments. All I am saying is that we have a new puzzle, a DNA match that does not corroborate with the documentary records although it does not contradict those records. Is there something wrong with this reasoning? I am aware that you have studied DNA more deeply than I have. My contribution to Pace genealogy has not been in the research field, but rather in bringing people together, first through the Pace Network and now through the DNA study. I don't know whether you are aware of it or not, but Gordon of Canada first found his Pace relatives in England through the Pace Network, which enabled him to do the research back to George Pace in Shropshire, and then in the DNA, his match with John of M descendents gave us the best candidate for John's origin (George's brother John b. 1665). It makes me happy to perform this kind of service. I like it better than original research. I don't know why Jack Pace, in his article in the latest bulletin, does not at least give mention to John b. 1665 Shropshire as the best candidate for John of M. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents Roy,   I'm not sure why this is "emerging as an interesting study" based on the new results for the William Pace/Sicely Walker line. (What am I missing?)  The new participant #134499, through William and Sicely's son Gideon only tested 12 markers and they are a perfect match not only to the previous participant through William and Sicely's son William Richard (#10683), but also to the modal (most common) result for all of Group 3b.   In this case 12 markers really isn't enough to tell us anything new about this branch of the family.   The other participant from this line (#16218) through William and Sicely's son Alsey does have a DNA difference at DYS 390 (marker 2), but this appears to have been a more "recent" change - somewhere between Alsey Pace and the participant.    We do now have 12 marker DNA results for three lines of descent from William Pace and Sicely Walker - through Alsey, William Richard, and Gideon.   Between the three sets of results, the results show that the father William Pace's 25 marker DNA results are a perfect match to the Group 3b modal - with the 1st 12 matching DNA marker results of the William Richard and Gideon lines and markers 13-25 matching for the Alsey and William Richard lines.  These three results place this line solidly in Group 3b with the modal for these three results a perfect match overall at 25 markers to the Group 3b modal. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:00 PMMa This small group is emerging as a very interesting study. There are three donors now tracing different lineages back to William and Sicely. DNA evidence relates them to the John Pace-Sarah ?Burgh? (John the Tory) group, but their submitted lineages show no relationship to that group. The problem is that there is no documentation as to William's father, and all before that seems to be speculation and circumstantial evidence. I have grouped these three at the bottom of the Group 3b chart so that they will be together, and I have grouped them on the Donors page, where there is also a link to some speculation by Charles R. Pace as to William's possible parentage-look for the link. Rebecca might have some commentary on this line???? http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm and scroll to the bottom of the chart. Click the kit numbers if you want to see the lineages. Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 2:59 PM

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents Roy,   I'm not sure why this is "emerging as an interesting study" based on the new results for the William Pace/Sicely Walker line. (What am I missing?)  The new participant #134499, through William and Sicely's son Gideon only tested 12 markers and they are a perfect match not only to the previous participant through William and Sicely's son William Richard (#10683), but also to the modal (most common) result for all of Group 3b.   In this case 12 markers really isn't enough to tell us anything new about this branch of the family.   The other participant from this line (#16218) through William and Sicely's son Alsey does have a DNA difference at DYS 390 (marker 2), but this appears to have been a more "recent" change - somewhere between Alsey Pace and the participant.    We do now have 12 marker DNA results for three lines of descent from William Pace and Sicely Walker - through Alsey, William Richard, and Gideon.   Between the three sets of results, the results show that the father William Pace's 25 marker DNA results are a perfect match to the Group 3b modal - with the 1st 12 matching DNA marker results of the William Richard and Gideon lines and markers 13-25 matching for the Alsey and William Richard lines.  These three results place this line solidly in Group 3b with the modal for these three results a perfect match overall at 25 markers to the Group 3b modal. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:00 PM This small group is emerging as a very interesting study. There are three donors now tracing different lineages back to William and Sicely. DNA evidence relates them to the John Pace-Sarah ?Burgh? (John the Tory) group, but their submitted lineages show no relationship to that group. The problem is that there is no documentation as to William's father, and all before that seems to be speculation and circumstantial evidence. I have grouped these three at the bottom of the Group 3b chart so that they will be together, and I have grouped them on the Donors page, where there is also a link to some speculation by Charles R. Pace as to William's possible parentage-look for the link. Rebecca might have some commentary on this line???? http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm and scroll to the bottom of the chart. Click the kit numbers if you want to see the lineages. Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 2:59 PM

Thank you so much for sharing this with us, Rebecca. I wish I had someone to have tested on my Pace side. As you may recall, I am a descendant of William Pace and Ruth Lambert through their son, John Pace who was married to an Anderson. He died in the War of 1812 and was a brother to your James Pace. Has anyone else from John's line had their DNA tested that you know of? I don't know any male descendants in my family. I am from John Pace, Jr. and Sarah McCracken's daughter, Lenny Pace who was my GG Grandmother and she married Robert Allen Lemmon. John Pace, Jr. and Sarah [Sallie] McCracken Pace are both buried at the Pace cemetery in Palmer, Texas in Ellis County. Jane Little McEndree -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] William Pace - Ruth Lambert DNA results through son Isaac We also just received a second set of DNA results for the William Pace - Ruth Lambert line through their son Isaac and grandson John.   This new  participant (#132805) tested 67 markers and matches the other Isaac Pace/John Pace descendant (Participant #6366)  66/67 markers with one DNA difference in the 464 marker (a four part result) and a marker in which differences often occur.    This new set of results is also a 66/67 match to the other William Pace - Ruth Lambert participant (through their son James) that has tested 67 markers (Participant #6429).   The results for this line are Group 3a. Rebecca Christensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We also just received a second set of DNA results for the William Pace - Ruth Lambert line through their son Isaac and grandson John.   This new  participant (#132805) tested 67 markers and matches the other Isaac Pace/John Pace descendant (Participant #6366)  66/67 markers with one DNA difference in the 464 marker (a four part result) and a marker in which differences often occur.    This new set of results is also a 66/67 match to the other William Pace - Ruth Lambert participant (through their son James) that has tested 67 markers (Participant #6429).   The results for this line are Group 3a. Rebecca Christensen

Roy,   I'm not sure why this is "emerging as an interesting study" based on the new results for the William Pace/Sicely Walker line. (What am I missing?)  The new participant #134499, through William and Sicely's son Gideon only tested 12 markers and they are a perfect match not only to the previous participant through William and Sicely's son William Richard (#10683), but also to the modal (most common) result for all of Group 3b.   In this case 12 markers really isn't enough to tell us anything new about this branch of the family.   The other participant from this line (#16218) through William and Sicely's son Alsey does have a DNA difference at DYS 390 (marker 2), but this appears to have been a more "recent" change - somewhere between Alsey Pace and the participant.    We do now have 12 marker DNA results for three lines of descent from William Pace and Sicely Walker - through Alsey, William Richard, and Gideon.   Between the three sets of results, the results show that the father William Pace's 25 marker DNA results are a perfect match to the Group 3b modal - with the 1st 12 matching DNA marker results of the William Richard and Gideon lines and markers 13-25 matching for the Alsey and William Richard lines.  These three results place this line solidly in Group 3b with the modal for these three results a perfect match overall at 25 markers to the Group 3b modal. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:00 PM This small group is emerging as a very interesting study. There are three donors now tracing different lineages back to William and Sicely. DNA evidence relates them to the John Pace-Sarah ?Burgh? (John the Tory) group, but their submitted lineages show no relationship to that group. The problem is that there is no documentation as to William's father, and all before that seems to be speculation and circumstantial evidence. I have grouped these three at the bottom of the Group 3b chart so that they will be together, and I have grouped them on the Donors page, where there is also a link to some speculation by Charles R. Pace as to William's possible parentage-look for the link. Rebecca might have some commentary on this line???? http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm and scroll to the bottom of the chart. Click the kit numbers if you want to see the lineages. Roy Johnson

This small group is emerging as a very interesting study. There are three donors now tracing different lineages back to William and Sicely. DNA evidence relates them to the John Pace-Sarah ?Burgh? (John the Tory) group, but their submitted lineages show no relationship to that group. The problem is that there is no documentation as to William's father, and all before that seems to be speculation and circumstantial evidence. I have grouped these three at the bottom of the Group 3b chart so that they will be together, and I have grouped them on the Donors page, where there is also a link to some speculation by Charles R. Pace as to William's possible parentage-look for the link. Rebecca might have some commentary on this line???? http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm and scroll to the bottom of the chart. Click the kit numbers if you want to see the lineages. Roy Johnson

Roy, the PACE's said that my Grandmother, a PACE- (John Cullen Pace, Jr DNA) (Wyche H. Pace's son) and my Grandfather PACE-Joseph Benjamin Pace (John Foster Pace DNA) - the DNA said they were related as close as 4-11 generations. SO, I believe there is only one NO.- the 18th NO-23 for John C. Pace, Jr (Wyche Pace) and 24 for John Foster Pace DNA(Burrell P.Pace) different between the two DNA's of my Grandmother- Lonie Leona Pace and my Grandfather- Joseph Benjamin Pace. Thanks, Addie When Family Tree DNA notified me- it was on the John Foster Pace DNA Page results.

Offhand, I don't know the answer to your question. I have so many Paces now to keep track of that I can't keep them in my mind and have to go through a lot of checking. I will file your question and look it up when I have time. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA -PACE matches Roy, was John Foster Pace- Kit#88349 supposed to be on this new list of PACE DNA that was just sent to me? It had my Other PACE family on it- John Cullen Pace, Jr on it, so I was just wondering. I am trying to get my email changed on my 2 PACE DNA's I sent in on FamilyTree DNA page. It is [email protected] Thanks, Addie Pace-Glasgow ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1812 - Release Date: 11/25/2008 7:53 PM

Would anyone know of a Susan Brittain who married a Duke William Hullum? Could he be related to a William Hullum Pace from Virginia.> and is she connected to Keziah Brittain? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch!

Roy, was John Foster Pace- Kit#88349 supposed to be on this new list of PACE DNA that was just sent to me? It had my Other PACE family on it- John Cullen Pace, Jr on it, so I was just wondering. I am trying to get my email changed on my 2 PACE DNA's I sent in on FamilyTree DNA page. It is [email protected] Thanks, Addie Pace-Glasgow

Unfortunately that occurred to late for our last submission, which we just paid through funding a few days before the offer. Nothing is pending at present that I am aware of. I am aware that I have let a few updates to the charts slip through the cracks. My wife had major surgery in October and it has been a slow recovery, and I have been pretty well covered up with my classes and her. If I miss something and you notice it, please email me. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] Family Tree DNA announced year-end special Family Tree DNA has once again announced a year-end special on their new DNA kits, when purchased through a surname group.  The special runs through December 31, 2008.  Now is a good time to purchase a kit if you have been thinking about joining the Pace DNA project. I won't post the prices online in accordance with Rootsweb policy, but if anyone is interested, I will forward Family Tree DNA's e-mail to them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all! Rebecca Christensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1812 - Release Date: 11/25/2008 7:53 PM

In a message dated 11/27/2008 2:10:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I will forward Family Tree DNA's e-mail to them.? I would be interested to know about the Family Tree DNA. Thanks, Earline (Pace) Metze **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)

Family Tree DNA has once again announced a year-end special on their new DNA kits, when purchased through a surname group.  The special runs through December 31, 2008.  Now is a good time to purchase a kit if you have been thinking about joining the Pace DNA project. I won't post the prices online in accordance with Rootsweb policy, but if anyone is interested, I will forward Family Tree DNA's e-mail to them.  Happy Thanksgiving to all! Rebecca Christensen

Karen, our prayers are with you in the loss of your husband! He must have been quite young to be survived by both father and grandfather ( not to mention triplet daughters). So sorry for your loss! Miriam Nixon, a Pace cousin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Seale Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:15 AM To: Lois Long Carey; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] DNA kit # 50592- Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace b. June 12, 1892, Union, La, son of Alexander Lane Pace b. June 21, 1850 Lois - I was not sure who to send this to but I just saw your email and thought you might be able to forward it to the the appropriate person. My husband, Brian Anders Seale, passed away on October 19. He is survived by myself, Karen H. Seale; our triplet daughters Kate, Olivia and Nicole Seale, his grandfather, Jack Pace; father and stepmother, Mike and Jan Seale; sister Julie Seale Brown and her family as well as many other extended family members. Services were held on November 6, 2008 in Jacksonville FL and he was laid to rest alongside his mother, Sharon Pace Baker and his grandmother Mary Catherine McGlon Pace at Riverside Memorial Park in Jacksonville. Thank you for your assistance. I thought the society should know. With Regards, Karen Seale On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Lois Long Carey wrote: > some similarity to names in Fluvanna Co.- anything the donor of the > DNA can add to this would be helpful. > > George Lane b, abt. 1805, d. aft. 1870 m. Eliza W. Flanagan > There are many Fluvanna Lanes related to this family but the curious > thing is this-- > George and Eliza apparently moved to Alabama and while There had > two daughers. > Fannie A.M. Lane and Sarah E. Lane > on the later Fluvanna census they are back in Virginia and the > census shows them to be born in Alabama. > Fannie married a Widower,Edwin or Edward Cosby who was from Louisa > County. After his death, Fannie was living > with my Pace family as a boarder in 1900..( My mother referred to > her as Aunt Fannie) in my family there was a story That > Aunt Fannie burned to death while drying her hair in the fireplace. > This must have taken place bet 1900 and 1910 > because she was not living with my family in 1910,when Overton Ashby > Pace was listed as head of Household. > He was killed in December of 1910 and the family moved from there. > as I have previously stated Edward Cosby attested to the facts on an > application for my grgrandmother, Mary Ann Herndon Robinson, > Rebecca Ann Robinson, who married John walker Pace b. 1843 > > Sarah E. Lane married James Houchens, son of John Chiles Houchens > and all of these people are living close to my family. > > Could there be a connection to these Paces in Louisiana on the 1930 > census > > Farmerville, Union, La > > E. L. Pace Head b. abt. 1851 Louisiana > A. L. Pace Father b. abt. 1851 > Elizabeth Pace mother, b. abt. 1854 > Jack Pace brother, b. abt. 1892( Jack Alymer Flannagan Pace??) > Clarice Pace sister-in-law b. abt. 1906 > > additional info. > WW I Draft cards 1917-1918 > Jack Pace > b. June 12, 1892 > Registration place, Union, La > White > b. Louisiana > > Louisiana Death Index > jack Pace > Death Date- 23 JUne 1945 > Estimated Birth: 1892 > Age 53 years > Race- white or Mexican( white) > Parish- Lincoln > Certificate 901 > Volume 20 > Title: Louisiana Statewide Death Indices 1945-1949 > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please > remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we > can stay in touch! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1790 - Release Date: 11/15/2008 9:32 AM

Isabella Pace b. 1822 is on the 1870 Fluvanna co Census with Andrew Pace and family Isabella Pace b. 1854 is on the 1870 Richmond ,Va census with John A. Hall and Family Anyone Connect.? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch!

Roy, here is a good webpage site that tells so much more than the last page you went to, and in more detail about black slaves marrying white slaves in VA. I did NOT know there were white women as slaves. I found this with googling and it may be where I can find my GGG Grandfather JONES descendants, IF I had the census going back that far. Here is the website URL: www.freeafricanamericans.com. This was written by two men who did NOT say they were white, black, or mulatto, etc. Will this go to all the PACE family ? I hope so. All I found on anything lcose to PACE was Frances/Francis Payne, a black man who married a white woman- Amy? unknown Yhey were married, so it said , by Sept 1656. I am sure this was in Colonial VA. I was NOT looking for PACE family- I was looking for JONES Family of my Grandmother, mother of my Mother- JONES married KING. Hope this enlightens someone. Addie

I second that. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lois Long Carey Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL (Clifford Raymond PACE 1947 - 2008) Jon, All of us are so very sorry to hear of your loss. What a terrible shock it must have been. God Bless you and your family. You are in our prayers. Lois Carey * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Pace" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden,AL (Clifford Raymond PACE 1947 - 2008) > Sadly, this was my beloved brother Ray. He died suddenly from a massive > heart attack about three hours after he hugged my neck, said "I love you" > and "I'll see you Thursday". > > He was a son of George Ransom PACE & Sybil Ruth SENSING and a 4th great > grandson of Burrell PACE & Lydia WOODRUFF. > > Jonathan A. Pace > Marietta, GA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Sarah > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL > > Pace, Clifford Ray > > Clifford Ray Pace, 61, Cedar Bluff, died Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008. > > > > Funeral services will be 2 p.m. today at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. > Burial will follow in the adjoining cemetery. Perry Funeral Home is in > charge of arrangements. > > Published in The Gadsden Times on 11/18/2008 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/19/2008 8:58 AM

I am so sorry for your loss.  I am sure you have many wonderful memories and I pray they will comfort you and your family through this time.  JD Frazie --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Jon Pace <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jon Pace <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL (Clifford Raymond PACE 1947 - 2008) To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 7:29 PM Sadly, this was my beloved brother Ray. He died suddenly from a massive heart attack about three hours after he hugged my neck, said "I love you" and "I'll see you Thursday". He was a son of George Ransom PACE & Sybil Ruth SENSING and a 4th great grandson of Burrell PACE & Lydia WOODRUFF. Jonathan A. Pace Marietta, GA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL Pace, Clifford Ray Clifford Ray Pace, 61, Cedar Bluff, died Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. today at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. Burial will follow in the adjoining cemetery. Perry Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Published in The Gadsden Times on 11/18/2008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jon, All of us are so very sorry to hear of your loss. What a terrible shock it must have been. God Bless you and your family. You are in our prayers. Lois Carey * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Pace" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden,AL (Clifford Raymond PACE 1947 - 2008) > Sadly, this was my beloved brother Ray. He died suddenly from a massive > heart attack about three hours after he hugged my neck, said "I love you" > and "I'll see you Thursday". > > He was a son of George Ransom PACE & Sybil Ruth SENSING and a 4th great > grandson of Burrell PACE & Lydia WOODRUFF. > > Jonathan A. Pace > Marietta, GA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Sarah > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL > > Pace, Clifford Ray > > Clifford Ray Pace, 61, Cedar Bluff, died Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008. > > > > Funeral services will be 2 p.m. today at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. > Burial will follow in the adjoining cemetery. Perry Funeral Home is in > charge of arrangements. > > Published in The Gadsden Times on 11/18/2008 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sadly, this was my beloved brother Ray. He died suddenly from a massive heart attack about three hours after he hugged my neck, said "I love you" and "I'll see you Thursday". He was a son of George Ransom PACE & Sybil Ruth SENSING and a 4th great grandson of Burrell PACE & Lydia WOODRUFF. Jonathan A. Pace Marietta, GA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] Pace Obit from Gadsden, AL Pace, Clifford Ray Clifford Ray Pace, 61, Cedar Bluff, died Sunday, Nov. 16, 2008. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. today at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church. Burial will follow in the adjoining cemetery. Perry Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Published in The Gadsden Times on 11/18/2008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message