Oops. Clearly time to take a break. I got the Smart family confused with the Sparks family, and in that way got to entirely the wrong conclusion. Apologies! James (retires red-faced) --- On Thu, 1/29/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] Smart's Fort, Aycock, Pace > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:04 AM > The 1807 deed from Randolph Traylor to Needham Sorrell is > witnessed by William Sparks, who sold the land to Traylor > (September 19, 1797). > > William Sparks was a son of Matthew Sparks, who with other > settlers built Sparks Fort, as stated in his pension > application. In spite of which, Matthew Sparks died in a > Creek Indian attack on Sparks Fort in 1793. > > Then I read in various place that Sparks Fort is where > William Aycock lived, with his daughter Winifred Aycock Lane > and son-in-law Jesse Lane. William Aycock was Rebecca > Pace's second husband. I looked to see if this could be > verified. Turns out that William Aycock's son Richard > (son of Rebecca Pace) married Mary Smart, daughter of Peter > Smart. > > I haven't been able to determine the relationship > between Peter Smart and the Matthew Smart who with other > settlers built Smart's Fort, but clearly there WAS a > relationship, since they appear in deeds together. > > Richard Aycock's will was proved in Warren Co NC 5 May > 1788. It names, among others, his daughters Ann Acock Smart > and Piety Acock Smart. I have not yet discovered which > Smarts they married. > > Evidently, part of Rebecca Pace's Aycock family was > indeed living around the Smart's Fort area. So the > question becomes, what was the relationship between William > Pace who witnessed the Traylor-Sorrell deed, and this family > of Richard Pace's grandchildren/great-grandchildren > living apparently within spitting distance? > > Interesting. > > James > > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > > Subject: [PACE] Needham Sorrell of Wake Co NC and > Oglethorpe Co GA > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 10:48 AM > > "Clarke Co. GA Bk. D 1807-1809 pp. 224-225 > > This indenture made this third day of January in the > year > > of our Lord on thousand eight hundred & seven > between > > Randolph TRAYLOR of the County of Clark & State of > > Georgia of the one part & Needham SORREL of the > County > > of Oglethorpe & State aforesaid of the other. > > Witnesseth that the said Randolph TRAYLOR for and in > > consideration of the sum of four hundred Dollars in > hand > > paid by the said Needham SORRELS , the receipt whereof > is > > hereby acknowledged have bargained & sold and by > these > > presents do bargain , sell and Deliver unto Needham > SORRELS > > a certain tract of Land containing one hundred acres > lying > > and being in the County and State aforesad on the > waters of > > the Oconee. Known by the name of Shole Creek > beginning at a > > stake at the Creek Running S70W thirteen Chain 50 > links to a > > Black Gum, thence So25W 25 chs. to a post oak corner. > > Thence S25W 36 chain to a white oak on the branch > thence > > down tha meanders of said Branch to the Creek. Thence > up > > the > > meanders of said Creek to the Beginning Cointaing one > > hundred acres more or less to have and to hold the > daid > > Bargained Land and premises with the appurtenances > thereof > > & every part thereof and warrant & defend the > same > > against the Claimn of all persons whatsoever unto the > sd. > > Needham SORRELS his heirs and assigns forever. In > Witness > > where of the said Randolph TRAYLOR have hereunto set > his > > hand and seal the day and year above Written . > > > > > R. TRAYLOR {seal} Edie TRAYLOR {seal} > > sealed, signed and delivered In Presents of us. > > Jimmy SIMS Wm. (his + mark) SPARKS Wm. (his X > mark) > > PACE > > > > Georgia Clark County William PACE personally > appeared > > before me a justice of Peace of 7 for the county > aforesaid > > and made oath agreeably to Law that he saw Randolph > TRAYLOR > > and Edie TRAYLOR sign seal and acknowledge the within > deed > > of conveyance ... > > Sworn before me this 14th day Novr. 1807. > > William (his X mark) PACE" > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Because of the location on Shoal Creek, I am supposing > that > > this William Pace was, or was related to, William Pace > m. > > Ruth Lambert. If this is an error, I would be > grateful to > > be corrected. > > > > Needham Sorrell appears to have come from Wake Co NC: > > > > "1799, Page 125 Wake Co., NC Deed Book Q: George > > Waldrope & James Waldrope of Wake Co., planters, > to > > William Sorrel of same, April 19, 1799, for 80 dollars > a > > tract of 100 acres lying on both sides of Brier Creek > > adjoining Edward Sorrel. Wit: John Medearis, Needham > > Sorrel." > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

The 1807 deed from Randolph Traylor to Needham Sorrell is witnessed by William Sparks, who sold the land to Traylor (September 19, 1797). William Sparks was a son of Matthew Sparks, who with other settlers built Sparks Fort, as stated in his pension application. In spite of which, Matthew Sparks died in a Creek Indian attack on Sparks Fort in 1793. Then I read in various place that Sparks Fort is where William Aycock lived, with his daughter Winifred Aycock Lane and son-in-law Jesse Lane. William Aycock was Rebecca Pace's second husband. I looked to see if this could be verified. Turns out that William Aycock's son Richard (son of Rebecca Pace) married Mary Smart, daughter of Peter Smart. I haven't been able to determine the relationship between Peter Smart and the Matthew Smart who with other settlers built Smart's Fort, but clearly there WAS a relationship, since they appear in deeds together. Richard Aycock's will was proved in Warren Co NC 5 May 1788. It names, among others, his daughters Ann Acock Smart and Piety Acock Smart. I have not yet discovered which Smarts they married. Evidently, part of Rebecca Pace's Aycock family was indeed living around the Smart's Fort area. So the question becomes, what was the relationship between William Pace who witnessed the Traylor-Sorrell deed, and this family of Richard Pace's grandchildren/great-grandchildren living apparently within spitting distance? Interesting. James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] Needham Sorrell of Wake Co NC and Oglethorpe Co GA > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 10:48 AM > "Clarke Co. GA Bk. D 1807-1809 pp. 224-225 > This indenture made this third day of January in the year > of our Lord on thousand eight hundred & seven between > Randolph TRAYLOR of the County of Clark & State of > Georgia of the one part & Needham SORREL of the County > of Oglethorpe & State aforesaid of the other. > Witnesseth that the said Randolph TRAYLOR for and in > consideration of the sum of four hundred Dollars in hand > paid by the said Needham SORRELS , the receipt whereof is > hereby acknowledged have bargained & sold and by these > presents do bargain , sell and Deliver unto Needham SORRELS > a certain tract of Land containing one hundred acres lying > and being in the County and State aforesad on the waters of > the Oconee. Known by the name of Shole Creek beginning at a > stake at the Creek Running S70W thirteen Chain 50 links to a > Black Gum, thence So25W 25 chs. to a post oak corner. > Thence S25W 36 chain to a white oak on the branch thence > down tha meanders of said Branch to the Creek. Thence up > the > meanders of said Creek to the Beginning Cointaing one > hundred acres more or less to have and to hold the daid > Bargained Land and premises with the appurtenances thereof > & every part thereof and warrant & defend the same > against the Claimn of all persons whatsoever unto the sd. > Needham SORRELS his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness > where of the said Randolph TRAYLOR have hereunto set his > hand and seal the day and year above Written . > > R. TRAYLOR {seal} Edie TRAYLOR {seal} > sealed, signed and delivered In Presents of us. > Jimmy SIMS Wm. (his + mark) SPARKS Wm. (his X mark) > PACE > > Georgia Clark County William PACE personally appeared > before me a justice of Peace of 7 for the county aforesaid > and made oath agreeably to Law that he saw Randolph TRAYLOR > and Edie TRAYLOR sign seal and acknowledge the within deed > of conveyance ... > Sworn before me this 14th day Novr. 1807. > William (his X mark) PACE" > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Because of the location on Shoal Creek, I am supposing that > this William Pace was, or was related to, William Pace m. > Ruth Lambert. If this is an error, I would be grateful to > be corrected. > > Needham Sorrell appears to have come from Wake Co NC: > > "1799, Page 125 Wake Co., NC Deed Book Q: George > Waldrope & James Waldrope of Wake Co., planters, to > William Sorrel of same, April 19, 1799, for 80 dollars a > tract of 100 acres lying on both sides of Brier Creek > adjoining Edward Sorrel. Wit: John Medearis, Needham > Sorrel." > > James > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > In other words, Elisha Thomas (whose daughter married John > Hayles) was a stepson of William Pace. (But which William > Pace?) I've now gone through the deeds and now I see that the William Pace who married Barnaby Thomas' widow was William, son of Richard and Rebecca. Apologies to those who already know all this; please bear with me while I get it clear in my head. "1761 Feb 11 Elisha THOMAS of Johnston County to Benjamin BRANCH of Northampton county, 75 pounds Virginia money, 204 acres which had been a patent to Benjamin THOMAS 1 May 1668 on Little Swamp on NS of Roanoake river joining John GREEN, wit Wm PACE, Solomon PACE, Wm PACE Jr. DB 3 page 297 Northampton (12)" Evidently, the witness William Pace is the son of Richard and Rebecca, and the witness William Pace Jr is William Pace Sr's son. William Pace's will (proved 1775) named his wife as Celia, not Sarah. Perhaps Celia was his second wife. If so, which wife was mother of his children? Benjamin Thomas may have been the father of Barnaby Thomas (and thus Elisha's grandfather). A Benjamin Thomas apears with Barnaby Thomas in the following deed: "10 May 1723: Lazarus Whitehead & wife Mary of Isle of Wight VA to Barnaby Thomas - 15 pds. for 150 acres on Holly Creek by patent 01 Mar 1719. Wts: William Whitehead, Benjamin Thomas, William Murphey." Here is Elisha Thomas selling 200 acres proclamation to Solomon Pace (son of William Pace, grandson of Richard and Rebecca): "1762 Sept 4 Wm PACE, Wm. PACE Jr. & Jos.(?) THOMAS witness deed of Barnabe THOMAS to Solomon PACE both of Northampton, 20 pounds proclamation 200 acres which said THOMAS had purchased from John DARSON [presumably DAWSON] joining Holly Bush Swamp. DB 3 page 355 Northampton (129)" And before long, Solomon sells it on to William Edwards: "1763 July 5 Solomon PACE to William EDWARDS both of Northampton 30 pounds proclamation for 200 acres which sd PACE had purchased from Barnabe THOMAS, joining Holly Bush Swamp. Wit William PACE, Celia (x) PACE DB 3 pg 456 Northampton (129)" Edwards, too, loses little time before selling it on to Thomas Wilson, no doubt for a nice little profit. Anybody ever going to actually use this land? "1765 Aug 13 Wm EDWARDS to Thomas WILSON both of Northampton 50 pounds proclamation for 200 acres which sd EDWARDS purchased from Solomon PACE, joining Holly Bush Swamp wit Chas. BRYAN, Thos. BOON DB 3 pg 629 Northampton (129)" Speculation is the name of the game. James

To recap: Charity Alston Dawson was the wife of Col. John Dawson, who was brother-in-law of Barnaby Thomas, whose widow married William Pace. Charity Alston had a brother Joseph John Alston. Both of them are mentioned in the will (proved 1758 Chowan Co) of their father John Alston. Feb 1745, Edgecombe Co: Wm. Pace came into court and chose Capt. Joseph John Alston his guardian who accordingly appointed Ordd. That the sd. Alston give security in the sume of 100 pounds Proc. Ordd. That Capn Alston ret. An inventory &c. Capt. Alston Dr. Book 1 page 12 Edgecombe (145) But which Wm. Pace? James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] John Hayles, Elisha Thomas, William Pace > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 12:26 PM > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As I understand it, James Pace sold land in Clarke Co > GA to > > John Hailes in 1808. > > The will of John Hayles of Johnston Co NC was written 15 > March 1808. I don't know the date it was proved. John > Hayles was married to Cynthia Thomas, daughter of Elisha > Thomas whose will (1803) named his daughter Cynthia Hayles. > > Elisha Thomas was a son of Barnaby Thomas d. Bertie Co > 1740. > > "1740 Lres. Tuition granted to Wm. PACE over Barbarey > THOS. & Elisha > THOMAS orphans of Barnaby THOMAS. Gtving sec. Therefor in > the sume of 5000 pounds > ordered that Ann THOMAS widow and Admx. Of Philip THOMAS be > notyfyd to return > an acct. of her admin. On the estate of said dec'd. > page 322 Bertie county (128)" > > Philip Thomas was a brother of Barnaby Thomas, whose will > (proved 1735) mentions wife Sarah, brother Philip Thomas, > brother-in-law John Dawson, son Elisha, and unborn child. > Exc Philip Thomas, wil proved by Col. John Dawson. > > Evidently, Philip Thomas died too, and Ann Thomas ended up > administratrix of both brothers. > > "1741 Aug Current account report on the estate of > Barnabee THOMAS by Ann THOMAS legacies were also bequeathed > by the will of the dec'd to his widow Sarah THOMAS now > the wife of Wm PACE page 180 Bertie County (127)" > > In other words, Elisha Thomas (whose daughter married John > Hayles) was a stepson of William Pace. (But which William > Pace?) > > That's why I think it would be interesting to know if > the John Hailes who bought land from James Pace in GA in > 1808 was the son of the John Hayles who died in Johnston Co > NC around 1803. > > I have read that Hardy Pace married a Lucy Thomas. The > will of Elisha Thomas mentions his daughter Lucy but she is > Lucy Lockhart (Thomas m. Osborne Lockhart Johnston Co NC 18 > Nov 1793) so Hardy Pace's wife must have been a > different Lucy Thomas. > > Col. John Dawson, who proved Barnaby Thomas' will, was > I believe the father of Henry Dawson who bought land from > Thomas Hart and wife Patience in Edgecombe in 1762 -- > witnesses John and Richard Pace. The will of Col. John > Dawson, proved Northampton Co 1762, mentions his son Henry > Dawson, as does the will of Col. John Dawson's wife > Charity Alston Dawson, pr. 1764. Henry's sister > Elizabeth married a Kinchen but who didn't? > > James > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > As I understand it, James Pace sold land in Clarke Co GA to > John Hailes in 1808. The will of John Hayles of Johnston Co NC was written 15 March 1808. I don't know the date it was proved. John Hayles was married to Cynthia Thomas, daughter of Elisha Thomas whose will (1803) named his daughter Cynthia Hayles. Elisha Thomas was a son of Barnaby Thomas d. Bertie Co 1740. "1740 Lres. Tuition granted to Wm. PACE over Barbarey THOS. & Elisha THOMAS orphans of Barnaby THOMAS. Gtving sec. Therefor in the sume of 5000 pounds ordered that Ann THOMAS widow and Admx. Of Philip THOMAS be notyfyd to return an acct. of her admin. On the estate of said dec'd. page 322 Bertie county (128)" Philip Thomas was a brother of Barnaby Thomas, whose will (proved 1735) mentions wife Sarah, brother Philip Thomas, brother-in-law John Dawson, son Elisha, and unborn child. Exc Philip Thomas, wil proved by Col. John Dawson. Evidently, Philip Thomas died too, and Ann Thomas ended up administratrix of both brothers. "1741 Aug Current account report on the estate of Barnabee THOMAS by Ann THOMAS legacies were also bequeathed by the will of the dec'd to his widow Sarah THOMAS now the wife of Wm PACE page 180 Bertie County (127)" In other words, Elisha Thomas (whose daughter married John Hayles) was a stepson of William Pace. (But which William Pace?) That's why I think it would be interesting to know if the John Hailes who bought land from James Pace in GA in 1808 was the son of the John Hayles who died in Johnston Co NC around 1803. I have read that Hardy Pace married a Lucy Thomas. The will of Elisha Thomas mentions his daughter Lucy but she is Lucy Lockhart (Thomas m. Osborne Lockhart Johnston Co NC 18 Nov 1793) so Hardy Pace's wife must have been a different Lucy Thomas. Col. John Dawson, who proved Barnaby Thomas' will, was I believe the father of Henry Dawson who bought land from Thomas Hart and wife Patience in Edgecombe in 1762 -- witnesses John and Richard Pace. The will of Col. John Dawson, proved Northampton Co 1762, mentions his son Henry Dawson, as does the will of Col. John Dawson's wife Charity Alston Dawson, pr. 1764. Henry's sister Elizabeth married a Kinchen but who didn't? James

I am wondering about the name "Obed Hail" in the following record: "Clarke Co., GA Militia Fines & Oaths, 1804-1831: Militia Fines 1809-1819 (No specific dates are given), pg. 112 lists Needham SORRELL Militia Records from Clark Co., GA which are not at the GA Dept of Archives and History. These records are compiled from microfilm copy reel 281-71 at the GA Archives. Given below are the names and years that appear on each record. Almost all of these documents are excuses for failing to appear for militia duty or, usuallly in the 1820's, lists of person who failed to show up for drill and losse, individual, signed commissions., pg 203: Needham SORRELL and Obed Hail, 1816; Captain William L. Parr's District: Needham SORREL, 27 Dec 1816. " As I understand it, James Pace sold land in Clarke Co GA to John Hailes in 1808. I'm wondering if "Obed Hail" could have been related to John Hailes. Obediah Hail and John Hailes are both listed as "persons entitled to draw" in the GA land lottery 1805. Might be different families. James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] Needham Sorrell of Wake Co NC and Oglethorpe Co GA > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 10:48 AM > "Clarke Co. GA Bk. D 1807-1809 pp. 224-225 > This indenture made this third day of January in the year > of our Lord on thousand eight hundred & seven between > Randolph TRAYLOR of the County of Clark & State of > Georgia of the one part & Needham SORREL of the County > of Oglethorpe & State aforesaid of the other. > Witnesseth that the said Randolph TRAYLOR for and in > consideration of the sum of four hundred Dollars in hand > paid by the said Needham SORRELS , the receipt whereof is > hereby acknowledged have bargained & sold and by these > presents do bargain , sell and Deliver unto Needham SORRELS > a certain tract of Land containing one hundred acres lying > and being in the County and State aforesad on the waters of > the Oconee. Known by the name of Shole Creek beginning at a > stake at the Creek Running S70W thirteen Chain 50 links to a > Black Gum, thence So25W 25 chs. to a post oak corner. > Thence S25W 36 chain to a white oak on the branch thence > down tha meanders of said Branch to the Creek. Thence up > the > meanders of said Creek to the Beginning Cointaing one > hundred acres more or less to have and to hold the daid > Bargained Land and premises with the appurtenances thereof > & every part thereof and warrant & defend the same > against the Claimn of all persons whatsoever unto the sd. > Needham SORRELS his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness > where of the said Randolph TRAYLOR have hereunto set his > hand and seal the day and year above Written . > > R. TRAYLOR {seal} Edie TRAYLOR {seal} > sealed, signed and delivered In Presents of us. > Jimmy SIMS Wm. (his + mark) SPARKS Wm. (his X mark) > PACE > > Georgia Clark County William PACE personally appeared > before me a justice of Peace of 7 for the county aforesaid > and made oath agreeably to Law that he saw Randolph TRAYLOR > and Edie TRAYLOR sign seal and acknowledge the within deed > of conveyance ... > Sworn before me this 14th day Novr. 1807. > William (his X mark) PACE" > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Because of the location on Shoal Creek, I am supposing that > this William Pace was, or was related to, William Pace m. > Ruth Lambert. If this is an error, I would be grateful to > be corrected. > > Needham Sorrell appears to have come from Wake Co NC: > > "1799, Page 125 Wake Co., NC Deed Book Q: George > Waldrope & James Waldrope of Wake Co., planters, to > William Sorrel of same, April 19, 1799, for 80 dollars a > tract of 100 acres lying on both sides of Brier Creek > adjoining Edward Sorrel. Wit: John Medearis, Needham > Sorrel." > > James > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Rebecca, thanks for the information. I've read that Needham Sorrell also went to Dyer Co. TN and died there but no source was cited so I don't know if it's proved. James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> > Subject: Fw: Re: [PACE] Bird Nance of Rutherford Co. TN > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:03 AM > James, >    Some of the Paces and McCulloughs (Susannah > Nance's descendants) later move to Dyer Co., TN too.  > > Rebecca > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Rebecca Christensen > <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] Bird Nance of Rutherford Co. TN > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 8:59 AM > > James, >    This is one of my other Rutherford Co., TN lines.  I > descend through Reuben's daughter Susannah Nance who > married Alexander McCullough.   > > Rebecca > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] Bird Nance of Rutherford Co. TN > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 8:19 AM > > Another interesting item: Reuben Nance, who patented land > adj Lambert (see > below) named a son Bird Nance. (William Nance, the father > of Reuben, mentions > two Lanier daughters, so Bird Nance might have been named > after Bird Thomas > Lanier.) > > According to a webpage at > http://patriot.net/~crouch/0thers/bird.html, > > "Bird Nance b. 24 Jul 1772 Mecklenberg Co, VA, son of > Reuben Nance and Amy > Williamson. > m. 17 Sep 1794 Pittsylvania Co, VA, Polly Hannah > 1796/1797 moved to Rutherford Co, TN, 1797 Ensign in TN > Militia. 1810 > Rutherford Co, Census, 1811 Recieved Capt. Commission, 1812 > in Battle of > New Orleans. Died in route home near natchez MS. 1815 > Will Probated in Rutherford Co, TN" > > James > > > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > > Subject: [PACE] William Lambert, Joshua Mabry, Richard > Pace > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 6:27 AM > > --- On Mon, 1/26/09, James Blair > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The 400 acre tract which was patented by William > > Lambert 15 > > > Aug 1764 in Lunenburg was > described as "adjoinint > > > Nance, and Fox’s lines". > > > > I suggest the adjoining tract was the one patented by > > William Nance in 1756: > > > > 16 Aug 1756, Lunenberg Co., William Nance patented 400 > > acres "on the branches of Roanoak River adjoining > > Hickman, Fox &c." > > > > Here is another reference to Lambert land in Lunenburg > > adjoining land of William Nance: > > > > 05 Jun 1765, Joseph Lambert, Lunenburg Co., "240 > acres > > on the south side of the long branch of Great Creek > > adjoining William Nance, and John Lamberts > lines." > > > > Here is an abstract of the will of William Nance, > proved 25 > > Feb 1771Brunswick Co. VA: > > > > "November the 17th, 1770. I, William Nance, of > the > > Parish of Meherrin in the County of Brunswick > > ...son Isham Nance ... two hundred acres of land lying > in > > Mecklenburg County adjacent > to Reuben Nance and William Fox > > ...son John Nance ... land I now live on, also three > > hundred and ninety acres of land lying in Mecklenburg > County > > adjacent to Drury Malone and Edward Epps > > ...son Reuben Nance ... two hundred acres of land > whereon > > he now lives being the upper part adjacent to Richard > > Warthin > > ...daughter Elizabeth Glover ... daughter Tabitha > Nance ... > > daughter Mary Lanier ... daughter Sarah Lanier ... my > > Sagathy coat to John Lanier. ... my three sons, Isham, > John > > and Reuben, executors. Wits. Joseph Floyd John Nipper > > Benjamin Walker" > > > > Tabitha, the daughter of William Nance, married > Stephen > > Mabry, son (according to Pritchett, SVG p1523) of > Joshua > > Mabry. Joshua Mabry patented 226a in Brunswick Co. > > "both sides of the Three Creeks" 12 July > 1750. He > > patented 145a in Lunenburg Co "on the branches > of > > > Great Creek and Parham Creek, adjoining Langford, and > Timms > > lines." (See William Nance patent on Great > Creek, > > above, adj Lambert.) > > > > Joshua Mabry was a son of Hinchia Mabry (c. > 1697-1761), who > > married (1) Frances Parham (daughter of Lewis Parham); > (2) > > Ann Jackson, widow of Mark Jackson (see following post > to > > this list with subject line "Mark Jackson"); > (3) > > widow Ann Clack Courtney, daughter of Rev. James > Clack. > > > > A familiar deed: > > > > "Indenture made 27 March 1750, between Nathaniel > > Bradford Son and heir of John Bradford deceased and > Richard > > Moore both of North Carolina, and Hinchia Mabry of > Brunswick > > County, Whereas the sd. John Bradford in his Lifetime > was > > seized in Fee of and in one certain Tract or Parcel of > Land > > lying & being in the County aforesaid between the > three > > Creeks and the Otterdam Swamp containing > 680a, and died so > > Seised without makeing any Disposition thereof after > whose > > Death the sd. Nathaniel Bradford as his Eldest Son and > Heir > > entred into the said Land and was also Seised thereof > in Fee > > and being so Seised by Deed duly executed and Recorded > in > > the General Court of the sd. Colony Sold & > Conveyed the > > same to the said Richard Moore who has since agreed > > with the said Hinchia Mabry to sell and Convey the sd. > > Lands to him and whereas the said Nathaniel Bradford > at the > > Time of making and executing the Conveiance aforesaid > to the > > sd. Richard Moore was under the age of twenty one > Years but > > is since arrived to full age & is desirous & > Willing > > to confirm and make good the said Sale to the sd. > Richard > > testified by his being a Party to these presents, > £120, > > 680a, bounded by the several course contained in a > Pattent > > formerly > granted to one Richard Pace dated 5 November 1724 > > of 1220a of which the sd. 680a is a Part, and conveyed > by > > the said Richard Pace to the sd. John Bradford > deceased in > > his Lifetime by deeds of Lease and Release > acknowledged and > > Recorded 7 June 1733. Signed Nathaniel Bradford, > Richard > > Moore. Wit: Lewis Parham, James Boisseau, Nicholas > > Edmunds. Court March 27, 1750, Indenture acknowledged > > by Nathaniel Bradford & Richard Moore. Deed Book > 4, > > Page 11." > > > > From the above it seems probably that William Lambert > (m. > > Martha), the father of William Pace's wife Ruth > Lambert, > > may have known the Paces through association with the > > Mabrys, plus other mutual Brunswick Co associations. > > Consequently it seems to me also probable that when > William > > Lambert patented land in Wake Co adjoining the two > different > > William Paces, he or his > relations already knew (perhaps > > were already related to) the Paces and other > associated > > families in NC. > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the > body of the message

"Clarke Co. GA Bk. D 1807-1809 pp. 224-225 This indenture made this third day of January in the year of our Lord on thousand eight hundred & seven between Randolph TRAYLOR of the County of Clark & State of Georgia of the one part & Needham SORREL of the County of Oglethorpe & State aforesaid of the other. Witnesseth that the said Randolph TRAYLOR for and in consideration of the sum of four hundred Dollars in hand paid by the said Needham SORRELS , the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged have bargained & sold and by these presents do bargain , sell and Deliver unto Needham SORRELS a certain tract of Land containing one hundred acres lying and being in the County and State aforesad on the waters of the Oconee. Known by the name of Shole Creek beginning at a stake at the Creek Running S70W thirteen Chain 50 links to a Black Gum, thence So25W 25 chs. to a post oak corner. Thence S25W 36 chain to a white oak on the branch thence down tha meanders of said Branch to the Creek. Thence up the meanders of said Creek to the Beginning Cointaing one hundred acres more or less to have and to hold the daid Bargained Land and premises with the appurtenances thereof & every part thereof and warrant & defend the same against the Claimn of all persons whatsoever unto the sd. Needham SORRELS his heirs and assigns forever. In Witness where of the said Randolph TRAYLOR have hereunto set his hand and seal the day and year above Written . R. TRAYLOR {seal} Edie TRAYLOR {seal} sealed, signed and delivered In Presents of us. Jimmy SIMS Wm. (his + mark) SPARKS Wm. (his X mark) PACE Georgia Clark County William PACE personally appeared before me a justice of Peace of 7 for the county aforesaid and made oath agreeably to Law that he saw Randolph TRAYLOR and Edie TRAYLOR sign seal and acknowledge the within deed of conveyance ... Sworn before me this 14th day Novr. 1807. William (his X mark) PACE" ----------------------------------------------------------- Because of the location on Shoal Creek, I am supposing that this William Pace was, or was related to, William Pace m. Ruth Lambert. If this is an error, I would be grateful to be corrected. Needham Sorrell appears to have come from Wake Co NC: "1799, Page 125 Wake Co., NC Deed Book Q: George Waldrope & James Waldrope of Wake Co., planters, to William Sorrel of same, April 19, 1799, for 80 dollars a tract of 100 acres lying on both sides of Brier Creek adjoining Edward Sorrel. Wit: John Medearis, Needham Sorrel." James

--- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > Another interesting item: Reuben Nance, who patented land > adj Lambert (see below) named a son Bird Nance. (William > Nance, the father of Reuben, mentions two Lanier daughters, > so Bird Nance might have been named after Bird Thomas > Lanier.) John Lanier, who married Sarah Nance, and Frederick Lanier, who married Mary Nance, were sons of Benjamin B. Lanier. Benjamin B. Lanier and Bird Thomas Lanier were both sons of John Lanier and Elizabeth Byrd (granddaughter of William Byrd and Hannah Grendon). So presumably Bird Nance and Bird Thomas Lanier were each named after their grandmother Elizabeth Byrd. James

Another interesting item: Reuben Nance, who patented land adj Lambert (see below) named a son Bird Nance. (William Nance, the father of Reuben, mentions two Lanier daughters, so Bird Nance might have been named after Bird Thomas Lanier.) According to a webpage at http://patriot.net/~crouch/0thers/bird.html, "Bird Nance b. 24 Jul 1772 Mecklenberg Co, VA, son of Reuben Nance and Amy Williamson. m. 17 Sep 1794 Pittsylvania Co, VA, Polly Hannah 1796/1797 moved to Rutherford Co, TN, 1797 Ensign in TN Militia. 1810 Rutherford Co, Census, 1811 Recieved Capt. Commission, 1812 in Battle of New Orleans. Died in route home near natchez MS. 1815 Will Probated in Rutherford Co, TN" James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] William Lambert, Joshua Mabry, Richard Pace > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 6:27 AM > --- On Mon, 1/26/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The 400 acre tract which was patented by William > Lambert 15 > > Aug 1764 in Lunenburg was described as "adjoinint > > Nance, and Fox’s lines". > > I suggest the adjoining tract was the one patented by > William Nance in 1756: > > 16 Aug 1756, Lunenberg Co., William Nance patented 400 > acres "on the branches of Roanoak River adjoining > Hickman, Fox &c." > > Here is another reference to Lambert land in Lunenburg > adjoining land of William Nance: > > 05 Jun 1765, Joseph Lambert, Lunenburg Co., "240 acres > on the south side of the long branch of Great Creek > adjoining William Nance, and John Lamberts lines." > > Here is an abstract of the will of William Nance, proved 25 > Feb 1771Brunswick Co. VA: > > "November the 17th, 1770. I, William Nance, of the > Parish of Meherrin in the County of Brunswick > ...son Isham Nance ... two hundred acres of land lying in > Mecklenburg County adjacent to Reuben Nance and William Fox > ...son John Nance ... land I now live on, also three > hundred and ninety acres of land lying in Mecklenburg County > adjacent to Drury Malone and Edward Epps > ...son Reuben Nance ... two hundred acres of land whereon > he now lives being the upper part adjacent to Richard > Warthin > ...daughter Elizabeth Glover ... daughter Tabitha Nance ... > daughter Mary Lanier ... daughter Sarah Lanier ... my > Sagathy coat to John Lanier. ... my three sons, Isham, John > and Reuben, executors. Wits. Joseph Floyd John Nipper > Benjamin Walker" > > Tabitha, the daughter of William Nance, married Stephen > Mabry, son (according to Pritchett, SVG p1523) of Joshua > Mabry. Joshua Mabry patented 226a in Brunswick Co. > "both sides of the Three Creeks" 12 July 1750. He > patented 145a in Lunenburg Co "on the branches of > Great Creek and Parham Creek, adjoining Langford, and Timms > lines." (See William Nance patent on Great Creek, > above, adj Lambert.) > > Joshua Mabry was a son of Hinchia Mabry (c. 1697-1761), who > married (1) Frances Parham (daughter of Lewis Parham); (2) > Ann Jackson, widow of Mark Jackson (see following post to > this list with subject line "Mark Jackson"); (3) > widow Ann Clack Courtney, daughter of Rev. James Clack. > > A familiar deed: > > "Indenture made 27 March 1750, between Nathaniel > Bradford Son and heir of John Bradford deceased and Richard > Moore both of North Carolina, and Hinchia Mabry of Brunswick > County, Whereas the sd. John Bradford in his Lifetime was > seized in Fee of and in one certain Tract or Parcel of Land > lying & being in the County aforesaid between the three > Creeks and the Otterdam Swamp containing 680a, and died so > Seised without makeing any Disposition thereof after whose > Death the sd. Nathaniel Bradford as his Eldest Son and Heir > entred into the said Land and was also Seised thereof in Fee > and being so Seised by Deed duly executed and Recorded in > the General Court of the sd. Colony Sold & Conveyed the > same to the said Richard Moore who has since agreed > with the said Hinchia Mabry to sell and Convey the sd. > Lands to him and whereas the said Nathaniel Bradford at the > Time of making and executing the Conveiance aforesaid to the > sd. Richard Moore was under the age of twenty one Years but > is since arrived to full age & is desirous & Willing > to confirm and make good the said Sale to the sd. Richard > testified by his being a Party to these presents, £120, > 680a, bounded by the several course contained in a Pattent > formerly granted to one Richard Pace dated 5 November 1724 > of 1220a of which the sd. 680a is a Part, and conveyed by > the said Richard Pace to the sd. John Bradford deceased in > his Lifetime by deeds of Lease and Release acknowledged and > Recorded 7 June 1733. Signed Nathaniel Bradford, Richard > Moore. Wit: Lewis Parham, James Boisseau, Nicholas > Edmunds. Court March 27, 1750, Indenture acknowledged > by Nathaniel Bradford & Richard Moore. Deed Book 4, > Page 11." > > From the above it seems probably that William Lambert (m. > Martha), the father of William Pace's wife Ruth Lambert, > may have known the Paces through association with the > Mabrys, plus other mutual Brunswick Co associations. > Consequently it seems to me also probable that when William > Lambert patented land in Wake Co adjoining the two different > William Paces, he or his relations already knew (perhaps > were already related to) the Paces and other associated > families in NC. > > James > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Correction: Ann Jackson was the widow of Ambrose Jackson, not Mark. Her maiden name is said to have been Broadnax, but I don't know if that's proved. Ambrose Jacksons will was proved 5 Dec 1745; issue Ambrose, John, Henry, Tabitha and Ann. With such a common name as "John Jackson", good evidence is needed. He is SAID to have been the John Jackson whose will, proved in Anson Co. NC in 1768, named his children including Jemima Jackson who married (belatedly) John Lambert Sr of Mecklenburg Co. Mark Lambert Jackson was the son of Jemima Jackson and John Lambert Sr who regrettably seems to have been married to somebody else at the time his son was born. Mark Lambert Jackson was grown and married to Drucilla Rainey (8 Nov 1784, Mecklenburg Co, Francis Rainey security) before his parents finally married. Drucilla Rainey was apparently a daughter of Francis Rainey and Ann Rottenberry. A Francis Rainey married Judith Lambert (half-sister of Mark Lambert Jackson) 7 Jan 1797. I don't know which Francis Rainey was Drucilla's security. There is also a Wynn connection: "Deed Book 10 page 164-Meck.Co.Va.14 Oct.1799 Peter Wynn and Mary, his wife, of Brunswick Co.deed 500 acres in Mecklenburg Co., to their son, Peter, on both sides of Great Creek, bounded by Mark L.Jackson,Ellis Carrol,Thomas Booth,John Webb,estate of John Mustain(?)and Wm.Jones, subject to a dower as now laid off and assigned by Peter Wynn and wife,Mary, to Jemima Lambert, widow and relict of John Lambert." It seems likely Francis Rainey was related to William Rainey of Westover, and perhaps also related to the Wynns. James --- On Wed, 1/28/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > Joshua Mabry was a son of Hinchia Mabry (c. 1697-1761), who > married (1) Frances Parham (daughter of Lewis Parham); (2) > Ann Jackson, widow of Mark Jackson (see following post to > this list with subject line "Mark Jackson");

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > The 400 acre tract which was patented by William Lambert 15 > Aug 1764 in Lunenburg was described as "adjoinint > Nance, and Fox’s lines". I suggest the adjoining tract was the one patented by William Nance in 1756: 16 Aug 1756, Lunenberg Co., William Nance patented 400 acres "on the branches of Roanoak River adjoining Hickman, Fox &c." Here is another reference to Lambert land in Lunenburg adjoining land of William Nance: 05 Jun 1765, Joseph Lambert, Lunenburg Co., "240 acres on the south side of the long branch of Great Creek adjoining William Nance, and John Lamberts lines." Here is an abstract of the will of William Nance, proved 25 Feb 1771Brunswick Co. VA: "November the 17th, 1770. I, William Nance, of the Parish of Meherrin in the County of Brunswick ...son Isham Nance ... two hundred acres of land lying in Mecklenburg County adjacent to Reuben Nance and William Fox ...son John Nance ... land I now live on, also three hundred and ninety acres of land lying in Mecklenburg County adjacent to Drury Malone and Edward Epps ...son Reuben Nance ... two hundred acres of land whereon he now lives being the upper part adjacent to Richard Warthin ...daughter Elizabeth Glover ... daughter Tabitha Nance ... daughter Mary Lanier ... daughter Sarah Lanier ... my Sagathy coat to John Lanier. ... my three sons, Isham, John and Reuben, executors. Wits. Joseph Floyd John Nipper Benjamin Walker" Tabitha, the daughter of William Nance, married Stephen Mabry, son (according to Pritchett, SVG p1523) of Joshua Mabry. Joshua Mabry patented 226a in Brunswick Co. "both sides of the Three Creeks" 12 July 1750. He patented 145a in Lunenburg Co "on the branches of Great Creek and Parham Creek, adjoining Langford, and Timms lines." (See William Nance patent on Great Creek, above, adj Lambert.) Joshua Mabry was a son of Hinchia Mabry (c. 1697-1761), who married (1) Frances Parham (daughter of Lewis Parham); (2) Ann Jackson, widow of Mark Jackson (see following post to this list with subject line "Mark Jackson"); (3) widow Ann Clack Courtney, daughter of Rev. James Clack. A familiar deed: "Indenture made 27 March 1750, between Nathaniel Bradford Son and heir of John Bradford deceased and Richard Moore both of North Carolina, and Hinchia Mabry of Brunswick County, Whereas the sd. John Bradford in his Lifetime was seized in Fee of and in one certain Tract or Parcel of Land lying & being in the County aforesaid between the three Creeks and the Otterdam Swamp containing 680a, and died so Seised without makeing any Disposition thereof after whose Death the sd. Nathaniel Bradford as his Eldest Son and Heir entred into the said Land and was also Seised thereof in Fee and being so Seised by Deed duly executed and Recorded in the General Court of the sd. Colony Sold & Conveyed the same to the said Richard Moore who has since agreed with the said Hinchia Mabry to sell and Convey the sd. Lands to him and whereas the said Nathaniel Bradford at the Time of making and executing the Conveiance aforesaid to the sd. Richard Moore was under the age of twenty one Years but is since arrived to full age & is desirous & Willing to confirm and make good the said Sale to the sd. Richard testified by his being a Party to these presents, £120, 680a, bounded by the several course contained in a Pattent formerly granted to one Richard Pace dated 5 November 1724 of 1220a of which the sd. 680a is a Part, and conveyed by the said Richard Pace to the sd. John Bradford deceased in his Lifetime by deeds of Lease and Release acknowledged and Recorded 7 June 1733. Signed Nathaniel Bradford, Richard Moore. Wit: Lewis Parham, James Boisseau, Nicholas Edmunds. Court March 27, 1750, Indenture acknowledged by Nathaniel Bradford & Richard Moore. Deed Book 4, Page 11." >From the above it seems probably that William Lambert (m. Martha), the father of William Pace's wife Ruth Lambert, may have known the Paces through association with the Mabrys, plus other mutual Brunswick Co associations. Consequently it seems to me also probable that when William Lambert patented land in Wake Co adjoining the two different William Paces, he or his relations already knew (perhaps were already related to) the Paces and other associated families in NC. James

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > 24 MAR 1673 William Major on behalf of Mr. James Pace, > entered a claim against the estate of Clement Marsh for _16 > 10sh sterling. I wouldn't be surprised if "Mr. William Ma_____" in the record below might have been Mr William Major: "On 26 June 1671 before me Solomon Allen, notary publick of London, appeared Mr. James Poore of London, mariner, and appointed Mr. William Ma_____ planter, of York Co., in Va., and Mr. John Wilson of London, Circugeon, jointly his attornies to demand 14 pounds of Mr. Clement Marsh. Wit: Richard Fathers, William Wightman, Joseph Cooper Signed: James Poore Solomon Allen, Notary Publick" And here is Clement Marsh's letter to his brother Robert in London, asking him to pay the debt: "York River in Virginia, 2 Nov 1670 Brother: Ten days after sight of this my first bill of exchange, pay to Mr. James Poore or his order sum of 14 Pounds and you will oblige your loving brother and servant. Clement Marsh To: Mr. Robert Marsh at Mr. James Brookes, barber in Leadenhall Street, London" York County Records 1665 - 1672, Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger III 1987, p462, quoted on the Rootsweb Cooper list at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/COOPER/2001-08/0999024481 James

She died in Columbus GA in June 1881, according to an obituary posted at http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?pace::jackson::17048.html. I'm wondering who her parents were. An earlier Lowe Jackson seems to have been hanged for forgery: http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Summer07/counterfeit_sidebar.cfm James

Rebecca, thanks for that information. It's very possible that different Lambert branches have got mixed up, in Pritchett's account. The 400 acre tract in Lunenburg was patented in 1764. Pritchett attributes this patent to William Lambert (son of William and Sarah, christened 18 Nov 1743), presumably because 1764 was the year he turned 21. This William does not seem to have been Ruth's brother: William and Sarah had two daughters, neither named Ruth. A son of William and Sarah mentioned "my two sisters" in a letter, so there doesn't seem to be a sister missing. Since William (m. Martha) was probably father of Ruth, who needs to be born around mid-century, the Lunenburg land was probably patented by a different William Lambert, as you say. The William Lambert who was christened 15 June 1720 (son of Hugh and Ann Morgan) works datewise. However, Pritchett says he was "presumably" the William Lambert married to Mary who had five children christened in North Farnham Parish between 1741 and 1757. The dates work but the mother's name doesn't match. (And there's no child named Ruth but that doesn't prove there wasn't one born.) Perhaps Martha was his second wife. Or perhaps William (m. Mary) was not the same person as William (m. Martha). The 400 acre tract which was patented by William Lambert 15 Aug 1764 in Lunenburg was described as "adjoinint Nance, and Fox’s lines". Thomas Nance patented 400 acres on the same day. Thomas Nance was a descendant of the Nances of Prince George (Sarah Walpole, daughter of Caesar Walpole, married William Epps; together they sold to James Pace in 1717 land which Sarah inherited from her father.) In Mecklenburg Co., where William Lambert patented land in 1769 and (with wife Martha) sold it in 1777, there were Lambert connections with Wynns (associated earlier with known Pace associates such as Poythress) and Raineys (associated in Bristol Parish with Wynns, Stiths, and, yes, Lewis Green). As no doubt you know, Hugh Lambert (father of William chr. 1720) had land on Rocky Run in Brunswick Co., from which Lunenburg was cut, with Mecklenburg later cut from Lunenburg. Consequently, I'm wondering whether there might have been Pace-Lambert associations from an earlier period, which might have persisted into NC. If so, the fact that William Lambert (m. Martha) patented land adj two Pace families could be in part due to earlier association, not simply due to chance. James --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] Ruth Lambert > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 11:25 PM > James, > The William Lambert who was baptized (christened) 18 > November 1743 at North Farnham, Richmond Co., VA was Ruth > Lambert's brother William, not her father William. > Ruth and William were children of William Lambert and his > wife Martha. Ruth and William's father William > Lambert was born 15 June 1720 at North Farnham, so there is > not an age problem - he was not a very young grandfather. > There is a deed record dated 11 August 1777 in > Mecklenburg County, Virginia where William Lambert and > Martha his wife of Wake County, North Carolina, sold 143 > acres of land to William Fox of Mecklenburg County, VA. > This record connects William Lambert in Wake County, NC to > his earlier location in Mecklenburg Co., VA, and names his > wife Martha who later shows up in the records Franklin Co., > NC after William's death. (The family didn't move > from Wake Co to Franklin Co, NC, the county boundary moved > in 1787.) > There are several records in Wake County, NC that name > both William Pace and William Lambert in the same record as > well as a road record that names William Lambert, William > Lambert Jr., William Pace and William Pace Jr. - all in the > same record. William Lambert and William Pace owned > adjacent land. > > Rebecca Christensen > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > Subject: [PACE] Ruth Lambert > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 6:27 PM > > I may have the wrong information here. > > The date of birth I have got for James Pace (son of William > Pace and Ruth > Lambert) is Jan 23 1778. > > According to Pritchett (Southside Virginia Genealogies), > the William Lambert > who had land in Wake Co was born in Richmond Co, 18 Nov > 1743 (Pritchett cites > North Farnham Parish Register). > > If that's correct, William Lambert would be 35 when > James Pace was born. > Kind of young to be a grandfather. > > And from what I've read, James Pace is believed to have > had older siblings, > the oldest born around 1771. In 1771, according to > Pritchett, William Lambert > was 28. Even if Lambert started fathering children long > before the law allowed, > it seems unlikely he would become a grandfather by such a > young age. > > James

Thank you so much for that information, Rebecca. As you know I am a descendant of your James Pace's brother, John Pace who was married to Sarah Anderson and who also died in the War of 1812 and was also a son of William Pace and Ruth Lambert. It is good to know about these old records for my family line too. Jane Little McEndree -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:26 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Ruth Lambert James,    The William Lambert who was baptized (christened) 18 November 1743 at North Farnham, Richmond Co., VA was Ruth Lambert's brother William, not her father William.    Ruth and William were children of William Lambert and his wife Martha.   Ruth and William's father William Lambert was born 15 June 1720 at North Farnham, so there is not an age problem - he was not a very young grandfather.    There is a deed record dated 11 August 1777 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia where William Lambert and Martha his wife of Wake County, North Carolina, sold 143 acres of land to William Fox of Mecklenburg County, VA.  This record connects William Lambert in Wake County, NC to his earlier location in Mecklenburg Co., VA, and names his wife Martha who later shows up in the records Franklin Co., NC after William's death.  (The family didn't move from Wake Co to Franklin Co, NC, the county boundary moved in 1787.)   There are several records in Wake County, NC that name both William Pace and William Lambert in the same record as well as a road record that names William Lambert, William Lambert Jr., William Pace and William Pace Jr. - all in the same record.    William Lambert and William Pace owned adjacent land. Rebecca Christensen --- On Fri, 1/23/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: From: James Blair <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Ruth Lambert To: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 6:27 PM I may have the wrong information here. The date of birth I have got for James Pace (son of William Pace and Ruth Lambert) is Jan 23 1778. According to Pritchett (Southside Virginia Genealogies), the William Lambert who had land in Wake Co was born in Richmond Co, 18 Nov 1743 (Pritchett cites North Farnham Parish Register). If that's correct, William Lambert would be 35 when James Pace was born. Kind of young to be a grandfather. And from what I've read, James Pace is believed to have had older siblings, the oldest born around 1771. In 1771, according to Pritchett, William Lambert was 28. Even if Lambert started fathering children long before the law allowed, it seems unlikely he would become a grandfather by such a young age. James ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James,    The William Lambert who was baptized (christened) 18 November 1743 at North Farnham, Richmond Co., VA was Ruth Lambert's brother William, not her father William.    Ruth and William were children of William Lambert and his wife Martha.   Ruth and William's father William Lambert was born 15 June 1720 at North Farnham, so there is not an age problem - he was not a very young grandfather.    There is a deed record dated 11 August 1777 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia where William Lambert and Martha his wife of Wake County, North Carolina, sold 143 acres of land to William Fox of Mecklenburg County, VA.  This record connects William Lambert in Wake County, NC to his earlier location in Mecklenburg Co., VA, and names his wife Martha who later shows up in the records Franklin Co., NC after William's death.  (The family didn't move from Wake Co to Franklin Co, NC, the county boundary moved in 1787.)   There are several records in Wake County, NC that name both William Pace and William Lambert in the same record as well as a road record that names William Lambert, William Lambert Jr., William Pace and William Pace Jr. - all in the same record.    William Lambert and William Pace owned adjacent land. Rebecca Christensen --- On Fri, 1/23/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: From: James Blair <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Ruth Lambert To: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 6:27 PM I may have the wrong information here. The date of birth I have got for James Pace (son of William Pace and Ruth Lambert) is Jan 23 1778. According to Pritchett (Southside Virginia Genealogies), the William Lambert who had land in Wake Co was born in Richmond Co, 18 Nov 1743 (Pritchett cites North Farnham Parish Register). If that's correct, William Lambert would be 35 when James Pace was born. Kind of young to be a grandfather. And from what I've read, James Pace is believed to have had older siblings, the oldest born around 1771. In 1771, according to Pritchett, William Lambert was 28. Even if Lambert started fathering children long before the law allowed, it seems unlikely he would become a grandfather by such a young age. James

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06 Dec 1734 Brunswick Co Court Orders p. 75 JAMES PACE given leave to keep an ordinary with WILLIAM MACLIN & MOSES DUNKLEY for security 05 Sep 1740 Brunswick County, William and Francis Poythress, executors, &c., of JOHN FITZGERALD, plaintiffs, against MOSES DUNKLEY, defendant, continued until the next court. 07 May 1741 Brunswick County, upon the petition of William and Francis Poythress, executors, &c., of JOHN FITZGERALD, deceased, against SETH PETTY POOLE for debt continued until the next court. 26 Nov 1769 Brunswick Co. JOHN PACE to ANN RUSSELL, security JOHN RUSSELL" 26 Oct 1816 Greenville Co SC Deed of Gift: JOHN PACE. . . to my daughter, Elizabeth Pace... Witnesses: Geo. Salmon, SETH P POOL, GEORGE RUSSELL, J.P. Not the same Seth Pettypool, obviously, and I don't know if George Russell was kin to John Russell or not. George Salmon was one of the earliest settlers of Greenville Co. His wife was Ann Young. A Francis Young bought land from Ephraim Pettypool in Brunswick Co in 1764. William and Francis Poythress are the executors of John Fitzgerald (above) because he married a Poythress. Fitzgerald was on Bayley's Creek near Richard Moore and Lewis Green. He witnessed Richard Moore's will. James James

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > > William Clack was married to Elizabeth Twitty Oct 16 1757 > Brunswick Co, according to report; Thomas Twitty jr signed > the bond. There is an interesting article about the Clack family in W&MQ (Oct 1910). James Clack, the immigrant, was minister of Ware Parish in Gloucester Co from 1679 to 1723. "It is believed that James Clack, who was guardian of Charlotte, daughter of Robert Ballard, deceased, of York County, was his son." It's also now believed that Robert Ballard's wife Jane was Jane Clack, daughter of the Rev. James Clack. Robert Ballard's sister Katharine married William Buckner (will proved May 1 1716, York Co). Their daughter Elizabeth Ballard married Drury Stith and, if I haven't got lost, were the parents of Buckner Stith. Robert Ballard's brother, Thomas Ballard, was appointed guardian of the daughter of Mrs Mary Marsh, wife of the Clement Marsh who figured in a court case over his estate and the estate of James Pace who died 1657 in York Co. I think this Thomas Ballard was the brother of the Robert Ballard who married Jane Clack. Ballard, like Edward Hill, was a prominent supporter of Berkely during Bacon's Rebellion. Robert Ballard's sister Anna married John Major "of York and Charles City" counties. I have not yet discovered whether John Major was related to the William Major who represented the interests of James Pace, dec'd, in the court case with Clement Marsh, also dec'd. Back to the Clacks. James Clack's will was proved in Brunswick Co Aug 23 1757. It mentions wife Mary, sons John and William, and daughters Dolly Clack, Sarah Maclin, Betty Anderson. Excs Robert Ruffin, William Thornton. Another known son, not mentioned in the will, was Sterling Clack. James Clack's daughter Sarah was married to William Maclin, Jr (bond Sept 25 1754). On 6 Dec 1734 in Brunswick Co, James Pace was given leave to keep an ordinary with William Maclin (not sure if this is father or son) and Moses Dunkley. This suggests possible links between James Pace in Brunswick Co. (the one who appears as sexton for St Andrews Parish) and Clacks, and (through the Clack ties with Twitty) perhaps with John Russell (m. Ann Russell), and (through the Clack ties with Ballard and Major) perhaps even with the James Pace who died in York Co. in 1659. I am getting ahead of myself though -- evidence needed. James