This email just appeared in my inbox: In researching the Bird family tree I have a Sarah Pace married to John Bird (1733-1815) with Children George Pace Bird d 1779 Joseph Bird John Bird 1761-1840 Sarah Bird Henry Bird William Bird 1767-1849 James Bird c1768 Richard Bird c1769 Edward Bird 1773-1848 James Bird 1775-1857 I believe she was born in Cardiff Wales about 1740, other than that I have little information on her. I do have information on the Bird side (Guernsey, Wales, London) Always hoping for a miracle best regards Bill jarvis Toronto Ontario Canada Anyone know who this Sarah Pace was? Roy Johnson

Patience listed in the will of Thomas Howell (1794) appears to be surnamed PACE. My reading of the copy I have, which several of us have looked at and decided it is probably PACE. It has been indexed as Pair. Someone needs to figure out about how old Thomas Howell was when he died in 1794. My take on the whole thing is that Patience probably was a younger 2nd wife of George Pace. They had a son William and George protected his welfare by putting that 60 pounds at interest for him in his will, he already having a grown son. George went on to live several years more after the will, so he was not on his death bed at the time he made the will. William Pace who I take to be the son of Patience witnessed a Howell deed in 1793 or 1794 in Halifax County NC. Without looking it up, it was about the same time Patience and son William sold their land. It is about the only time I think I have William son of Patience and George doing something to get his name in a record. William and wife Sisley are over in Franklin County since 1775 Shirley Pace Graham. In a message dated 2/5/2009 3:58:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks for mentioning the Lane connection. It is interesting, but something does seem to be wrong. So often the same given names recur in different branches of the same family -- it may be something like that. Or my brain going, which is also a possibility. But also, at least one online abstract of Thomas Howell's will calls her "Patience Pearce", not "Patience Pace". (http://www.jhowell.com/tng/showsource.php?sourceID=S1378&tree=1). Then further down on the same page she comes out as "Patience Fair". It must either be hard to read in the original, or the various transcribers were having a bad day. I will leave her as Patience ___________. James --- On Thu, 2/5/09, James Pace <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Pace <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 12:34 PM > I have been looking into to Howell family research on the > web. The line back from Thomas Howell is rather interesting, > there being a connection to the Lanes, who in turn drop back > down their line to some Paces. However, according to these > sources, the Matthew Howell in Thomas's will would have > to be a contemporary of William Pace. His sister would have > been of the same generation, and therefore, could not have > been William's mother. This, of course, is not primary > information. > James R. Pace > > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Ricky Pace <[email protected]> > wrote: > > From: Ricky Pace <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:16 AM > > You probably have already seen this. > > This info came from Gordon W. Pace: > "Patience Pace is named as a daughter of Thomas Howell > in his will dated > 2/10/1794. Also, the will of George Pace of Halifax Co > names sons John and > William and it is witnessed by Matthew Howell on 1/7/1773, > brother of > Patience Howell above. > This is the primary evidence for Patience Howell as the > wife of George Pace > of Halifax Co, NC." > > Patience is listed in the Tax Records: Patiance Pace 1786 > Halifax Co Distict > #2 > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:41 PM > Subject: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > > > > Can anyone tell me, has Patience's maiden name > been proved? I have > read > > that it was Howell but is there proof? > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e)

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > > A possible explanation of this might be that due to his > father owning land near Paces, Benjamin Chappell met and > married an Elizabeth Pace who inherited land from her father > William Pace. Or, even more likely, Samuel Chappell might have already known and/or been related to his Pace neighbors, before he ever bought the land on the Morratock. That's probably how he came to buy land in that particular location. They were probably all cousins two or three times over before Benjamin Chappell was even born. My guess. James

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > Chowan BK B PG. 328, John Leonard to Henry Jones 14 Nov 1727 > 10 pds for 230 A on NS Morrattock River at Deep Bottom > adj Wm. Reeves, Barnaby Melton. Wit: James Gee, SAMUEL > CHAPPELL. > > 1764 April 10 William PACE former land sold by Elizabeth > & Benjamin CHAPPELL to Joel HURT. 200 pounds Virginia > money the 354 acres that belonged to William PACE ... > Benjamin CHAPELL and Elizabeth his wife > hath an indefeasible estate of inheritance in fee simple > signed by both wit Thomas MARSHAL, Arch HAMILTON, db 8 pg > 437 Halifax county (25) > These two deeds show that (a) in 1727 Benjamin Chappell's father owned land on the Morratock, near various Paces; and (b) by 1764 Benjamin Chappell and his wife Elizabeth were selling land which formerly belonged to a William Pace. A possible explanation of this might be that due to his father owning land near Paces, Benjamin Chappell met and married an Elizabeth Pace who inherited land from her father William Pace. Am I right in thinking that the land that was sold by the Chappells, formerly belonged to William Pace, son of John and Elizabeth? Can this be shown to be true (or untrue) through the land descriptions? If true, then it would seem to me reasonable to suppose that William Pace, whose mother was Elizabeth, might have named a daughter Elizabeth; and that she might have married Benjamin Chappell. James

Chowan BK B PG. 328, John Leonard to Henry Jones 14 Nov 1727 10 pds for 230 A on NS Morrattock River at Deep Bottom adj Wm. Reeves, Barnaby Melton. Wit: James Gee, SAMUEL CHAPPELL. 1764 April 10 William PACE former land sold by Elizabeth & Benjamin CHAPPELL to Joel HURT. 200 pounds Virginia money the 354 acres that belonged to William PACE ... Benjamin CHAPELL and Elizabeth his wife hath an indefeasible estate of inheritance in fee simple signed by both wit Thomas MARSHAL, Arch HAMILTON, db 8 pg 437 Halifax county (25) Benjamin Chappell was Samuel Chappell's son (Pritchett, SVG, p2495). Samuel Chappell was a son of Thomas Chappell (m. Elizabeth Jones, daughter of James Jones, Prince George Co VA). Samuel Chappell m. Elizabeth Scott, daughter of John Scott and Bethia Boyce (daughter of Cheney Boyce). John Scott's daughter Emilia married Nathaniel Tatum. Samuel Chappell's brother James (d. 1769 Sussex Co VA) married (1) Elizabeth Briggs and (2) Elizabeth Howell, daughter of John Howell. With Elizabeth Howell he had, among other children, a son John Chappell. John Chappell m. Mary Hines, daughter of Joshua Hines of Sussex Co. The will of John Chappell was proved in Sussex in 1803. John Chappell and Mary Hines were parents of, among others, Howell Chappell (b. 27 Feb 1759), named no doubt for his grandmother Elizabeth Howell. Howell Chappell died by 1802 when his estate in Prince George was inventoried; William PACE was guardian to his orphans, Howell Chappell and John Chappell. It looks like Nathaniel Howell, who witnessed the will of Thomas Pace, was probably descended from John Howell whose daughter married Elizabeth Howell (whose grandson Howell Chappell left his orphans to William Pace). This may or may not turn out to have a bearing on why Benjamin and Elizabeth Chappell came into possession of the land of William Pace (see deed of 1764 above). Hopkins Howell, also, may have descended from John Howell. More digging needed. James

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > Anne Newsome (mother of Elias Hilliard) was the daughter of > John Newsome and Sarah Crafford. (Also AP&P). Sarah > Crafford m. (2) William Ruffin of Northampton Co., NC, > widower of Faith Gray. (Also AP&P) John Newsome's brother Thomas Newsome m. Sarah Crafford's sister Elizabeth Crafford. Solomon Newsome, son of Thomas Newsome and Elizabeth Newsome, were parents of Mary Newsome who married Silas Pace, grandson of Richard and Rebecca. Thomas and Elizabeth Crafford were also parents of Moses Newsome (mentioned in his mother's will 1752 Southampton Co VA). According to the excellent website at http://www.freeafricanamericans.com, Moses married Judah _______, who was granted administration on his estate in Northampton Co NC in May 1764. "Judah was apparently African American since their children were counted as African American." Moses Newsome is mentioned with Nathaniel Pace in the following deed: "1766 Oct 25 Wm, Allen Esq. sheriff of Northampton to Floyd SMITH a suit was brought against Judith NEWSUM admr. of Moses NEWSUM dec'd. Nathaniel PACE was the plaintiff. Land involved was 75 acres which was part of a patent to Hopkin HOWEL 1 Feb 1728 and made over in Bertie Court joining Clay Spring Branch. Charles GREGORY. Wit James ALLEN, Mark ALLEN DB 4 page 689 Northampton (129)" The following paragraph is all from Dorman, AP&P, Spencer section (except the final sentence which is my speculation): Hopkin Howell was married to Elizabeth Foster Hart, widow of Thomas Hart. Elizabeth Foster Hart Howell had no children with Hopkin Howell. With her first husband she had sons Thomas Hart and William Hart. William Hart was bound, 4 April 1710, to Thomas Lane. His brother Thomas Hart married Ann _____ and died by Aug 1761 when his will was proved in Northampton Co NC. He and Ann had a son named Thomas Hart who I venture to suggest might well have been the Thomas Hart who with wife Patience sold land to Henry Dawson in 1762 -- deed witnessed by John Pace and Richard Pace. Back to Hopkin Howell, concerning whose patent Nathaniel Pace sued the administrator of Moses Newsome: Hopkin Howell's wife, Elizabeth Foster, was the daughter of George Foster and Anne Sheppard. Anne Sheppard had previously been married to (2) William Newsome, with whom she had sons John and Thomas Newsome who married the Crafford sisters (see parents of Moses Newsome, above); and (1) Thomas Hart, with whom she had son Thomas Hart who married his stepsister Elizabeth Foster, who after his death married Hopkin Howell. Got that? So Moses Newsome, whose estate was being sued by Nathaniel Pace in 1766, was Thomas Newsome's son and Anne Sheppard Hart Newsome Foster's grandson. Hopkin Howell, who patented the land, was Anne Sheppard Hart Newsome Foster's son-in-law. The only question that remains: whose grandson (on the maternal line) was Nathaniel Pace -- son of Thomas Pace whose will was witnessed by Nathaniel HOWELL? James

Contact me and I can help you. I have information on Jesse L. Pace's ancestors. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: [PACE] Jesse L. Pace of Henderson, NC > Hello, > > I was contacted by a cousin (who is not a member) from Tonawanda, New > York concerning her family. I found Jesse L. Pace (her Grandfather) in > Henderson, NC on the 1910 census married to Mary Ann Peace. In 1930 they > were in > Lockhart, Orange, Florida. In the 1935 Florida census they were still in > Orange, Florida. He was born Nov. 4, 1887 and died Jan, 1966. I found > 11 > children, but there may have been more. Some were born in NC, some in > Alabama, and > some in Florida. Her father was Dewey Sydney Pace born August 25, 1926 > and died > Nov. 19, 2008. > If anyone can help her go back further (and I know someone can) > please > let us know. > > Thanks, > Peggy Pace Gieske > **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to > stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I was contacted by a cousin (who is not a member) from Tonawanda, New York concerning her family. I found Jesse L. Pace (her Grandfather) in Henderson, NC on the 1910 census married to Mary Ann Peace. In 1930 they were in Lockhart, Orange, Florida. In the 1935 Florida census they were still in Orange, Florida. He was born Nov. 4, 1887 and died Jan, 1966. I found 11 children, but there may have been more. Some were born in NC, some in Alabama, and some in Florida. Her father was Dewey Sydney Pace born August 25, 1926 and died Nov. 19, 2008. If anyone can help her go back further (and I know someone can) please let us know. Thanks, Peggy Pace Gieske **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022)

Looks like Lydia ran off with Samuel Cotton. I don't know if Lydia and Samuel ever got married but I guess probably Lydia and Solomon Ewell did probably get divorced after the legislature got involved. Not sure where, or rather when, Mr Ruffin came in. "Mr Charlton presented the petition of Solomon Ewell complaining of the elopement of his Wife Lydia and her living in adultery with one Samuel Colten of Northampton County, and praying an Act may pass to dissolve the Marriage of the said Solomon and Lydia; and moved that a Committee be appointed to examine into the truth of the several allegations in the said petition contained, which was objected to; on which the motion was made and question put, if the said Committee be appointed or not and carried in the affirmative, and Mr Fanning, Mr Charlton, Mr Dawson, Mr Bradford, and Mr Harris are appointed a Committee agreeable to the said motion; and that they have power to send for persons and papers, and report their proceedings thereon to the next Session of Assembly, Mr Barron presented the petition of William Cumming, setting forth he is returned by the Sheriff of Pasquotank County, a Representative for the Town of Nixonton in said County—praying the House would take the said petition under consideration. Resolved, that the said petition be referred to the Committee of Priviled ges and Elections. On motion Mr Charlton, Mr Ashe, and Mr Spier be added to the Committee of Priviledges and Elections." Minutes of the Lower House of the North Carolina General Assembly North Carolina. General Assembly October 30, 1766 - December 02, 1766 Volume 07, Pages 342 - 423 (online at http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr07-0156) --- On Fri, 2/6/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lydia Howell was married to Samuel Cotton (will proved 10 > May 1774 Northampton Co, exc wife, Robert Hilliard). Samuel > Cotton was a son of John Cotten (will 1728 Bertie) and > Martha Godwin. His sisters Patience and Martha m. > (consecutively) Capt. John Spears or Spiers. His mother > Martha Godwin had a sister Elizabeth who married William > Bridger; their son Samuel Bridgers married Mary Johnston, > daughter of John Johnston and Mary Pace (daughter of Richard > and Rebecca). > > I have not yet found out how Samuel Cotton was related to > the John Cotton whose will Thomas Pace and Thomas Lowe were > executors of in 1762. > > I would appreciate corrections of errors in the above. > > James > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

As I have previously posted, I believe that Elizabeth Bedingfield (mentioned in the will of Solomon Pace as the mother of his daughter), was the daughter of Thomas Bedingfield, whose 1779 will was proved by Elias Hilliard and John Smith. Elias Hilliard was the son of William Hilliard and Anne Newsome. (Dorman, AP%P, Spencer section). Anne Newsome (mother of Elias Hilliard) was the daughter of John Newsome and Sarah Crafford. (Also AP&P). Sarah Crafford m. (2) William Ruffin of Northampton Co., NC, widower of Faith Gray. (Also AP&P) Faith Gray was the daughter of William Gray and Mary Holt of Surry Co. William Gray's will 1719 named daughter Faith Ruffin. William Gray was son of Ancient Planter Thomas Gray (Gray's Creek). (Also AP&P) I am supposing that the father of the Ruffin children mentioned in Lydia Cotton's will were probably related to Elias Hilliard's step-uncle William Ruffin. A William Ruffin is mentioned in the following entry: "1763 William PACE, J. EDWARDS and Jo Smith go bond for John EDWARDS Esq $ecretary and clerk of the "Court of Pleas witness Wm RUFFIN and Thos. PACE. (139) Northampton" I think the William Pace and Thomas Pace mentioned in that entry are the sons of Richard and Rebecca. John Edwards seems likely to be or be related to the John Edwards who witnessed Richard Pace's will in 1638. John Smith seems likely to be the same John Smith who witnessed the will of Thomas Bedingfield in 1776. Back to Elias Hilliard. He married Lydia Pope (June 11 1766 Halifax Co). Lydia Pope, reportedly (have not seen proof) was a daughter of Jesse Pope and Mary Elizabeth Fort. Jesse Pope was an executor of the will of a Richard Baley which mentioned Bethel Pace. I don't know who Bethel Pace was: "1762 February 20 Bethel(x) PACE along with Isham SILLS and "x" POPE witness will of Richard BALEY - daughter Rebecker BALEY left to Lawrence POPE until she marries or comes of age. Son Lewis BALEY left to Jesse POPE until he comes of age. Land an plantation to Lewis if he dies without heirs then to Rebecker and if both die without heirs to my brother Thomas BALEY, lend father Philip BALEY use of land and plantation. Friend Thomas POPE feathe bed etc. friend Jesse POPE my wearing cloths, Henry JONES half my meet residue of estate to be sold. Extrs Thomas and Jesse POPE Will # 50 pg 68 Halifax county (189)" According to what I have read (have not seen proof), Jesse Pope and Lewis Pope were both sons of Henry Pope, who married Tabitha Bradford, daughter of John Bradford and -- which wife? Either Patience Reed or, more likely, Dorothea Miriam Burges, daughter of Thomas Burges, whose will (29 July 1777 Feb. Ct. 1794 Halifax) mentions his neighbor SAMUEL PITMAN. Samuel Pitman and John Bradford both witnessed the will of George Pace Halifax 1773, and Samuel Pitman also witnessed the will of Thomas Howell, who, regardless of whether he was the father of George Pace's wife, might well have been related to Lydia (Howell) Cotton whose will was witnessed by Solomon Pace. The links outlined above suggest that Solomon Pace who witnessed the will of Lydia was Solomon Pace, son of William Pace whose parents were Richard and Rebecca Pace. My apologies if everybody but me already knew that. Lydia Howell was married to Samuel Cotton (will proved 10 May 1774 Northampton Co, exc wife, Robert Hilliard). Samuel Cotton was a son of John Cotten (will 1728 Bertie) and Martha Godwin. His sisters Patience and Martha m. (consecutively) Capt. John Spears or Spiers. His mother Martha Godwin had a sister Elizabeth who married William Bridger; their son Samuel Bridgers married Mary Johnston, daughter of John Johnston and Mary Pace (daughter of Richard and Rebecca). I have not yet found out how Samuel Cotton was related to the John Cotton whose will Thomas Pace and Thomas Lowe were executors of in 1762. I would appreciate corrections of errors in the above. James

1761 Northampton Co NC, will of John Cotton proved August court. Thomas Pace and Thomas Lowe extrs. Does anyone know who was this Thomas Lowe? Appreciate any information. James

Yes, I've found my non-PACE ancestors with Spaish passports. I was told Spain thought bringing in American settlers under Spanish control they would keep America & France from taking over. Fat Chance!!! Dorothy W. Potter, PASSPORTS OF SOUTHEASTERN PIONEERS 1770-1823, (Gateway Press; 1982), "Petition from American Inhabitants of Repid Post to Governor Carondelet - Aug 10, 1794: to His Excellency Baron Decaron Dula Commander in Chief over the Province of Lucianna. Subscribers Names (21 names)incl Richard EARL, Samuel GRAY, Reuben & James WHITE; plus "List attache tothe preceeding petition (9), incl Ruben & James WHITE & Richard EARL." also LAND THAT BECAME FRANKLIN PARISH...p 17, 1975, Winsbora, LA:, "{23} Richard EARLE, Sr., his brother Matthew, their families with all portable possessions migrated here from Pennsylvania in 1795, having obtained Spanish Grants to enormous acreages of virgin land (Baton Rouge Land Office). Richard EARL Jr m. Margaret DOYLE. Richard Earl SR died 16/Sep/1818; estate was inventoried & consisted of thousands of arpents of land, 900 horses, 350 head of cattle, etc."(File Box S, No.2, Catahoula Parish.). Jackie Ashley PACE The Woodlands, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Long Carey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: [PACE] Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 > Is anyone familiar with this publication. It is supposed to contain over > 13,000 names of persons who were issued passports. > and the names were transcribed by a Dorothy Williams Porter. > I understand that there was a passport issued in 1811 to a David > Robinson,which is the name of my grgrandfather b. 1789. > The first knowledge I have found about him was in 1813 when he enlisted in > the war of 1812 and married his first wife, Mary Hodges > In Goochland County,Va. > These passports had something to do with travel in states: Tennesssee, > Georgia, Mississippi,Va, North and South Carolina > I have also found in the letters of Thomas Jefferson on the web, one > written to a David Robinson, dated 1805 discussing various > elements of Missouri with a reference to Captain Lewis. This has caused > me to wonder if possible he was with the > Lewis and Clark expedition.Thomas Jefferson was thanking him for writing > about Missouri. > I have read that the men on the expedition were supposed to have kept > journals. It is really interesting reading. > This passport thing is something new to me. Would like to hear from anyone > with knowledge of it. > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove > [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in > touch! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 28408 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Lois, I also checked Worldcat.com to see if the book was available in any local libraries. There are a ton of locations just in Texas. Check it out to see where the book is available in your area. There are apparently 5 editions, with the latest reprint in 2002. It was first printed in 1982. Also, there are some copies available on Amazon.com from new $200 plus, to used $87. Kim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lois Long Carey Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 Is anyone familiar with this publication. It is supposed to contain over 13,000 names of persons who were issued passports. and the names were transcribed by a Dorothy Williams Porter. I understand that there was a passport issued in 1811 to a David Robinson,which is the name of my grgrandfather b. 1789. The first knowledge I have found about him was in 1813 when he enlisted in the war of 1812 and married his first wife, Mary Hodges In Goochland County,Va. These passports had something to do with travel in states: Tennesssee, Georgia, Mississippi,Va, North and South Carolina I have also found in the letters of Thomas Jefferson on the web, one written to a David Robinson, dated 1805 discussing various elements of Missouri with a reference to Captain Lewis. This has caused me to wonder if possible he was with the Lewis and Clark expedition.Thomas Jefferson was thanking him for writing about Missouri. I have read that the men on the expedition were supposed to have kept journals. It is really interesting reading. This passport thing is something new to me. Would like to hear from anyone with knowledge of it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

13-67 results for this kit show that this donor is clearly in group 3a. The added results are a perfect match for the modal in 3a. Roy Johnson

Robert Pace -- Born 20 Jan 1811; Died 17 Oct 1891 Rebecca Pace -- Born 17 Dec 1816; Died 17 Oct 1863 - Wife of Robert Pace They are buried in the Mt. Zion Baptist Church Cemetery in Alexandria, Calhoun County, Alabama. Reverend Richard Pace (Born 9 Aug 1785; Died 28 Nov 1858; Married Amy Bussey) was the pastor of this church from 1838 to 1853. Any information on the parents of this Robert Pace or other connection will be appreciated. Patricia Duggan [email protected]

Lois, I have a copy of both the "Passports Issued By Governors of Georgia, 1785 to 1809" and "Passports Issued By Governors of Georgia, 1810 To 1820" but not the one you mention above. Only the second publication is indexed. However, by quickly glancing at the unindexed publication, I will state that there is a David Robinson mentioned in Burke Co., Georgia in 1805 as a character witness for Mr. Jno. Boykin. If you or anyone else would like more information, please contact me privately at [email protected] in case the information you need is not applicable to the Pace List. Kim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lois Long Carey Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACE] Passports of Southeastern Pioneers 1770-1823 Is anyone familiar with this publication. It is supposed to contain over 13,000 names of persons who were issued passports. and the names were transcribed by a Dorothy Williams Porter. I understand that there was a passport issued in 1811 to a David Robinson,which is the name of my grgrandfather b. 1789. The first knowledge I have found about him was in 1813 when he enlisted in the war of 1812 and married his first wife, Mary Hodges In Goochland County,Va. These passports had something to do with travel in states: Tennesssee, Georgia, Mississippi,Va, North and South Carolina I have also found in the letters of Thomas Jefferson on the web, one written to a David Robinson, dated 1805 discussing various elements of Missouri with a reference to Captain Lewis. This has caused me to wonder if possible he was with the Lewis and Clark expedition.Thomas Jefferson was thanking him for writing about Missouri. I have read that the men on the expedition were supposed to have kept journals. It is really interesting reading. This passport thing is something new to me. Would like to hear from anyone with knowledge of it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You probably have already seen this. This info came from Gordon W. Pace: "Patience Pace is named as a daughter of Thomas Howell in his will dated 2/10/1794. Also, the will of George Pace of Halifax Co names sons John and William and it is witnessed by Matthew Howell on 1/7/1773, brother of Patience Howell above. This is the primary evidence for Patience Howell as the wife of George Pace of Halifax Co, NC." Patience is listed in the Tax Records: Patiance Pace 1786 Halifax Co Distict #2 Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > Can anyone tell me, has Patience's maiden name been proved? I have read > that it was Howell but is there proof? > > James > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Is anyone familiar with this publication. It is supposed to contain over 13,000 names of persons who were issued passports. and the names were transcribed by a Dorothy Williams Porter. I understand that there was a passport issued in 1811 to a David Robinson,which is the name of my grgrandfather b. 1789. The first knowledge I have found about him was in 1813 when he enlisted in the war of 1812 and married his first wife, Mary Hodges In Goochland County,Va. These passports had something to do with travel in states: Tennesssee, Georgia, Mississippi,Va, North and South Carolina I have also found in the letters of Thomas Jefferson on the web, one written to a David Robinson, dated 1805 discussing various elements of Missouri with a reference to Captain Lewis. This has caused me to wonder if possible he was with the Lewis and Clark expedition.Thomas Jefferson was thanking him for writing about Missouri. I have read that the men on the expedition were supposed to have kept journals. It is really interesting reading. This passport thing is something new to me. Would like to hear from anyone with knowledge of it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch!

Lois, If I am remembering correctly, passports were required to travel through the Creek Nation from Georgia to the Mississippi Territory. With the destruction of Creek power by Andrew Jackson in the Creek War these became less critical and totally unnecessary after the removal of the Creeks to Oklahoma. Joe Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009

Thanks for mentioning the Lane connection. It is interesting, but something does seem to be wrong. So often the same given names recur in different branches of the same family -- it may be something like that. Or my brain going, which is also a possibility. But also, at least one online abstract of Thomas Howell's will calls her "Patience Pearce", not "Patience Pace". (http://www.jhowell.com/tng/showsource.php?sourceID=S1378&tree=1). Then further down on the same page she comes out as "Patience Fair". It must either be hard to read in the original, or the various transcribers were having a bad day. I will leave her as Patience ___________. James --- On Thu, 2/5/09, James Pace <[email protected]> wrote: > From: James Pace <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 12:34 PM > I have been looking into to Howell family research on the > web. The line back from Thomas Howell is rather interesting, > there being a connection to the Lanes, who in turn drop back > down their line to some Paces. However, according to these > sources, the Matthew Howell in Thomas's will would have > to be a contemporary of William Pace. His sister would have > been of the same generation, and therefore, could not have > been William's mother. This, of course, is not primary > information. > James R. Pace > > --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Ricky Pace <[email protected]> > wrote: > > From: Ricky Pace <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 10:16 AM > > You probably have already seen this. > > This info came from Gordon W. Pace: > "Patience Pace is named as a daughter of Thomas Howell > in his will dated > 2/10/1794. Also, the will of George Pace of Halifax Co > names sons John and > William and it is witnessed by Matthew Howell on 1/7/1773, > brother of > Patience Howell above. > This is the primary evidence for Patience Howell as the > wife of George Pace > of Halifax Co, NC." > > Patience is listed in the Tax Records: Patiance Pace 1786 > Halifax Co Distict > #2 > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:41 PM > Subject: [PACE] NC, George Pace, wife Patience > > > > Can anyone tell me, has Patience's maiden name > been proved? I have > read > > that it was Howell but is there proof? > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message