This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.carbon/2637.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi- Klotz isn't in my line but I saw the messages on the Carbon Co. mailing lists and I have the Ben Salem history book so I thought I'd try to help. There's no baptism records for Lydia Klotz nor a Nathan Klotz in the Ben Salem book. There are two children for Christian and Elisabeth who were listed in Judy's initial post. Ref: Ben Salem Church, Growing Together Since 1797; East Penn Twp., Carbon Co., PA Pg. 144 Anna Maria Kloz Sex: F b. 6/20/1824 bap. 7/11/1824 F. Christian Kloz M. Elisabeth Kloz (no maiden name) Joseph Kloz Sex: M b. (blank) bap. 5/28/1826 F. Christian Kloz M. Elisabeth Kloz (no maiden name) In the cemetery records there is a burial for Christian (but no Elizabeth) and his wife's name was different but maybe he was married twice??? Also in the same row are a Silas Klotz and a Thomas Jefferson Klotz. pg. 56 Christian Klotz, (wife Veronica Krausz) b. 5/11/1789 d. 3/12/1848 sect. 1, row 11 Silas Klotz, b. 3/1/1830 d. 5/3/1867 sect. 1, row 11 Thomas Jefferson Klotz, b. 7/4/1845 d. 10/28/1863 sect. 1, row 11 Hope this helps someone. Michelle