Hi Ken, The original subject line is mine, Mike was replying to my posting in which I was trying to find out who the parents of the Robert McDaniel born 1820 in PA in the 1850 Carbon census are. This particular Robert shows in Towamensing, just a little north and east of the east end of Palmerton, that is where his home shows on the 1875 Towamensing map, somewhat near the Franklin Twp. line. This is the map 1875 survey map which has the locations of the homes with the names of the owners on it. Nearby is C. Klotz and a little to the west, at Little Gap are L. Klotz and J. Klotz. Ammon Klotz shows in the 1880 census in Towamensing and this man is the son of Christian Klotz and Elizabeth McDaniel, Elizabeth's father was Robert being the early settler in Carbon, in Mahoning Twp. A D. Washburn appears on the east end of Towamensing on the same map. My problem is that there is no documentation connecting Robert b. 1820 with any of the known children of Robert and Elizabeth McDaniel of Mahoning, though I have yet to run across a Carbon McDaniel who is not connected to them. I suspect that he is a son of Robert Jr. who is stated to have gone west in the M & H Carbon history. By 1820 the earlier Robert and Elizabeth, married about 1884, would have been 64 and 53 respectively so it isn't likely that the 1820 Robert is a son, more likely a grandson. The prevalent practise of farming out the children at an early age to help other families seemed to be common with the McDaniels so this makes tracking difficult. The Solt mention arises because I found a marriage record for a Mary MacDaniels to a Conrad Solt in the 1822, in the records of Rev. Meendensen, one listing shows Whitehall for the location and another Penntown which is the name for a location between Andres and Bowmanstown on Rt. 895 south of Lehighton, and there is a first communion mention in 1809 for a Maria McDaniel at the Ben Salem Church in Carbon, so she is very likely a granddaughter of Robert and Elizabeth or an unknown, late born daughter of the couple. I found Conrad Solt in Towamensing church records in several mentions in the 1820's and 30's, as sponsor for multiple baptisms there. I think a Solt also married a Greenzweig. In the M & H history the Solt family includes a Conrad, son of Jacob Solt. In the listings of Jacob Solt and wife's children there is a Polly, given as "Polly, (Mrs. Conrad Solt). later in the Solt information it is stated that Conrad never married! Can't have it both ways can they? I think that since Polly was the common nick-name for Mary that this is the Mary McDaniel who married the Conrad Solt who "never married", and not a daughter of Jacob Solt but a daughter-in-law. Another clue is that the 1820 born Robert McDaniel was a farmer, as was Robert Sr. In the census records this Robert states that his birthplace is PA, and I believe I saw an 1880 census record for him which stated his parents were born in PA. Robert (Sr.) and Elizabeth's obituaries appeared in the Carbon Transit, a short lived newspaper out of Mauch Chunk, Robert dying in 1847 and Elizabeth in 1844. I have a rough draft of the information about these families I would be happy to send to you if you would be interested in seeing it. Just let me know. Judy McElderry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth R. Maxwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: RE: [PACARBON] McDaniel, Solt, Klotz, Roth in Carbon > Mike, > I see KLOTZ in your subject line but nothing in your e-mail question > > regarding KLOTZ. I have a Charles Edward KLOTZ (1857-March 1936) > whom married Martha Elizabeth WASHBURN (March 11, 1858-April 06, 1938) > on December 25, 1880 @ Bloomsburg PA. > They resided in Weatherly Carbon County PA near Beavermeadows PA. > Both buried @ Union Cemetery in Weatherly, Carbon County, PA. > Children compiled from obits are: > Blanche > Mrs. Theodore FIELDS > Mrs. Raymond GAYLOR > Mrs. Robert BENDERWALT > Alma Louise d. May 1963 m. Miles FREY > Mrs. Charles MILLER > > Martha Elizabeth KLOTZ nee WASHBURN is my half-Great Grand Aunt. She is > the Great Granddaughter of Caleb WASHBURN & Great Grand niece of Daniel > WASHBURN, survivor of the Wyoming Massacre. > Anybody else see a familiar name above? > Cheers, > Ken > > > > Ken Maxwell > [email protected] > [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 4:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACARBON] McDaniel, Solt, Klotz, Roth in Carbon > > > Ken, I have your Elizabeth Greenzweig 1802-1880 was the daughter of > Jonathan Greenzweig and Margaret Wolf. > > Mike > > ______________________________