Wow! You did a lot of typing! The story is so interesting. Thanks so much! Bernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > Hi Bernie, I found the time to type this up and am going to send it along > to you. Some of the location spellings are different, but I typed them as > written. I got this copy from the Renovo library because Seth Nelson tied > into a family line I was working on. I have a story about Seth Nelson also. > He was a well known hunter in the area. Dianne > > The Story of Altar Rock > by Henry W. Shoemaker > > “The Story of Altar Rock” was one of the first legends I collected. I > obtained it in 1898 from Seth I. Nelson, then virtually the last survivor > among Pennsylvania’s famous big-game hunters. His life had nearly spanned > the nineteenth century, as he was born in 1809. Rising above his mountain > cabin near Round Island, Clinton County, was Altar Rock with a lone primeval > white pine growing out of it. Nelson explained that the tree once had a > companion that was blown away by a strong wind. He then proceeded o tell me > the following legend woven around those two white pine trees: > > In the first half of the eighteenth century, several bands of French > trappers found their way from the trading posts on Lake Erie o the Elk > branch of the Sinnemahoning Creek. They followed this steam to the main > run, where some of them went out the Bennett Branch toward Benezet, while > another party of five built a camp and stockade on a high point at the great > bend west of what is now Round Island station. The camp, which was > christened Grande Point, and even the subsequent history of the foundations > of the camp can be located in the pine forest that has since grown up on the > scene of this ancient fortification. > The French policy toward the Indians was to fraternize and be honorable in > all dealings with them, and for this reason their trading and trapping > enterprises were successful. > However, a few of the young bucks did not like the whites, especially after > the building of the Grande Pointe camp, which seemed to indicate that they > would live there permanently. But, the squaws and less warlike of the > braves, who bartered furs for undreamed-of fineries and liquor, were glad of > he whites’ presence in the neighborhood. > Of al the hostile braves, none carried more bitter and uncompromising > hatred than did the tall, spare young soothsayer whose name translated is > equivalent to “Two Pines”. > A medicine man by descent, he visioned nothing but frightful omens of his > people’s annihilation at the hands of the pale-faced strangers. Still, the > need for barter and luxury was too strong in the majority of the tribe for > them to give more than a passing thought to forebodings. They turned away, > shaking their heads, when on festal days Two-Pines mounted Altar Rock for > devotions; on this narrow ledge an Indian was supposed to bear a charmed > life and be for the time invulnerable to poisoned arrows or javelins. > Altar Rock, which modern writers call Pulpit Rock, Chimney Rock, Steeple > Rock, or Nelson’s Rock, is one of the most remarkable natural wonders in > Pennsylvania. Its diameter in no part being over ten feet, it rises like a > graceful to a height of sixty feet, where it is surmounted by a flat slab, > the dimensions of which are about ten by twelve. The entire cliff is > composed of brownstone and is undulated and fluted by the action of water in > past ages. > On top of the flat slab stands a living white pine, fory feet tall; ints > gnarled roots clutch at the rocks in a grim effort to hold its place from > which the tree can gain sustenance, but it grows healthy and green in its > barren home. There was once a second white pine, the exact counterpart of > its mate, growing on the rock; but it was struck by lightning, lifted bodily > from the roots, and blown into the valley below. > One bright September morning after Two-Pines, the soothsayer, had spent the > night on top of Altar Rock in meditation and prayer, he heard the crack of a > gun fired somewhere near the Sinnemahoning. A few minutes later he came > face to face with a Frenchman, Piere Le bo, dragging the carcass of a bill > elk to the river’s edge to sink it until he might have time to prepare it > for eating. Two-Pines’ anger was thoroughly aroused. To see this intruder > killing the beasts of the forest, which he thought belonged to the Indians, > was too much for him. He struck the Frenchman a terrific blow on the head > with a stone mallet, crushing his skull and causing instant death. Then he > climbed back to his retreat on Altar Rock and prayed rapturously for the > gift of strength to annihilate the white beings who defiled the valley of > the Sinnemahoning. > It was in this attitude of prayer that he heard the footsteps and > whispering voices in th wood beneath. Nearer and nearer they came, until > through the leaves, he saw four heavily armed French trappers. Two-Pines > arose and stood erect. In the dignity of his titanic stature, and with arms > folded across his breasts, he seemed to defy the avengers to slay him on his > immortal pedestal, where poisoned arrows and javelins had less effect than > drops of summer rain. > A little Frenchman named LaFitte leaned his heavy gun upon a snag, took > careful aim, and fired at the defiant warrior. There was a loud report, and > when the foul-smelling smoke had cleared, the dead body of Two-Pines lay > upon Altar Rock. > An hour later the Frenchmen abandoned Grande Pointe with its valuable > stores and started downstream in canoes. That night the camp was looted and > burned by the Indians; whether the trappers succeeded in reaching friendly > refuge or were murdered on the way has never been determined. But from the > flat top of Altar Rock two little pines with long silky needles sprouted > slender and straight. Taller and taller they grew until, side by side, with > their smooth-barked trunks and shapely tangle of dark green foliage, they > resembled the figure of an Indian youth, the slain but defiant Two-Pines. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > Thanks Diane, I'll look forward to it. > > > > Bernie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > > > > Hi Bernie, I found the story in Renovo library. The rock is known as > > > lookout point. It was used by the Indians to watch the river. It is an > > > interesting story. It is too long a story to type here. But, I will > try > > to > > > make it to the next club meeting and bring a copy along. Dianne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:36 AM > > > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > > > > > > > Blank > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > > > Last night on my way to Renovo, I happened to remember the indian > statue > > > that stands on top of the rock mountain below Sinnemahoning. (I always > > have > > > to think about the spelling on that). There it was, still standing > after > > > all this time. Anyway, what's the story on that indian statue? Anyone > > > know? > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > > > Invite your family and friends to join us! > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > >

The church records for St. James are available from the Mormon Church....check the bibliography section of the website. Church records for St. James are kept at St. Marks. in Emporium. I am not sure how much research they will do if any. Address for the church is under local resources on the website. You also might want to check the online census records to verify your information. Happy Hunting! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann and Doug Denson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] St James Catholic Church Driftwood, PA > Does anyone have the address for the St James Catholic Church in Driftwood, PA? > > I am trying to find information on Donald J McDonald b abt 1858 in Canada. > There is a Donald J buried at Oak Hill St James Cemetery.d 8 1884. > > My Donald was m to Mary Harris d/o William and Margaret Kane Harris. I know that they had one child Charles A. b1883. A biography of Charles states that his father died young and that he operated a mill and general merchantile in Mix Run. I know that Donald died before 1887 because Mary and her son moved to DuBois, Clearfield County, where her mother and siblings were living. > Thank you, > > Ann Harris Denson > researching: Harris, McLaughlin, Kane, Michael, Bathurst, Delozier, Thurston, Yingling, Wilt, Elder and other related names. > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] >

hi Ann .I am researching William McDonald ,married to julia.They lived in Beechwood near Emporium. any connection? Bob Spellenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann and Doug Denson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] St James Catholic Church Driftwood, PA > Does anyone have the address for the St James Catholic Church in Driftwood, PA? > > I am trying to find information on Donald J McDonald b abt 1858 in Canada. > There is a Donald J buried at Oak Hill St James Cemetery.d 8 1884. > > My Donald was m to Mary Harris d/o William and Margaret Kane Harris. I know that they had one child Charles A. b1883. A biography of Charles states that his father died young and that he operated a mill and general merchantile in Mix Run. I know that Donald died before 1887 because Mary and her son moved to DuBois, Clearfield County, where her mother and siblings were living. > Thank you, > > Ann Harris Denson > researching: Harris, McLaughlin, Kane, Michael, Bathurst, Delozier, Thurston, Yingling, Wilt, Elder and other related names. > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] >

Does anyone have the address for the St James Catholic Church in Driftwood, PA? I am trying to find information on Donald J McDonald b abt 1858 in Canada. There is a Donald J buried at Oak Hill St James Cemetery.d 8 1884. My Donald was m to Mary Harris d/o William and Margaret Kane Harris. I know that they had one child Charles A. b1883. A biography of Charles states that his father died young and that he operated a mill and general merchantile in Mix Run. I know that Donald died before 1887 because Mary and her son moved to DuBois, Clearfield County, where her mother and siblings were living. Thank you, Ann Harris Denson researching: Harris, McLaughlin, Kane, Michael, Bathurst, Delozier, Thurston, Yingling, Wilt, Elder and other related names.

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The Story of Altar Rock by Henry W. Shoemaker “The Story of Altar Rock” was one of the first legends I collected. I obtained it in 1898 from Seth I. Nelson, then virtually the last survivor among Pennsylvania’s famous big-game hunters. His life had nearly spanned the nineteenth century, as he was born in 1809. Rising above his mountain cabin near Round Island, Clinton County, was Altar Rock with a lone primeval white pine growing out of it. Nelson explained that the tree once had a companion that was blown away by a strong wind. He then proceeded o tell me the following legend woven around those two white pine trees: In the first half of the eighteenth century, several bands of French trappers found their way from the trading posts on Lake Erie to the Elk branch of the Sinnemahoning Creek. They followed this steam to the main run, where some of them went out the Bennett Branch toward Benezet, while another party of five built a camp and stockade on a high point at the great bend west of what is now Round Island station. The camp, which was christened Grande Point, and even the subsequent history of the foundations of the camp can be located in the pine forest that has since grown up on the scene of this ancient fortification. The French policy toward the Indians was to fraternize and be honorable in all dealings with them, and for this reason their trading and trapping enterprises were successful. However, a few of the young bucks did not like the whites, especially after the building of the Grande Pointe camp, which seemed to indicate that they would live there permanently. But, the squaws and less warlike of the braves, who bartered furs for undreamed-of fineries and liquor, were glad of he whites’ presence in the neighborhood. Of al the hostile braves, none carried more bitter and uncompromising hatred than did the tall, spare young soothsayer whose name translated is equivalent to “Two Pines”. A medicine man by descent, he visioned nothing but frightful omens of his people’s annihilation at the hands of the pale-faced strangers. Still, the need for barter and luxury was too strong in the majority of the tribe for them to give more than a passing thought to forebodings. They turned away, shaking their heads, when on festal days Two-Pines mounted Altar Rock for devotions; on this narrow ledge an Indian was supposed to bear a charmed life and be for the time invulnerable to poisoned arrows or javelins. Altar Rock, which modern writers call Pulpit Rock, Chimney Rock, Steeple Rock, or Nelson’s Rock, is one of the most remarkable natural wonders in Pennsylvania. Its diameter in no part being over ten feet, it rises like a graceful column to a height of sixty feet, where it is surmounted by a flat slab, the dimensions of which are about ten by twelve. The entire cliff is composed of brownstone and is undulated and fluted by the action of water in past ages. On top of the flat slab stands a living white pine, forty feet tall; its gnarled roots clutch at the rocks in a grim effort to hold its place from which the tree can gain sustenance, but it grows healthy and green in its barren home. There was once a second white pine, the exact counterpart of its mate, growing on the rock; but it was struck by lightning, lifted bodily from the roots, and blown into the valley below. One bright September morning after Two-Pines, the soothsayer, had spent the night on top of Altar Rock in meditation and prayer, he heard the crack of a gun fired somewhere near the Sinnemahoning. A few minutes later he came face to face with a Frenchman, Piere Le bo, dragging the carcass of a bill elk to the river’s edge to sink it until he might have time to prepare it for eating. Two-Pines’ anger was thoroughly aroused. To see this intruder killing the beasts of the forest, which he thought belonged to the Indians, was too much for him. He struck the Frenchman a terrific blow on the head with a stone mallet, crushing his skull and causing instant death. Then he climbed back to his retreat on Altar Rock and prayed rapturously for the gift of strength to annihilate the white beings who defiled the valley of the Sinnemahoning. It was in this attitude of prayer that he heard the footsteps and whispering voices in the wood beneath. Nearer and nearer they came, until through the leaves, he saw four heavily armed French trappers. Two-Pines arose and stood erect. In the dignity of his titanic stature, and with arms folded across his breasts, he seemed to defy the avengers to slay him on his immortal pedestal, where poisoned arrows and javelins had less effect than drops of summer rain. A little Frenchman named LaFitte leaned his heavy gun upon a snag, took careful aim, and fired at the defiant warrior. There was a loud report, and when the foul-smelling smoke had cleared, the dead body of Two-Pines lay upon Altar Rock. An hour later the Frenchmen abandoned Grande Pointe with its valuable stores and started downstream in canoes. That night the camp was looted and burned by the Indians; whether the trappers succeeded in reaching friendly refuge or were murdered on the way has never been determined. But from the flat top of Altar Rock two little pines with long silky needles sprouted slender and straight. Taller and taller they grew until, side by side, with their smooth-barked trunks and shapely tangle of dark green foliage, they resembled the figure of an Indian youth, the slain but defiant Two-Pines. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:36 AM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > Blank > Hi everyone! > > Last night on my way to Renovo, I happened to remember the indian statue that stands on top of the rock mountain below Sinnemahoning. (I always have to think about the spelling on that). There it was, still standing after all this time. Anyway, what's the story on that indian statue? Anyone know? > > Bernie > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Invite your family and friends to join us! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > >

Sorry Bernie, Here is the corrected version. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > Hi Bernie, I found the time to type this up and am going to send it along > to you. Some of the location spellings are different, but I typed them as > written. I got this copy from the Renovo library because Seth Nelson tied > into a family line I was working on. I have a story about Seth Nelson also. > He was a well known hunter in the area. Dianne > > The Story of Altar Rock > by Henry W. Shoemaker > > “The Story of Altar Rock” was one of the first legends I collected. I > obtained it in 1898 from Seth I. Nelson, then virtually the last survivor > among Pennsylvania’s famous big-game hunters. His life had nearly spanned > the nineteenth century, as he was born in 1809. Rising above his mountain > cabin near Round Island, Clinton County, was Altar Rock with a lone primeval > white pine growing out of it. Nelson explained that the tree once had a > companion that was blown away by a strong wind. He then proceeded o tell me > the following legend woven around those two white pine trees: > > In the first half of the eighteenth century, several bands of French > trappers found their way from the trading posts on Lake Erie o the Elk > branch of the Sinnemahoning Creek. They followed this steam to the main > run, where some of them went out the Bennett Branch toward Benezet, while > another party of five built a camp and stockade on a high point at the great > bend west of what is now Round Island station. The camp, which was > christened Grande Point, and even the subsequent history of the foundations > of the camp can be located in the pine forest that has since grown up on the > scene of this ancient fortification. > The French policy toward the Indians was to fraternize and be honorable in > all dealings with them, and for this reason their trading and trapping > enterprises were successful. > However, a few of the young bucks did not like the whites, especially after > the building of the Grande Pointe camp, which seemed to indicate that they > would live there permanently. But, the squaws and less warlike of the > braves, who bartered furs for undreamed-of fineries and liquor, were glad of > he whites’ presence in the neighborhood. > Of al the hostile braves, none carried more bitter and uncompromising > hatred than did the tall, spare young soothsayer whose name translated is > equivalent to “Two Pines”. > A medicine man by descent, he visioned nothing but frightful omens of his > people’s annihilation at the hands of the pale-faced strangers. Still, the > need for barter and luxury was too strong in the majority of the tribe for > them to give more than a passing thought to forebodings. They turned away, > shaking their heads, when on festal days Two-Pines mounted Altar Rock for > devotions; on this narrow ledge an Indian was supposed to bear a charmed > life and be for the time invulnerable to poisoned arrows or javelins. > Altar Rock, which modern writers call Pulpit Rock, Chimney Rock, Steeple > Rock, or Nelson’s Rock, is one of the most remarkable natural wonders in > Pennsylvania. Its diameter in no part being over ten feet, it rises like a > graceful to a height of sixty feet, where it is surmounted by a flat slab, > the dimensions of which are about ten by twelve. The entire cliff is > composed of brownstone and is undulated and fluted by the action of water in > past ages. > On top of the flat slab stands a living white pine, fory feet tall; ints > gnarled roots clutch at the rocks in a grim effort to hold its place from > which the tree can gain sustenance, but it grows healthy and green in its > barren home. There was once a second white pine, the exact counterpart of > its mate, growing on the rock; but it was struck by lightning, lifted bodily > from the roots, and blown into the valley below. > One bright September morning after Two-Pines, the soothsayer, had spent the > night on top of Altar Rock in meditation and prayer, he heard the crack of a > gun fired somewhere near the Sinnemahoning. A few minutes later he came > face to face with a Frenchman, Piere Le bo, dragging the carcass of a bill > elk to the river’s edge to sink it until he might have time to prepare it > for eating. Two-Pines’ anger was thoroughly aroused. To see this intruder > killing the beasts of the forest, which he thought belonged to the Indians, > was too much for him. He struck the Frenchman a terrific blow on the head > with a stone mallet, crushing his skull and causing instant death. Then he > climbed back to his retreat on Altar Rock and prayed rapturously for the > gift of strength to annihilate the white beings who defiled the valley of > the Sinnemahoning. > It was in this attitude of prayer that he heard the footsteps and > whispering voices in th wood beneath. Nearer and nearer they came, until > through the leaves, he saw four heavily armed French trappers. Two-Pines > arose and stood erect. In the dignity of his titanic stature, and with arms > folded across his breasts, he seemed to defy the avengers to slay him on his > immortal pedestal, where poisoned arrows and javelins had less effect than > drops of summer rain. > A little Frenchman named LaFitte leaned his heavy gun upon a snag, took > careful aim, and fired at the defiant warrior. There was a loud report, and > when the foul-smelling smoke had cleared, the dead body of Two-Pines lay > upon Altar Rock. > An hour later the Frenchmen abandoned Grande Pointe with its valuable > stores and started downstream in canoes. That night the camp was looted and > burned by the Indians; whether the trappers succeeded in reaching friendly > refuge or were murdered on the way has never been determined. But from the > flat top of Altar Rock two little pines with long silky needles sprouted > slender and straight. Taller and taller they grew until, side by side, with > their smooth-barked trunks and shapely tangle of dark green foliage, they > resembled the figure of an Indian youth, the slain but defiant Two-Pines. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > Thanks Diane, I'll look forward to it. > > > > Bernie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > > > > Hi Bernie, I found the story in Renovo library. The rock is known as > > > lookout point. It was used by the Indians to watch the river. It is an > > > interesting story. It is too long a story to type here. But, I will > try > > to > > > make it to the next club meeting and bring a copy along. Dianne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:36 AM > > > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > > > > > > > Blank > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > > > Last night on my way to Renovo, I happened to remember the indian > statue > > > that stands on top of the rock mountain below Sinnemahoning. (I always > > have > > > to think about the spelling on that). There it was, still standing > after > > > all this time. Anyway, what's the story on that indian statue? Anyone > > > know? > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > > > Invite your family and friends to join us! > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

Hi Bernie, I found the time to type this up and am going to send it along to you. Some of the location spellings are different, but I typed them as written. I got this copy from the Renovo library because Seth Nelson tied into a family line I was working on. I have a story about Seth Nelson also. He was a well known hunter in the area. Dianne The Story of Altar Rock by Henry W. Shoemaker “The Story of Altar Rock” was one of the first legends I collected. I obtained it in 1898 from Seth I. Nelson, then virtually the last survivor among Pennsylvania’s famous big-game hunters. His life had nearly spanned the nineteenth century, as he was born in 1809. Rising above his mountain cabin near Round Island, Clinton County, was Altar Rock with a lone primeval white pine growing out of it. Nelson explained that the tree once had a companion that was blown away by a strong wind. He then proceeded o tell me the following legend woven around those two white pine trees: In the first half of the eighteenth century, several bands of French trappers found their way from the trading posts on Lake Erie o the Elk branch of the Sinnemahoning Creek. They followed this steam to the main run, where some of them went out the Bennett Branch toward Benezet, while another party of five built a camp and stockade on a high point at the great bend west of what is now Round Island station. The camp, which was christened Grande Point, and even the subsequent history of the foundations of the camp can be located in the pine forest that has since grown up on the scene of this ancient fortification. The French policy toward the Indians was to fraternize and be honorable in all dealings with them, and for this reason their trading and trapping enterprises were successful. However, a few of the young bucks did not like the whites, especially after the building of the Grande Pointe camp, which seemed to indicate that they would live there permanently. But, the squaws and less warlike of the braves, who bartered furs for undreamed-of fineries and liquor, were glad of he whites’ presence in the neighborhood. Of al the hostile braves, none carried more bitter and uncompromising hatred than did the tall, spare young soothsayer whose name translated is equivalent to “Two Pines”. A medicine man by descent, he visioned nothing but frightful omens of his people’s annihilation at the hands of the pale-faced strangers. Still, the need for barter and luxury was too strong in the majority of the tribe for them to give more than a passing thought to forebodings. They turned away, shaking their heads, when on festal days Two-Pines mounted Altar Rock for devotions; on this narrow ledge an Indian was supposed to bear a charmed life and be for the time invulnerable to poisoned arrows or javelins. Altar Rock, which modern writers call Pulpit Rock, Chimney Rock, Steeple Rock, or Nelson’s Rock, is one of the most remarkable natural wonders in Pennsylvania. Its diameter in no part being over ten feet, it rises like a graceful to a height of sixty feet, where it is surmounted by a flat slab, the dimensions of which are about ten by twelve. The entire cliff is composed of brownstone and is undulated and fluted by the action of water in past ages. On top of the flat slab stands a living white pine, fory feet tall; ints gnarled roots clutch at the rocks in a grim effort to hold its place from which the tree can gain sustenance, but it grows healthy and green in its barren home. There was once a second white pine, the exact counterpart of its mate, growing on the rock; but it was struck by lightning, lifted bodily from the roots, and blown into the valley below. One bright September morning after Two-Pines, the soothsayer, had spent the night on top of Altar Rock in meditation and prayer, he heard the crack of a gun fired somewhere near the Sinnemahoning. A few minutes later he came face to face with a Frenchman, Piere Le bo, dragging the carcass of a bill elk to the river’s edge to sink it until he might have time to prepare it for eating. Two-Pines’ anger was thoroughly aroused. To see this intruder killing the beasts of the forest, which he thought belonged to the Indians, was too much for him. He struck the Frenchman a terrific blow on the head with a stone mallet, crushing his skull and causing instant death. Then he climbed back to his retreat on Altar Rock and prayed rapturously for the gift of strength to annihilate the white beings who defiled the valley of the Sinnemahoning. It was in this attitude of prayer that he heard the footsteps and whispering voices in th wood beneath. Nearer and nearer they came, until through the leaves, he saw four heavily armed French trappers. Two-Pines arose and stood erect. In the dignity of his titanic stature, and with arms folded across his breasts, he seemed to defy the avengers to slay him on his immortal pedestal, where poisoned arrows and javelins had less effect than drops of summer rain. A little Frenchman named LaFitte leaned his heavy gun upon a snag, took careful aim, and fired at the defiant warrior. There was a loud report, and when the foul-smelling smoke had cleared, the dead body of Two-Pines lay upon Altar Rock. An hour later the Frenchmen abandoned Grande Pointe with its valuable stores and started downstream in canoes. That night the camp was looted and burned by the Indians; whether the trappers succeeded in reaching friendly refuge or were murdered on the way has never been determined. But from the flat top of Altar Rock two little pines with long silky needles sprouted slender and straight. Taller and taller they grew until, side by side, with their smooth-barked trunks and shapely tangle of dark green foliage, they resembled the figure of an Indian youth, the slain but defiant Two-Pines. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > Thanks Diane, I'll look forward to it. > > Bernie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > Hi Bernie, I found the story in Renovo library. The rock is known as > > lookout point. It was used by the Indians to watch the river. It is an > > interesting story. It is too long a story to type here. But, I will try > to > > make it to the next club meeting and bring a copy along. Dianne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:36 AM > > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > > > > Blank > > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > Last night on my way to Renovo, I happened to remember the indian statue > > that stands on top of the rock mountain below Sinnemahoning. (I always > have > > to think about the spelling on that). There it was, still standing after > > all this time. Anyway, what's the story on that indian statue? Anyone > > know? > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > > Invite your family and friends to join us! > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

Grove township would have been in the wilderness in the 1830's with less than 50 families. From Beer's History; page 913 "In 1829 Wykoff's saw and grist mill stood near where Barclay's lumber mills are now, but were decaying prior to 1840." The first Church in Grove was the M.E. church in 1878. However there is mention of a log house used for school and church services before 1842. They would have been serviced by a circuit minister who went from town to town. Those records only go back to 1867. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Cameron county border shifts > http://bowercommunity.com/homestead/EdwardBowers.html > Sorry I forgot to put it in. > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cunhel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:03 PM > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Cameron county border shifts > > > > Would anyone know what county Grove Township was part of in 1832? > > What church would my Wykoff relatives have attended? I would like to get > birth information and a marriage record for my Harriet Wykoff. > > > > Michele > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

http://bowercommunity.com/homestead/EdwardBowers.html Sorry I forgot to put it in. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "cunhel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Cameron county border shifts > Would anyone know what county Grove Township was part of in 1832? > What church would my Wykoff relatives have attended? I would like to get birth information and a marriage record for my Harriet Wykoff. > > Michele > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

Hi. Michele. This is bob Spellenberg .Here's a site with an obit .The person was from Grove twp. Pa. Cameron County. Talk to ya later Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "cunhel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Cameron county border shifts > Would anyone know what county Grove Township was part of in 1832? > What church would my Wykoff relatives have attended? I would like to get birth information and a marriage record for my Harriet Wykoff. > > Michele > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

Would anyone know what county Grove Township was part of in 1832? What church would my Wykoff relatives have attended? I would like to get birth information and a marriage record for my Harriet Wykoff. Michele

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Agliardo, Keltz, Grantier, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Heitner" <[email protected]> > To: "Mike" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:17 AM > Subject: RE: 1940 Video > > > > Agliardo side of the family: > > I am looking for my grandfathers naturalization papers. I looked at the > court house in Emporium put didn't find either my grandfather or > grandmother Angelo & Carmella Roberto Agliardo. Grandpa came in the late > 1880 and grandma came with Aunt Lena in 1897 all from Italy. Someone > told me there is naturalization papers at the little museum. May we > might even get lucky and find more information. > > Keltz side of the family: > > Also looking for any information on my gg-grandparents Henry L Keltz & > Alice Grantier Keltz. I have death cert, and obit. I need Marriage cert. > > Grandpa Henry died in Nov/Dec 23, 1901 (I think he was born in 1830) I > found him in 1900 in McKean (Norwich). Very little information on him > and his family. Would like any information..birth cert. Marriage cert. > Obit. From those I hope to track the family further. > > > Grantier side of the family: > > Grandma Alice was born in Roaring Branch Jan 29, 1949. Her father's > name was John Grantier no listing on death cert., As to his wife's > name. According to the 1870 she lived with her father, and other > siblings in Shippen Township, In 1880 she lived with her brother > Charles and her daughter Minnie (my grandmother). > > What I am searching for is the mother of Alice Grantier Keltz. Alice is > suppose to be buried in Moore Hill....found nothing with her name. > > Mike do you know anything about the statue on the left side of the road > going up Moore Hill. It is very large and is covered by some trees. I > think the name "Parker" was one it. I was wondering if that also could > be cemetery grounds on Moore Hill. Just curious. > > > My brother Angelo & I went to Moore Hill looking for family graves but > found no stones or markings of any kind. We want to find Alice & Henry > so we can put markers up. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. > > Pat Agliardo Heitner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:23 PM > To: Pat Heitner > Subject: 1940 Video > > Hi! > > Got one (DVD) saved for you. > > What information are you looking for? If I have it, it will not cost > you > anything. Have you checked my website for it? > > > Mike Wennin > Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Heitner" <[email protected]> To: "Mike" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: RE: 1940 Video Agliardo side of the family: I am looking for my grandfathers naturalization papers. I looked at the court house in Emporium put didn't find either my grandfather or grandmother Angelo & Carmella Roberto Agliardo. Grandpa came in the late 1880 and grandma came with Aunt Lena in 1897 all from Italy. Someone told me there is naturalization papers at the little museum. May we might even get lucky and find more information. Keltz side of the family: Also looking for any information on my gg-grandparents Henry L Keltz & Alice Grantier Keltz. I have death cert, and obit. I need Marriage cert. Grandpa Henry died in Nov/Dec 23, 1901 (I think he was born in 1830) I found him in 1900 in McKean (Norwich). Very little information on him and his family. Would like any information..birth cert. Marriage cert. Obit. From those I hope to track the family further. Grantier side of the family: Grandma Alice was born in Roaring Branch Jan 29, 1949. Her father's name was John Grantier no listing on death cert., As to his wife's name. According to the 1870 she lived with her father, and other siblings in Shippen Township, In 1880 she lived with her brother Charles and her daughter Minnie (my grandmother). What I am searching for is the mother of Alice Grantier Keltz. Alice is suppose to be buried in Moore Hill....found nothing with her name. Mike do you know anything about the statue on the left side of the road going up Moore Hill. It is very large and is covered by some trees. I think the name "Parker" was one it. I was wondering if that also could be cemetery grounds on Moore Hill. Just curious. My brother Angelo & I went to Moore Hill looking for family graves but found no stones or markings of any kind. We want to find Alice & Henry so we can put markers up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Pat Agliardo Heitner -----Original Message----- From: Mike [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:23 PM To: Pat Heitner Subject: 1940 Video Hi! Got one (DVD) saved for you. What information are you looking for? If I have it, it will not cost you anything. Have you checked my website for it? Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

Thanks Diane, I'll look forward to it. Bernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane DeShong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > Hi Bernie, I found the story in Renovo library. The rock is known as > lookout point. It was used by the Indians to watch the river. It is an > interesting story. It is too long a story to type here. But, I will try to > make it to the next club meeting and bring a copy along. Dianne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernie Oswald" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:36 AM > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] RE: The indian > > > > Blank > > Hi everyone! > > > > Last night on my way to Renovo, I happened to remember the indian statue > that stands on top of the rock mountain below Sinnemahoning. (I always have > to think about the spelling on that). There it was, still standing after > all this time. Anyway, what's the story on that indian statue? Anyone > know? > > > > Bernie > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Invite your family and friends to join us! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > >

Thanks Mike, no I wasn't aware of the relationship through the Jordans although I do think we are related through the Gore's too, but just haven't seen the connection yet. The weather is so nice here in Florida, tonight it's 70 degrees yet at 9:30 p.m. Now I'm going to tell you a story about my Wykoff connections that just took place: Recently in Canada my wife's friend of over 25 years, Evert Walker Tisdale and I were discussing genealogy and I mentioned that we had just been to NYC and while there we visited the oldest house in New York State which belonged to my seventh great grandfather Pieter Clasen Wyckoff. He said immediatily that he had Wyckoff's in his genealogy. I said I didn't think that that could be possible as all Wyckoffs descended from this one person, Pieter Clasen Wyckoff who chose his sire name back in 1655 in Flatlands(Brooklyn)NY when the British took control of it after the Dutch. He got out a Tisdale genealogy book and showed me that his great great grandmother was indeed an Abigail Wyckoff. It seems that a Peter Wyckoff who was a United Empire Loyalist, left Flatlands(Brooklyn) NY after the Revolutionary War and went to Canada. My wife and I using information from his book and online information from Norfolk County, Ontario actually connected up our two lines and as it turns out he and I are are eighth cousins once removed. If you think genealogy really is exciting, just find someone who is connected to you with those odds. It is truly amazing and I still reeling from learning all of this information. Evert's Tisdale line begins in America in the Massachutessets Bay Colony. This stuff we do called genealogy is truly amazing!! Send ALL mail to: [email protected] Visit my "All American" Home Page at: http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger From: "Mike" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:43:00 -0500 Nice to see you back! Did you know that we are cousins through a Jordan connection? Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! > Thanks Mike for the heads-up alert. > > > > Send ALL mail to: [email protected] > > Visit my "All American" Home Page at: > http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ > > Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mike" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "Mike" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:24 -0500 > > There is a new virus going around that got by me. > > It looks like an email from your Internet Provider. It says that your email > account is about to be disconnected. There is an attached file. NO NOT > OPEN THE FILE! DELETE THE EMAIL! > > Took me a while to get it off my computer. Hopefully this heads up will > prevent you the trouble of removing it! > > > Mike Wennin > Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

Thanks Mike for the heads-up alert. Send ALL mail to: [email protected] Visit my "All American" Home Page at: http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger From: "Mike" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:24 -0500 There is a new virus going around that got by me. It looks like an email from your Internet Provider. It says that your email account is about to be disconnected. There is an attached file. NO NOT OPEN THE FILE! DELETE THE EMAIL! Took me a while to get it off my computer. Hopefully this heads up will prevent you the trouble of removing it! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

Nice to see you back! Did you know that we are cousins through a Jordan connection? Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! > Thanks Mike for the heads-up alert. > > > > Send ALL mail to: [email protected] > > Visit my "All American" Home Page at: > http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ > > Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mike" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "Mike" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] New Virus WARNING! > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:24 -0500 > > There is a new virus going around that got by me. > > It looks like an email from your Internet Provider. It says that your email > account is about to be disconnected. There is an attached file. NO NOT > OPEN THE FILE! DELETE THE EMAIL! > > Took me a while to get it off my computer. Hopefully this heads up will > prevent you the trouble of removing it! > > > Mike Wennin > Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. > Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] >

There is a new virus going around that got by me. It looks like an email from your Internet Provider. It says that your email account is about to be disconnected. There is an attached file. NO NOT OPEN THE FILE! DELETE THE EMAIL! Took me a while to get it off my computer. Hopefully this heads up will prevent you the trouble of removing it! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

Thanks for the info. Michele Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "cunhel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Isaac Wykoff > Glenda: > > I have been doing research on my Eisenhauers, who passed through St. Mary's > in the 1850's. They have all of the church records there. They have been > willing to do look-ups and send information for a small "donation." > > Michele > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Card" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:04 PM > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Isaac Wykoff > > > > I am looking for any info on a Isaac Wykoff 1835 Homer, Potter Co. Pa. > died 1914 Ridgway, Elk Co. Pa. s/o Charles Wykoff and Eleanor Jordan. > Interested in his second wife, Elizabeth Gibbs. born 1850 in Ny, died 1941 > in Pa. buried St. Marys, Elk Co. Her father was a Thomas Gibbs, born in > England, according to her death cert. Trying to tie her into my mother's > family line of "Gibbs". > > Glenda Neenan Card > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Invite your family and friends to join us! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >