You came through loud and clear this time Helen...do it just like this all the time! "Reply to All" is the answer. Pete Send ALL mail to: [email protected] Visit my "All American" Home Page at: http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Fix the problem Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:22:05 EST At some point last year something happened that prevents me from getting/seeing emails that are sent by anyone in the group to the PACAMERO List. The only thing I ever get is notes, news, and reminders from Mike. Not that I mind, but I joined this list to be a part of an active group. Even when I respond to Mike, the group does not see it my response unless I hit reply all. I didn't used to have to do that. I was wondering if perhaps I should remove myself from the list and then sign up again? Does anyone have any feedback or suggestions for me? Thanks for any help. Helen ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1

There is nothing strange about the way this list is set up. There is an option in the set up of the list to reply only to the sender or reply to the entire list. Most lists are set up to reply only to the sender, which I believe restricts participation. Like on this list, we have about 100+ people who only lurk hoping something of interest comes along, from time to time something of interest does come along in a reply to someone else's question....so by replying only to sender would exclude those people. I like including everyone. For some reason when I post to the list, you must "reply to all" in order for your response to go out to the list. I do not know why and rootsweb does not know why. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAL" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Silly me > HELEN: > > Is right, there is something strange about the way this list is set up. > > All the messages from any one but Mike seem to have the line > " Reply-To: [email protected]" > > One those you can only reply to [email protected] unless you copy and > paste the others persons name in. > > Most other list we belong to do not have that line. > > And you can reply to the list or just to the person. > > Even the Clearfield county list does not have that line. > > Why?????????????? > > Robin > > [email protected] wrote: > > > I guess that last email/question is directed only at Mike because if anyone > > else responds, unless it's directly to me, I'm not going to see it. > > Thanks. > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Invite your family and friends to join us! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

You have not missed much, no one has been sending notes to the list much lately. You can always check to see if you have missed anything by going to Search Old Emails...put pacamero in the search field and all of the messages for the year will come up. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:22 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Fix the problem > At some point last year something happened that prevents me from > getting/seeing emails that are sent by anyone in the group to the PACAMERO List. > The only thing I ever get is notes, news, and reminders from Mike. Not that > I mind, but I joined this list to be a part of an active group. Even when I > respond to Mike, the group does not see it my response unless I hit reply all. > I didn't used to have to do that. > I was wondering if perhaps I should remove myself from the list and then sign > up again? Does anyone have any feedback or suggestions for me? > Thanks for any help. > Helen > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

I guess that last email/question is directed only at Mike because if anyone else responds, unless it's directly to me, I'm not going to see it. Thanks.

At some point last year something happened that prevents me from getting/seeing emails that are sent by anyone in the group to the PACAMERO List. The only thing I ever get is notes, news, and reminders from Mike. Not that I mind, but I joined this list to be a part of an active group. Even when I respond to Mike, the group does not see it my response unless I hit reply all. I didn't used to have to do that. I was wondering if perhaps I should remove myself from the list and then sign up again? Does anyone have any feedback or suggestions for me? Thanks for any help. Helen

HELEN: Is right, there is something strange about the way this list is set up. All the messages from any one but Mike seem to have the line " Reply-To: [email protected]" One those you can only reply to [email protected] unless you copy and paste the others persons name in. Most other list we belong to do not have that line. And you can reply to the list or just to the person. Even the Clearfield county list does not have that line. Why?????????????? Robin [email protected] wrote: > I guess that last email/question is directed only at Mike because if anyone > else responds, unless it's directly to me, I'm not going to see it. > Thanks. > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Invite your family and friends to join us! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

I will have a report soon on the January Meeting. I just finalized a guest speaker for the Feb.7th Meeting and wanted to let you know. Dave Reed, the County Prothonotary will be our guest speaker. He will discuss what records are available at the court house and how to access them. Should be an interesting meeting. Looking forward to seeing you there! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

I got this from another list and found my 3rd Great Grandfather and his son's land patents in Oregon in it. Maybe you can find something too! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: [GORE] Bureau of Land Management - General Land Office Records > Hello Gore researchers, > I would like to share a web address with all of you that a friend just told me about. I found 14 pages of Gore land patent deeds there, including my Gore family in Johnson County, IL. Many of the deeds listed have downloadable images of the original document in pdf, gif & tif formats. Here's the url: > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ > > Happy hunting! > Steve Gore > Brown County, IN > > > ==== GORE Mailing List ==== > Haven't broken through your Gore 'brick wall' yet? Have you posted to the list? > Remember, this is a source for FREE QUERIES! Use it often! >

I haven't been monitoring this group for awhile, but one of my research buddies contacted me about a discussion of Elizabeth OVERTURF. I am a direct descendant of Andrew Overturf who settled in Gibson twp. somewhere between 1800 and 1804 depending on what source you read. Andrew had two sons, John and Andrew II and three daughters: Elizabeth Overturf Dent, Catherine Overturf Mix and Susannah Overturf Shepard. Andrew II and John married sisters Hannah and Mary Jordan, daughters of James and Mercy Emry Jordan. Each of them had a daughter Elizabeth. John's daughter Elizabeth married George W. Smith and I have an approximate birth date of 1808 for her. Andrew II's daughter Elizabeth was born 9 July 1813 and was married 10 January 1836 in Sinnemahoning to Thomas, Holland. The two ladies were what we used to call "double cousins" because the mothers were sisters and their fathers were brothers. Andrew the original settler was a widower with six children when he arrived in America, and there is a second marriage in Philadelphia to an Elizabeth - so she would have been the Grandmother to the two ladies in question and the mother of Elizabeth Overturf Dent their Aunt and is likely the reason for the naming pattern. I hope this helps and doesn't confuse further - since I just rejoined the list and haven't read the messages I can't tell. Lauren Brantner

Hello Everyone: In going over the info under James Jordan (1-4), I have found something that has me Wondering! Under Mary Jordan #9 cir 1815 has married a John Overturf (no dates). Their daughter Elizabeth #42 has married a George W Smith cir 1808 (no other info). IF Mary was 16 when she had Elizabeth, that would make Elizabeth born cir 1821. George's first child was born in 1834, so that would make Elizabeth 13 when first child was born. Even in that era I don't think the parents would have let her marry at 13 & especially to a man older than themselves. Some have Elizabeth, Mary's sister, married to George. The census & the James Jordan history (Elizabeth also known as Betsy in census) is married to Thomas Holland a minister (the ages in the history & 1850 & 60 census are consistent for her). In the 1860 census ther is no wife for George W Smith. (my grandmother said that her grandmother Smith had passed away before her parents married circa 1875. Please understand that I am not trying to cause any TROUBLE, (& that the person who did most of this family history work is no longer with us), but there were some items that came to my attention & it just happened to be my particular ancestor. Thank you for your help in getting to the facts of John Scott Smith who was born Oct 1847 & is most likely the son of George W & Elizabeth ?? ? ?? Smith. . Thank you Linda Bauman

I found this post in 2002 [email protected] Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:02 AM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Looking for the author of some old posts > > --part1_c4.2a74347.2d2d6b71_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi all - > > I am trying to contact a woman who posted messages on the Cameron Message > boards between 1999-2001 and not having any luck with the email addresses on the > posts. Her name is Barbra. In one of her posts she lists a Lillian Seely in > her surnames line, and I would like to know if this could possibly by my > g-grandfather William Seelye's sister. Lillie Seelye was born in > Beechwood/Rathbun area on May 10, 1861, the daughter of Simon and Rebecca (Haines?) Seelye. > > Other names Barbra lists are Hettie Hicks, Levi Hicks, James Patchell and > Roarin' Jack Bell. She says her grandmother is Charlotte Bell Seely Hicks. If > Barbra is still out there, or anyone else knows Barbra or her information, can > you please contact me? > > Thank You > Laura Bent > > > --part1_c4.2a74347.2d2d6b71_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] > Full-name: Lauralbent > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:14:51 EST > Subject: Looking for the author of some old posts > To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 > > Hi all - > > I am trying to contact a woman who posted messages on the Cameron Message > boards between 1999-2001 and not having any luck with the email addresses on the > posts. Her name is Barbra. In one of her posts she lists a Lillian Seely in > her surnames line, and I would like to know if this could possibly by my > g-grandfather William Seelye's sister. Lillie Seelye was born in Beechwood/Rathbun > area on May 10, 1861, the daughter of Simon and Rebecca (Haines?) Seelye. > > Other names Barbra lists are Hettie Hicks, Levi Hicks, James Patchell and > Roarin' Jack Bell. She says her grandmother is Charlotte Bell Seely Hicks. If > Barbra is still out there, or anyone else knows Barbra or her information, can > you please contact me? > > Thank You > Laura Bent > > --part1_c4.2a74347.2d2d6b71_boundary-- > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] >

I am wondering if this got around? I thought some one would have jumped on this. Thanks! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:56 PM Subject: Fw: Re Jordan/ Overturf/ Smith > Please "reply to all" so that your response gets back to the list. Thanks! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:15 PM > Subject: Re Jordan/ Overturf/ Smith > > > > In going over the info under James Jordan, I have found some that has me > > wondering. > > > > In the # 9 Mary Jordan cir 1815 has married a John Overturf. No dates > > Their daughter # 42 Elizabeth no dates is married a George W Smith Cir > 1808. > > > > If Mary was 16 when she had Elizabeth that would put her born about 1821. > > George's first child was born 1834. That would make Elizabeth 13 yrs old. > Even > > in that era I don't think that Elizabeth's parents would have let her > marry & > > especially to a man older than themselves. > > > > Is anyone working on this particular family? And can you see why these > > questions have come to my attention. I understand that the gentleman, who > did most > > of this work' is no longer with us, so may be almost impossible to > untangle! > > > > Others have Mary's sister Elizabeth married to George, but in census & > James > > Jordon Line Elizabeth is married to a Thomas Holland a minister. In 1860 > > census she is Betsy. > > Also George W Smith has no wife listed in 1860 census. > > > > Thank You for your help in getting to the facts of my John Scott Smith, > who > > was born in Oct 1847 & is most like the son of George W & > Elizabeth__???___ > > Smith. > > > > Linda Bauman > > >

Please "reply to all" so that your response gets back to the list. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: Re Jordan/ Overturf/ Smith > In going over the info under James Jordan, I have found some that has me > wondering. > > In the # 9 Mary Jordan cir 1815 has married a John Overturf. No dates > Their daughter # 42 Elizabeth no dates is married a George W Smith Cir 1808. > > If Mary was 16 when she had Elizabeth that would put her born about 1821. > George's first child was born 1834. That would make Elizabeth 13 yrs old. Even > in that era I don't think that Elizabeth's parents would have let her marry & > especially to a man older than themselves. > > Is anyone working on this particular family? And can you see why these > questions have come to my attention. I understand that the gentleman, who did most > of this work' is no longer with us, so may be almost impossible to untangle! > > Others have Mary's sister Elizabeth married to George, but in census & James > Jordon Line Elizabeth is married to a Thomas Holland a minister. In 1860 > census she is Betsy. > Also George W Smith has no wife listed in 1860 census. > > Thank You for your help in getting to the facts of my John Scott Smith, who > was born in Oct 1847 & is most like the son of George W & Elizabeth__???___ > Smith. > > Linda Bauman >

Mike, my apologies for not replying sooner, I am not sure if I have any connection to the Berk's Co. area, will try to research this and get back to you as soon as possible, thanks so much for your message. Jay

Thought someone could use this. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: [Clearfield] Last Call For Native American Ancestor Roster Forms for Pa > Last year I had several people contact me from the lists about the Native > American Ancestor Roster, and my book series mentioned in my signature. > > I am still collecting Native American Ancestor Roster registrations to appear > in Volume III of my book series Who's Looking For Whom In Native American > Ancestry. The first volume to concentrate on one state. > > If you, or anyone you know that is researching Native Ancestors in > Pennsylvania and would like to have the added exposure for their research that these > books provide. All you have to do is email me for a registration form. > > About the NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS ROSTER > > I am not a Genealogist for hire. I do not research anyone's ancestors for > them. I only refer researchers to each other and research resources. The roster > contains the name of the person doing the research, so I am able to refer > researchers to each other in the hopes of reuniting lost relatives. > > Anyone contacting the Roster about your ancestor will be given your contact > information. They will contact you directly for further information. > > Registration is FREE. But each Ancestors name must be submitted separately. > You can make as many copies of the registration form as you need. You can make > as many copies as you want and hand them out to other researchers as well. I'm > sorry but I cannot accept them via email. I need the signed registration > forms on file giving me permission to give out the contact information. > > All registered Ancestors information, and researchers contact information > will be published in upcoming Volumes of "Who's Looking For Whom In Native > American Ancestry". > > When the form is received, I will check the Roster for others researching the > same names. If no one has registered as researching the names or a similar > surname, I will check other files at my disposal for information. > > These other files include: > Tribal contact addresses. > Information on researching specific tribes. > List of surnames common to certain tribes. > URL for Websites of interest recommended by other researchers in the network. > > Registering your ancestors ensures you can take full advantage of future > referrals. > > NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS ROSTER REGISTRATION > > When you request and recieve the Roster Registration form. Please type or > print legibly, I cannot be held responsible for any information incorrectly > copied from your form. And tell me your family tradition in 250 words or less. Keep > a copy of the form for your records. You must send a self addressed stamped > envelope if you wish acknowledgment of receipt. Then, Please contact me by mail > if any of your contact information (name, address, phone #) changes. Keeping > your contact information up to date will allow me to refer those enquiries > interested in your ancestor. > > Laurie Beth Roman > [email protected] > Author of the book series Who's Looking For Whom In Native American Ancestry; > Volumes I & II > Volume III to concentrate on Native Ancestor Research in Pa. > Developed The Native American Ancestors Roster Database > Available for Book Signings, Speaking Engagements, Classes & Workshops. > Writer Native American Ancestry Research, Writer's Nest, & Book Reviews > columns at www.riverviewonline.com > Surnames: > Adams, Allshouse, Ostander, Murray, White & Whiteman in SWPA. > Evans, Gamble, Russel, & Stalcup Phila Pa., > Baker & Darrah in NY & NJ. > Roman in NY, NJ & Sweden. >

Mike I have been reading a lot on the web site since I saw all the updates and everything going on. I really like what is happening for Emporium and the Cameron Couny information for all of us. I have been researching the Barker's for sometime and have the information clear back to England - about 150 pages from then to now and still growing. I would like to do something up for the family on the web site. Mike Neyman has been helping me on sending pic's and information from the paper that appear. I have articles from the Historical Society (years ago) I gathered all of that. I have been tracking stories and all sorts of things that pertain to our family to present it to family members at the Reunion (hopefully) this year. Mike's wife was so kind that she bought me the CD as a x-mas present - I just loved it. Merrick Barker walked out of the Courthouse to get filmed. I can't wait till I can get over to show it to my parents as they both grew up in Emporium. If you can let me know what or how much information and pic's and how to send it in for the web site - I would really appreciate it Sue (Barker) Bemiller Johnstown, Ohio

Does anyone know about a William Huff, born 1870-80, possibly near Driftwood? He was associated with a John O. Rhone from the Keating Mountain area. Thank you. ```Nancy Rhone-Narehood Taylor``` "The Ties That Bind" Family History/Genealogy "Search for Your Ancestors, Don't Leave Them in the Dust"

Jay, Thanks for the email! My wife, Dorie, like so many other people, is related to the BARR's and LEWIS' of Cameron and Clinton Counties. How do you connect into the family and I'll search our database for a possible connection. This list has so many descendants and I think even an online family tree so resources are here for you. Your surname is very familiar to me. My own family in Berks County married into the KLOCK family many times. I do not have a direct KLOCK ancester yet; however, my of their siblings married into the family. Any relation in the Berks area? MIKE -----Original Message----- From: J.G. Klock [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Re: PACAMERO-D Digest V04 #7 Hello Mike! Read your message to Cindy regarding Peter Smith. I am Jay Klock , originally from Emporium. I findI am related to the Barr's of Emporium, would like to get more information from you on Dorie's end of the Barr's. Maybe I can connect! My wife , Mary Lou, has done a lot of geneology work on the Klock's and the Barr's. Would appreciate any help you can give us. Thank you very much! Jay Klock ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

Thanks for your input! I used a couple in this online listing. You may have to cut and past the rest of the address to get to the site: http://www.experiencepa.com/experiencepa/details.do?name=Cameron+County+Hist orical+Society%27s+Little+Museum or do a search on Cameron County at experiencepa.com Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

Thanks for sharing your successes! Hopefully more people will take advantage of the opportunity that this email list provides by sharing the names and people they are looking for and/or people they have information on. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce and Cecelia Smith To: Mike Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Membership Hello Mike, Your website did it again! Some recent messages have put us in touch with another branch of the family!!! For the longest time, we have been looking for my grandmother's Hanes family, and FINALLY, Dorothy Lewis has given us the answers we needed. Dorothy's great uncle, David C. Hanes, buried at West Creek, was also my great-grandfather. In addition to this news, Dorothy has told me she is willing to share the data she has on David's mother, Elizabeth Loucks Hanes Morgan, and her German heritage dating to the 1600's ( I didn't even know her name before!). I'm so psyched over all of this, and it is thanks to your great efforts to provide the vehicle for genealogists to get in touch with one another. Laura Bent had responded to Mike LaFaver and at first we believed there was a tie in her Hanes family history (and we may still find it), but then Dorothy responded as well, and that definitely is a connection. I've also been in touch with Mike and learned he lives only a few miles from us, so we hope to get together. He lists family members from Bruce's ancestry, as well as mine, in his data base. Such a small world the Internet has enabled us to become. Thanks, again, for all you are doing for Cameron County genealogists and their families. Cecelia ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero