Run is another name for Creek. Lauren Brantner [email protected] wrote: >Question for those of you who know, to inform those of us who may not. > >Bauer Hollow, Dodge Hollow, Plank Road Hollow > >Eddy Run, Downey Run, Thayer Run, Towner Run > >Why was everything called a Hollow or a Run? > > >==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== >Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > >. > > >

Thank You Everyone, Anyone have Cabin Fever, Yet? Your compliments about the birth records are appreciated. Some of you are aware of my accident in which I got my fingers on my right hand chewed up in a snow blower last year. I want to Thank many of you for your Concerns and Prayers, While I have been recuperating. Your concern has meant so much to me and my family. We maybe spread all over this Blessed Land of the United States of America... But We all have something in common... Our ties to Cameron County, PA via our families. These common ties are still what makes us a family, It Does not matter Who or Where we are. I may have purchased the copies of the birth records to transcribe. My son, William, and I did the best that we could to decipher the information. It still would not have been possible to correct and collect the additional information if it were not for everyone taking time for all of the other projects... Books of Tombstone Inscriptions and Burial Plots of Cameron and Elk Counties, (by Sarah & Iris Caskey) and Clinton County by the Clinton County Clinton County Genealogical Society, along with The Halenbake Ross Library in Lock Haven, who took the time & care keeping family Index cards relating to Newspaper Articles) the Census records, (in which: Mary Ellen Smith did a fantastic job transcribing.), marriage records, (by: Don Hefright) obits (also by: Don Hefright & others), family files (from most of us), files and documents contributed from all of us (Cathy, Dee, Dianne, Helen, Pam, Randy,... and many, Many, MANY!!! Others, Thank You, for just being you.) A Special ! Thank You to: Mike Wennin, for putting up with numerous reports that I have sent to him in the wrong format (RTF ???) and also the wealth of other information that is available on "OUR" site because of Mikes and others diligent work. Last Month on January 5th, I had additional corrective hand surgery. I hope to be able to use both hands and what remains of my fingers on my right hand again by this Spring. (Just in case anyone was wondering how I found the time to get anything done and why I have not been in contact some of you for a long time.) Again, A Very Special Thank You and May God Bless Each and Everyone of You, J.P. Sitnik & family [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Thanks JP we all appreciate your work on our behalf. Pete Send ALL mail to: [email protected] Visit my "All American" Home Page at: http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Birth Records Complete! > In a message dated 2/7/2004 8:36:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > He not only typed > them out, but also cross referenced them to other resources to make sure > they were correct and made notes with references when they were not. He put > a ton of time and effort into this. > > WOW! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, JP! Your efforts are much appreciated. > > Cathi > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== Come Visit The Cameron County Genealogy Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero _________________________________________________________________ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx

Bernie: Did you ever find a photo of Brown's Boot Shop? My uncle Bob Baumgardner from Emporium worked there for 40-odd years! My cousin Jack Cox and I may be able to find something in our photo collections. Jack has been corresponding with U. Bob's granddaughter and she may be able to help us out.

Hello: This to let you know that I agree with all your e-mails & I will say this AGAIN, this is the Best Site I have visited & the Group works as just that & it shows. You have more on this site then some of the others combined & you should be very proud of all your combined efforts. This group is ONE FOR ALL & ALL FOR ONE. You all work for a goal----the same goal. I have just joined the Club & have found out more in the last month from this site than I have found in years of searching in another county & some of that was invalid.....like my g-grandfather had sued my g-grandmother for divorce when it was the other way around & she filed in Cameron Co. Mike got me on the right track there. Its things like that that make you all so very special. He also lead me to some one who helped me get something else settled, that I was questioning. Kepp up the good work I for one will refer this site to any one seeking info in your area with a very high recommendation. Linda Bauman

Sorry about those pic's not getting through my Dad just sent me three e-mails with old tyme photots from the Echo, thought maybe others might like to see them. I will re-send to Mike for the web page. Sue (Barker) Bemiller Ohio

While we read our emails of well deserved praises to J.P., let us not forget his son William. Your combined efforts to decipher and transcribe 13 years worth of information will benefit many for years to come. For all those who have made such valuable contributions, and to Mike for making it all available to us, THANK YOU ONE AND ALL. JOB WELL DONE. Helen

Thanks JP, there is not a one of us that won't benefit from your hard work and please know that living and dead you are appreiated by ALL of us! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Birth Records Complete! > In a message dated 2/7/2004 8:36:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > He not only typed > them out, but also cross referenced them to other resources to make sure > they were correct and made notes with references when they were not. He put > a ton of time and effort into this. > > WOW! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, JP! Your efforts are much appreciated. > > Cathi > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > >

In a message dated 2/7/2004 8:36:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: He not only typed them out, but also cross referenced them to other resources to make sure they were correct and made notes with references when they were not. He put a ton of time and effort into this. WOW! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, JP! Your efforts are much appreciated. Cathi

There is a postcard on EBAY that was mailed to Frank Housler in 1908 if anyone is interested. It is not mine, I do not know anymore about it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2223959076&category=20226 Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

From Royally Rugged Cameron County Nanny Run named after Billy Nanny who settled there about 1806. It is off the Bennett's Branch along route 555 a few miles out of Driftwood in the Castle Garden area. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Tracy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [PA-CAMERON] Hollows & Runs > I have the papers from Cameron County Press and I ran across a Nanny's Run. > The names are not familiar to me can anyone give me an idea where Nanny's > Run is? Nancy Reed-Tracy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Bloom" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:56 PM > Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Hollows & Runs > > > > According to the American Heritage Talking Dictionary———————————————————— > > > > run (r¾n) > > > > REGIONAL NOTE: Terms for "a small, fast-flowing stream" vary throughout > the eastern United States especially. Speakers in the eastern part of the > Lower North (including Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, and > Pennsylvania) use the word run, as in Bull Run. Speakers in New York State > are liable to call such a stream a kill (a Dutch borrowing). Brook has come > to be used throughout the Northeast. Southerners refer to a branch, and > throughout the northern United States the term is crick, a variant of creek. > > > > ———————————————————— > > > > hol·low (h¼l"½) > > > > Appalachian Mountains. A small valley between mountains > > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > List your surnames in the Queries section of the Site to get the full benefit of what there is to offer. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

I have the papers from Cameron County Press and I ran across a Nanny's Run. The names are not familiar to me can anyone give me an idea where Nanny's Run is? Nancy Reed-Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bloom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:56 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Hollows & Runs > According to the American Heritage Talking Dictionary———————————————————— > > run (r¾n) > > REGIONAL NOTE: Terms for "a small, fast-flowing stream" vary throughout the eastern United States especially. Speakers in the eastern part of the Lower North (including Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, and Pennsylvania) use the word run, as in Bull Run. Speakers in New York State are liable to call such a stream a kill (a Dutch borrowing). Brook has come to be used throughout the Northeast. Southerners refer to a branch, and throughout the northern United States the term is crick, a variant of creek. > > ———————————————————— > > hol·low (h¼l"½) > > Appalachian Mountains. A small valley between mountains > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

J. P. has been super busy while he has been home recuperating! The 1893-1907 Birth Records are complete! J. P. had asked for corrections in spellings that you may know are not correct. Most of the records are spelled the old fashioned way....they way they sound! LOL He not only typed them out, but also cross referenced them to other resources to make sure they were correct and made notes with references when they were not. He put a ton of time and effort into this. Thanks J. P.!!!! Also added a Brief History of Gibson Schools covering from about 1904-1960. Under Townships. Thanks!! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

I added this to the Driftwood page under Gibson Township....thanks Pete! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] 1890 Driftwood > Thought some of you might be interested in this little bit of info: > > "Driftwood Once a bustling > town" > Gleason Tannery Manufactured leather > Crescent Wagon Factory > The Aluminum Factory Made all kind of kitchen Utensils. Closed up in 1918. > Building was later used for a moving picture gallery. > > Other businesses: > Two doctors-Turbett and McAllister > Two Barber Shops S.D McCool and George Lane > One Drug store Mr. Peeler -Owner > One Tailor Shop Mr. Hinsley- Owner > One Meat Market Mr. Geist -Owner > One Jewelry Store Mr. Becken -Owner Later owned by Mr. Redfoot > One Harness Shop- made heavy harnesses for woods work > One Men's Clothing Store- Mr. Rothrock -Owner > One Ladies Store - Mrs. Dutcher -Owner > One Blacksmith Shop Mr. McCloud -- Owner > On Funeral Director Bernard Nefey > One Livery Stable Mr. Morse -Owner > Two Baseball teams . Ball field was on Huntley 's Flat > One Private Bank Brookbank and Rothbank were the bankers. They charged $ .25 > to cash a $5.00 check > Four Lodges- Masonic, I.O.O.F, .P.O.S.of A and Lady Rebekkah > One Opera House Mitchells - Owner > One G.A.R. Building > One weekly Newspaper "The Gazette" John T. Earl owner and editor. Mr Earl > was also the J.P > One Shoemaker Shop -made and repaired Jonas Speckman was owner and also town > constable. > One Borough Jail > Two Churches - Protestant and Catholic > Driftwood had four Hotels - Lafayette - Fred McVickers- owner (Beer's > history states that a GORE built the LaFayette. > Curtin house- Patrick Kane-Owner > Commercial Hotel T. J. Riley ( Fourth Not named here I think it was owned by > the McDonald family) Every hotel had a barn and stable. > J..O. Brookbank leading mercantile of the area .Mr. Brookbank was also > Postmaster > No automobiles transportation was horse and buggy. > No electricity Kerosene lamps and candles furnished the lights > No telephones. > Outside communications were sent by Western Union > One school- taught 10 grades. > Driftwood had a band with about 50 instruments. > Big celebrations were held Decoration Day, July 4th and Labor Day. > Driftwood was the terminus of the Allegheny Valley Railroad .Three passenger > trains ran to Red Bank, Pa on the P.R.R. ,eleven Passenger trains on the > Buffalo and Erie to Philadelphia to New York. And Buffalo and Susquehanna RR > mad stops there. > All told 21 Passenger Trains stops in Driftwood. > Yes Driftwood was a Bustling Town from an article in the Cameron County > Echo written in 1960 by C. J. Miller titled Driftwood as I remember it 70 > years ago. > That would make it 1890. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. > http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero >

That's weird...I emailed this note 5 days ago and it just showed up. Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: [PA-CAMERON] St. James Catholic Church Records > I spoke with the person who has these records and he is willing to loan them > to me as soon as he can find them. (Yeah, I know!) I will let you know when > I do. I will plan on making copies and getting the information online once > we have it. I will let you know when I get them and will do look-ups. Not > sure of a time frame yet. > > > Mike Wennin > Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero > > > > ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to leave PACAMERO-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave PACAMERO-D, do the same thing with [email protected] >

Thought some of you might be interested in this little bit of info: "Driftwood Once a bustling town" Gleason Tannery Manufactured leather Crescent Wagon Factory The Aluminum Factory Made all kind of kitchen Utensils. Closed up in 1918. Building was later used for a moving picture gallery. Other businesses: Two doctors-Turbett and McAllister Two Barber Shops S.D McCool and George Lane One Drug store Mr. Peeler -Owner One Tailor Shop Mr. Hinsley- Owner One Meat Market Mr. Geist -Owner One Jewelry Store Mr. Becken -Owner Later owned by Mr. Redfoot One Harness Shop- made heavy harnesses for woods work One Men's Clothing Store- Mr. Rothrock -Owner One Ladies Store - Mrs. Dutcher -Owner One Blacksmith Shop Mr. McCloud -- Owner On Funeral Director Bernard Nefey One Livery Stable Mr. Morse -Owner Two Baseball teams . Ball field was on Huntley 's Flat One Private Bank Brookbank and Rothbank were the bankers. They charged $ .25 to cash a $5.00 check Four Lodges- Masonic, I.O.O.F, .P.O.S.of A and Lady Rebekkah One Opera House Mitchells - Owner One G.A.R. Building One weekly Newspaper "The Gazette" John T. Earl owner and editor. Mr Earl was also the J.P One Shoemaker Shop -made and repaired Jonas Speckman was owner and also town constable. One Borough Jail Two Churches - Protestant and Catholic Driftwood had four Hotels - Lafayette - Fred McVickers- owner (Beer's history states that a GORE built the LaFayette. Curtin house- Patrick Kane-Owner Commercial Hotel T. J. Riley ( Fourth Not named here I think it was owned by the McDonald family) Every hotel had a barn and stable. J..O. Brookbank leading mercantile of the area .Mr. Brookbank was also Postmaster No automobiles transportation was horse and buggy. No electricity Kerosene lamps and candles furnished the lights No telephones. Outside communications were sent by Western Union One school- taught 10 grades. Driftwood had a band with about 50 instruments. Big celebrations were held Decoration Day, July 4th and Labor Day. Driftwood was the terminus of the Allegheny Valley Railroad .Three passenger trains ran to Red Bank, Pa on the P.R.R. ,eleven Passenger trains on the Buffalo and Erie to Philadelphia to New York. And Buffalo and Susquehanna RR mad stops there. All told 21 Passenger Trains stops in Driftwood. Yes Driftwood was a Bustling Town from an article in the Cameron County Echo written in 1960 by C. J. Miller titled Driftwood as I remember it 70 years ago. That would make it 1890. _________________________________________________________________ Plan your next US getaway to one of the super destinations here. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx

Just a quick note that the meeting was well attended with 20 people. Airing the meeting times on channel 9 brought in 2 new people and I think reminded several others. Dave Reed did a fascinating talk about the available records. I know I learned about a couple sets of records I was not aware of, including annual coroner's reports that go back to the 1880's! I will let you know what is involved with these as they may be death records that we did not know existed. I also got a lead for where the county Civil War Pension records may be. We will publish the details of the available records with the full report of the meeting. Some not so good news is that the St. James Church records that I was looking forward to getting were only the list of graves that we already have online. :( I was under the impression that this person had the church books....oh well. Having a speaker made all the difference. I am open to ideas and suggestions for future speakers!! PLEASE HELP!! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

Hi Helen, A simple explaination might be that a "Hollow" is a hollowed out area that is sunk into a mountain that does or does not have a "Run" of water running down it. Why some are considered "Runs" while some are called "Hollows" I will leave up to you, because I have seen Hollows with runs in them and Runs that run through a Hollow. Just the luck of the draw I would guess. I lived on E 6th Stree Ext. for a while and everyone always said that the were going around the Hollow when they continued up the extension and went aound by the Homestead( think that it is where Bauer Run is, in Plank Road Hollow). Anyway perhaps others may wish to help out on this one. Pete Send ALL mail to: [email protected] Visit my "All American" Home Page at: http://members.fortunecity.com/petee77/ Chat with me I'm "Petee" on Microsoft Messenger From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [PA-CAMERON] Runs and Hollows Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:41:19 EST Question for those of you who know, to inform those of us who may not. Bauer Hollow, Dodge Hollow, Plank Road Hollow Eddy Run, Downey Run, Thayer Run, Towner Run Why was everything called a Hollow or a Run? ==== PACAMERO Mailing List ==== Celebrating Our 4th Year! Come check us out! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero _________________________________________________________________ Get some great ideas here for your sweetheart on Valentine's Day - and beyond. http://special.msn.com/network/celebrateromance.armx

According to the American Heritage Talking Dictionary———————————————————— run (r¾n) REGIONAL NOTE: Terms for "a small, fast-flowing stream" vary throughout the eastern United States especially. Speakers in the eastern part of the Lower North (including Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, and Pennsylvania) use the word run, as in Bull Run. Speakers in New York State are liable to call such a stream a kill (a Dutch borrowing). Brook has come to be used throughout the Northeast. Southerners refer to a branch, and throughout the northern United States the term is crick, a variant of creek. ———————————————————— hol·low (h¼l"½) Appalachian Mountains. A small valley between mountains

For what it's worth, here's my two cents on the subject. I don't know if it's geologically correct, but it is how I grew up understanding it. Helen, I am assuming that you are familiar with the shape of the Appalachian mountain range? It is a fold range, therefore all the mountains are very long and relatively narrow and run in a SW to NE direction. The low places between each 'fold', running parallel to the tops of the mountains are the valleys, but if you stand in a valley and look at the face of the mountains, you see little valleys that are perpendicular to the mountain top cut into the face. These are hollows. In many places, if you walk into these hollows, you can find traces of old farms because this is where many of the old pioneers chose to settle. Why? My guess would be because they were easily defined with definate borders, had water (most of them will have a small stream) and were far enough away from the main creek to keep them out of the floods, but still close enough to provide navigation. Many of these hollows still have the name of the first settler. River (Susquehanna), Branch (East, West, Bennetts, etc), Creek (West, Clear, Pine, etc), Run are all names of waterways, and usually named in size order. Going upstream, the rivers break into branches, the branches into Creeks, and creeks are built by the combination of Runs. Of course, that's just a general rule, because some of the runs can empty straight into the river, but you get the general idea.