You may be able to find additional information at the Blair County Genealogical Society in Hollidaysburg. http://www.bcgslibrary.org/ Good Luck, Don -----Original Message----- From: Baker, Perry L [mailto:Perry.Baker@delta.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:17 PM To: 'Don Callihan'; PACAMBRI@rootsweb.com; michael.mertle@comcast.net; pjohn685@comcast.net; jctripp@charter.net Subject: RE: [PACAMBRI] Riffle research help! Thanks Don. I believe that is the family referenced in the baptismal in my prior message. That Barney/Barnabas/Bernard who was born about 1885 died 8/30/1840. He married his first cousin Margaret/a who was born in 1792 which matches the year of birth in the 1850 census you show below. My records show that she died in 1872 in Bedford county. I'd rather have pure facts and don't like to draw conclusions, but unfortunately the unnamed child in the baptism record may require that. There has been a lot of research on the Riffle families and I was curious why Mary Catherine born about 1811/1812 did not appear in any of the researches records? The reason may well be for the unknown name of that record. The marriage record of Mary Catherine Riffle's son James D. McMullen lists his parents from Blair County (formed from Huntingdon in 1846) bordering Bedford. He also lists his place of birth (as per his Civl War pension records) in the mid 1830s as Huntingdon County which again puts them in the approximate area. The other family of John Riffle (also related - first cousin of Barney) "the Hatter" that relocated to Loretto around 1832 seems to have arrived too late. Also that they had a another daughter Catherine who was almost 22 years younger than Mary Catherine makes that family seem less likely. The pieces are coming together slowly and I really appreciate all the help. Perry -----Original Message----- From: Don Callihan [mailto:callihd@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:47 AM To: Baker, Perry L; PACAMBRI@rootsweb.com; michael.mertle@comcast.net; pjohn685@comcast.net; jctripp@charter.net Subject: RE: [PACAMBRI] Riffle research help! In the 1830 census (the census closest to the approximate time that Hugh & Catherine were married), there was only one location where McMullen & Riffle families were near each other. That location was Napier Township in Bedford County. The families were Barney Riffle and: Wm McMillen St Clair, Bedford, Pennsylvania Charles McMullen Napier, Bedford, Pennsylvania Jaems McMullen Bedford, Bedford, Pennsylvania Saml McMullen Woodbury, Bedford, Pennsylvania Barney Riffle is only shown in the 1830 and 1840 census. In the 1850 census, there is only one person old enough to be related to Catherine and that is 1850 United States Federal Census about Margaret Riffle Name: Margaret Riffle Age: 58 Birth Year: abt 1792 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Home in 1850: Napier, Bedford, Pennsylvania Gender: Female Family Number: 401 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Riffle 58 Elizabeth Riffle 23 Peter Riffle 20 John Riffle 17 Don Callihan Royal Oak, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Baker, Perry L Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:30 PM To: 'PACAMBRI@rootsweb.com'; 'michael.mertle@comcast.net'; 'pjohn685@comcast.net'; 'jctripp@charter.net' Subject: [PACAMBRI] Riffle research help! Hello, I'm researching a Riffle relative and came across a posting from this group from 2012 so I thought I would give you all a shot. I am searching for the parents of Mary Catherine Riffle/Riffel. I'll try to be as concise as possible but also need to give a few details. She is listed in the 1850 census as Catherine McMullen (born abt 1812 in PA) - wife of Hugh McMullen. From researcher Terry Kruise who chronicled the St. Augustine cemetery her date of death is given as 6/15/1883 at 71 years old. Facts: 1) 1850 census Cambria co Cleafield twp PA #3/3 Hugh McMullin 45 farmer Catherine 38 Rosana 20 Martha I. 18 James 16 Lucy 14 Margaret 10 Matthew I. 8 Francis L. 7 Charles V. 5 Mary C. 2 2) Baptismal listings from the Souvenir of Loretto centenary: McMullen Hugh and Mary Catherine Riffel; James, Lucy, Susan, Jane 1835-1839. Here are some potential leads I am following: 1) Riffle (daughter) of Bernard and Margareta Riffle, 5.20.1811, baptism date 10.4.1812, sponsor Jacob Reuter & Barbara Little from "Conewago Chapel" Edge Grove, Adams County, Pennsylvania Baptism Records, 1790-1890 - - I'm not sure if this is Bernard and Margaret Riffle (first cousin) or Baranabas and Margaret Diffendahl - and I'm not sure of the first name of the daughter either so this is a long shot. 2) John Riffel and Jane Mariner/Marriner - There was a John Riffel (1783/4 - 1852 probably the son of George Riffel who was the son of Matthias Riffle). From the Souvenir of Loretto - John Riffle was said to be a hatter who lived in Loretto. His wife was Jane Mariner and they relocated from Northumberland PA near Milton to Cambria Pa around 1832. They had a daughter named Catherine but she was 17 on the 1850 census born 1833 so clearly not my Catherine. However John Sr. would have been 29 in 1812 at the time of Mary Catherine's approximate birth. It's not likely he would have had two daughters named Catherine, but I have not completely ruled out that John Riffel "the hatter" and Jane Marriner had an older daughter that was not listed on the 1850 census that moved with her parents to Loretto. I'd have to track down their marriage and baptismal records from Eastern PA. I'm looking for my best options to determine Mary Catherine's parents. Possibly the marriage records for Hugh and Mary Catherine McMullen and baptismal their children? I have not been able to locate John Riffel seniors "the hatter" will yet. I do have a copy of Margarta Diffendahl's will being sent to me but that's another long shot in the hopes that she might mention a daughter Catherine McMullen. None of the Riffle family trees I have seen list a Catherine Riffle born around 1812. Any help in terms of sources, research approaches of knowledge of the Riffle family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Perry Baker - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message