If anyone has info or suggestions, I'm interested on this as well, as Peter and John Bertram are direct ancestors for me. Marilyn, I think all the information I've ever found on this has been through the info you and others on the list posted onto Rootsweb/online. I've got some obituaries for Bertrams but only as far back as my great-great grandfather Henry Bertram b 15 Aug 1862 d 10 Oct 1931. The first child listed (Anthony) is my great grandfather. (I can share this obit and the other Bertram obits with anyone who may want to look). Henry's parents are listed as Peter and Elizabeth Baker Bertram. (Sorry copy is so bad, this is what the Cambria Lib sent me). Thanks, Patrick > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, marilyn <marilynkwash@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Could anyone help me with this problem. >> >> I believe this Peter Bertram is the son of John Bertram and >> Martina Heim Haid, widow of Valentine Haid. Peter was born about April >> 1840. >> >> Elizabeth was born about July 21, 1842, daughter of William Baker >> and Christina Helfreit. She married Peter Bertram on November 15, 1842 at >> St. Benedict's in Carrolltown. >> >> I came across a second Peter Bertram marrried to an Ellizabeth >> Baker. I think this is a second set of people. Can anyone help me? Can >> anyone go back to grandparents? >> >> Marilyn Kline Washington >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >