Marilyn -- new info: The Preisser who became a priest might have been Fr. Pius Priesser who is mentioned in Fr. Ledox's papers as performing several weddings and baptisms. There is a Fr. Pius Priesser who is listed in Sadliers' Catholic Directory (1872) as being at St. Vincent's Abbey, but for that person to have been John Priesser, he would have to have been 15 years old at the time; not to mention the fact that 8 years later the 1880 census lists a John Priesser still living with his parents at the age of 23. Is there any way to find out the given name, birth or death dates of this Fr. Pius Priesser? In the 1800s, he was at St. Benedict's Parish in Carrolltown. another conundrum is that in Caroline Priesser's 1907 obituary, the list of children doesn't mention John Preisser (or John Ragley for that matter), but does mention a Michael Ragley from Cripple Creek, CO. Bonnie Lou Ragley, a distance cousin, mentioned a Michael Ragley who left home, became a gambler and was never heard from again. Another thing is that in the 1900 census, Caroline is listed as given birth to 9 children with only 6 living. If there was a George Harf, WG Ragley, John Ragley, Michael Ragley, John Priesser, Andrew Priesser, and Joseph Priesser -- that would have made 7, not six children. The deeper I get into this, the more questions I have. thanks for any help you might be able to give, paul pricer (son of John, son of Lewis, son of Joseph, son of Andreas Preusser)   ________________________________ "for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." - Hamlet, Act II Scene 2 ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Knorr-Kline-Duman-Preisser-Kritzer-Lieb of Nicktown       I am also a searcher among these names.I would appreciate anything you could send me.       You omitted one name.  One of the Priessers was married to a Kistler.  This is around the Barr Township area near Nicktown.  St Nicholas Church in Nicktown is where most of the records are filed. I copied out the records, and will look for them.--I just moved and am not unpacked         I have never heard the name "Harf", but Ragleys still live in the Nicktown area.  Ragleys, like the Kirsch and Ager families are "Maytag Men."         The Knorrs-Klines are my family and they are intermarried with the Dumans.  Do you know where the Knorr family originated in Germany?         It is very confusing as there are two Cunengunda Knorr Dumans.  [I have a photo of one of them as an old lady from the Lieb family.}  The name Caroline is also there, but I don't know if it is a translation of Cunegunda or a separate name. The Cunegunda Caroline Duman who married _______Lieb used Caroline.       I just moved, so my records are not yet available.  I copied out all these baptisms, marriages and deaths, and Lisa Kline did the cemetery lists.       One of my Kline g-aunts, Mary,  married a Knorr,  Nicholas, I think, at Nicktown, and had two children baptized there before the family moved to Pittsburgh.  They lived on the South Side and worked in breweries.         There is a Preisser's Crossroads still on the map, in Blacklick Township, and there was a Preisser school.  The name came to spelled Pricer, as it sounded.         One of the Preisser's became a priest at St. Vincent Benedictine Abbey.  I think he was assigned as a parish priest in this area.           Several of the Preisser men were loggers, with steam powered mills they moved from one stand of timber to another.           Somewhere I have some notes from the paper about some Preisser men who went to Texas, and returned for a visit.             A large group of settlers from Nicktown went on a chartered train to settle in Oregon. Barnesboro Star, Thursday 13 April 1933 Obituaries Joseph Pricer     Joseph Pricer,aged 68,a prominent farmer of Barr Township, near Nicktown, died last Friday night at his home, following an illness of several months of a complication of diseases.  He was born in Barr Township and had spent his entire life in that section.     Surviving are his widow, Mrs. Catherine (Kritzer) Pricer, and these children: Harry Pricer, of Oregon; E.J. Pricer of  Portland, Ore; Leo and John Pricer, both at home; Louis Pricer, of Portland, Ore.; Mae Pricer, at home; Mrs. Charles Brophy, of Kittanning; Miss Bernetta Pricer, of Pittsburggh, and Mrs. David McDeathers, of Johnstown.       Funeral services were conducted Monday morning at 9 o'clock in St. Nicholas' Catholic Church.  Interment was in the church cemetery, in charge of J. Edward Stevens, Carrolltown Mortician. Note:  Stevens Funeral home is still in Carrolltown and probably has records you could inquire about. Marilyn Kline Washington -----Original Message----- From: Paul Pricer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:02 am Subject: Knorr i found a thread on ancestry.com but didn't know how to respond, so I'm writing at the address posted. I'm in a quandary here. according to my family, my great grandfather, Andrew Preisser married a Cunegunda "Caroline" Knorr (b. 7 Aug 1820 - d. 8 Jan 1907) in 1857 who had also been married before to a Wolfgang Ragley and a George Harf (who died on the Atlantic crossing). She is buried at the St. Nicholas cemetery in PA. However I have yet to find any actual records for this Harf and Ragley although there is a story of one of Andrew's sons moving to Texas with his half-brother John Ragley. if this information rings a bell or if you have any info that might clear things up, I would greatly appreciate it. thanks paul pricer (son of John L Pricer, son of Lewis A Pricer, son of Joseph Prycer, son of Andrew Preisser and Caroline (Cuneguna) Knorr of Cambria PA "for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." - Hamlet, Act II Scene 2