I have run into the blocked obit problem way before now with other papers. One thing that has helped me is to find out the name of the funeral homes in your area of interest and bookmark their websites as most of the funeral homes I have come across post all their obits right on their website. One of the funeral homes in my area actually allows you to sign up for recent death notices which comes directly to my email inbox. I hope this helps some of you! Happy Searching! Jean Wall

I have run into the blocked obit problem way before now with other papers. One thing that has helped me is to find out the name of the funeral homes in your area of interest and bookmark their websites as most of the funeral homes I have come across post all their obits right on their website. One of the funeral homes in my area actually allows you to sign up for recent death notices which comes directly to my email inbox. I hope this helps some of you! Happy Searching! Jean Wall

http://www.legacy.com/NS/about/newspapers/?sid=49 Shows all the PA papers that the have OBITs of - Hope this helps a little - as to newspapers doing that - NOT any different than ancestry dod when taking over rootsweb and trying to copyright all our list postings .......... ---- Lisa Baker <lisa_18406@msn.com> wrote: Yes, caught that last Friday. You get one free look and then a big block covers the page. I think blocking access to obits is pretty rotten, since families pay a chunk of money to post the obits. My family spent about $400 last fall for my dad's obit, and now people can't even check the obits to see who died. The Mainliner did this several years ago. I'm hoping that that a half dozen other papers I look at don't do this; a couple are blocking access to the stories but still let you see the headlines and obits. Guess those of us who have access will have to share with those that don't. -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john bauman Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13 AM To: Pa Blair List; Pa Cambria List Subject: [PACAMBRI] newspapers Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime. So,here is one search engine that is no more. John Bauman - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To subscribe, unsubscribe or visit the PABLAIR mailing list archives, go to http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/PA/blair.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABLAIR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

or, even on a fast internet internet connection it takes a second or two for the login screen to appear, as it is last, after all the advertisements on the page Go to the obits index page right click the obit you want to see and open it in a new tab in the second or two before the logon screen appears, click the 'x' on the browser to stop the rest of the page from being loaded proceed as you normally do reading, copying and pasting close the tab repeat -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Baker Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 19:25 To: 'john bauman' ; 'Pa Blair List' ; 'Pa Cambria List' Subject: Re: [PABLAIR] [PACAMBRI] Tribune-Democrat blocked Yes, caught that last Friday. You get one free look and then a big block covers the page. I think blocking access to obits is pretty rotten, since families pay a chunk of money to post the obits. My family spent about $400 last fall for my dad's obit, and now people can't even check the obits to see who died. The Mainliner did this several years ago. I'm hoping that that a half dozen other papers I look at don't do this; a couple are blocking access to the stories but still let you see the headlines and obits. Guess those of us who have access will have to share with those that don't. -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john bauman Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13 AM To: Pa Blair List; Pa Cambria List Subject: [PACAMBRI] newspapers Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime. So,here is one search engine that is no more. John Bauman - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To subscribe, unsubscribe or visit the PABLAIR mailing list archives, go to http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/PA/blair.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABLAIR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Go to the obits index page right click the obit you want to see and open it in a new tab after a second the log in screen appears and the rest of the page is grayed out right click anywhere on the page and 'select all' right click and 'copy' open your favorite text editor, right click in a blank area and 'paste' delete the unneeded text before and after the obit close the tab on your browser where the obit appears repeat for next obit -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Baker Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 19:25 To: 'john bauman' ; 'Pa Blair List' ; 'Pa Cambria List' Subject: Re: [PABLAIR] [PACAMBRI] Tribune-Democrat blocked Yes, caught that last Friday. You get one free look and then a big block covers the page. I think blocking access to obits is pretty rotten, since families pay a chunk of money to post the obits. My family spent about $400 last fall for my dad's obit, and now people can't even check the obits to see who died. The Mainliner did this several years ago. I'm hoping that that a half dozen other papers I look at don't do this; a couple are blocking access to the stories but still let you see the headlines and obits. Guess those of us who have access will have to share with those that don't. -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john bauman Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13 AM To: Pa Blair List; Pa Cambria List Subject: [PACAMBRI] newspapers Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime. So,here is one search engine that is no more. John Bauman - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To subscribe, unsubscribe or visit the PABLAIR mailing list archives, go to http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/PA/blair.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABLAIR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear James: I saw your long posting working through Michael McGuire, et al. I am not a descendant, but I sent the following reference to Brenda Wallace some years ago. I ran across this while researching one of my non-Cambria ancestors -- Sgt. Michael Isgrigg (Isgreeg in this reference). Don't know if you already had this or even if it will be helpful for you or not. Maryland Historical Magazine” Maryland Historical Society, Vol. XI, Baltimore, 1916, Page 50. “Journal of the Committee of Observation of the Middle District of Frederick County, Maryland September 12, 1775 -- October 24, 1776: 29 Nov.r 1775. The Committee met according to Adjournment. Rolls of the following Companies of Militia in this district were returned to the Committee, Viz.t: Page 56: Capt. Michael McGuire’s Company: Michael McGuire, Capt Rudolph Bruboi, 1st Lt.; Thomas Rice, 2d. Lt; Lawrence Aubock, Ensign; Michael Isgreeg, Andrew Speelman, Ludowick Miller, George Martin, Sergeants; James Hares, Nicholas Baile, Benj.m Farlme, Martin Hance, Corporals; Alex.r McDonald, Drummer, Conrad Routsong, Fifer and 51 Privates Also, in terms of the 1761 deed between Michael McGuire Sr/wife Patience, isn't Peter McMullen the purchaser? I don't usually see wives names when the husband is 'purchasing' a property. Wives had to be a party to the 'sale' of property because they are giving up their dower rights. But a lot of my research in the colonial era is in Virginia, so it may be a different situation in Maryland. Carol Vass Kent, WA

We have a weekend hard copy subscription and still can't get access. We received and email saying we were subscribed but haven't been able to log in. Emails and phone calls to the TD haven't been returned. So much for the "Friendly City" On 8/7/2013 7:25 PM, Lisa Baker wrote: > Yes, caught that last Friday. You get one free look and then a big block > covers the page. I think blocking access to obits is pretty rotten, since > families pay a chunk of money to post the obits. My family spent about $400 > last fall for my dad's obit, and now people can't even check the obits to > see who died. > > The Mainliner did this several years ago. I'm hoping that that a half dozen > other papers I look at don't do this; a couple are blocking access to the > stories but still let you see the headlines and obits. Guess those of us > who have access will have to share with those that don't. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of john bauman > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13 AM > To: Pa Blair List; Pa Cambria List > Subject: [PACAMBRI] newspapers > > Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a > subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this > for sometime. > > > So,here is one search engine that is no more. > > > > > John Bauman > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, caught that last Friday. You get one free look and then a big block covers the page. I think blocking access to obits is pretty rotten, since families pay a chunk of money to post the obits. My family spent about $400 last fall for my dad's obit, and now people can't even check the obits to see who died. The Mainliner did this several years ago. I'm hoping that that a half dozen other papers I look at don't do this; a couple are blocking access to the stories but still let you see the headlines and obits. Guess those of us who have access will have to share with those that don't. -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john bauman Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:13 AM To: Pa Blair List; Pa Cambria List Subject: [PACAMBRI] newspapers Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime. So,here is one search engine that is no more. John Bauman - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At least for my Kentucky research, the mortuaries list their obits for free and some go back quite a ways.  Maybe they do in PA too. ________________________________ From: "pacambri-request@rootsweb.com" <pacambri-request@rootsweb.com> To: pacambri@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 108 Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime.

>From others: The McMullen Family of Cambria and Huntingdon Counties, PA, p. 15. >From Andrea Storm: "Taken from a deed in Maryland. At the request of Peter McMullen October 20, 1757, to wit-- This indenture made the nineteenth day of October 1761 between Michael McGuire (wife Patience) of Frederick County in the Province of Maryland farmer of the one part and Peter McMullen of York County in Province of Pennsylvania weaver of the other part -- sold 100 acres of land part of the tract of land called "Patience Care" next to the "Long Acres." In case anyone is interested in this: This additional information raises quite a few questions. First, why is there a discrepancy in the dates? From a later deed, mentioned and page 4 above, the date of October 19, 1761, for the sale from Michael McGuire to Peter McMullen is properly noted. But why would the deed be recorded in 1757, before the effective date of the sale? Michael McGuire was Michael McGuire, Sr., father of Captain Michael McGuire, who late led the migration from Frederick County, Maryland to Loretto, Cambria Co., Pennsylvania. Patience Care was named after the wife of the elder Michael, as noted in the deed. he tract was located in Frederick County, Kentucky (sic Maryland), near present day Taneytown. It is interesting to note that no wife is listed for Peter in the deed, and he may then not have been married. This could have been true in 1757, but Peter was probably married in 1761. So why was her name omitted? For dower rights, the names of wives were usually listed. Peter is noted as living in York County, Pennsylvania. This was probably at the Conewago Catholic Settlement, near Hanover in present day Adams County. A Peter McMullen appears in some land maps for the Conewago settlement in the 1770's. In any event, more research is definitely needed. Thanks to Andrea for supplying this information." Capt. Mike. This is his father. Michael McGuire 1695?-1789 Michael McGuire was born about 1695[1]. We have been unable to find immigration records or any indication of his actual birthplace. Wherever he was born we know that Michael was living on the John Lemon farm in Pennsylvania between 1735 and 1737. This farm was located in Adams Co., PA about midway between McSherrystown and Littleton, just west of the Hanover Reservoir. Beginning in 1746, there was a long trial for the murder of John Digges, Jr. The testimonies of this trial are published in both the Maryland[2] and the Pennsylvania archives[3]. According to Chief Justice Allen, Michael McGuire testified in 1752 that '17 years ago he had been working on the John Lemon farm and he had worked there for 2 years when Lemon went away and Kitsmiller came.'[4] In 1735 this farm would have been under the jurisdiction of Lancaster County, PA. A search of the available records for Lancaster did not turn up any information on Michael McGuire. Living on the Lemmon farm must have given Michael opportunity to investigate the surrounding lands. On February 29, 1743 Michael Macquire of Baltimore County, Maryland warranted 100 acres of land called "Patience Care".[5] This land was located in the Pipe Creek area near Taneytown in of present day Carroll County. At the time of the warrant, this land was considered part of Baltimore County. Then in 1749 it became Frederick County and in 1837 this area became Carroll County. Michael had this land surveyed on April 2, 1744[6] and finally patented it on April 28 of the same year.[7] At the present time, there are no records for Michael between 1737 and 1743 when he warranted his first piece of land. Michael was probably married by 1743, because he named his land after his wife Patience Wells. Patience was the daughter of James and Ann Wells of Baltimore County.[8] The Wells land was in present day Baltimore County about 30 miles from the location of McGuire land[9]. The Wells land was about midway between McGuire land and Baltimore. Somehow Michael had to become acquainted with this family in order to meet and marry Patience. The actual marriage date of this couple is unknown; however, an analysis of the church records might give some indication of a time frame for this marriage. Six of the children of James and Ann Wells are listed in the register of St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Church of Baltimore Co., MD.[10] This church was located in Baltimore City. Patience was not listed in the church record along the other children. Neither was her brother Thomas, although his marriage to Elizabeth Howard[11] and the birth of their first son who was born in 1737.[12] It should be noted that it appears that Thomas was the first Wells to participate in this particular church and then his siblings followed him there. The Wells children are listed on page 28 of the first register of St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Parish.[13] The dates of the entries for page 27 range from March 1734 to April 1737. The exception is when families with more than one child are listed. In the one family on this page the first child is listed as September 1729 and the next child as July 1735. On page 28 the dates range from January 1736 to December 1737 with the exception of the multi-child family that is the Wells family. These births range from 1716 to 1729. It should also be noted that the children are out of order in this list. Honor, who was born is 1724 is actually listed after Alexander [1727] and Ann [1729]. On page 29 the dates range from March 1736 to November 1737 with two multi-children families whose dates range from 1733-1736 and 1735 to 1737. The careful study of these pages show that the register births were not recorded when they occurred but rather were recorded when the actual baptisms occurred. There is one entry that might help establish when the actual baptism took place. "Mayberry born August 12, 1735, baptized April 20, 1738 son of Mayberry and Anne Helms."[14] It would appear that the baptisms on these pages were performed late in 1737 or early in 1738. It would also appear that only the children of James and Ann remaining at home were baptized and they were at least teenagers by this time. We might conclude that Patience is out of the house by late 1737 and probably married to Michael McGuire. Her marriage does not show in the St. Paul's records. Perhaps this is because she married a Catholic. We know Michael was Catholic because he was referred to as a 'papist' in some of the rent rolls.[15] We shall conclude that Patience and Michael married sometime between 1737 when she was not joining her siblings in being baptized in the Episcopal Church and 1743 when Michael named his land for her. Except for the rent rolls, we now experience another gap in official records for Michael between the patent on his 100 acres in 1745 and recording of a mark of cattle and hogs in 1753.[16] Michael must have had at least some animals on his farm. On September 7, 1754 Michael got a survey on original 100 and also 785 acres.[17] It was noted on this survey that only ½ acres of land was cleared. Michael had owned this land for eleven years, but yet had only cleared ½ acre. Why? Were his children too young to help and he too poor to hire anyone? Since he did not register his mark until 1753, maybe he was too poor to even have cattle! Michael got the patent for this land on November 27, 1754.[18] Included at the end of the survey was a statement by Henrietta Maria Dulany stating that she had received payment of 39 pounds five shillings from Michael for 785 acres being part of a warrant granted to her on October 15, 1754. This statement was made on November 28, 1754. Michael seems to have at least partially financed this transaction by selling 20 acres of 'Patients Care' to John Logsdon on November 20, 1754.[19] The rest of the money seems to have come from Basil Dorsey of Anne Arundel Co., MD.[20] By March 10, 1761 finances were getting better because John Logsdon sold the same land back to Michael.[21] Also Dorsey released "Resurvey of Patience Care" on March 27, 1761.[22] This release does not name the amount of money Michael had mortgaged the land for nor how much Michael paid to have it released. About this time we need to be careful about which Michael McGuire is being referred to in the records. We know from a deed in 1761[23] that Michael and Patience had a son Michael. This is the first time this Michael shows in the records with clarity. Some records from this time on are clear referring to Michael Sr. or Michael Jr. or linking Michael and Patience or referring to Michael Sr. as a papist. Michael Jr. was literate and so his deeds bear a signature while Michael Sr.'s only bear a mark. However, some of the records have no such indications and it is sometimes hard to distinguish between the two Michaels. There actually appears to be another Michael McGuire living in Baltimore Co. at this time.[24] In 1758 Michael McGuire and Richard Wells of Frederick Co., MD are sureties on the William Holmes estate. Honor Holmes was executrix.[25] Honor Holmes was the sister of Patience Wells. This seems to be Michael Sr. who would be the brother-in-law of William Holmes as was Richard Wells, Patience's brother. The debt books and the deeds of Baltimore and Frederick Co., MD help us in following Michael and his land transactions. We must remember that the debt books were like tax lists. Sometimes, they are referred to as rent rolls. Everyone who owned land in Maryland had to pay a rent or tax to the governor for the privilege of living on the land. Beginning in 1754 Michael was taxed for his share of 'Patience Care'.[26] This first tax was for 100 acres. By 1756 he is being taxed for 885 acres on 'Resurvey of Patience Care.' After 1761, a year in which he seems to have straightened out his finances, Michael begins to sell of much of the land he owned. 331 acres went to Joseph Dyer[27], 92 acres went to son, John[28]. This land was later returned to Michael by John in 1766[29]. Fifty two acres went to Michael[30], their son and 100 acres went to Peter McMullen of York, PA[31]. In 1767 Michael Sr. sells another 46 acres to Michael Jr.[32] In 1774 Michael sells two tracts of land to Thomas and James McGuire. These deeds do not indicate if these boys are sons or not. Thomas received 190 acres[33] and James received 159 acres[34]. These two tracts were adjoining each other. Finally, Michael sells the rest of his land to Peter Erb in 1788.[35] Michael sells the land on which 'he now lives' so Erb sells it back to Thomas Durbin who returns it to Erb after the death of Michael.[36] Thomas Bond Durbin was the administrator of Michael McGuire's estate in 1794.[37] The children of Michael McGuire and Patience Wells were: John (?-1801) Michael (?-1793) Thomas (1749-?) James (1749-1819) Patience (1751-1823) married Philip White. Nicholas (1753-1813) Susan (?-?) married John Welsh. Ruth (1760-1843) married Nicholas Trucks. Peter (1763-1850) Mary (1766-1829) [1]Frederick County, Maryland Judgments, Part I, 1758, pg. 174. In this petition Michael explains that he is sixty odd years old and has a large, young family. He further states that they have just experienced extensive illness and he was not able to pay his taxes. [2] Maryland Archives, Volume 28, pgs., 539ff. Currently online at www.mdarchives.state.md.us [3] Colonial Records of Pennsylvania, Minutes of Provincial Council of Pennsylvania. Harrisburg, PA: Theo. Penn & Co. Vol. 5. pg. 582-597. [4] McPherson, Edward. The Murder of Dudley Digges : 1752. Gettysburg: Times and News Publishing Company, 1941. pg. 42. [5] Maryland Land Patents LG #3 pg. 231 and PT #2 pg. 84, Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. [6] Maryland Land Office, Surveys Frederick County, Maryland #3742, Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. [7] Maryland Land Patents LG #3 pg. 231 and PT #2 pg. 84, Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. [8] Baltimore County, Maryland Register of Wills and Inventories Book 9 pg. 391, Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. On November 14 , 1771 Patience Maguire and Thomas Wells are named as next of kin on estate of James Wells. [9] Maryland State Land Office, Liber P.L. No. 6, Folio 288-289. [10] St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Parish, Baltimore City. Register I 1710-1788. Maryland Historical Society, Manuscript Division. Reamy, Bill and Martha. Records of St. Paul's Parish. Family Line Publications, Westminster, MD, 1988. [11] St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Parish, Baltimore City. Register I 1710-1788. Maryland Historical Society, Manuscript Division. Reamy, Bill and Martha. Records of St. Paul's Parish. Family Line Publications, Westminster, MD, 1988. pg. 33. [12] St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Parish, Baltimore City. Register I 1710-1788. Maryland Historical Society, Manuscript Division. Reamy, Bill and Martha. Records of St. Paul's Parish. Family Line Publications, Westminster, MD, 1988. pg. 12. [13] St. Paul's Protestant Episcopal Parish, Baltimore City. Register I 1710-1788. Maryland Historical Society, Manuscript Division. [14] Reamy, St. Paul's Parish Registers [15] Frederick Co., MD Debt books 1754-1773. Maryland Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD. [16] Frederick County , MD Land Records Liber E-251. [17] Maryland Land Records Surveys Frederick Co. #3806. [18] Maryland Land patents BC&GS #1 pg. 374 and BC&GS #2 pg. 100. [19] Frederick Co., MD Land Records Liber E-589-590. [20] Frederick Co., MD Land Records Liber F-1286-1287. [21] Frederick Co., MD Land Records Liber F-1259-1260. [22] Frederick Co., MD Land Records Liber F-1286-1287. [23] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber G- 223-224) [24] Baltimore County, MD Land Records, Liber B. No. I 1760. [25] Frederick Co., MD Testamentary Proceedings, Provincial Court Liber 37 pg. 167 [26] 1754-1769 Michael McGuire is taxed in the Debt Books of Baltimore Co., MD for 100a of 'Patience Care'. 1756, 1759-1761 Michael McGuire taxed in the Debt Books of Frederick Co., MD for 885 a of 'Resurvey of Patience Care' 1762 Michael McGuire, papist taxed in the Debt Book of Frederick Co., MD for 534a of 'Resurvey of Patience Care' 1763 Michael McGuire, papist taxed in the Debt Book of Frederick Co., MD for 290 a of 'Resurvey of Patience Care' 1766 Michael McGuire taxed in the Debt Book of Frederick Co., MD for 290a of 'Patience Care' and 162 a of 'Resurvey of Patience Care' 1768 Michael McGuire taxed in the Debt Book of Frederick Co., MD for 244a of 'Patience Care' 1769-1773 Michael McGuire taxed in the Debt Book of Frederick Co., MD for 336a of 'Patience Care' [27] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber F 1291-1293 [28] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber G- 197-198 [29] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber K- 747-749 [30] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber G- 223-224 [31] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber G-225-226 [32] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber K-1149-1150 [33] Frederick Co., MD land records V pg. 267 [34] Frederick Co., MD land records V pg. 253 [35] Frederick Co., MD land records WR 8, p. 212 [36] Frederick Co., MD land records WR12 pg. 501 [37] Frederick Co., MD Inventories 1786-1802 pg. 308 [38] Frederick Co., MD Land Records Liber G- 197-198/Jefferson Co., OH will book 1 pg. 7 written Feb. 6, 1801. [39] Frederick Co. , MD Land Records Liber G- 223-224/Family Bible of Michael McGuire of Cambria Co., PA 1766-1882 (Nov. 1748) copies and transcriptions in possession of Brenda Wallace of Beaver Falls, PA 2007. [40] Old family chart [about 1860-1880] passed down in the James and Ruth Brown McGuire family of WV says Thomas was the twin of James. NOTE: This family's researchers had no contact with Cambria researchers until long after the chart had been made. /DNA research has linked the descendents of Thomas of TN to Michael of MD. [41] Richland Co., OH, common Pleas Court Records 1823-1833 quoted in Gateway to the West Vol. II. [42] Souvenir of Loretto Centenary, Kittell, 1899, Swope Bros., Cresson, PA: says in cemetery list: White, Patience (McGuire) b. 1751 d.7/27/1823 [43] Kladder Cemetery, Blair Co., PA/Estate records in Blair Co., PA/Nicholas is named by Peter as his brother in an affidavit that Peter McGuire sworn on behalf of Richard Nagle in 1827 in Cambria Co., PA. Richard Nagle pension records. [44] Article quoting Father Tuigg, pastor of St. John's, recorded in American Catholic Historical Society, RECORDS, 1915. Father Tuigg says he received the story of Prince Gallitzin's arrival at Cambria from Mrs. John Burgoon's dau. who married Jacob Sherry. [this must be Elizabeth who married Nicholas Cherry]. He states that John Welsh who married Capt.Michael McGuire's sister went to Baltimore to get a priest in 1795 because Mrs. Burgoon was dying and wanted to convert to the Catholic faith. This is also family tradition. I have been unable to find anything concrete on this connection. [45] Tombstone and obit in Davenport Gazette, Scott Co.,IA/ Internet records on Scott Co., IA site, Davenport Gazette, March 16, 1843. [46] Mountain Sentinel Ebensburg, PA Thursday, 31 Jan 1850 giving age as 87 years./ 1793 February 4 Thomas Bond Durbin's accounting on estate of Michael McGuire, Sen. Peter McGuire and Mary McGuire listed as nearest of Heirs and Greatest Creditors. [Frederick Co., MD Inventories 1786-1802 pg. 308] [47] 1793 February 4 Thomas Bond Durbin's accounting on estate of Michael McGuire, Sen. Peter McGuire and Mary McGuire listed as nearest of Heirs and Greatest Creditors. [Frederick Co., MD Inventories 1786-1802 pg. 308] From: Brenda Wallace, 10/29/2007 Here's some additional information on Dyers Mill Forest and the possible origin of the name Timble: >From the book, Settlers of Maryland 1679-1783 by Peter Wilson Coldham page 205: Joseph Dyer of Frederick County Name of Tract: Dyers Mill Forest Acreage: 1,168 Date: 30 May 1763 Reference: BC18/525; BC19/570 And from a book entitled German Names: Dimpfl, Dimpel, Dimperl (Bav.): living by the (swampy) pond (MHG tumpfel) Dimpfel is also a place name in Bav. **Also Timpfler and Timpler From: Katie Rennie, 02/24/2009 Name Dyer, Joseph 1763 Tract Dyers Mill Forrest County Frederick Certificate 1168 Acres Liber BC&GS #19 Folio 570 " " " " " " " " " Patent 1168 Acres " Liber BC&GS #18 " 525 Frederick county court records Records that involve Joseph Dyer Liber, folio, date, names F 1291 March 30 1760 Joseph Dyer from Michael Maguire K 550 June 17, 1766 Joseph Dyer to Peter Erb Jr. K 580 June 18, 1766 Joseph Dyer to Ulrich Hoopstaller M 108 Mch 27, 1769 Joseph Dyer to John Lamon et al M 139 Mch 27, 1769 Joseph Dyer to Patrick Boork P 485 Nov 23 1772 Joseph Dyer to Rudy Brueback T 176 Aug 23 1773 Joseph Dyer to Daniel Brown T 330 Aug 23, 1773 Joseph Dyer to Christopher Erb T 358 Aug 23, 1773 Joseph Dyer to Peter Erb According to the land deed from Frederick County MD (T 358 Aug 23, 1773 Joseph Dyer to Peter Erb), Peter Erb, Jr bought 50 acres of Dyers Mill Forest from Joseph Dyer for 25 pounds. The following is transcribed by me from the 17 June, 1766 transaction between Joseph Dyer and Peter Erb, Jr. (this is only the opening lines of the deed) "At the request of Peter Erb the following Deed was Recorded 17 June 1766 to wit This Indenture made the Seventeenth day of June In the year of our Lord one thousand Seven Hundred and Sixty Six Between Joseph Dyer of Frederick County in the Province of Maryland Saw Millor of the one part and Peter Erb Junior of the said County and Province of the other part".............(Summary of deed, Peter Erb Jr. bought 97 acres of Dyers Mill Forest from Joseph Dyer for 30 pounds, also examined was Joanna the wife of Joseph Dyer.) From: Daniel Parrish, 02/25/2009 Listed in: Settlers of Maryland 1679-1783 by Peter Wilson Coldham, Consolidated Edition: p. 205: Dyer, Joseph: Fdk: Dyer's Mill Forest: 1168: 30 May 1763: BC18/525; BC 19/570 From: Katie Rennie, 02/2009 Dyers Mill Forrest, 115 3/4th Acres in Frederick Co. MD. Sold to Peter Erb for $1, 940.00, payment made by Erb but deed not executed. Order to execute was made 10/29/1818. Also of sequential note is this about a later ownership: From: "Brenda Wallace" <wallace@ccia.com> Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:26 A. M. Subject: Thomas and Mary Stevenson McGuire early 1800s I finally got a document which throws some light on this couple. Chancery Court, Maryland--Available at MD archives NSA S512 Location 1/36/1 Christopher Erb and Charles Engel vs. Thomas McGuire of Frederick Co., MD 1799: This case is about land Thomas sold to Erb and Engel in 1785. They never received their clear deed. In 1799 they petition the court for a title to the land because Thomas has removed to VA. In the case we find that Thomas owned part of 'Resurvey of Patience Care', part of 'Ohio', and part of Resurvey of Locust Neck'. Thomas bought the first two pieces from Michael McGuire Sr. in 1774 and the third piece from Thomas Durbin Sr in 1779. The papers also included Thomas's wife as Molly. I believe this helps in identifying Thomas as the same man owning all three pieces of land. It also connects Molly, a nickname for Mary, to Thomas. It also tells us that Thomas left MD before 1799. So, Thomas is most probably the son of Michael McGuire Sr. and married Mary Stevenson in 1779. From: Brenda Wallace, 10/26/2004. FREDERICK CO., MARYLAND EQUITY LIBER JS-1 FOLIO 290-295 DATED 14 MARCH 1818. PETER ERB OF CHRISTOPHER VERSUS JOSHUA PARRISH (PARISH) (MARRIED TO BARBARY TIMBLE) AND OTHERS. GEORGE TIMBLE DECEASED WIDOW OF SOPHIA AND CHILDREN: BARBARY WIFE OF JOSHUA PARRISH NOW OF CAMBRIA CO., PA. ELIZABETH WIFE OF PETER YINGLING, NOW OF BEDFORD CO., PA AND MARY TIMBLE HERE OF FREDERICK CO. PETER ERB PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM THE ABOVE CHILDREN OF GEORGE TIMBLE TENANTS IN COMMON, A LAND TRACT KNOWN AS "DYERS MILL FORREST", BEING 115 1/2 ACRES IN FREDERICK CITY FOR $1,940.00 PAYMENT MADE BUT DEED NOT YET EXECUTED, ORDER MADE FOR DEED OCT 29, 1818. Property: Silver Run, Maryland off Rte 97. James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855 jtr@atlanticbb.net Better We Should Err In Action Than Wholly Refuse To Perform Fixin is often done by listening. See with your ears and hear with your eyes, heal with your heart and empathy. Blind people do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Parrishoners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to parrishoners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to parrishoners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/parrishoners. 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Well,the newspaper in Johnstown has now blocked the the obit's.If you are a subscriber,no problem.The newspapers here in York,Pa have been doing this for sometime. So,here is one search engine that is no more. John Bauman

Fellow Researchers, Does anyone have information (parents, siblings, etc) on a Daniel and Margaret McGonigle who were married (I believe) or had a child baptized by Father Galitizinsome time in the 1810's -1830's? I have a Charles McGonigle buried by Father Galitiznaround April 1, 1831 but I am unable to get more infoon Daniel to see if he is related to Daniel. Robert McGonigleColumbus, OH

1880 census Cambria co Dean twp PA #3/3 Joseph Trexler 64 Susan 62 Martena 25 daughter Mary 7 gdaughter Jennie 3 “ Matilda Baker 30 daughter Ann 4 gdaughter blank 2/12 “ 1880 census Somerset co PA S. D. Baker 33 Matilda B. 30 (Rhodes) Irvin A. 10 Maggie L. 8 Frank L. 4 *the reason I have this, is because they had her as Trexler buried in Sipesville Somerset co PA they have parents as Joseph Trexler and Susan Krise, but children are wrong. working on finding death dates for John Baker and Matilda Trexler plus daughter cambria co marriage index both living in Frugality m. 17 Nov 1898 SHUMAC, Charles Howard s/o Thomas and Ellen Shumac & BAKER, Annie Marie d/o John and Matilda found? Anna Shumac 1881-1943 son Harry 1901-1948 on same stone in Calvary cemetery in Pittsburgh no Charles listed there? 1900 census Cambria co Reade twp PA #44/44 Charles Shumac May 1878 m1y Annie May 1878 " had 1/1 child living Charles T. May 1899 son James Jul 1880 brother Sarah Fletcher Jun 1891 sister 1910 census Cambria co Reade twp PA #282/294 Charles Shumac 32 m12y Annie 32 “ had 7/3 children living Harry 8 Edna 7 Earl 4 1920 census Allegheny co Pittsburgh PA #110/144 Charles Shumac 42 Annie 42 Harry 18 Edna 17 Earl 14 Almeda 10 Clemitine 8 now is anyone able to get Matilda Baker obit Johnstown Tribune 18 Jan 1923? or any other help with their dates? Elaine

I have John Kruise married to Josephine Kline ----- Original Message ----- From: <pacambri-request@rootsweb.com> To: <pacambri@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:00 AM Subject: PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Saint Boniface (James Thomas Rosenbaum) > 2. Re: Viola Weakland and William Kruise (James Thomas Rosenbaum) > 3. Re: Saint Boniface (marilyn) > 4. Re: Fw: kkkjjjk (CAGlasser@aol.com) > 5. Re: Fw: kkkjjjk (CAGlasser@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 04:26:05 -0400 > From: "James Thomas Rosenbaum" <jtr@atlanticbb.net> > Subject: [PACAMBRI] Saint Boniface > To: "Message Cambria" <pacambri@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AFDFD3CC6AAB428A993E5831EC91A2D2@NEWPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The town of Saint Boniface, Cambria Co., PA. First of all Wikipedia does > not seem to list it. Has anyone submitted anything to them? Also I have it > listed as being in Elder Township. Do they have a centennial book or some > thing similar? The zip is 16675. > Does it have a history someplace listed? > jim > > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > jtr@atlanticbb.net > Better We Should Err In Action Than Wholly Refuse To Perform > Fixing is often done by listening. See with your ears and hear with your > eyes, > heal with your heart and empathy. Blind people do it. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 04:47:10 -0400 > From: "James Thomas Rosenbaum" <jtr@atlanticbb.net> > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Viola Weakland and William Kruise > To: "JCTripp" <jctripp@charter.net>, "PA List" <pacambri@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <871D3B5D5D2646C1BD08FBD8F571F62F@NEWPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Has anyone figured out who William Kruise's parents are m. to Viola > Weakland? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:54:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: marilyn <marilynkwash@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Saint Boniface > To: jtr@atlanticbb.net, pacambri@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D05F6391494748-1748-25A1C@Webmail-d107.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > If I made any errors, please let me know. > > There is a brief history of St. Boniface on this site, in the part with > the cemeteries, I think. They are St. Bernard's and Union Cemetery, a > merger of the original Swedish Lutheran and then the Methodist Episcopal. > > 1790 Census the area was Frankstown Township of Huntingdon County. > 1800 Census--Same Frankstown > > 1804--The area became part of the new Cambria County. > 1807--The area became part of Cambria Township, and the courts took over > in 1807. {Only three townships, Cambria [west and north], Allegheny[east > with some north and south] and one in the South [sorry, can't remember the > name, StonyCreek I think.] > > 1810--St. Boniface was in Susquehanna Township [all the northern area > except White] > 1820--Same for St Boniface. > 1830--Same > 1840--Same > 1850--Same > 1860--Chest--included present Elder and Chest, with Chest Creek in the > middle. > 1870--I think that year it became Elder, consisting of half of the > previous Chest, divided by the Chest Creek and the Railroad. > 1880 to present--Elder Township > > I know of two short histories published by the church for anniversaries > and a few in the newspapers I saved. > > St. Boniface doesn't have a post office anymore, just a place [outdoors > with a roof] that contains the post office boxes where people pick up > their mail. > > Very early the post office was at Plattsville, as the mail came from the > Susquehanna River down Ridge Road. Then the Post Office was Summitville > [Summit in Cresson] or Munster, along the Turnpike from Hollidaysburg to > Pittsburgh [present Rt 22 or 422.]. It was carried on the stage coach. It > was then carried by [usually] unofficial means to the churches in the > settlements where it was distributed on Sunday. > > Next the mail came to the coal towns on the railroads. Every coal town > had to have a railroad to carry coal, and usually the railroad carried > passengers and mail. St. Boniface was at the top of the hill, so mail > came to Thomas Mills [formerly Elder's Mill] where the railroad stopped, > or in Hastings [after 1889.] > > Fr. Modestus Wertner published two books about the local churches/towns > and one book, The Missions, includes a history for St. Boniface. It is > on this site as the History of the Benedictine Parishes in Cambria County, > which is reprinted here on the site. This ST. Boniface history was > written about 1930. > > Just before WW I, a German group in Johnstown published a book on the > history of Cambria County, with emphasis on the German influence. One > side of the page in printed in German, the other side in English. It > includes a history of St. Boniface and one of New Germany, as well > Gallitzin [a lot of German organizations, second only to Johnstown.] The > Cambria County Historical Society has a copy. > > Marilyn Kline Washington > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Thomas Rosenbaum <jtr@atlanticbb.net> > To: Message Cambria <pacambri@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 4:36 am > Subject: [PACAMBRI] Saint Boniface > > > The town of Saint Boniface, Cambria Co., PA. First of all Wikipedia does > not > seem to list it. Has anyone submitted anything to them? Also I have it > listed as > being in Elder Township. Do they have a centennial book or some thing > similar? > The zip is 16675. > Does it have a history someplace listed? > jim > > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > jtr@atlanticbb.net > Better We Should Err In Action Than Wholly Refuse To Perform > Fixing is often done by listening. See with your ears and hear with your > eyes, > heal with your heart and empathy. Blind people do it. > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 11:21:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: CAGlasser@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Fw: kkkjjjk > To: jtr@atlanticbb.net, pacambri@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <10c356.6b56cc31.3f2fcb76@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thanks for the obit. > > Who were the parents of Betty Natcher, married to Robert Wasser? > > Thanks, > Chuck Glasser > > > > In a message dated 8/3/2013 12:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jtr@atlanticbb.net writes: > > In case anyone missed this one: > Charles C. Natcher > January 21, 1930 - July 31, 2013 > > > NATCHER, CHARLES C., ?Charlie?, 83, Ebensburg, passed away July 31, 2013, > at Memorial Medical Center, Johnstown, surrounded by family and friends. > Born January 21, 1930, in Barr Twp., the son of Henry and Marie > (Shilling) > Natcher. Preceded in death by parents and son Joseph. Survived by > children, > John Natcher (Cheryl Groove), Ebensburg; Henry Natcher (Barb Griffith), > Blairsville; Marlene, wife of Randy Lauer, Ebensburg and Charlene > Natcher, > Harrisburg; grandchildren, Joseph, Laura, Bonnie, Angie and Monica > Natcher, > Thomas Lauer and Shaun Henson. Brother of Helen (Thomas) Morris, > Ebensburg; > Olean (Lloyd) Bishop, Northern Cambria; Verla (Marinus) Nelen, Tripoli; > Betty (Robert) Wasser, Strongstown; Jean (Ron) Bopp, Marie (Don) Williams > and > Dorothy (Charles) Arotin, all of Ebensburg. Also survived by numerous > nieces > and nephews. Retired from C&I Railroad. Member of St. Nicholas Catholic > Church. He enjoyed farming and repairing cars for friends and family. He > enjoyed spending time with his special pet ?Queenie?, watching wrestling > with > close friends and playing the lottery. He greatly appreciated the > excellent > care he received from the staff of DCI Dialysis of Hastings. Friends will > be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., > Northern Cambria. Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday > at > St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Fr. Michael Gabler, OSB. Committal, St. > Nicholas Cemetery. > > Visitation > > Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral > Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. > > > Services > > Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas > Catholic Church. > > > Interment > > Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > jtr@atlanticbb.net > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:37:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: CAGlasser@aol.com > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Fw: kkkjjjk > To: jtr@atlanticbb.net, pacambri@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <10d51b.44417dce.3f2fdd3f@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Never mind my dumb question - I misread the obit. > > Chuck > > > > In a message dated 8/3/2013 12:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jtr@atlanticbb.net writes: > > In case anyone missed this one: > Charles C. Natcher > January 21, 1930 - July 31, 2013 > > > NATCHER, CHARLES C., ?Charlie?, 83, Ebensburg, passed away July 31, 2013, > at Memorial Medical Center, Johnstown, surrounded by family and friends. > Born January 21, 1930, in Barr Twp., the son of Henry and Marie > (Shilling) > Natcher. Preceded in death by parents and son Joseph. Survived by > children, > John Natcher (Cheryl Groove), Ebensburg; Henry Natcher (Barb Griffith), > Blairsville; Marlene, wife of Randy Lauer, Ebensburg and Charlene > Natcher, > Harrisburg; grandchildren, Joseph, Laura, Bonnie, Angie and Monica > Natcher, > Thomas Lauer and Shaun Henson. Brother of Helen (Thomas) Morris, > Ebensburg; > Olean (Lloyd) Bishop, Northern Cambria; Verla (Marinus) Nelen, Tripoli; > Betty (Robert) Wasser, Strongstown; Jean (Ron) Bopp, Marie (Don) Williams > and > Dorothy (Charles) Arotin, all of Ebensburg. Also survived by numerous > nieces > and nephews. Retired from C&I Railroad. Member of St. Nicholas Catholic > Church. He enjoyed farming and repairing cars for friends and family. He > enjoyed spending time with his special pet ?Queenie?, watching wrestling > with > close friends and playing the lottery. He greatly appreciated the > excellent > care he received from the staff of DCI Dialysis of Hastings. Friends will > be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., > Northern Cambria. Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday > at > St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Fr. Michael Gabler, OSB. Committal, St. > Nicholas Cemetery. > > Visitation > > Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral > Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. > > > Services > > Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas > Catholic Church. > > > Interment > > Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > jtr@atlanticbb.net > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PACAMBRI list administrator, send an email to > PACAMBRI-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PACAMBRI mailing list, send an email to > PACAMBRI@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 8, Issue 105 > **************************************** > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3209/6552 - Release Date: 08/05/13 >

Thanks Mary. That is what I have. Beth -------Original Message------- From: Mary Hoffherr Date: 08/05/13 07:23:38 To: 'marilyn'; joraley@verizon.net; pacambri@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Viola Weakland and William Kruise Philomena Kruise married George E. Weakland (brother to Viola) -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marilyn Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:44 PM To: joraley@verizon.net; pacambri@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACAMBRI] Viola Weakland and William Kruise Union Press Courier Nov 3, 1960 Viola Kruise of Patton RD died at age 55 last Thursday at the Spangler Hospital. She was born in St. Boniface Aug 5, 1905, the daughter of Embry and Mary [Thomas] Weakland. She married William Kruise and they had one child, Mrs. Richard [Shrirley] Kutruff of Flinton. Funeral mass and burial at St. Lawrence. You asked about this at one point. I am pretty sure his parents were Martha Endler and Lawrence Kruise. Her brother married his sister, but I can't remember the names. Marilyn Kline Washington - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Philomena Kruise married George E. Weakland (brother to Viola) -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marilyn Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:44 PM To: joraley@verizon.net; pacambri@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACAMBRI] Viola Weakland and William Kruise Union Press Courier Nov 3, 1960 Viola Kruise of Patton RD died at age 55 last Thursday at the Spangler Hospital. She was born in St. Boniface Aug 5, 1905, the daughter of Embry and Mary [Thomas] Weakland. She married William Kruise and they had one child, Mrs. Richard [Shrirley] Kutruff of Flinton. Funeral mass and burial at St. Lawrence. You asked about this at one point. I am pretty sure his parents were Martha Endler and Lawrence Kruise. Her brother married his sister, but I can't remember the names. Marilyn Kline Washington - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Kruise, 1872-1955 Josephine Klein, 1877-1956 Buried: St Lawrence Cemetery -----Original Message----- From: pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacambri-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Thomas Rosenbaum Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 4:47 AM To: JCTripp; PA List Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Viola Weakland and William Kruise Has anyone figured out who William Kruise's parents are m. to Viola Weakland? - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I made any errors, please let me know. There is a brief history of St. Boniface on this site, in the part with the cemeteries, I think. They are St. Bernard's and Union Cemetery, a merger of the original Swedish Lutheran and then the Methodist Episcopal. 1790 Census the area was Frankstown Township of Huntingdon County. 1800 Census--Same Frankstown 1804--The area became part of the new Cambria County. 1807--The area became part of Cambria Township, and the courts took over in 1807. {Only three townships, Cambria [west and north], Allegheny[east with some north and south] and one in the South [sorry, can't remember the name, StonyCreek I think.] 1810--St. Boniface was in Susquehanna Township [all the northern area except White] 1820--Same for St Boniface. 1830--Same 1840--Same 1850--Same 1860--Chest--included present Elder and Chest, with Chest Creek in the middle. 1870--I think that year it became Elder, consisting of half of the previous Chest, divided by the Chest Creek and the Railroad. 1880 to present--Elder Township I know of two short histories published by the church for anniversaries and a few in the newspapers I saved. St. Boniface doesn't have a post office anymore, just a place [outdoors with a roof] that contains the post office boxes where people pick up their mail. Very early the post office was at Plattsville, as the mail came from the Susquehanna River down Ridge Road. Then the Post Office was Summitville [Summit in Cresson] or Munster, along the Turnpike from Hollidaysburg to Pittsburgh [present Rt 22 or 422.]. It was carried on the stage coach. It was then carried by [usually] unofficial means to the churches in the settlements where it was distributed on Sunday. Next the mail came to the coal towns on the railroads. Every coal town had to have a railroad to carry coal, and usually the railroad carried passengers and mail. St. Boniface was at the top of the hill, so mail came to Thomas Mills [formerly Elder's Mill] where the railroad stopped, or in Hastings [after 1889.] Fr. Modestus Wertner published two books about the local churches/towns and one book, The Missions, includes a history for St. Boniface. It is on this site as the History of the Benedictine Parishes in Cambria County, which is reprinted here on the site. This ST. Boniface history was written about 1930. Just before WW I, a German group in Johnstown published a book on the history of Cambria County, with emphasis on the German influence. One side of the page in printed in German, the other side in English. It includes a history of St. Boniface and one of New Germany, as well Gallitzin [a lot of German organizations, second only to Johnstown.] The Cambria County Historical Society has a copy. Marilyn Kline Washington -----Original Message----- From: James Thomas Rosenbaum <jtr@atlanticbb.net> To: Message Cambria <pacambri@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 4:36 am Subject: [PACAMBRI] Saint Boniface The town of Saint Boniface, Cambria Co., PA. First of all Wikipedia does not seem to list it. Has anyone submitted anything to them? Also I have it listed as being in Elder Township. Do they have a centennial book or some thing similar? The zip is 16675. Does it have a history someplace listed? jim James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855 jtr@atlanticbb.net Better We Should Err In Action Than Wholly Refuse To Perform Fixing is often done by listening. See with your ears and hear with your eyes, heal with your heart and empathy. Blind people do it. - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Never mind my dumb question - I misread the obit. Chuck In a message dated 8/3/2013 12:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jtr@atlanticbb.net writes: In case anyone missed this one: Charles C. Natcher January 21, 1930 - July 31, 2013 NATCHER, CHARLES C., “Charlie”, 83, Ebensburg, passed away July 31, 2013, at Memorial Medical Center, Johnstown, surrounded by family and friends. Born January 21, 1930, in Barr Twp., the son of Henry and Marie (Shilling) Natcher. Preceded in death by parents and son Joseph. Survived by children, John Natcher (Cheryl Groove), Ebensburg; Henry Natcher (Barb Griffith), Blairsville; Marlene, wife of Randy Lauer, Ebensburg and Charlene Natcher, Harrisburg; grandchildren, Joseph, Laura, Bonnie, Angie and Monica Natcher, Thomas Lauer and Shaun Henson. Brother of Helen (Thomas) Morris, Ebensburg; Olean (Lloyd) Bishop, Northern Cambria; Verla (Marinus) Nelen, Tripoli; Betty (Robert) Wasser, Strongstown; Jean (Ron) Bopp, Marie (Don) Williams and Dorothy (Charles) Arotin, all of Ebensburg. Also survived by numerous nieces and nephews. Retired from C&I Railroad. Member of St. Nicholas Catholic Church. He enjoyed farming and repairing cars for friends and family. He enjoyed spending time with his special pet “Queenie”, watching wrestling with close friends and playing the lottery. He greatly appreciated the excellent care he received from the staff of DCI Dialysis of Hastings. Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Fr. Michael Gabler, OSB. Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. Visitation Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. Services Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Interment Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855 jtr@atlanticbb.net - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the obit. Who were the parents of Betty Natcher, married to Robert Wasser? Thanks, Chuck Glasser In a message dated 8/3/2013 12:57:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jtr@atlanticbb.net writes: In case anyone missed this one: Charles C. Natcher January 21, 1930 - July 31, 2013 NATCHER, CHARLES C., “Charlie”, 83, Ebensburg, passed away July 31, 2013, at Memorial Medical Center, Johnstown, surrounded by family and friends. Born January 21, 1930, in Barr Twp., the son of Henry and Marie (Shilling) Natcher. Preceded in death by parents and son Joseph. Survived by children, John Natcher (Cheryl Groove), Ebensburg; Henry Natcher (Barb Griffith), Blairsville; Marlene, wife of Randy Lauer, Ebensburg and Charlene Natcher, Harrisburg; grandchildren, Joseph, Laura, Bonnie, Angie and Monica Natcher, Thomas Lauer and Shaun Henson. Brother of Helen (Thomas) Morris, Ebensburg; Olean (Lloyd) Bishop, Northern Cambria; Verla (Marinus) Nelen, Tripoli; Betty (Robert) Wasser, Strongstown; Jean (Ron) Bopp, Marie (Don) Williams and Dorothy (Charles) Arotin, all of Ebensburg. Also survived by numerous nieces and nephews. Retired from C&I Railroad. Member of St. Nicholas Catholic Church. He enjoyed farming and repairing cars for friends and family. He enjoyed spending time with his special pet “Queenie”, watching wrestling with close friends and playing the lottery. He greatly appreciated the excellent care he received from the staff of DCI Dialysis of Hastings. Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Fr. Michael Gabler, OSB. Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. Visitation Friends will be received from 4:00 - 8:00 p.m. Friday at Moriconi Funeral Home, Inc., Northern Cambria. Services Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 12:00 noon Saturday at St. Nicholas Catholic Church. Interment Committal, St. Nicholas Cemetery. James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855 jtr@atlanticbb.net - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACAMBRI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message