Nice website for old medical terms: http://www.thornber.net/medicine/html/medgloss.html It does list your 'brain fever' as meningitis and typhus~ Emma Noye On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM, marilyn <[email protected]> wrote: > > I found the death certificates [actually cause of death listed in > church records.] Two of my g-aunts had "brain fever" listed as the cause of > death. Both women were in their 20s and had four healthy children. > Recently I read a phrase in a novel that said someone died of "brain > fever" and then said "what we would today call a nervous breakdown." That > does not make sense to me. Anyone know the answer? > > > Marilyn Kline Washington > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

More: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tschüss Audio of people saying this word in German: http://www.forvo.com/word/tschüß/ - Patrick On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi all. > > Checked with my partner, who was born and raised and spent 40+ years in > Germany. > > It is spelled Tschuss (umlat over the u) and to my American ears, when I > have heard him say it in phone conversations, it sounds almost like > "Cheers." Pronounced almost like "Choous". The s is somewhat silent...you > emphasize the t-chuss. It is an all purpose good bye. > > - Patrick > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 9/1/2011 7:31:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I hear this German word used and can not find it in the dictionary. It >> sounds like Schuss and it is said like a goodbye. I assume it has a >> different >> spelling or I would be able to locate it or I am not hearing it >> correctly. >> Probably a word like our 'bye' or something? >> >> James Thomas Rosenbaum >> 310 Melvin Street >> Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 >> 814-266-6855 >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> >> Mr. Rosenbaum, >> Regarding the German word you were trying to identify... >> I am not able to identify that word exactly, but by consulting several of >> my Germany dictionaries, May I suggest possibilites. In German there are >> several words with the root of Schutz (with and without the umlaut over >> the >> 'u'. These have to do with protection, such as a guardian angel. Perhaps >> the >> word is a word at parting to indicate the hope that the individual goes >> in >> safety, akin to the Spanish phrase Vaya con Dios (Go with God). >> >> Richard L. Hoover >> Long Beach, California >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hi all. Checked with my partner, who was born and raised and spent 40+ years in Germany. It is spelled Tschuss (umlat over the u) and to my American ears, when I have heard him say it in phone conversations, it sounds almost like "Cheers." Pronounced almost like "Choous". The s is somewhat silent...you emphasize the t-chuss. It is an all purpose good bye. - Patrick On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > In a message dated 9/1/2011 7:31:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I hear this German word used and can not find it in the dictionary. It > sounds like Schuss and it is said like a goodbye. I assume it has a > different > spelling or I would be able to locate it or I am not hearing it correctly. > Probably a word like our 'bye' or something? > > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > - - - - - - - - - - > > > Mr. Rosenbaum, > Regarding the German word you were trying to identify... > I am not able to identify that word exactly, but by consulting several of > my Germany dictionaries, May I suggest possibilites. In German there are > several words with the root of Schutz (with and without the umlaut over the > 'u'. These have to do with protection, such as a guardian angel. Perhaps > the > word is a word at parting to indicate the hope that the individual goes in > safety, akin to the Spanish phrase Vaya con Dios (Go with God). > > Richard L. Hoover > Long Beach, California > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, does anyone know what this word could mean: vramatices - used during Civil War - name of a food? German origin? thanks. Nancy Karns ============================================================================== This communication, including attachments, is confidential, may be subject to legal privileges, and is intended for the sole use of the addressee. Any use, duplication, disclosure or dissemination of this communication, other than by the addressee, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy this communication and all copies.

Herman Nagle has been kind enough to pass this on to me: I found this interesting and thought you would too: Chapter 1.2 Saying Goodbye - Paul Joyce Beginners' German Thanks Herman James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855

Hello Cambria Researchers, Here are the latest updates to the Cambria Schools Pages (Which includes the nearby Somerset County schools of Conemaugh Township and Windber). http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacambr2/ Please let me know of any mistakes you may find and I Will try to make the corrections as soon as possible You can contact me with your comment or suggestions at: [email protected] HS YEARBOOKS & SENIOR PICTURES: * = Somerset Co. Schools Bishop Carroll HS Yearbook - 1993 Blacklick Valley HS Yearbook - 1986 Carrolltown HS Yearbook - 1948 Conemaugh Valley HS Yearbook - 2004 Gallitzin HS Class of 1915 Greater Johnstown HS Yearbook -1982 Portage Area HS Yearbook - 1949 * Windber HS Yearbook - 1958 HIGH SCHOOL REUNION PICTURES East Conemaugh HS Class of 1961 - 2011 Reunion Triangle Area HS Class of 1966 - 1991 Reunion ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PICTURES: Beaverdale 2nd Grade - 1956 Rockville 4thnd Grade - 1959 When using the search engine to find someone, try with just the surname. For additional search engine TIPS, go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacambr2/searchtips.html Don Varner -:Cambria County, PA,, Schools Pages - <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacambr2/> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacambr2/ - I will search my Varner- Warner- Werner- Verner- database (170,000+ persons) OR my Cambria Co. PA database (90,000+ persons) anytime and share information. VISIT: <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/a/r/Donald--R-Varner> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/a/r/Donald--R-Varner OR <http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/users/v/a/r/Donald-R-Varner> http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/users/v/a/r/Donald-R-Varner

Since you mentioned it in connection with food, the word may have been vermicelli. It was used in the 18th and 19th century to refer to thin noodles. I think the word means "little worms" in Italian. I find the term in several cookbooks from that time period. Marcia  --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Karns,Nancy C. <[email protected]> wrote: From: Karns,Nancy C. <[email protected]> Subject: [PACAMBRI] Another word meaning To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 3:27 PM Hi, does anyone know what this word could mean: vramatices - used during Civil War - name of a food? German origin? thanks. Nancy Karns ============================================================================== This communication, including attachments, is confidential, may be subject to legal privileges, and is intended for the sole use of the addressee. Any use, duplication, disclosure or dissemination of this communication, other than by the addressee, is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete or destroy this communication and all copies. - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mr. Rosenbaum: The word Tschus (sometimes spelled Tschuss) is the most common farewell phrase amongst friends, having the sense of "see you or bye". It literally means God Be With You. Herman Nagle Altoona

In a message dated 9/1/2011 7:31:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I hear this German word used and can not find it in the dictionary. It sounds like Schuss and it is said like a goodbye. I assume it has a different spelling or I would be able to locate it or I am not hearing it correctly. Probably a word like our 'bye' or something? James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855 - - - - - - - - - - Mr. Rosenbaum, Regarding the German word you were trying to identify... I am not able to identify that word exactly, but by consulting several of my Germany dictionaries, May I suggest possibilites. In German there are several words with the root of Schutz (with and without the umlaut over the 'u'. These have to do with protection, such as a guardian angel. Perhaps the word is a word at parting to indicate the hope that the individual goes in safety, akin to the Spanish phrase Vaya con Dios (Go with God). Richard L. Hoover Long Beach, California

I hear this German word used and can not find it in the dictionary. It sounds like Schuss and it is said like a goodbye. I assume it has a different spelling or I would be able to locate it or I am not hearing it correctly. Probably a word like our 'bye' or something? James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855

Michael and Martha (Borsos) O'Hara Who are their parents?: John and Helen Marie (Whitney) Weakland Who are their parents?: And who are all their grandparents? James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855

This is an obit I found recently, and I think it is the same Smith family I was looking for from St. Boniface, but I am not sure it is the same family as that of "Hettie" Smith. Any further information about any of the Smith family--Alive or Deceased-- would be appreciated. Johnstown Tribune Democrat, July 1, 1911 SMITH -- Laverne, 82, Johnstown, formerly of Hastings, died June 29, 2001. Born February 22, 1929, in St. Boniface, daughter of the late John and Isabell (McClelland) Smith. Preceded in death by sisters, Della, Isabell, Susan and Beatrice; and brothers, John and Ivan. Survived by sister, Barbara (Tom) Donahue, California; and brothers, William (Rita); and Thomas "Pork"(Dorothy) Emeigh. She retired from Bethlehem Steel. At the request of the deceased, there will be no visitation or service. Easly Funeral Home, Hastings, is in charge of arrangements. Marilyn Kline Washington -----Original Message----- From: marilyn <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:49 pm Subject: Possible Henrietta Smith m to P. P. Miller Samuel and Della Jane Smith lived in St. Boniface and Patton. He was a miner. The Millers lived in the St. Boniface parish and area, too. I didn't know what nationality they were. One of their children died recently, I will find the obit and sent. I don't know if this is the same family, but a Smith married my mom's cousin, Paul Woods, originally from Clearfield County near Westover and they lived in Patton. The RR --which still operates--ran from Westover thru Patton to Bradley Junction and then to Cresson and the Mainline, so lots of the Westover people came to Patton, that being about 1893. I am starting to look at the Patton Paper now and found some things. There were many English, Irish, Scots--all English speaking--who were miners and since they were experienced, they became foremen. Hastings and St. Boniface were the first Cambria County mines, and when the owners built new mines, they talked the experienced men into moving on. Same with the Cambria Iron Company before the Civil War. They wanted not only iron workers, but miners to dig the coal and the ore in the mountains around Johnstown. Traced down some English miners who were recruited to come to Johnstown.. I sent your e-mail to a new Miller descendant today. Sent you a copy. I think you found the right Smith family. Philip's son, Philip L. [probably Louis for my g-grandfather married to Philip P's sister, Elizabeth] moved back to the Luzerne County area. Marilyn Kline Washington -----Original Message----- From: Mary McMonegal <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2011 4:00 pm Subject: Fw: PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 6, Issue 167 Marilyn, I missed your request for this family when you first posted it. But I some checking on it, and what Rainalda wrote. I agree with all the info she wrote (info from Miller family), but I don't have any info about Henrietta's parents. I tried looking for George and Roseanna with a daughter Henrietta, but can't find anything. But I just searched for Henrietta again and found 1860 census, Westmoreland County August 23, 1860 George Smith age 44, born England Mary, 36, b England Thomas, 17, born Virginia Margaret, 15, born PA William, 12, born PA Frank, 10, PA George, 5, PA Victor, 3, PA Henrietta, 6/12, PA For Samuel and Della Jane, I found a few censuses for Samuel and Jane. Can you give me their approximate birth years and what county they may have lived in? Mary McMonegal --- On Sun, 8/14/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 6, Issue 167 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Phillip Paul Miller married Henrietta (Hattie) Smith. Phillip Paul was son of Phillip Adam Miller married to Elizabeth Henches. Phillip Paul was born 4/20/1852 and died 5/12/1942, buried at St. Bernard's, Hastings. Henrietta Smith was born 1/??/1860 and died 2/23/1923, buried at St. Bernard's, Hastings. They had 3 children: Bertha Miller, b. 1882, d. 1947; Paul L. Miller, b. 1883 and Max R. Miller, b. 1887. I have Henrietta Smith's parents as George Smith and Roseannah _________. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:14 AM, marilyn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about the family of Samuel and Della Jane > ;[Girts] Smith. I believe they once lived in St. Boniface. > > I am trying to find a Henrietta Smith who married P.P. [Peter Paul] > Miller. He was the son of Philip Miller and Elizabeth Henges who lived near > St. Boniface. > > > Marilyn Kline Washington > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 04:16:36 +0000 From: Lisa Baker <[email protected]> Subject: [PACAMBRI] Yale University history classes To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was on YouTube doing a search on World War 1 battles and one of the channels that popped up was YaleCourses, under the subject "War in the Trenches." This was lecture 17 of 24 in Yale University history class 202, European Civilization, 1648-1945. Under the video was the link: complete course materials are available at the Open Yale Courses website: http://open.yale.edu/courses There are 20 departments listed with at least one course per department. The History department is represented with 6 courses. I'm going with the idea that the majority of us have at least a passing interest in history as part of our genealogy research. These classes can be viewed on YouTube under YaleCourses, or at the Yale edu website. HIST 116 The American Revolution HIST 119 The Civil War and Reconstruction HIST 202 European Civilization, 1648-1945 HIST 234 Epidemics and Western Society Since 1600 HIST 251 Early Modern England ... under the Tudors and Stuarts HIST 276 France Since 1871 Click on any class heading and under each individual class is a download section, which will allow you to watch or download each lecture as a QT (QuickTime) movie or mp3 file. According to their website, tuition is $40,500 a year, and we've been given the opportunity to audit these classes for free. There may be other universities that also offer these educational opportunities, but Yale is the first one I've come across. ------------------------------ To contact the PACAMBRI list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PACAMBRI mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 6, Issue 167 ****************************************

Can anyone tell me the maiden name of Robert Yeckley's wife. Their daughter Elizabeth Joanne "Jo" Yeckley married Merle Leo Conrad. Or the name of Robert Yeckley's parents. Thanks Mary Conrad-Hoffherr [email protected] Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves.

If Lulabelle is still on Cambria List, please contact me off list. Thanks, [email protected]

I live in Columbus, Ohio, so can't take a photo, but am copying the rest of the Cambria county mailing list to see if there is anyone who can help you. _____ From: yo momma [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Union/Salem Cemetery Does anyone know how I can get a photo taken of my Grandparents headstone at Union Cemetery in Hastings, PA? Or Where one might acquire a photo? Many thanks, Denise Bryson 313 802-5515

The mine with the entrance near Lantzy's Mill in Driscoll [or Driskel] Hollow, was the second opening of Rich Hill Mine. The old, first entrance and the coal tipple where the coal cars loaded was just past the Cemetery as you went south to Hastings. The cinder block houses there were called Slickport and were in Elder Township, not Hastings. All that land belonged to Jacob Seidel and his wife, parents of Julia Seidel who married Adam Miller, the oldest son of Philip Miller and Elizabeth Henges. Adam was born in Germany and came with his mother to Luzerne County--Philip had emigrated there about 1847 or so and she came later. Catherine [m Baltzer Kine] and P. P. [Philip Peter] were born there before the family came to Elder Township. Adam Miller advertised the land for sale in an 1888 ad in the Ebensburg paper. His farm, [formerly Jacob Seidel's, was on that land, but further west of Hastings on Murphy Road] and Francis Nagle and Anna Semelsberger, parents of Bertha Nagle m Peter Kline, later lived there. I don't know who was behind Rich Hill Mine, but they bought the land and built the houses--only company mining houses in Hastings--from Adam Milller. It was the last mine [except maybe Lanark] to stay open. It is very difficult to list the mines as they changed owners and names very often. . Adam [and the Strittmatter Brothers] donated the land for the St. Bernard's Cemetery, and the Miller family later sold the land between Slickport and the cemetery to St. Bernard's. The Miller family ran a slaughter house at the intersection of what is now Miller Street [was Old Rt 36] at the tipple. It burned at some point. The cement block house at that lot now was built by one of the Miller sons--Adam's son. Lots of talk about the building with cement blocks and the windows with glass blocks--new then. The area between the tipple [torn down and the RR torn up, but still black area there where boney dump was] and into Hastings was at times called Millerville, some odd name like Snitzelville and East End. It later became part of Hastings officially. Dr. Rice's first office was about a block above the tipple, but on the other side. I think there is a garage there. There was a general store and a hotel there, and the Grove, the first picnic area and dance pavilion. Across Rt 36 [Miller Road] from Slickport was a garage, torn down now, a gas station that Miles Cronauer, son of Philip NIcholas Cronauer and Mildred Weber, lived upstairs. The Rich Hill Mine extended north [to Lantzy's Mill] and eventually the entrance was there to save time getting the miners to the actual work face. The coal was still hauled to the Slickport entrance and the tipple there loaded the coal cars. This was by the 1950's and we would all see the miners coming home [south] as we walked the other way [north] home from school. Our family mine, Kline's Mine was able to stay open as the Rich Hill let them connect onto it and that provided a second exit and air flow the law demanded to Kline's Mine. The Kline tipple was at the bottom of the hill from the Kline dairy barn and the house, north to Rich Hill. The two houses belonging to the Ashcroft family were next on Rt 36, then the Born farms. When Rich Hill closed, the Kline Mine had to close too. The tipple was torn down and the mine filled in after that. Swedetown was not on Rt 36 or Miller Street. It was across the creek and the tracks, where the road came down from St. Boniface. The name of the original mine there was Sterling # 10, and it was the first big mine. It was also the name of the post office there. Sterling built other mines in Hastings itself, then was bought by someone else. There was some kind of a mill pond there to provide power at first. I don't know if the "Swedes" were there first or the Germans, lots of both plus the later emigrants. If the Swedes were there first, why was their Church and cemetery --now Union Cemetery--located in Hastings. I have some articles Mrs. Gertrude Kline Houck published about Swedetown. I could send. On the other side of the tracks and the Creek. [Names vary, mostly Brubaker Creek--which was the name of the small creek that joined at Lantzy Mills-- or Miller Run.] This mine was called Hastings Fuel, and I am not sure who established it. In 1950 the McGlynns and O'Rourke family, who lived near there on RT 36, ran it. They had the ponies that lived in the mine, and the openig was on the left side of Rt 36 [as you faced north] and went under the Rt 36 and the coal yard was on the right. It was still working about till at least 1960, but not a very big operation. The Boney Pile, slag dump, or whatever you called it for Hastings Fuel and Swedetown was on the right of Rt 36. It still burned in the 1950's and everyone got the slag or red dog, the part that burned, to used on "dirt" roads or lanes. North of that, same side was the school. It was called the Nagle Schol [in 1950 when attended] but was also called the Swedetown School. If the creek flooded, the Swedetown kids couldn't get to school, no bridge. Peter Kline's son, Germaine, by Bertha Nagle--Peter's mother was Elizabeth Miller m to Louis Kline--was a "hero" when he jumped in and saved a kid who was drowning. {article somewhere.] Peter lived on the other side of the boney Pile, along Rt 36. He was a carpenter at the mine. He moved to Akron in the 1930's. His daughter, Mary, was the teacher at Nagle School and later became Sister Mary George, OSB, when she got the younger kids raised. She was either suffering from cerebral palsy [my choice] or polio [might have had both] and one arm was paralyzed. After the family moved to Akron, she lived with Peter's brother, Isadore, the blacksmith in Hastings, and walked 3 miles to the Nagle School. Imagine. No snow plows then. The Slickport kids had to walk there, too. One of those kids became the football coach at Harvard. He attributed his success to Mary Kline. Peter was married three times and had kids from all three marriages, Bertha Warner, four, Bertha Nagle, four, and the last wife, Scotia, was also a three-timer. Her first husband she divorced--she had a son--her second husband had several children, they had four together, then she and Pete had two. From the "Social Notes" in the newspaper, they all got along and everyone visited everyone else. The Hastings Centennial Book has a chapter on mines. I can send it to you and you can copy anything you want from it. As far as I can tell, it is accurate, but not complete. Marilyn Kline Washington -----Original Message----- From: Rainalda Dukeman <[email protected]> To: marilyn <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 10:55 pm Subject: Name of Hastings Mine Do you know the name of the mine in Suedetown? My Dad worked at the mines there and I believe it was Rich Hill but am checking to be sure. We have gone up to see the "Company Houses" on our trips to Hastings and know the mines there but was questioning if it was part of Rich Hill. Thanks, Rainalda =

Hello, I am wondering if anyone has ever heard of the "Slovania Lodge, S. S. C. U." please. I have an ancestor August Snyder that was killed in the 1940 Sonman Mine Explosion, and under his history in the memorial for the explosion, it says he was a member of the above. I can't seem to find any information. I assume it was a Fraternal Lodge of some sort. Any clues or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Emma Noye Colorado [email protected]

Could someone tell me what cemetery might have been "the old Lutheran Graveyard?" As always, Thanks' Mary

In Ancestry's olive green upper toolbar, select "options", click in the area that contains a checkmark and the phrase "Use the Advanced Viewer ..." After saving the image, click in that same area with the phrase "Use the Advanced Viewer..." to return to viewing images with the advanced viewer. Regards, Jane Tripp ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellen To: Jack O'Connor ; [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Printing Sons of American Revolution, Part II Hi Jack and list, So, how do you turn off the enhanced image viewer? I cannot find a way to do so, and it doesn't seem to be covered in Ancestry's help files. Thanks Ellen -------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:08:40 -0400 From: "Jack O'Connor" < [email protected] > Subject: [PACAMBRI] Printing Sons of American Revolution, Part II To: PA List < [email protected] > Well there is very good news and not good news. Not good news- Ancestry tech support told me "Due to contractual agreements with the owner of this collection, we are not permitted to provide the ability to print or save copies of the records." Very good news- Steve Belin is the man of the hour with this procedure. Simply turn off the enhanced image viewer and magnify the image to 150 to 200%. Right click the image and save as usual. Oh, and when you're finished, turn back on the enhanced image viewer. WAY TO GO STEVE. And thanks to everyone who offered suggestions and advise on this. Jack

Hi Jack and list, So, how do you turn off the enhanced image viewer? I cannot find a way to do so, and it doesn't seem to be covered in Ancestry's help files. Thanks Ellen -------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:08:40 -0400 From: "Jack O'Connor" < [email protected] > Subject: [PACAMBRI] Printing Sons of American Revolution, Part II To: PA List < [email protected] > Well there is very good news and not good news. Not good news- Ancestry tech support told me "Due to contractual agreements with the owner of this collection, we are not permitted to provide the ability to print or save copies of the records." Very good news- Steve Belin is the man of the hour with this procedure. Simply turn off the enhanced image viewer and magnify the image to 150 to 200%. Right click the image and save as usual. Oh, and when you're finished, turn back on the enhanced image viewer. WAY TO GO STEVE. And thanks to everyone who offered suggestions and advise on this. Jack