Could someone please tell me anything or am I just missing it on the Cambria page about: St. John's Evangelical Church, Summerhill, PA I have a list in my notes of the communicants from Jun 6, 1847, but I am not finding the church or cemetery or any information. Thanks so much, Mary

I think my question has been misunderstood. The obit gives the deceased's siblings, then the friend _____ ____, then it states David (Storm) Nagle. Possibly meaning David is another friend or sibling? Usually a woman's name is given with a married name and the husband's first name is in brackets. When the husbad's name is given, the brackets for the wife's first name or full maiden name are in those brackets. It looks like the wife's maiden name or a mystery Storm in the obit. If it would be Alice or Betty or ?, that I get. I do not get this one. >I have one cousin named Storm and it's female. And I've seen newspapers > mentioning "Storm" as given name, and in every instance it's female. > > W. David Samuelsen > > On 11/11/2011 10:53 AM, Brian L. Cartwright wrote: >> I think what threw us off is that Storm is much more common as a surname >> than as a woman's given name. >> >> Brian Cartwright >> Johnstown >> >> -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen >> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:41 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] nagle >> >> wife's given name is Storm >> >> It is often in many obituaries, spouses are listed with given name in >> brackets. It's not unique because it is widespread. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 11/11/2011 5:10 AM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: >>> Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is >>> the Storm in brackets? >>> >>> James Thomas Rosenbaum >>> 310 Melvin Street >>> Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 >>> 814-266-6855 >>> - - - - - - - - - - >>> >>> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >>> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

How about devoted nephew? David On 11/11/2011 1:00 PM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: > > I think my question has been misunderstood. The obit gives the > deceased's siblings, then the friend _____ ____, then it states David > (Storm) Nagle. Possibly meaning David is another friend or sibling? > Usually a woman's name is given with a married name and the husband's > first name is in brackets. When the husbad's name is given, the brackets > for the wife's first name or full maiden name are in those brackets. It > looks like the wife's maiden name or a mystery Storm in the obit. If it > would be Alice or Betty or ?, that I get. I do not get this one. > > > >> I have one cousin named Storm and it's female. And I've seen newspapers >> mentioning "Storm" as given name, and in every instance it's female. >> >> W. David Samuelsen >> >> On 11/11/2011 10:53 AM, Brian L. Cartwright wrote: >>> I think what threw us off is that Storm is much more common as a surname >>> than as a woman's given name. >>> >>> Brian Cartwright >>> Johnstown >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen >>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:41 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] nagle >>> >>> wife's given name is Storm >>> >>> It is often in many obituaries, spouses are listed with given name in >>> brackets. It's not unique because it is widespread. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 11/11/2011 5:10 AM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: >>>> Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is >>>> the Storm in brackets? >>>> >>>> James Thomas Rosenbaum >>>> 310 Melvin Street >>>> Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 >>>> 814-266-6855 >>>> - - - - - - - - - - >>>> >>>> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >>>> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> - - - - - - - - - - >>> >>> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >>> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I think what threw us off is that Storm is much more common as a surname than as a woman's given name. Brian Cartwright Johnstown -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] nagle wife's given name is Storm It is often in many obituaries, spouses are listed with given name in brackets. It's not unique because it is widespread. David Samuelsen On 11/11/2011 5:10 AM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: > Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is the > Storm in brackets? > > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have one cousin named Storm and it's female. And I've seen newspapers mentioning "Storm" as given name, and in every instance it's female. W. David Samuelsen On 11/11/2011 10:53 AM, Brian L. Cartwright wrote: > I think what threw us off is that Storm is much more common as a surname > than as a woman's given name. > > Brian Cartwright > Johnstown > > -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] nagle > > wife's given name is Storm > > It is often in many obituaries, spouses are listed with given name in > brackets. It's not unique because it is widespread. > > David Samuelsen > > On 11/11/2011 5:10 AM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: >> Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is >> the Storm in brackets? >> >> James Thomas Rosenbaum >> 310 Melvin Street >> Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 >> 814-266-6855 >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

wife's given name is Storm It is often in many obituaries, spouses are listed with given name in brackets. It's not unique because it is widespread. David Samuelsen On 11/11/2011 5:10 AM, James Thomas Rosenbaum wrote: > Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is the Storm in brackets? > > James Thomas Rosenbaum > 310 Melvin Street > Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 > 814-266-6855 > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Who is the David (Storm) Nagle in Mary Beth Newcomer's obit and why is the Storm in brackets? James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855

If anyone wants a scanned copy, just email me. Kelly The Patriot News, Sunday, 06 Nov 2011, p.A17, col.1 E. Bryce Wolford, 79, of Harrisburg, passed away Friday, Nov. 4, 2011 at Hershey Medical Center. Born in Johnstown, PA, he was the son of the late Charles E. and Elma I. (Mills) Wolford. Bryce was the former owner of ABC Fuel Oil, a member of Ridgeway Community Church and East Naples United Methodist Church, a former member of Colonial Park Rotary Club, a U.S. Navy veteran and a graduate of Lehigh University. An avid golfer, he was a longtime member of Colonial Country Club in Harrisburg and Foxfire Golf and Country Club in Naples, Fl. Surviving are his wife of 55 years, Geraldine (Stoudt) Wolford; a son, Bryce Scott Wolford and his wife, Beth Ann of L. Paxton Twp.: a daughter, Diane E. Petitta and her husband, Joseph P. of Safety Harbor, FL; six grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. Memorial services will be held Tuesday, Nov. 8 at 7:00 p.m. at his church, Ridgeway Community Church, Church of the Brethren, 525 N. Progress Ave., Harrisburg, PA 17109. Rev. Elizabeth Bidgood Enders will officiate. Burial with military honors will be in Indiantown Gap National Cemetery at the convenience of the family. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to either of his churches - Ridgeway Community Church (address above) or East Naples United Methodist, 2701 Airport-Pulling Rd. South, Naples, FL 34112. To share online condolences, visit www.hooverfuneralhome. com www.pennlive.com/obits

if anyone wants a scanned copy, just email me. Kelly The Patriot News, Sunday, 06 Nov. 2011, p.A15 col. 1 Elizabeth M. "Betty" McHugh Hemskey, 88, Camp Hill, Pa., formerly of Frugality, Pa. passed away October 29, 2011 at Epworth Manor, Tyrone. Born July 28, 1923 in Frugality, Cambria County, Pa. daughter of the late Edward and Mabel (Rickard) McHugh. Preceded in death by husband, Jay E. Hemskey on November 17, 2000, and whom she married July 9, 1946 in Bethlehem,Pa., brothers: Jack McHugh and James McHugh. Survived by children, Eva Lynn and John Jay. Her immediate family includes George W. Mills ll, Steven E. Mills MD, Meredith A. Mills Esq. and Charles M. Martynuska. Survived by these brothers and sisters, Patrick McHugh (Mary), Shirley McHugh Furlage, William McHugh (Carol) and Mary McHugh Minnier. Also survived by several nieces and nephews. Betty attended Reade Twp. Schools, and graduated from Patton High School, Patton, Pa., and the Williamsport Hospital School of Nursing, Williamsport, Pa. She retired from nursing in 1983. Among her list of achievements in the nursing field, she was devoted to her career in all areas, but specialized as a suture and scrub nurse. Nursing was not only a vocation, but the purpose and love of her life. Betty and Jay were avid golfers. She competed in tournaments throughout the State and was the first female champion at Belles Springs, Clinton County. She also assisted in creating Ladies Golf Associations at Belles Springs, Blue Ridge Country Club, Harrisburg and Range End Golf Club, Dillsburg, Pa. Funeral Mass will be celebrated at 11:00 a.m. Thursday at St. Augustine Catholic Church, Rev. Joseph Fleming, Celebrant. Committal, Beaver Valley Cemetery, Flinton. Friends will be received from 2 to 5 and 7 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at the Gibbons Funeral Home, Ashville. The family wishes to extend sincere appreciation to the staff of Sonshine Country Manor and Epworth Manor for excellent care. Memorial contributions may be made to: Nurses Alumni Association Fund, 777 Rural Ave., Williamsport, Pa. 17701. www.pennlive.com/obits

Thanks to Jim Rosenbaum, we now have a complete listing of Mt. Hope Cemetery in Adams Twp. He contributed a complete photo survey of that cemetery, so we've updated the listing at: http://www.camgenpa.com/db/cemetery/cemList.php?cem=43 Lynne & Diann

I lived in Cresson,Pa and I think there was a cemetery going up Cresson mountian,maybe a 1/4 mile from the top on the left.Not sure if it is mark John Bauman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:00 AM Subject: PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 6, Issue 227 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Questions about cemetery (Cresson/Gallitzin) > ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:22:40 -0600 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Questions about cemetery (Cresson/Gallitzin) > To: Diann Olsen <[email protected]>, marilyn > <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for your responses. > > I did some detective work after seeing the below from Diann and then > remembering I have a photo of my mom next to my grandparents' headstone. > (I > don't think we can send attachments, right? Otherwise I would attach.) > > I believe they are in Union at Gallitzin. My grandparents are not on the > survey of names (which worries me a bit) but there are two graves to the > right of them in the photo that I have where I can see the deceased's name > on the Union Gallitzin list, so that pretty much confirms they are there. > > Thanks! > Patrick > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Diann Olsen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I've put an aerial photo on the "temp" area at the site. It's at: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/temp/Union_Gallitzin.jpg Note that it's "temp" >> and >> will disappear in a few days (or next time we "clean up" the area >> <grin>). >> >> Does this one look familiar? If I recall correctly, the flat part of the >> cemetery is toward the bottom of the photo, and it goes steeply >> "downhill" >> as you go towards Pershing street, and the "older" part of the cemetery >> is >> towards the top of that photo (bottom of the hill). >> >> Now, to confuse you even more ... There's a Union Methodist Cemetery over >> near Coupon (somewhere ... I haven't found it yet, physically). Jennie >> Amrhein contributed 2 listings back before Lynne & I started maintaining >> the >> site. Two different "Union" Cemeteries. One in Coupon, and one in >> Gallitzin, >> but both within Gallitzin Township. >> >> Credit cudos ... The aerial photo was cropped from www.bing.com maps. >> >> Diann >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:03 AM >> To: mlcgeo; marilyn >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Questions about cemetery (Cresson/Gallitzin) >> >> My grandparents were not patients at the sanitarium, so I don't think it >> was >> *that *Union cemetery, but that does confirm there is a Union in both >> towns. >> >> If I remember correctly, the Union Cemetery they are buried in buts up >> against a patch of houses..a small housing plan. It is not as large of a >> cemetery as I see in that Cresson photo so I believe they are in >> Gallitzin, >> but I suppose I'll have to check to make sure. (They are not on the list >> on >> the CamGenPA website.) >> >> Thanks, >> Patrick >> >> - - - - - - - - - - >> >> Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: >> http://www.camgenpa.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PACAMBRI list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the PACAMBRI mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PACAMBRI Digest, Vol 6, Issue 227 > ****************************************

Richard K. Boland m. to Mary Ann Ferko, who are their parents? James Thomas Rosenbaum 310 Melvin Street Johnstown, PA 15904-1219 814-266-6855

Hi everyone, Thanks for your responses. I did some detective work after seeing the below from Diann and then remembering I have a photo of my mom next to my grandparents' headstone. (I don't think we can send attachments, right? Otherwise I would attach.) I believe they are in Union at Gallitzin. My grandparents are not on the survey of names (which worries me a bit) but there are two graves to the right of them in the photo that I have where I can see the deceased's name on the Union Gallitzin list, so that pretty much confirms they are there. Thanks! Patrick On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Diann Olsen <[email protected]> wrote: > I've put an aerial photo on the "temp" area at the site. It's at: > http://www.camgenpa.com/temp/Union_Gallitzin.jpg Note that it's "temp" and > will disappear in a few days (or next time we "clean up" the area <grin>). > > Does this one look familiar? If I recall correctly, the flat part of the > cemetery is toward the bottom of the photo, and it goes steeply "downhill" > as you go towards Pershing street, and the "older" part of the cemetery is > towards the top of that photo (bottom of the hill). > > Now, to confuse you even more ... There's a Union Methodist Cemetery over > near Coupon (somewhere ... I haven't found it yet, physically). Jennie > Amrhein contributed 2 listings back before Lynne & I started maintaining > the > site. Two different "Union" Cemeteries. One in Coupon, and one in > Gallitzin, > but both within Gallitzin Township. > > Credit cudos ... The aerial photo was cropped from www.bing.com maps. > > Diann > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:03 AM > To: mlcgeo; marilyn > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] Questions about cemetery (Cresson/Gallitzin) > > My grandparents were not patients at the sanitarium, so I don't think it > was > *that *Union cemetery, but that does confirm there is a Union in both > towns. > > If I remember correctly, the Union Cemetery they are buried in buts up > against a patch of houses..a small housing plan. It is not as large of a > cemetery as I see in that Cresson photo so I believe they are in Gallitzin, > but I suppose I'll have to check to make sure. (They are not on the list on > the CamGenPA website.) > > Thanks, > Patrick > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> > Now, to confuse you even more ... There's a Union Methodist Cemetery over > near Coupon (somewhere ... I haven't found it yet, physically). Jennie > Amrhein contributed 2 listings back before Lynne & I started maintaining > the > site. Two different "Union" Cemeteries. One in Coupon, and one in > Gallitzin, > but both within Gallitzin Township. "Union" in a cemetery name is usually not as a proper name, but a description, meaning that two or more churches shared the same burial ground. For example, if there was a Lutheran and a Reformed church in town, but they used the same cemetery as their parish cemetery it could be called the Union Cemetery. Brian Cartwright Johnstown

Sunday, April 11, 2004 By Lillian Thomas, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette The tiny town that fought the Klan Residents used water on KKK, which responded with fatal shots Sunday, April 11, 2004 By Lillian Thomas, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Eighty years ago, more than 400 Ku Klux Klansmen rode evening trains into the tiny Cambria County town of Lilly, made their white-robed march through town -- darkened after its electric lines were cut -- and burned two crosses in a nearby field. When they returned to the depot, they were confronted by townspeople wielding a fire hose. Someone started shooting, and by 10 p.m. three Lilly residents were dead and 20 people were injured. It was a time when a quarter million people in Pennsylvania were members of the Klan, when all but two of the state's counties had KKK chapters and when its agenda was strongly anti-Catholic. Lilly, a coal-mining village of about 2,300, was targeted because it was predominantly Catholic and a stronghold of United Mine Workers -- and because it had defied the Klan on previous occasions. "They came prepared for trouble. That was the reason that they came in here," said Art Yingling, one of the men injured in the April 5, 1924, melee, in an interview before he died two years ago. "This was the only place around here that tore down their crosses. When they put up their crosses, they tore them down." The interviewer was Hugh Conrad, nephew of one of the men killed. Conrad, who teaches English at Cambria County Area Community College, has spent years collecting information about the confrontation. Conrad and several fellow Lilly residents are working to create a memorial, hoping to have it in place by the town's bicentennial in 2006. For Conrad, 57, researching the incident has helped him understand the rage and silence he knew growing up. He heard about the Klan killings as a boy, but "we were told when we were very small not to talk about it -- that you don't talk about it." He didn't begin his research until after his father died in 1989, without ever telling the whole story of what happened that night. Anti-Catholic sentiment About 300 of the men took a train from Johnstown secured by the Klan for the evening, dubbed the KKK Special. "They would have a plain brown package that they folded and carried under their arms," to indicate that they were Klansmen, Yingling recalled. In the package was the white robe and headdress. After the Special arrived around 7:15, another 100 or so more Klansmen came in on the regular passenger train from Pittsburgh, the 610, and another passenger train traveling west from Altoona. "I can remember that night like it was yesterday," said Morris Shullman of Lilly, whose father owned a business right across from the train station. "I was sitting there with my mother and the train pulled in on the side tracks. It had maybe 10 cars on it. [The Klansmen] lined up and started to march up the street." The Klan was strong in the area, with a higher percentage of the population on its membership rosters than areas in the South known as Klan strongholds, said Philip Jenkins, a Penn State University professor who has studied the Klan. He compared the Catholic-Protestant antipathy in Western Pennsylvania of the 1920's to present-day Northern Ireland. Blacks were targeted and attacked, but in Pennsylvania, "Catholics were overwhelmingly the major targets of hatred and fear," Jenkins wrote in his 1997 book "Hoods and Shirts." The Klan was dominant in several nearby towns, including Cresson and Portage, Conrad said. Lilly was different. Founded by Irish and German Catholics in 1806, it had a small Protestant minority. Though there were Klan members and sympathizers (residents remember that the Klan newspaper was sold in town), the town had defied previous attempts to burn crosses. It also was a strong United Mine Workers town and the Klan's hostility to unions had been increased by the decision of the UMW earlier that year to expel workers in the local district who were Klan members. Many of the mine workers were Eastern European immigrants who spoke little English, another category of people targeted by the Klan. Water to fight fire, hatred Right after the Klansmen arrived, the electricity to the town was cut, probably by locals who were working with them. The community, in a high valley scooped in the Alleghenies near Ebensburg, went black. You can start at the tracks at Railroad and Cleveland streets and follow the Klan's route from that night along Lilly's meandering streets, past the same storefronts, beneath the same Catholic Church on the hill where many townspeople belonged, by the same Lutheran church where the Klansmen turned north to go up to Piper's Field. That field is now full of homes; the site of the cross burnings about where a green-and-white garage and basketball hoop now sit. That night, the town had no intention of being cowed by the Klan. One Klan member was beaten up; residents contemplated setting loose coal cars up by Piper's Mine on the hill above town to roll down and smash the KKK Special. Instead they decided to use water against the KKK's fire and hatred. A modern hydrant squats about where its forerunner did, just across the street from the depot where the Klan went to get back on the trains. That's where the townspeople hooked up the section of hose they'd gotten, spraying the tail end of the Klan procession. Frank Miesko, 22, the lead man on the hose, was shot dead there. Hugh Conrad's uncle, Phil Conrad, 24, was standing in a storefront two doors down, watching, when he was shot and killed. Cloyd Paul, a 26-year-old Protestant who had helped cut the wood for the crosses, was the third man killed. Phil Conrad's youngest sister, Helen, was in a nearby home. "We went upstairs and you could see Piper's Field," she told her uncle Hugh. "When they shot across the brick street, when the bullets hit those bricks, it sounded like roller skates. It just sounded to me as a kid like skates." Then someone ran to the house and yelled that people had been shot and Phil Conrad had been killed. Helen was put to bed, but every time she heard a car stop on the street she would ask, "Is that Phil?" The next day when she woke up a relative said "that Phil was dead, but I must not cry because Mother felt so bad. That was pretty tough for a 9-year-old. So I didn't." It was Philip's 25th birthday. Not murder but rioting After the Klan invasion, Lilly was invaded by the press. The story and the subsequent trial made national headlines. When the KKK Special arrived in Johnstown that night police locked the doors and searched the coaches, confiscating weapons and arresting 25 found carrying them. Many more guns were later found along the tracks, where they had been thrown by their owners during the train trip. State police came to Lilly the next day and patrolled on horseback for several days. Two men -- a Lilly resident and a Klansmen -- were initially charged with murder, but those charges were dropped because no one would testify against either man. It was never determined who started shooting. Twenty-eight Klansmen and 16 townspeople were charged with riot, affray and unlawful assembly. Cambria County Common Pleas judges all reclused themselves from the trial, and an appellate court judge from Philadelphia was brought in to preside. When the trial was held two months later in Cambria County Court, all the defendants were tried together, despite the efforts of attorneys to secure separate trials for the Lilly residents and the Klansmen. The trial transcript shows that the judge, Thomas E. Finletter, made clear his view that anyone out on the streets that night was engaged in rioting. All of the defendants in the trial -- both Klansmen and townspeople -- were sentenced to two years. Fear and silence Fear initially kept people of his father's generation silent, Hugh Conrad said. Then the desire to leave it behind kept their rage from boiling over. Many Catholics refused to patronize businesses whose owners testified against townspeople in the trial, and some hung carved wooden "Ku Kluckers" on electric lines in front of homes of Klan members or sympathizers, but for the most part the tension between the two groups was damped down, said Conrad. His father, also named Hugh, rarely talked about the events of that night, and never in detail. But it changed his life, because his plans to go to the Naval Academy were set aside so that he could go to work to support his mother -- who had been widowed several years earlier -- and the family after Phil's death. Children were told to be wary of Protestants, not to play with them, but the warnings meant little to him, Conrad said. He grew up not distinguishing between his Protestant and Catholic friends. "There was this underlying current between Catholics and Protestants" in town, he said, but he never really understood it until he learned more about the Klan. "Many people who were there that night harbored that animus," he said. When he began to look into the Klan invasion, he found many people still didn't want to talk about it. Changed lives Though the Klan remained powerful -- 40,000 Klansmen marched down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C., that year -- its membership began to decline and dropped off precipitously by the 1930's. Lilly, too, has declined. The last mine closed more than 40 years ago. The population is around 900. It's still a Catholic town, but its two parishes were merged several years ago. There aren't many who remember the confusion and violence of the night 80 years ago, but Conrad is struck by how it changed the lives of many in the town. A poem he wrote includes the words, "Their painful journey altered the footprints for future generations." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Morrison Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:07 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] KKK My Family (at least 11 males of all ages) were coal miners and Irish Catholics in Cambria County from 1888 until around 1930, and of all the tales we heard of KKK none mentioned any dangers to Catholics. Certain areas were 'forbidden' to Irish, or Italians or Polish or other nationalitys but no mention of KKK and Catholics. On 11/08/11, [email protected] wrote: A friend of mine told me that upon the death of the final member of a very respected family in Altoona, the Auctioneer found KKK robes and other material tucked away in the attic of the home. 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My mother was born near Cresson PA in 1910. Her family was Polish Catholic. Her family moved to NJ in 1930. She told me stories of KKK activity around the area with cross burnings in the 1920s. What she described was the classic pictures he saw in movies and in history books. They were focused not only on black and "dark-skinned" people but also on Catholics. She said they would come up by train from the Johnstown area. Since her father had friends in NJ and there were good jobs they packed up and took the PA Railroad East and got off in New Brunswick NJ. As they say the rest is history. Bob Poppy When Diocletian became the Emperor of Rome in 284, he revised the law and essentially bypassed the Senate. He essentially gave himself full executive authority and the illusion of a Roman Republic was ended. I don't think bypassing Congress is good for the USA. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "James Thomas Rosenbaum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACAMBRI] 1930 census Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:12:28 -0500 If the cross-burning happened here locally, I believe it would have been in the newspaper since those incidences were report because I do remember them as growing up being news. They did happen locally. jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:58 PM Subject: [PACAMBRI] 1930 census >I have a family whose father was born in PA. the mother was born in the > Philippines. > the father is listed as white for color and race. > the mother and all children are listed what appears to be > > "neg" or "nig" > > it clearly does not look like the "W" written for white. > > I can assume it means nigro. > > > I am doing this research for a friend. he has told me that his mother and > grandmother were always dark complected due to being born in the > Philippines. Family lore says that they had crosses burnt on their front > lawns. > would this type of story be written up in newspapers? > > thank you > Sharon > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: > http://www.camgenpa.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4eb930bb690f815ab5e9st05duc

My Family (at least 11 males of all ages) were coal miners and Irish Catholics in Cambria County from 1888 until around 1930, and of all the tales we heard of KKK none mentioned any dangers to Catholics. Certain areas were 'forbidden' to Irish, or Italians or Polish or other nationalitys but no mention of KKK and Catholics. On 11/08/11, [email protected] wrote: A friend of mine told me that upon the death of the final member of a very respected family in Altoona, the Auctioneer found KKK robes and other material tucked away in the attic of the home. This was 40 or 50 years ago. - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: [1]http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.camgenpa.com/ 2. mailto:[email protected]

If I may....the first KKK flourished originally to hassle the ex-slaves in TN. It died out in the early 1870's. In the mid 1920's it was directed at Catholics and Jews (or anyone who disagreed with them). The irony of it many blacks (in the north) became members of the KKK it was directed at Jews and Catholics. As for not teaching this in schools it is my belief this is a big problem of "selective" history in our schools. It is shameful that our younger generations have no idea of what their country history is about. i.e. The movie "The Gangs of New York" was a portion of our history that was "deleted" from the winning side of The War Between the States. When Lincoln "freed" the slaves there was a huge desertion of Union troops because they were fighting to save the union and not free the slaves. Thousands went home, so to fill the ranks of the union army many immigrants who came off the ships were offered money to fight a war they knew nothing about but it gave them money to support their families. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PACAMBRI] KKK Stories I know that I can always depend on the Cambria list for help and info concerning general genealogy and history questions and answers. So I can assume in the 1930 census, neg, nig, was in reference to negro when printed in the column for race? All the stories and info is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I am continuing to search for my friend to see if I can come up with any newspaper articles about the KKK and cross burnings in the Lehigh County PA area. Part of my family was Polish Catholic in Johnstown, and they survived there. I am sorry to hear that the KKK drove some people out of the area. For me, I live in Chester County PA and it was very active with KKK. In fact, the largest KKK clan on the East coast was located in Chester County about 3 miles from where I live. During the 20's and 30's there was a presence of KKK in a parade in our county seat just a few years ago. so they are still out there and very active. Interesting fact not taught in school and most people do not know this. The KKK originally organized due to its opposition to the Catholic church. As time went on it included the discrimination towards blacks, Jews, etc. I have copies of original KKK brochures that were printed in the 1930's and they talk about the opposition to the Catholic church. A friend of mine found them in the rafters of her house and I was able to make copies. Sharon - - - - - - - - - - Search for more Cambria County information on our webpage: http://www.camgenpa.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A friend of mine told me that upon the death of the final member of a very respected family in Altoona, the Auctioneer found KKK robes and other material tucked away in the attic of the home. This was 40 or 50 years ago.

I know that I can always depend on the Cambria list for help and info concerning general genealogy and history questions and answers. So I can assume in the 1930 census, neg, nig, was in reference to negro when printed in the column for race? All the stories and info is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I am continuing to search for my friend to see if I can come up with any newspaper articles about the KKK and cross burnings in the Lehigh County PA area. Part of my family was Polish Catholic in Johnstown, and they survived there. I am sorry to hear that the KKK drove some people out of the area. For me, I live in Chester County PA and it was very active with KKK. In fact, the largest KKK clan on the East coast was located in Chester County about 3 miles from where I live. During the 20's and 30's there was a presence of KKK in a parade in our county seat just a few years ago. so they are still out there and very active. Interesting fact not taught in school and most people do not know this. The KKK originally organized due to its opposition to the Catholic church. As time went on it included the discrimination towards blacks, Jews, etc. I have copies of original KKK brochures that were printed in the 1930's and they talk about the opposition to the Catholic church. A friend of mine found them in the rafters of her house and I was able to make copies. Sharon