This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryHaun500 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.butler/2984.2986.3213.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Johann Frantz Hilgert had 12 children including Jacob and Isacc. Isacc in-turn had a son he named Jacob. Jacob the son of Johann was the one who moved to Butler Co in PA. Hope that helps. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.