Hello Jinny Good to hear from you. Unfortunately for you, yes, I do have 30 plus pages which is all I have so far on the Rider branch in Butler county. I say "unfortunate" because it is still too disorganized to send - some is not typed yet. So for starters, I'll send you one page. Keep bugging me. It might be the incentive to get me to be more diligent????? But, first, I'm finishing up a Riffle Genealogy that is ready to index. Do you still live in Butler county ? If you do, I got the entire Fleeger line from a book in the Butler library. So you could add that section easily enough with a trip to the library. And yes, send along the will; I can abstract what I need. I can't place William Coulter; would love to know where he fits. And need anything else you or the list can find. Thx to all. Debby Harris Here's the first generation: (4) Christopher RIDER/ Lavina Timblin (Rider) / Eliza Jane ____ (Rider) / Mary A. Whitmire (Rider) (3) 1st child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 24 Feb 1811 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran record, Butler, PA) M: 13 Oct 1842 (ref: St. Mark's record) M: M: after 1860 D: 1 May 1893 (age 76:2:7) (ref: tombstone) Christopher Rider --------------------------------- wf: Lavina Timblin (Rider) B: 1827 (estimated from tombstone) D: 21 Apr 1853 (age 31:0:18) (ref: tombstone/ Historical Society cemetery record) wf: Eliza Jane ____ (Rider) B: 1825 (estimated from tombstone) D: 24 May 1856 (age 31:--:21) (ref: tombstone/ Historical Society cemetery record) wf: Mary A. Whitmire (Rider) B: D: after 1893; mentioned as a widow of Christopher residence: Boydstown, PA, Concord township, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Rider Lutheran, Butler Co, PA unknown for Mary CHILDREN children of Lavina: 1. Olive RIDER (Campbell) (c1843 - 10 Aug 1908) hsbnd: George T. Campbell (1833 - 18 July 1911) 2. Lewis RIDER (March 1845 - 31 May 1857, 12:2:13) (child) children of Eliza Jane: 3. John RIDER (c1853 - possibly dec'd by 1892; not mentioned in father's will) 4. Emma E. RIDER (Patterson) (1856 - 1897) hsbnd: Calvin M. Patterson (1850 - 21 July 1913) (4) Michael RIDER / Nancy Agnes Aggas (Rider) (3) 2nd child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg 1) B: 5 Apr 1814 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) M: 26 Jan 1836 (ref: same) D: 5 Feb 1839 (age 25) (ref: Will Bk R-30, Butler Co, PA) GET COPY Michael Rider ---------------------------------- wf: Nancy Agnes Aggas (Rider) B: 13 July 1817 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) D: 28 Jan 1877 (ref: Michael K. Flood records) residence: Butler Co, PA cemetery: unknown CHILDREN 1. Sarahann RIDER (c1837 - ?) 2. Margaretta Anna RIDER (Rankin) (25 Sept 1838 - 15 Nov 1905) hsbnd: Daniel L. Rankin (11 Sept 1839 - 12 Aug 1908) (4) Mary Elizabeth RIDER (Fleeger) / Peter Fleeger (3) 3rd child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 20 July 1815 (ref: Woods, pg 100; tombstone) M: 15 Aug 1833 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran record) D: 11 March 1876 (aged 60:7:21) (ref: Woods, pg 100; tombstone) Mary Elizabeth Rider (Fleeger) ------------------------------------- hsbnd: Peter Fleeger B: 1 March 1810 (ref: Woods D: 29 Aug 1889 (aged 79:5:28) (ref: Woods) residence: Concord township, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Rider Lutheran, Butler Co, PA CHILDREN 1. Sarah FLEEGER (25 Jan 1834) (infant) 2. Samuel FLEEGER (29 Apr 1835 - 12 June 1857) (aged 22) 3. William Bright FLEEGER (26 Jan 1837 - 26 March 1898) wf: Nancy Lydia Graham (Fleeger) (March 1830 - Apr 1928) 4. George W. FLEEGER (13 March 1839 - 25 June 1904) (no children) wf: Adelia McCafferty (Fleeger) (4 Jan 1842 - 29 Sept 1869) wf: Sallie Mitchell (Fleeger) (8 Nov 1851 - 29 July 1878) wf: Emma Stolz (Fleeger) (5 May 1865 - 7 May 1945) 5. Elizabeth Margaret FLEEGER (Aggas) (3 Sept 1841 - 1881) hsbnd: Sylvanus Aggas Jr (1836 - 1926) 6. John Nelson FLEEGER (13 Aug 1844 - 2 March 1909) wf: Margaret Campbell (Fleeger) (March 1846 - abt 1908) 7. Isaiah David FLEEGER (18 June 1846 - 19 Dec 1902) wf: Virginia Millinger (Fleeger) (26 Dec 1854 - 16 Sept 1927) 8. Catherine FLEEGER (Wick) (27 July 1848 - 13 Dec 1915) hsbnd: John Turner Wick (1 Sept 1841 - 21/24 Oct 1903) 9. Mary Margaret "Mollie" FLEEGER (28 March 1851 - 29 Sept 1905) (unmarried) 10. Sarah Isabelle FLEEGER (Wick) (14 July 1853 - 7 Feb 1905) hsbnd: William Harrison Wick (1845 - 1918) 11. Esther Anne FLEEGER (Neyman) (26 Jan 1856 - Oct 1900) hsbnd: Markle J. Neyman (17 Nov 1845 - Aug 1931) 12. Peter Albert FLEEGER (15 July 1858 - 1942) wf: Caroline Martsolf (Fleeger) (Sept 1860 - 1940) (4) Jacob RIDER Jr / Mary Susanna Euslin (Rider) (3) 4th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 1819 (ref: estimated from tombstone) M: 3 Oct 1842 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) D: 25 Nov 1884 (age 65:8:20) (ref: tombstone) Jacob Rider --------------------------------- wf: Mary Susanna Euslin (Rider) B: 26 June 1825 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) D: 28 Nov 1900 (age 75) (ref: obituary) residence: Coultersville, Clay township, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Rider Lutheran, Butler Co, PA for Jacob CHILDREN 1. Samuel RIDER (c1847 - 1 Oct 1905) wf: Louise ____ (Rider) (? - 10 Dec 1906) 2. Marietta RIDER (Conn) (c1848 - ?) hsbnd: Samuel Conn (? - ?) 3. Lewis RIDER (c1851 - living in 1911) 4. Almira RIDER (22 Oct 1852 - 28 Apr 1873) (20:6:6) 5. James Coulter RIDER (5 May 1854 - 23 Jan 1877) (22:8:8) 6. Kezia "Cassia" RIDER (Culver) (2 Jan 1857 - 5 May 1885) (28:4:3) hsbnd: Horatio M. Culver (? - ?) 7. Albert RIDER (c1860 - abt 26 July 1911) wf: Mary Hamilton (Rider) (? - ?) 8. McClellan RIDER (1864 - Aug 1864) 4 mo, 16 dys (infant) But living in 1911 in obit for Albert. Something's wrong 9. Olive RIDER (Morris) (? - ?) hsbnd: ____ Morris (? - ?) (4) John Snyder RIDER / Catharine Sarah Whitmire (Rider) (3) 5th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 4 Apr 1824 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) M: D: 1890 (age 66:3:25) (ref: tombstone) John Snyder Rider ------------------------------------ wf: Catharine Sarah Whitmire (Rider) B: 1824 (ref: estimated from tombstone) D: 25 Dec 1897 (age 73:5:20) (ref: tombstone) residence: Concord twp, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Zion Lutheran, Concord twp, Butler Co, PA CHILDREN 1. Henry Snyder RIDER (1846 - 1926) wf: Susan C. ____ (Rider) (1851 - 1929) 2. Harrison RIDER (c1848 - by 1860) (child) 3. Franklin RIDER (1850 - 1920) wf: Mary ____ (Rider) (1854 - 1946) 4. Aaron RIDER (1853 - 1921) wf: Naomi Sanderson (Rider) (1861 - 1950) 5. William D. RIDER (c1855 - ?) 6. Sarah Margaret RIDER (c1858 - ?) 7. Susannah Catherine Whitmire RIDER (McGarvey) (1860 - 1940) hsbnd: J. Calvin McGarvey (1853 - 1893) 8. John Bright RIDER (? - ?) 9. Mary O. RIDER (Robb) (? - ?) hsbnd: ____ Robb (? - ?) 10. Rebecca Emma RIDER (? - ?) (4) Samuel B. RIDER / Catharine Byers (Rider) (3) 6th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 29 Jan 1826 (ref: History of Butler Co, 1895 ed, pg 1079) M: 5 June 1851 (ref: same) D: 27 March 1904 G.A.R. (age 78) (ref: tombstone) Samuel B. Rider --------------------------------- wf: Catharine Byers (Rider) B: 5 Dec 1833 (ref: tombstone) D: 23 Dec 1894 (age 61) (ref: tombstone) residence: Centre township, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Rider Lutheran, Butler Co, PA CHILDREN 1. Sarah Jane RIDER (McCandless) (c1852 - 25 Dec 1868) (youth) hsbnd: Redick McCandless (? - ?) 2. Lorenzo RIDER (1853 - 24 Dec 1931) wf: Annie D. Whitmire (Rider) (1859 - 1939) 3. Orestes C. RIDER (21 Oct 1854 - 1941) wf: Emeline Martha Sanderson (Rider) (Sept 1858 - 1925) 4. Samuel A. RIDER (c1856 - 9 Nov 1860) (child) 5. George Albert RIDER (1859 - 1933) wf: Elizabeth B. Martsolf (Rider) (1866 - 1898) 6. Harriet A. RIDER (Graham) (? - ?) hsbnd: Edward Graham (? - ?) 7. Laura A. RIDER (Stepheson) (? - ?) hsbnd: E. Calvin Stepheson (? - ?) 8. Olive E. RIDER (Albert) (? - ?) hsbnd: John L. Albert (? - ?) 9. Jessie V. RIDER (? - by 1895) 10. Ulysses Sheridan RIDER (23 March 1869 - 9 Apr 1940) probate date? wf: Clara Elizabeth Hawk (Rider) (8 Sept 1867 - 23 Apr 1927) 11. Carrie M. RIDER (Allen) (1881 - 13 March 1925) These dates must be for another Carrie; this Carrie is listed as living in her brother Ulysses' obit in Catharine's child; dates may be for another Carrie? (delete from final copy) hsbnd: ____ Allen (? - ?) (4) Sarah RIDER (3) 7th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: D: in childhood Sarah Rider ------------------------------ (4) David RIDER (3) 8th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: D: in childhood David Rider ----------------------------- (4) Mary Margaret RIDER (Whitmire) / Peter Whitmire (3) 9th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 17 Apr 1831 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) M: D: 7 Aug 1892 (age 62) (ref: History of Butler Co, 1895 ed, pg 1016) Mary Margaret Rider (Whitmire) ---------------------------------- hsbnd: Peter Whitmire B: 1831 (ref: same) D: residence: Oakland twp, Butler Co, PA cemetery: CHILDREN 1. Sarah Catherine WHITMIRE (Campbell) (c1853 - ?) hsbnd: James Campbell (? - ?) 2. Jacob Irwin WHITMIRE (c1856 - 12 Sept 1862) (child) 3. Francis P. WHITMIRE (c1859 - 10 Oct 1862) (child) 4. Willie P. WHITMIRE (after 1860 - 12 Oct 1862) (child) 5. Emma Adela WHITMIRE (1866 - 23 Dec 1890, 24:8:18) 6. John B. WHITMIRE (1872 -13 Apr 1877, 5:9:5) (child) (4) George RIDER / Mary A. Rumbaugh (Rider) (3) 10th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) B: 24 March 1833 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) M: 26 Apr 1855 (ref: History of Butler Co, 1895 ed, pg 1079) D: 27 Apr 1915 (age 82) (ref: tombstone) George Rider ------------------------------ wf: Mary A. Rumbaugh (Rider) B: 25 Oct 1832 (ref: tombstone) D: 12 May 1890 (age 57) (ref: tombstone) residence: Centre township, Butler Co, PA cemetery: Rider Lutheran, Center twp, Butler Co, PA CHILDREN 1. Margaret L. RIDER (Miller) (1857 - 1909) hsbnd: Harrison Miller (1856 - 1916) 2. Sarah Bella RIDER (Baker) (2 Nov 1858-17 Apr 1890) hsbnd: Andrew J. Baker (? - ?) 3. Olive B. RIDER (? - ?) 4. Emma E. RIDER (Thornburg) (Oct 1864 - ?) hsbnd: Samuel Thornburg (Sept 1864 - ?) 5. Mary E. RIDER (Christley) (1866 - 1899) hsbnd: Jacob S. Christley (1851 - 1926) 6. Maria RIDER (Hutchison) (1867 - 1905) hsbnd: Orin A. Hutchison (1864 - 1923) 7. Elsie J. RIDER (? - ?) hsbnd: possibly married a McCandless TRY TO PROVE 8. infant (? - ?) -----Original Message----- From: jinny Whitehouse <jinny@zbzoom.net> To: Debby <harrisch@bellsouth.net> Date: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: Re: Jacob Rider family >Hi Debby, > Thanks a million for the p. 383 in the Butler Co. history. I found it >in my book. >So now have added the children of Sarah Bright and Jacob Rider in my >Bright notebook. Do you have any dates for them? Spouses? Did Samuel >have a son named William Colter Rider b. 22 May 1878, in Butler Co., Pa >and d. 2 Nov 1951 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH.? Hope you tell me more. >Do you need a copy of Michael Bright's will - I fouund it in Pittsburgh >and have typed a copy of it. Hugs Jinny > >

Debby, I have a correction on one of your Riders. The child you have listed below as "Henry Snyder Rider (1846-1926) was actually Henry SILAS Rider. His wife was Susannah E. Crawford, b. in Butler Co. in 1851. In most census records he is enumerated as Henry S. Rider, but in 1880 he was listed as Silas H. Rider. Ann > (4) John Snyder RIDER / Catharine Sarah Whitmire (Rider) > (3) 5th child of Jacob RIDER / Sarah Bright (Rider) (pg ) > (2) 1st child of Christopher RIDER / Mary Magdalene Müller (Rider) (pg ) > (1) 2nd child of Lorentz REITER (pg ) > > B: 4 Apr 1824 (ref: St. Mark's Lutheran records) > M: > D: 1890 (age 66:3:25) (ref: tombstone) > John Snyder Rider > ------------------------------------ > wf: Catharine Sarah Whitmire (Rider) > B: 1824 (ref: estimated from tombstone) > D: 25 Dec 1897 (age 73:5:20) (ref: tombstone) > residence: Concord twp, Butler Co, PA > cemetery: Zion Lutheran, Concord twp, Butler Co, PA > CHILDREN > 1. Henry Snyder RIDER (1846 - 1926) > wf: Susan C. ____ (Rider) (1851 - 1929) -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia mailto:annh@erols.com