Joyce, In the 1880 census it looks like Jacob's father is Charles, 90 yrs. old. Jacob is listed with the following: Census Place: Butler, Butler, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255109 National Archives Film T9-1109 Page 515C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Jacob SCHMOKER Self M M W 46 GER Occ: Shoemaker Fa: GER Mo: GER Magdalena SCHMOKER Wife F M W 46 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: GER Mo: GER Amelia SCHMOKER Dau F S W 10 PA Fa: GER Mo: PA Charles SCHMOKER Son M S W 8 PA Fa: GER Mo: PA Paul SCHMOKER Son M S W 4 PA Fa: GER Mo: PA This looks like his son, William and his family. Census Place: Butler, Butler, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255109 National Archives Film T9-1109 Page 528B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William SCHMOKER Self M M W 25 PA Occ: Shoe Maker Fa: WUERT. Mo: PA Catharine SCHMOKER Wife F M W 23 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: BAV. Mo: BAV. Flora SCHMOKER Dau F S W 4 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Alwisher SCHMOKER Son M S W 11M PA Fa: PA Mo: PA No sign of Johny and Mary is most likely married?