Iris, I haven't gotten back far on the MANNY's because I have no real interest since I'm not descended from them. Hope some of this will info will help you. Arthur Ray MANNY's is son of: (and 2nd wife) Christian J. (Joseph?) MANNY (aka as Chris or Christ) Born 19 Aug 1878, Butler Borough, Butler Co., PA Marr: 1st Lydia CAMPBELL (She died 25 Apr 1904) Marr: 2nd 8 Nov 1906, Butler, Butler Co., PA to Ethel Mae OSMAN (my grandaunt) Died: 3 Apr 1938, Butler, Butler Co. Bur: 5 Apr 1938, Rose Hill Cemetery, Butler Christian's parents were Joseph MANNY (twin) and Anna MANNY. Joseph may be the Joseph that is age 7 below. I would love to know Anna's maiden name. If you want data on my grandaunt, Ethel Mae OSMAN, let me know. She had a millenary shop in Butler in the 1940s. I have a vague memory of being in it when I was a little girl. Also, I'll type up Christ MANNY's obit for you if you want. It names some of his relatives and 2 other sons to his first wife. I did hear from somebody years ago that said the name MANNY was French and spelled MONET or something like that at one time. I can't seems to find anything about this in my file. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris Wakeling" <iris_w@efn.org> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Re: PABUTLER-D Digest V03 #18 > > Does anybody know about Martha HOCKENBERRY mentioned in her husband's > obit? > > Husband is: > > Arthur Ray MANNY > > Born: 31 Aug 1907, Butler, Butler Co., PA > > Died: 17 Sep 1972, Girald, Trumbull Co., OH > > Bev in Calif. Iris wrote this reply to above message: > I have this info on the MANNY: > !CENSUS: 1850 South Butler Twp., Butler Co., Pa pg 215B household 113/113 > John Manny 40 1000 France; Sophia 41 France; Margaret 17; John 14; Mary 11; > Joseph 7 and catharine 7. > !CENSUS: 1850 South Butler Twp., Butler Co. Pa pg 217B household 143/143 > Nicolas Manny 43 1500 France; Mary 40 France; Rose Ann 18 France; Catharine > 14 Pa. > Please share with me if you link with these. > Iris