There is a Robert Criswell Black (1804-1850), son of John and Jane (Criswell) Black, h/o Nancy Ann Kerr.

Nancy, It's good to hear from you. Will you be visiting Butler County this year? I was checking to see if I had anything on Robert Black. There is Robert Black, born Adams County, Pa. a s/o Adam and Polly Black. He married (1) Sarah Courtney, (2) Sarah Uber. There is Robert and Elizabeth (Grossman) Black. He was born in 1770 in Huntingdon County, Pa. They married in that county, too. His wife was a daughter of Benedict and Betsy Grossman, my great, great, great grandparents. There is a Robert Black born in County Donegal, Ireland about 1809. He married Elizabeth McElhinny in Ireland about 1834. Are Robert and Sarah (Bovard) Black of Butler County, too? Both surnames are local ones.

Hello, Does anyone have the descendants of: John L. Albert wf: Olive E. Rider married: 02 Aug 1883 and: George T. Campbell (1833-18 July 1911) wf: Olive Rider (1843-1908) Thx, Debby -----Original Message----- From: GrannyGlee@aol.com <GrannyGlee@aol.com> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Re: ALBERTs, RALSTONs and HENSHAWs >In a message dated 3/29/02 1:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, >edalbert@pacbell.net writes: > > >> Subj: [PABUTLER-L] Re: ALBERTs, RALSTONs and HENSHAWs >> Date: 3/29/02 1:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time >> From: edalbert@pacbell.net (Ed Albert) >> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com">PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com</A> >> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> >> Hi Glee and all ... >> >> Some pictures of the Albert family bible are available on my web site. I >> had the opportunity a few years back to visit with the current caretaker of >> the bible (Donald James Albert), and was able to look at it and take some >> pictures of it. Donald is a descendant of the very same George Albert >> mentioned in the article Glee included. >> >> >> Ed Albert >> Web Manager >> The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org >> The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, >> Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm >> >> >> ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >> Remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ >> -- Patti Caldwell >> >> > >Ed, >Do I need a password, or anything to use your website? >G > > > >==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > edbook@alpha.clarion-net.com > > >

Iris, I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the location of the gravesite of Joseph Brown Dodds and wife Margaret. I visited the White Oak Springs Church 5/19/01 in search of the gravesite for my Hilliards and Dodds. I found the marker for J. B. DODDS, Dec. 12, 1834 - April 29, 1885, M. J. DODDS, July 15, 1842 - June 11, 1908, along with several other Hilliards. The stone itself is a larger stone -- several feet high, and could possibly be a replacement for the original. If I remember correctly, I believe someone told me that their grand daughter PLUMA HILLIARD had replaced the stone sometime before her death. I remember pulling into the church parking lot and parking close to the graveyard. I then walked along the front of the graveyard along Rt. 68 past some trees. It might be in the 3rd or 4th row of grave markers from the group of trees to the right of the church. I know I saw other DODDS buried further away from the church toward the center of the graveyard. I'm sorry I can not be specific, but I've only been to the site once. I did get a good picture of the grave marker, but I don't have a scanner as yet. Kathie

Thanks, Glee, for the info and memories of the Bear Creek and Concord churches. I, too, had ancestors in each. Hopefully someone around Fairview will have some more information on Bear Creek church. I'm ultimately trying to see if I can get more info on what townland Robert and Sarah Bovard Black came from in Donegal, Ireland. They were part of the Bear Creek church. And my father and his brothers always took us to Concord Cemetery on Memorial Day. It was an annual outing from Ohio where we grew up. Just want to wish all out there a great Easter. And many thanks for the all the help I've received from this terrific list. If I could be on just one, this is the one I'd choose. You guys are the nicest people around! Nancy GrannyGlee@aol.com wrote: >The local history books don't seem to give the names of the early members of >some of the early churches. On page 560 and 561 in Brown's 1895 Butler Co. >history there are members mentioned for >the North Butler Presbyterian congregation. They met in Fergus Hutchison's >house after the first church burned. Some of the early members of the church >included Samuel Jack, Joseph Thorn, John Russell, Wilson M. Call, Isaac Robb, >and all their wives, plus Mrs. Neyman. Some elders of the early church were >William Dinsmore, J. L. Neyman, Archibald McJunkin, A. McCaskey, William C. >Robb, Isaac Robb, John L. Neyman, W. J. Hutchison, W. H. Neyman, and Christy >Robb > >In the History of Butler County published by Waterman and Watkins, 1883, p. >372, there is an article on the Bearcreek Presbyterian Church in Fairview Tp. >According to it, the first worship was in a tent. It was called Deer Lick >Tent and was positioned in the middle of the "old" graveyard which was about >halfway between Fairview and Karns City. About 1800, the neighborhood >Presbyterians, including Sam Kinkaid, Joseph Smith and John Craig, erected a >log church. The site was in the Lower Bear Creek Cemetery. I assume that to >be on the left, in the trees, as you drive into the cemetery. >Maybe someone out Fairview way can tell us. >I wonder if my young teenage genealogy friend at Fairview can fill us in. >Twenty-five years ago more stones were observed at that site on the left, >even though only the top half of the stones were above ground. Today they're >gone completely, sunken all the way into the ground. There are only a very >few stones in the trees, now. [I still can't believe my sister and I got on >our knees in front of a Campbell stone in those trees. We were moving the >dirt away to see if a date could be read. Weird!] In Brown's History of >Butler Co., Pa., 1883, page 531, 532 is an article on the Bear Creek >Presbyterian Church. It really doesn't go into membership, either. > >The Butler Eagle put out a big bicentennial newspaper on Saturday, July 1, >1950. Many articles on Butler County churches and their beginning are in it. >The article on Concord Presbyterian Church is quite large. This is an excerpt >from it : "On this day, Reverend Mr. McPherrin preached on the text - Psalm >71:16, "I will go in the strength of the Lord: I will make mention of Thy >righteousness even thine only." Those who heard that serman were the families >who had come to this location a few years before. The names are still >familiar in the community - Edward Graham, George Meals, Robert Campbell, >James Cumberland, James Russell, Hugh Conway, Jeremiah Sutton, and David >Harper. These were among the first settlers." One of my uncles said he >thought Leroy Kuhn authored the article in that 1950 paper. The book Mr. >Sutton mentioned by Leroy Kuhn and Pastor Mathias would give you the best >information on Concord. There are two interesting Concord Sunday School >pictures that many folks inherited from their grandparents. Some surnames in >the men's picture are Campbell, Christie, Houk, Murtland, Bryan, Cumberland, >Coulter, Kinzer, Kuhn, Sutton, Fleming, Thompson, Adams, McCracken, >The surnames in the women's picture are Campbell, Fleming, Pisor, Woods, >Brown, Marshall, Cochran, Houk, Starr, Kinzer, and Alexander." > >G > > > > >==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: > mailto:PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com >Click below for the digest list: > mailto:PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com >In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe >(Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message) > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ed and all interested... We could start up a genealogical society here in Butler again, but we would need some definite goals and a purpose. I think this is basically what happened to that group years ago. There are meeting rooms in the library that can be used for free for community groups like this. Or we could possibly use a room in one of the school district's buildings. I'll check around here and see if I can find the by-laws and stuff from that group which might give us some direction. Pat

There is a new historical society at Prospect, Butler Co., Pa. Prospect Area Preservation Society P O Box 506 Prospect, PA 16052

In a message dated 3/29/02 8:53:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, sweeze@zoominternet.net writes: << No genealogical society in Butler. They tried it about 10 yrs. ago and couldn't get enough constant, local interest. >> Hi folks, Perhaps its time to try again since the hobby has mushroomed like crazy in the last 10 years. I for one would like to see one here. Anyone else have any interest. Ed Monnie

The local history books don't seem to give the names of the early members of some of the early churches. On page 560 and 561 in Brown's 1895 Butler Co. history there are members mentioned for the North Butler Presbyterian congregation. They met in Fergus Hutchison's house after the first church burned. Some of the early members of the church included Samuel Jack, Joseph Thorn, John Russell, Wilson M. Call, Isaac Robb, and all their wives, plus Mrs. Neyman. Some elders of the early church were William Dinsmore, J. L. Neyman, Archibald McJunkin, A. McCaskey, William C. Robb, Isaac Robb, John L. Neyman, W. J. Hutchison, W. H. Neyman, and Christy Robb In the History of Butler County published by Waterman and Watkins, 1883, p. 372, there is an article on the Bearcreek Presbyterian Church in Fairview Tp. According to it, the first worship was in a tent. It was called Deer Lick Tent and was positioned in the middle of the "old" graveyard which was about halfway between Fairview and Karns City. About 1800, the neighborhood Presbyterians, including Sam Kinkaid, Joseph Smith and John Craig, erected a log church. The site was in the Lower Bear Creek Cemetery. I assume that to be on the left, in the trees, as you drive into the cemetery. Maybe someone out Fairview way can tell us. I wonder if my young teenage genealogy friend at Fairview can fill us in. Twenty-five years ago more stones were observed at that site on the left, even though only the top half of the stones were above ground. Today they're gone completely, sunken all the way into the ground. There are only a very few stones in the trees, now. [I still can't believe my sister and I got on our knees in front of a Campbell stone in those trees. We were moving the dirt away to see if a date could be read. Weird!] In Brown's History of Butler Co., Pa., 1883, page 531, 532 is an article on the Bear Creek Presbyterian Church. It really doesn't go into membership, either. The Butler Eagle put out a big bicentennial newspaper on Saturday, July 1, 1950. Many articles on Butler County churches and their beginning are in it. The article on Concord Presbyterian Church is quite large. This is an excerpt from it : "On this day, Reverend Mr. McPherrin preached on the text - Psalm 71:16, "I will go in the strength of the Lord: I will make mention of Thy righteousness even thine only." Those who heard that serman were the families who had come to this location a few years before. The names are still familiar in the community - Edward Graham, George Meals, Robert Campbell, James Cumberland, James Russell, Hugh Conway, Jeremiah Sutton, and David Harper. These were among the first settlers." One of my uncles said he thought Leroy Kuhn authored the article in that 1950 paper. The book Mr. Sutton mentioned by Leroy Kuhn and Pastor Mathias would give you the best information on Concord. There are two interesting Concord Sunday School pictures that many folks inherited from their grandparents. Some surnames in the men's picture are Campbell, Christie, Houk, Murtland, Bryan, Cumberland, Coulter, Kinzer, Kuhn, Sutton, Fleming, Thompson, Adams, McCracken, The surnames in the women's picture are Campbell, Fleming, Pisor, Woods, Brown, Marshall, Cochran, Houk, Starr, Kinzer, and Alexander." G

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In a message dated 3/29/02 1:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, edalbert@pacbell.net writes: > Subj: [PABUTLER-L] Re: ALBERTs, RALSTONs and HENSHAWs > Date: 3/29/02 1:43:31 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: edalbert@pacbell.net (Ed Albert) > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com">PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Hi Glee and all ... > > Some pictures of the Albert family bible are available on my web site. I > had the opportunity a few years back to visit with the current caretaker of > the bible (Donald James Albert), and was able to look at it and take some > pictures of it. Donald is a descendant of the very same George Albert > mentioned in the article Glee included. > > > Ed Albert > Web Manager > The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org > The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, > Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > -- Patti Caldwell > > Ed, Do I need a password, or anything to use your website? G

The Clerk of the Session's house burned down about 1923. All Church records were stored there and lost. The Church history has some reference to the early leaders. I am a descendant of Jeremiah SUTTON. Howard A (Sutton, Harper, Parker) Topp George Gardner wrote: > The organization of Concord Church was completed in the fall of > 1804 by the election and ordination to the office of Ruling Elder the > following, viz.: Jeremiah SUTTON, Hugh CONWAY, Sr., William CHRISTIE, Andrew > CHRISTIE and John CHRISTIE. > > Anyone researching the family of Hugh Conway ? > William Gilghrist or Jeremiah Wick or associated families from this area?? > Please contact me. > Regards, > George ghgslg@zbzoom.net > Butler,PA > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > edbook@alpha.clarion-net.com

The organization of Concord Church was completed in the fall of 1804 by the election and ordination to the office of Ruling Elder the following, viz.: Jeremiah SUTTON, Hugh CONWAY, Sr., William CHRISTIE, Andrew CHRISTIE and John CHRISTIE. Anyone researching the family of Hugh Conway ? William Gilghrist or Jeremiah Wick or associated families from this area?? Please contact me. Regards, George ghgslg@zbzoom.net Butler,PA

Hi Rebecca, The Concord Presbyterian Church address: 625 Hooker Rd. West Sunbury, 16061 Ph.((724) 894-2338 revrvm@aol.com Lists 128 members Don Emmel, Napa, CA

No genealogical society in Butler. They tried it about 10 yrs. ago and couldn't get enough constant, local interest.

Would the list administrator please contact me.... Glenny www.capriella.com AOL IM glenny MSN glennycap@hotmail.com ICQ 45337016

Hi Glee and all ... Some pictures of the Albert family bible are available on my web site. I had the opportunity a few years back to visit with the current caretaker of the bible (Donald James Albert), and was able to look at it and take some pictures of it. Donald is a descendant of the very same George Albert mentioned in the article Glee included. Ed Albert Web Manager The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm

Hi Iris ... With this clan of Henshaws ... what you see is what I got. Wish that I could offer more than that, but thats all there is ... :-( Don't have a David in the other Henshaw clan in my genealogy file either ... (Jacob Henshaw line ...) At 12:01 PM 3/26/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:05:19 -0800 >From: "Iris Wakeling" <iris_w@efn.org> >To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <007d01c1d4ea$0ddfefa0$0100a8c0@iris> >Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Ralstons and Henshaws of Mt Chestnut, Butler >County, PA >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Ed, > >Would David HENSHAW b 1807 No. Butler Twp. m Sophia >Malinda 1835; Levi 1839 and Sophie E b 1847 m Joseph Benton BRYSON >be linked to your early Henshaw line? Maybe a brother?

David Russell and Isabella Harper were my GGGG Grandparents. According to my records, Samuel's father Samuel Harper married woman named Jane, but her maiden name is unknown. She also married Samuel Houlsworth, who died in 1788. Bill Roy At 10:01 PM 3/28/02 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:52:19 -0800 >From: "Robert Reese" <rreese1@cox.net> >Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Concord >To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-id: <001601c1d689$b1985a60$c37e0844@sd.cox.net> >Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >X-Message: #3 > >Howard: I saw the name "Harper" and wondered if you may be in the same >line as me. I show the following in my tree: > >David RUSSELL (b1747, Ireland d.1826, Venango Cty) married to Isabella >Harper (b. About 1745, Westmoreland Cty, d. Nov, 1833, Scrubgrass Twp, >Venango Cty). > >Isabella was the daughter of Samuel Harper (1715-1760) and Jane (Jean ?) >Holsworth (b. 1723). Any connection? Bob Reese >

GG - thank you so very much for the directions to Concord Presbyterian and for the wonderful article re the history of the Concord Church. I'm sure it was a 'hassle' to type in that long article, but know that it is appreciated. Do you know if there is any way of finding out the names of those early Church membership groups?? Especially North Butler, Sunbury, and Fairview. I had ancestors in all three areas. Are there any records available for their early days?? Thanks so much. Joan Semper Sunbury