I find William H. Ramsey in the 1909 history of Butler County. He was born March 25, 1845 and is a son of James and Annie (Covert) Ramsey. His grandfather was Alexander who married Grace Smith. If this sounds like your line, let me know. I'll type in the entire sketch after I catch up on other requests. Nothing in the sketch matches exactly with what you have. Also see a sketch on Baxter Ramsey who is also a grandson of Alexander and Grace and son of Anthony and Elizabeth McGeorge. Again, no names seem to match what you list, but you may find this is a whole new batch of relatives. Also note you have Alexander in your linage. Given customary practices in names, I suspect there may be some relationship here. This book was a subscription book so there are lots of family members who are not in the bios. I know from my family only a few are listed while I have the names, dates and locations of farms for all the family alive in 1909 and know most are not in the book. Suspect most of my family were either too poor or too tight to spend the money to get into the book. -----Original Message----- From: OkRnRamsey@aol.com <OkRnRamsey@aol.com> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 23, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] Ramsey's of Butler County >Here is the Ramsey family I am researching. >Please bear in mind this information is in the process of being proved and >may not all be correct. I'd love to hear from you if you can help me prove >this lineage. Pennsylvania is a long ways away, for me! > >Daniel and Susan Ramsey and their son Samuel Ramsey remained in Butler Co., >PA. >The other children moved to Mercer Co., PA. > >============================ >Husband: Daniel George RAMSEY > Birth: 1776 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > Marriage: est 1800 > Military: alleged service War of 1812 > Will: 1 Aug 1839 Butler County, Pennsylvania > Census: 1840 Connoquenessng Twp., Butler County, Penn > Death: est 1845 Connoquenessng Twp., Butler County, Penn > Father: George RAMSEY (b 1744) > Mother: Elizabeth CHARCOTE >========================= >Wife: Susannah WISE > Birth: est 1779 Pennsylvania >========================= >Children >========================= > 1 M Henry RAMSEY > Birth: bet 1800-1810 Pennsylvania > Death: bef 1845 Butler County, Pennsylvania > Spouse: unknown >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 2 F Elizabeth RAMSEY > Birth: bet 1800-1810 Pennsylvania > Spouse: Moses RUBY (m bef 1840) >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 3 M Jacob G. RAMSEY > Birth: 4 Sep 1805 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania > > Spouse: Susannah KIMBER > Spouse: Susannah WALFORD >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 4 M Samuel RAMSEY > Birth: 1807 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 5 F Susannah RAMSEY > Birth: 1810 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania > Spouse: DILCOMBE ? >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 6 F Sarah RAMSEY > Birth: 1812 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania > Spouse: Charles SIEGFRIED (m abt 1834) >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >------------ > 7 M Isaac RAMSEY > Birth: 16 Apr 1817 Lycoming County, Pennsylvania > Spouse: Barbara KEENER (m 9 Aug 1838) >========================= >Prepared by: Rebecca Ramsey - OkRnRamsey@aol.com >======================== >Descendants of Daniel George RAMSEY >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >- >1-Daniel George RAMSEY (1776-est 1845) >sp: Susannah WISE (est 1779-?) > 2-Henry RAMSEY (bet 1800 and 1810-bef 1845) > 3-Solomon RAMSEY > 3-John RAMSEY > 3-Phillip RAMSEY > 2-Elizabeth RAMSEY (bet 1800 and 1810-?) + Moses RUBY > 2-Jacob G. RAMSEY (4 Sep 1805-?) > sp: Susannah KIMBER > 3-Daniel RAMSEY (abt 1833-?) > 3-Catharine RAMSEY (abt 1834-?) > 3-Margarett RAMSEY (abt 1836-?) > 3-Susannah RAMSEY (abt 1838-?) > 3-Elizabeth RAMSEY (abt 1845-?) > 3-Lavinia RAMSEY (1845-1921) + Theodore VOORHIES > 3-Jacob RAMSEY (abt 1847-?) + Margaret ? > 3-Molly RAMSEY (abt 1849-?) > 3-Nancy J. RAMSEY (abt 1851-?) > sp: Susannah WALFORD (1890-?) > 2-Samuel RAMSEY (1807-?) > 2-Susannah RAMSEY (1810-?) + Mr. DILCOMBE(?) > 2-Sarah RAMSEY (1812-?) + Charles SIEGFRIED (1807-1870) > 2-Isaac RAMSEY (16 Apr 1817-1899) + Barbara KEENER (1822-1894) > 3-Daniel Keener RAMSEY (25 Sep 1839-?) > 3-Catherine RAMSEY (1841-1842) > 3-Isaac RAMSEY (1843-1899) > 3-Susannah RAMSEY (1844-?) > 3-John RAMSEY (1846-1883) > 3-Peter RAMSEY (1848-1856) > 3-George RAMSEY (1851-?) > 3-Elizabeth Barbara RAMSEY (1854-?) > 3-William Henry RAMSEY (1856-?) > 3-James Alexander RAMSEY (1857-1922) > sp: Sarah Alice SANDERS (1857-1900) > sp: Edith Mabel MCALPINE (1877-1967) > 3-Jacob Franklin RAMSEY (1860-?) > 3-Mary Magdaline RAMSEY (1862-?) > 3-Charles Washington RAMSEY (1866-?) + Maggie NETHERLAND > > >Rebecca Ramsey >OkRnRamsey@aol.com > >______________________________

Linda, Is this Brownsdale, Penn Twp., Butler Co., PA. Paul "Galloway, Linda" wrote: > I have a copy of the family history of Robert Henderson of Hendersonville, > Mercer County. Born 1741 Died 1810. There are more than 300 pages of family > members. If any one is interested I would be glad to look up information. > Many of the folks are from the Franklin, Brownsdale, and Jackson areas also. > Let me know if you are looking for someone with the surname of Henderson. > Linda > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > -- Patti Caldwell

I am looking for the surname Doerr. Thanks, Jeff

Here is what I found in the 1909 Butler County History. Hope it adds to your search. Martin Spithaler, one of Forward Township's best and most respected citizens, resides on his valuable farm of ninety acres, on which he was born, September 25, 1864, and is a son of Henry and Caroline (Householder) Spithaler. Henry Spithaler, father of Martin, was born in Germany and came to America when he was about eighteen year of age, settling first in Beaver County, Penna. He purchased a farm and also operated an old time horse power threshing machine. After his marriage he sold his Beaver County farm and came to Butlere County, where he purchased the farm on which his son Martin lives, in Forward Township. He was a fine business man and kept adding to his land until he owned two large farms and one small one, clearing the greater amount of this land himself. He died in the spring of 1899, aged seventy-two years. He married Caroline Householder, who was born in Germany and accompanied her parents to America, in girlhood. They had nine children, nemely: Henry; Caroline, wife of John Shutt; Jacob; Fred; Sarah, wife of Adam Where; Daniel; Charles; Martin; and Amelia, wife of Fred Millerman, with whom the venerable mother resides. Martin Spithaler grew to manhood in the old log house in which all the children were born and he remembers many occasions when fully an inch of snow sifted between the logs and fell on his bed. In his boyhood, youths were expected to work hard, when work was waiting to be done, and Martin had few chances to go to school and when opportunity came, he had to walk a distance of two miles to the old Critchlow school. He helped his father clear the farm, which was no small undertaking. He lived at home until his marriage, after which he operated the William Goehring farm until the death of his father, who rewarded him for his long years of faithful service, by willing him the home farm. He has made many substantial iimprovements here and has a fine property. There is a producing oil well on the farm, in which he has half interest. In December, 1862, Mr Spithaler was married to Miss Ella Goehring, who was a daughter of William and Sarah Goehring, and they had seven children, manely: Bertha ; Ida; Amanda; Walter; Elmer; Matilda and Esther. Mrs Spithaler died March 31, 1904, aged thirty-seven years, seven months and twenty-one days.j She was a loving wife, a kind and careful mother and a good neighbor. Mr. Spithaler is a member of the Reformer Church. In politics he is a Democrat. He takes an interest in educational matters in his township and served four years as school director. -----Original Message----- From: Glorygirl <GJWEISS@hargray.com> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Ramsey's of Butler County >I also have the Ramsey family in my line. Here is who I have. > >Sarah Catherine Ramsey born January 07, 1895 to Nathan Ramsey & Susanna Jane >Renison married Walter C. Spithaler born 11/1892 to Martin Spithaler & >Eleanor (Ella) A. Goehring. Sarah died 1/26/1982 while Walter died 1959. >They had 5 children, but I do not have dates for them. > >Walter Livingston Ramsey born June 12, 1895 to Samuel Ramsey & Sarah >Cashdollar, married Maria (Mary) Magdeline Frishkorn born July 09, 1900 to >Johan Heinrich Frishkorn & Margaretha (Maggie) Fulton. Walter died March >02, 1976 while Mary died 1960. They had 7 children from 1921 to 1941. > >Ida May Ramsey born 1869 to William S. Ramsey & Nancy Dunn, married George >W. Schaney born January 11, 1865 to John Schaney & Caroline Brandenberger. >Ida died March 04, 1944 while George died bet 1917-1929. I only have 2 >children for them both born about 1890. > >Would love to know more about these families. >Gloria Weiss > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <OkRnRamsey@aol.com> >To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:11 AM >Subject: [PABUTLER-L] Ramsey's of Butler County > > >> Here is the Ramsey family I am researching. >> Please bear in mind this information is in the process of being proved and >> may not all be correct. I'd love to hear from you if you can help me >prove >> this lineage. Pennsylvania is a long ways away, for me! >> >> Daniel and Susan Ramsey and their son Samuel Ramsey remained in Butler >Co., >> PA. >> The other children moved to Mercer Co., PA. >> >> ============================ >> Husband: Daniel George RAMSEY >> Birth: 1776 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania >> Marriage: est 1800 >> Military: alleged service War of 1812 >> Will: 1 Aug 1839 Butler County, Pennsylvania >> Census: 1840 Connoquenessng Twp., Butler County, Penn >> Death: est 1845 Connoquenessng Twp., Butler County, Penn >> Father: George RAMSEY (b 1744) >> Mother: Elizabeth CHARCOTE >> ========================= >> Wife: Susannah WISE >> Birth: est 1779 Pennsylvania >> ========================= >> Children >> ========================= >> 1 M Henry RAMSEY >> Birth: bet 1800-1810 Pennsylvania >> Death: bef 1845 Butler County, Pennsylvania >> Spouse: unknown >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 2 F Elizabeth RAMSEY >> Birth: bet 1800-1810 Pennsylvania >> Spouse: Moses RUBY (m bef 1840) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 3 M Jacob G. RAMSEY >> Birth: 4 Sep 1805 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania >> >> Spouse: Susannah KIMBER >> Spouse: Susannah WALFORD >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 4 M Samuel RAMSEY >> Birth: 1807 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 5 F Susannah RAMSEY >> Birth: 1810 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania >> Spouse: DILCOMBE ? >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 6 F Sarah RAMSEY >> Birth: 1812 Bradford?, Chester, Pennsylvania >> Spouse: Charles SIEGFRIED (m abt 1834) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> >> ------------ >> 7 M Isaac RAMSEY >> Birth: 16 Apr 1817 Lycoming County, Pennsylvania >> Spouse: Barbara KEENER (m 9 Aug 1838) >> ========================= >> Prepared by: Rebecca Ramsey - OkRnRamsey@aol.com >> ======================== >> Descendants of Daniel George RAMSEY >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >> - >> 1-Daniel George RAMSEY (1776-est 1845) >> sp: Susannah WISE (est 1779-?) >> 2-Henry RAMSEY (bet 1800 and 1810-bef 1845) >> 3-Solomon RAMSEY >> 3-John RAMSEY >> 3-Phillip RAMSEY >> 2-Elizabeth RAMSEY (bet 1800 and 1810-?) + Moses RUBY >> 2-Jacob G. RAMSEY (4 Sep 1805-?) >> sp: Susannah KIMBER >> 3-Daniel RAMSEY (abt 1833-?) >> 3-Catharine RAMSEY (abt 1834-?) >> 3-Margarett RAMSEY (abt 1836-?) >> 3-Susannah RAMSEY (abt 1838-?) >> 3-Elizabeth RAMSEY (abt 1845-?) >> 3-Lavinia RAMSEY (1845-1921) + Theodore VOORHIES >> 3-Jacob RAMSEY (abt 1847-?) + Margaret ? >> 3-Molly RAMSEY (abt 1849-?) >> 3-Nancy J. RAMSEY (abt 1851-?) >> sp: Susannah WALFORD (1890-?) >> 2-Samuel RAMSEY (1807-?) >> 2-Susannah RAMSEY (1810-?) + Mr. DILCOMBE(?) >> 2-Sarah RAMSEY (1812-?) + Charles SIEGFRIED (1807-1870) >> 2-Isaac RAMSEY (16 Apr 1817-1899) + Barbara KEENER (1822-1894) >> 3-Daniel Keener RAMSEY (25 Sep 1839-?) >> 3-Catherine RAMSEY (1841-1842) >> 3-Isaac RAMSEY (1843-1899) >> 3-Susannah RAMSEY (1844-?) >> 3-John RAMSEY (1846-1883) >> 3-Peter RAMSEY (1848-1856) >> 3-George RAMSEY (1851-?) >> 3-Elizabeth Barbara RAMSEY (1854-?) >> 3-William Henry RAMSEY (1856-?) >> 3-James Alexander RAMSEY (1857-1922) >> sp: Sarah Alice SANDERS (1857-1900) >> sp: Edith Mabel MCALPINE (1877-1967) >> 3-Jacob Franklin RAMSEY (1860-?) >> 3-Mary Magdaline RAMSEY (1862-?) >> 3-Charles Washington RAMSEY (1866-?) + Maggie NETHERLAND >> >> >> Rebecca Ramsey >> OkRnRamsey@aol.com >> >> >> ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >> To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: >> edbook@alpha.clarion-net.com >> >> > >______________________________

I am researching the TETZEL family and hoping someone in the list know anything about this family. There was a Prof. Tetzel teaching in your area in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Anne(Schlee)Knuppel

In a message dated 4/1/02 9:04:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, laurielr@zbzoom.net writes: > Do you have any information on Ada. I remember my Pap Eagal had a cousin > Ada Rider. I'm pretty sure that we have similar relatives. > Laurie in Butler > Would that be Ada Marion Albert, d/o Washington and Stella Albert? She was 27, a bookkeeper, and lived in Butler. She married Park D. Snavely, age 25, a salesman s/o George and Laura Snaveley at Butler on 30 March 1912. Was your Pap Eagle descended from Malachai Eagle (1839-1898), father of Laura, John, Wilbert and Alvin?

I have a copy of the family history of Robert Henderson of Hendersonville, Mercer County. Born 1741 Died 1810. There are more than 300 pages of family members. If any one is interested I would be glad to look up information. Many of the folks are from the Franklin, Brownsdale, and Jackson areas also. Let me know if you are looking for someone with the surname of Henderson. Linda

I am pleased to announce that the Albert Family Tree web site has been updated. Updates include new information on the Albert, Henshaw, Ralston, Matthews, and Summers families. Also, each name on the family group sheets now has a pedigree link that allows you to look at that person's ancestry, and move to other persons without returning to the family group sheet. In addition, at the bottom of each family group sheet is a mini-menu to allow you to switch to the name index pages as well. Ed Albert Web Manager The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm Join the Albert Genealogy Web Ring - Visit http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/webring.htm Sponsor surname mailing lists for: ALBERT, CRUICKSHANK, FAIR, HOCKENBERRY, MINNER, RALSTON, SHEPLER, SCHRECK (subscribe today ....). To subscribe just an send e-mail with "subscribe" in body to <name desired here>-L-request@rootsweb.com or <name desired here>D-request@rootsweb.com

Do you have any information on Ada. I remember my Pap Eagal had a cousin Ada Rider. I'm pretty sure that we have similar relatives. Laurie in Butler -----Original Message----- From: GrannyGlee@aol.com <GrannyGlee@aol.com> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Re: John L Albert and Olive E Rider >Notice the following names: >George R. Campbell, s/o Joseph and Elizabeth (Ray) Campbell was born about >1843. He died in Worthington, Armstrong Co., Pa. in 1911. > >George married first, Ellen Graham and they had a son Mordecai Campbell. > >His second wife, Olive Rider, was born about 1845 In Oakland Tp. Her obit >states she was a daughter of "Chris Rider of Oakland Tp.," and states she >"died of paralysis," which probably meant she died of a stroke and a >complication was paralysis. She died 10 August 1908 in Worthington, Armstrong >Co., Pa, aged about 63. > >George and Olive's children are Lewis, Ada, Presley, Walter, Herbert, Roy, >and Charles. > > > >==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > edbook@alpha.clarion-net.com > > >

I believe I gave you Jacob's death registration information from the courthouse in Butler some time ago. Did you try land deeds for Cherry Tp.? That might give some light. to the situation.

Notice the following names: George R. Campbell, s/o Joseph and Elizabeth (Ray) Campbell was born about 1843. He died in Worthington, Armstrong Co., Pa. in 1911. George married first, Ellen Graham and they had a son Mordecai Campbell. His second wife, Olive Rider, was born about 1845 In Oakland Tp. Her obit states she was a daughter of "Chris Rider of Oakland Tp.," and states she "died of paralysis," which probably meant she died of a stroke and a complication was paralysis. She died 10 August 1908 in Worthington, Armstrong Co., Pa, aged about 63. George and Olive's children are Lewis, Ada, Presley, Walter, Herbert, Roy, and Charles.

Hi. Glee! How are you? Yes, I'd like to visit, but I've had zero time to devote to genealogy this past year, and am not sure what I'd be looking for. We moved to West Hartford, CT from RI and we have new jobs etc. Guess I may have to look in adjoining counties to see if I can find Jacob Thompson's resting place--he sure doesn't seem to be in Butler Co. He was an itinerant stone mason -died in 1899-and I'd suspect he was buried in Centre Twp., but I searched the cemetery on Brewster Rd.--no luck. Pat says that it's(Brewster Cemetery) probably in another county. thanks for looking. As for Robert Black (my great,great, grandfather), ours was a cousin to Robert (and Elizabeth Grossman) Black. They settled in Parker Twp., had a large farm in Bruin with oil wells drilled on it. If I could find their townland-his or hers-in Donegal, I could really continue the ancestry back. Some of the descendants want to know if there were any Catholics in our background in Ireland--most of us are Protestants-- and I'd love to meet some of our Irish cousins. Take care and thanks again! GrannyGlee@aol.com wrote: >Nancy, > >It's good to hear from you. Will you be visiting Butler County this year? > >I was checking to see if I had anything on Robert Black. > >There is Robert Black, born Adams County, Pa. a s/o Adam and Polly Black. He >married (1) Sarah Courtney, (2) Sarah Uber. > >There is Robert and Elizabeth (Grossman) Black. He was born in 1770 in >Huntingdon County, Pa. They married in that county, too. His wife was a >daughter of Benedict and Betsy Grossman, my great, great, great grandparents. > >There is a Robert Black born in County Donegal, Ireland about 1809. He >married Elizabeth McElhinny in Ireland about 1834. > >Are Robert and Sarah (Bovard) Black of Butler County, too? Both surnames are >local ones. > > >==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== >You can unsubscribe by clicking below for the regular list: > mailto:PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com >Click below for the digest list: > mailto:PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com >In the BODY include only one word: unsubscribe >(Please turn OFF your signature file when sending the message) > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Vonda, Ed and Granny, I was thrilled with the response to my query; so it seems easier to respond to all of you at once. In 1990, my husband and I returned to Uniontown (my home), to care for my father. Stayed eight years, then moved to Florida. In those eight years, I got the bright, but naive, idea that I could find every Rider of our original ancestor. I knew, from a cousin's research, that our ancestor was Lorentz Reiter who arrived on the Phoenix and that he had four children. I now have over 1,000 pages!!! There is a great deal published on the English Rider name, but almost nothing on the German Rider name. I combed Butler county on several occasions, but it was a long trip and tiring, so I didn't get as much done as I had hoped. Met some great people; found excellent source material. I now have 30 plus pages of Butler Rider's. I'm convinced that every Rider, Fleeger, Wick and others in your county are Rider descendants. One of Lorentz's son's was Christopher. His son, Jacob, settled in Butler county and is the heir of all Butler Rider's. Jacob's brother, Michael, stayed in Fayette County. He is my gg grandfather. Thanks so very much for the additions. Any and all will be included. Let me know what else you'd like to know. Debby Harris -----Original Message----- From: Ed Albert <edalbert@pacbell.net> To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: harrisch@bellsouth.net <harrisch@bellsouth.net> Date: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: John L Albert and Olive E Rider Hi cousin Debby Undoubtedly our cousin Vonda Minner, who has a vested interest in Olive Elizabeth Rider's line, will be getting in touch with you (if she hasn't already :-) ). In the mean time, here are the first few generations for you to check and confirm we are on the same page (more than that makes this message way too big). Olive E Rider is the daughter of Samuel B Rider and Catherine Byers. If you have any questions in the meantime ....feel free to ask. Based on dates for George Campbell and Olive Rider, I believe that this is probably Olive B Rider and her husband (unknown to me ...). Olive B Rider is the daughter of Mary Rumbaugh and George Rider. George B Rider is the brother of Olive E Rider's father, Samuel B Rider. Ed Albert Web Manager The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm Descendants of Olive Elizabeth Rider 1 Olive Elizabeth Rider b: April 2, 1864 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: January 29, 1938 in Butler County, Pennsylvania . +George T Graham *2nd Husband of Olive Elizabeth Rider: . +John L Albert b: October 4, 1856 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania m: August 2, 1883 in Henshaw Parsonage, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: April 1, 1916 in Oakland Township, Butler Co, PA ... 2 Blanche Albert b: July 1884 ....... +Oliver B Fair b: March 27, 1883 m: December 9, 1905 d: January 16, 1906 ......... 3 Oliver Fair b: Abt. 1900 ... 2 Heber S Albert b: September 23, 1884 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: March 30, 1885 ... 2 Dalton Delmar Albert b: January 1886 in Butler County, Pennsylvania d: February 26, 1929 in Cochranton, Crawford Co, PA ....... +Mary Mae Best b: June 18, 1893 in Cooperstown, Venango Co, PA m: December 20, 1911 in Butler County, Pennsylvania, by Jacob Keck (Justice of the Peace) d: July 6, 1974 in Meadville, PA ......... 3 Dorothy Lucille Albert ............. +Richard B Hunter b: December 8, 1925 m: August 14, 1948 ......... 3 Raymond Albert d: Bef. 1974 ......... 3 Wilbert Dalton Albert b: January 20, 1913 d: December 15, 1981 in Meadville, PA ............. +Lillian Vincent ......... *2nd Wife of Wilbert Dalton Albert: ............. +Opal Norris b: June 21, 1928 in Darlington, SC ......... 3 Elsie Lillian Albert b: September 15, 1915 ............. +Charles C Coyle b: February 11, 1911 m: August 25, 1951 in North East, PA d: November 30, 1979 ......... 3 Joseph Paul Albert b: October 18, 1919 in Butler Co., Pennsylvania ............. +Evelyn Norris ......... *2nd Wife of Joseph Paul Albert: ............. +Thelma Burdette b: June 26, 1928 m: May 17, 1948 in Winchester, Frederick County, VA ......... 3 Mary Ruth Albert b: October 11, 1923 in Butler Co., Pennsylvania d: December 21, 1982 in West Middlesex, Pennsylvania ............. +Alfred Webster ......... *2nd Husband of Mary Ruth Albert: ............. +Delbert Eugene Patterson b: January 7, 1921 in New Castle, Pennsylvania m: September 24, 1943 in Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, Pennsylvania d: January 27, 1974 in Jacksonville, Florida ......... 3 Olive Marie Albert b: November 27, 1925 in Cochranton, Pennsylvania ............. +Edwin Perry Williams b: December 20, 1923 m: May 20, 1945 in St Bridgets in Meadville, PA d: March 13, 1987 in St Bridgets in Meadville, PA ......... 3 Doris Arvetta Albert b: August 21, 1928 in Cochranton, Crawford Co, PA ............. +James C Clark b: March 29, 1926 in Geneva, PA m: in Ripley, NY d: February 9, 1996 ... 2 Carrie B Albert b: August 1890 ... 2 Ralph R Albert b: September 21, 1898 in Butler County, Pennsylvania d: April 29, 1915 in Butler County, Pennsylvania At 10:01 AM 3/30/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:43:36 -0500 >From: "Debby" <harrisch@bellsouth.net> >To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <005701c1d7a5$7675eca0$5bd94cd8@pavilion> >Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Re: ALBERTs, RALSTONs and HENSHAWs >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello, > Does anyone have the descendants of: > John L. Albert > wf: Olive E. Rider > married: 02 Aug 1883 > >and: > George T. Campbell (1833-18 July 1911) > wf: Olive Rider (1843-1908) >Thx, Debby

Pat, I would be interested in starting up a genealogical society in Butler County. I live in Mars and work at Butler Hospital. Keep me posted. Thanks, Barbara Roos roosmars@zoominternet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" <sweeze@zoominternet.net> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] Genealogical Society > Ed and all interested... > > We could start up a genealogical society here in Butler again, but we would > need some definite goals and a purpose. I think this is basically what > happened to that group years ago. There are meeting rooms in the library > that can be used for free for community groups like this. Or we could > possibly use a room in one of the school district's buildings. > > I'll check around here and see if I can find the by-laws and stuff from > that group which might give us some direction. > > Pat > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > -- Patti Caldwell > > >

Thanks Pat, I'd like to have a copy of that article. A.A.Hoch, Jr. is a brother of my mother's grandfather, Charles Hoch. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" <sweeze@zoominternet.net> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] MILLS/HOCH/McCOLLOUGH > FRANK W. MILLS, HERO OF CIVIL WAR FAME, DIES IN PITTSBURGH > > Only Butler County Veteran to be Awarded Medal For Valor, to be Buried > Wednesday. > > Detailed obit on Frank W. Mills of Chicora. One of his daughters married > Kenneth McCollough of Butler, another daughter was married to A. A. Hoch, > Jr., of Chicora. The rest of his family was in Pittsburgh. He was married > to Sarah McFarland. > > If anyone wants this newspaper article, please let me know. > > Pat > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Remember, "Please practice random acts of kindness"........ > -- Patti Caldwell > >

Hi cousin Debby Undoubtedly our cousin Vonda Minner, who has a vested interest in Olive Elizabeth Rider's line, will be getting in touch with you (if she hasn't already :-) ). In the mean time, here are the first few generations for you to check and confirm we are on the same page (more than that makes this message way too big). Olive E Rider is the daughter of Samuel B Rider and Catherine Byers. If you have any questions in the meantime ....feel free to ask. Based on dates for George Campbell and Olive Rider, I believe that this is probably Olive B Rider and her husband (unknown to me ...). Olive B Rider is the daughter of Mary Rumbaugh and George Rider. George B Rider is the brother of Olive E Rider's father, Samuel B Rider. Ed Albert Web Manager The Albert Family - http://AlbertTree.genealogy.org The Albert Family Surname Resource Center (includes Albert, Cruickshank, Fair, Minner, Ralston, Schreck and Shepler) is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~albert/surnames/surnames.htm Descendants of Olive Elizabeth Rider 1 Olive Elizabeth Rider b: April 2, 1864 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: January 29, 1938 in Butler County, Pennsylvania . +George T Graham *2nd Husband of Olive Elizabeth Rider: . +John L Albert b: October 4, 1856 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania m: August 2, 1883 in Henshaw Parsonage, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: April 1, 1916 in Oakland Township, Butler Co, PA ... 2 Blanche Albert b: July 1884 ....... +Oliver B Fair b: March 27, 1883 m: December 9, 1905 d: January 16, 1906 ......... 3 Oliver Fair b: Abt. 1900 ... 2 Heber S Albert b: September 23, 1884 in Centre Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania d: March 30, 1885 ... 2 Dalton Delmar Albert b: January 1886 in Butler County, Pennsylvania d: February 26, 1929 in Cochranton, Crawford Co, PA ....... +Mary Mae Best b: June 18, 1893 in Cooperstown, Venango Co, PA m: December 20, 1911 in Butler County, Pennsylvania, by Jacob Keck (Justice of the Peace) d: July 6, 1974 in Meadville, PA ......... 3 Dorothy Lucille Albert ............. +Richard B Hunter b: December 8, 1925 m: August 14, 1948 ......... 3 Raymond Albert d: Bef. 1974 ......... 3 Wilbert Dalton Albert b: January 20, 1913 d: December 15, 1981 in Meadville, PA ............. +Lillian Vincent ......... *2nd Wife of Wilbert Dalton Albert: ............. +Opal Norris b: June 21, 1928 in Darlington, SC ......... 3 Elsie Lillian Albert b: September 15, 1915 ............. +Charles C Coyle b: February 11, 1911 m: August 25, 1951 in North East, PA d: November 30, 1979 ......... 3 Joseph Paul Albert b: October 18, 1919 in Butler Co., Pennsylvania ............. +Evelyn Norris ......... *2nd Wife of Joseph Paul Albert: ............. +Thelma Burdette b: June 26, 1928 m: May 17, 1948 in Winchester, Frederick County, VA ......... 3 Mary Ruth Albert b: October 11, 1923 in Butler Co., Pennsylvania d: December 21, 1982 in West Middlesex, Pennsylvania ............. +Alfred Webster ......... *2nd Husband of Mary Ruth Albert: ............. +Delbert Eugene Patterson b: January 7, 1921 in New Castle, Pennsylvania m: September 24, 1943 in Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, Pennsylvania d: January 27, 1974 in Jacksonville, Florida ......... 3 Olive Marie Albert b: November 27, 1925 in Cochranton, Pennsylvania ............. +Edwin Perry Williams b: December 20, 1923 m: May 20, 1945 in St Bridgets in Meadville, PA d: March 13, 1987 in St Bridgets in Meadville, PA ......... 3 Doris Arvetta Albert b: August 21, 1928 in Cochranton, Crawford Co, PA ............. +James C Clark b: March 29, 1926 in Geneva, PA m: in Ripley, NY d: February 9, 1996 ... 2 Carrie B Albert b: August 1890 ... 2 Ralph R Albert b: September 21, 1898 in Butler County, Pennsylvania d: April 29, 1915 in Butler County, Pennsylvania At 10:01 AM 3/30/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:43:36 -0500 >From: "Debby" <harrisch@bellsouth.net> >To: PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <005701c1d7a5$7675eca0$5bd94cd8@pavilion> >Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Re: ALBERTs, RALSTONs and HENSHAWs >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello, > Does anyone have the descendants of: > John L. Albert > wf: Olive E. Rider > married: 02 Aug 1883 > >and: > George T. Campbell (1833-18 July 1911) > wf: Olive Rider (1843-1908) >Thx, Debby

Pat, I would definitely like a copy of this obit.!!! Frank W. Mills was my father-in-law's grandfather (Frank's daughter Gussie Mills, who married A. A. Hoch, Jr., was his mother). Frank W. Mills won the Congressional Medal of Honor. Though he was originally from Orange Co., NY, he has always been refered to as the only Medal of Honor recipient of the Civil War from the state of PA, where he spent most of his adult life. Thank you, Lyn Magill-Hoch

FRANK W. MILLS, HERO OF CIVIL WAR FAME, DIES IN PITTSBURGH Only Butler County Veteran to be Awarded Medal For Valor, to be Buried Wednesday. Detailed obit on Frank W. Mills of Chicora. One of his daughters married Kenneth McCollough of Butler, another daughter was married to A. A. Hoch, Jr., of Chicora. The rest of his family was in Pittsburgh. He was married to Sarah McFarland. If anyone wants this newspaper article, please let me know. Pat

Found these interesting articles today. If anyone is doing these families and wants the copy from the paper, let me know. 19 Sep 1907, The Butler Citizen. The Dodds Reunion The reunion of the Dodds family in Prospect, last week, was a great success.... Some Dodds family names included in the business meeting notes. Also several historical notes: 1. This was a First reunion. 2. Drs. Samuel, David, and R. C. Dodds were appointed a 'historical committee to prepare a history of the Dodds clan in America." 3. W B Dodds and Enos McDonald were appointed to prepare suitable markers for James Dodds, the weaver, and for his son Thomas. They are interred in the Mt. Nebo yard. 4. Dr. David Dodds exhibited two Dodds souvenirs to the audience. One was a razor used by Thomas Dodds, who died at sea while enroute to America in 1760. The other was Rouse's Version of the Psalms, published in 1760. Dr. David Dodds received it from his father, David Dodds who received it from his mother, Rebecca Dodds, who got it from her mother, Mary Guthrie Dodds, who received it from her mother, Susan Catherine Dodds. (I wonder if anyone still has these items today, 2002?) VANDERLIN 19 Sep 1907, The Butler Citizen John Vanderlin is at home in bed, and will stay there for some time. While he was on his way home on N. Main Street last Thursday night about 10 o'clock, a large, dark devised, well dressed man came out of the paved alley between the McCandless and Wise properties and asked him to help move a woman who had taken sick in the alley. .....Thereupon the man shoved a revolver in John's face: .....He also knocked John's feet from under and fell on top of him, and then he kicked John.....He is a young man, 22, and is something of an athlete. When he got home and found that the man's foot had cut him he sent for a doctor, who sewed up the wound, and advised him to stay in bed a week or two as the wound is in a dangerous place......

Were John L. and George T. Albert brothers? Do you know who the parents were? John L. Albert and Olive E. Rider, both of Center Tp., were married at Henshaw parsonage by Rev. May. There was a George Albert of Croton that died at 11 p.m. on Saturday of Asiatic cholera. Article can be found in the newspaper at New Castle, Lawrence Co., Pa.