Would anyone out there happen to know if the famous Jesse James had a sister named Clara?? Since the subject was posted, just thought I'd ask. Regards, stacy16001@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: PAULA <VERNE@pghmail.com> > To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/29/03 8:45:27 AM > Subject: [PABUTLER-L] Jesse James > > Can anyone tell me about the JESSE JAMES who appears on the 1840 Census for Muddy Creek Township? He appears beside names: WILLIAM MCGOWAN, A. MCGOWAN, A. MOORE, JOHN McCLIMONS, I. STEVENSON, JOSEPH DAVIS, JOHN MURPHY, THOMAS WILSON, and JOHN OLIVER. Is there any connection with the family of the Outlaw Jesse Woodson James (1847-April 3, 1882)? In the past I have heard stories told that the Outlaw Jesse James visited here in Butler County. One story came from the Ralston family near Slippery Rock, another came from the Harris family near Zelienople. Any JESSE JAMES experts out there? > > Alexander Franklin "Frank" James b. Jan 10, 1843 in Kearney, Missouri, married ANNA RALSTON, daughter of Samuel Ralston of Independence, Missouri. She was born Jan 25, 1853, and died July 7, 1944. > > A son of Jesse Woodson James, JESSE EDWARD JAMES b. Aug 31, 1875 in Nashville, Davidson Co. TN d. Mar 26, 1951 in Los Angeles, CA. married STELLA McGOWAN on Jan 24, 1900 in Kansas City, Jackson County, MO. > > Also, was there a local lodge of the KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN CIRCLE somewhere in Butler > County? > > Paula > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Addresses to subscribe and unsubscribe: > regular list: PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > digest mode: PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the BODY include only one word: subscribe or unsubscribe

Etta, Orphans Court J.D. MARSHALL was guardian of Susan M. WRIGHT, and S.L. STILLWAGON was guardian of Pearl Eva WRIGHT. I have been searching for information on this STILLWAGON family. Pearl Eva WRIGHT b. Mar 5, 1886, Renfrew, Butler County, PA married John T. SMITH in Slippery Rock in 1906. Pearl's parents were: Samuel WRIGHT b. Nov 7, 1843, probably Butler County, d. May 1, 1898 Butler County, PA, buried White Oak Springs Church, Connoquenessing, married Sept 28, 1878 to his SECOND wife Laura McGOWAN b. 1858 PA d. Mar 15, 1886, buried White Oak Springs Church. At Samuel's death, he left the 2 above mentioned minor daughters. Samuel's second wife, Laura, was the d/o John McGOWAN b. c 1821, and Susannah "Susie" (nee unknown) b. c 1824 in Susquehanna County, PA, d. April 13, 1904 in Slippery Rock Township, Butler County, and is buried in Butler. Some of Laura's siblings were: William McGOWAN b. c 1849 Marietta "Mary" McGOWAN b. c 1851 m. possibly Reuben Horace MCQUISTION "Susie" Malissa McGOWAN b. c 1860 "Nettie" Elmira P.? McGOWAN b. c 1866 m. Alonzo W. McCULLOUGH Elizabeth "Jane" McGOWAN b. c. 1846 Plummer W. McGOWAN b. 1875 Prospect On the 1880 Census this family is living in Prospect, PA. I don't know the parents of John McGOWAN b. 1821. Plummer McGOWAN never married, died age 56, and was a farmer in West Liberty, PA. The FIRST wife of Samuel WRIGHT, was CATHERINE A. McGOWAN b c. 1848 d. July 21, 1876, buried White Oak Springs Church, Connoquenessing, PA I believe she was the daughter of another JOHN McGOWAN from Whitestown, PA. b. c. 1800. Catherine's siblings were: George McGOWAN b.c 1825 m. Margaret MARSHALL Lyle "Lillie" McGOWAN m. LEVI FINNEY William McGOWAN m. Amanda SARVER Mary Jane McGOWAN m. John Bryson BEALES John Joseph McGOWAN m. Margaret BRYSON The children of Samuel WRIGHT and first wife Catherine A. McGOWAN were: Edward S. WRIGHT b. 1868 m. Alice B. Marstolf Lizzie Jane WRIGHT b. c 1870 Annie Cora WRIGHT b. c. 1875 m. Evan Jehu NIXON Catherine Belle WRIGHT b. c. 1876 m. J. W. MILLER Back to Samuel WRIGHT. His parents were David WRIGHT d. c 1849 living his widow, JANE ST. CLAIR b. c. 1822 d. Dec 26, 1893, and their 3 minor children: Samuel (or DAVID SAMUEL) WRIGHT William John WRIGHT b. Jan 29, 1846 Eleanor Emeline WRIGHT Jan 21, 1849 m. Enos POWELL A few years after the death of DAVID WRIGHT d. c. 1849, his widow JANE ST. CLAIR WRIGHT married widower WILLIAM McGOWAN b. 1811 d. 1883 Connoquenessing Township, Butler County, PA. There were 3 children from this union: Margaret Elizabeth MCGOWAN b. 1856 d. 1857 David D. McGOWAN who never married Robert K. McGOWAN b. Oct 1868 m. Sylvia Lauretta STEWART The first wife of WILLIAM McGOWAN b. 1811, was MARY BEAM b. c. 1806 and married about 1835. They had 10 children born between 1837-1851: George McGOWAN d. 1866 John McGOWAN James McGOWAN d. 1840 William McGOWAN d. 1861 Civil War Leonard McGOWAN d. 1845 Isaac McGOWAN Delilah McGOWAN Katherine McGOWAN d. 1871 m. Samuel HUGHES Calvin McGOWAN d. 1856 Marey Jane McGOWAN d. 1887 I hope this helps someone, and I would appreciate any help with these folks. Thanks. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etta Miller" <donegal@wononline.net> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Jesse James > Through the Stillwagons of Butler county I've been told one of the was shot > by the outlaw Jesse James.....again I don't think they have proof > > Etta > > "Character is the sum of the choices that a human being makes under > pressure." > ~~Robert McKee > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Addresses to subscribe and unsubscribe: > regular list: PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > digest mode: PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the BODY include only one word: subscribe or unsubscribe >

Through the Stillwagons of Butler county I've been told one of the was shot by the outlaw Jesse James.....again I don't think they have proof Etta "Character is the sum of the choices that a human being makes under pressure." ~~Robert McKee

Pam, On the Muddy Creek Township 1840 Census for Butler County PA: Jesse James is between 40-50 Head of House one male under 5 2 males between 5-10 3 males between 15-20 one female between 40-50 one female under 5 one female between 10-15 This is all I've been able to find on him so far. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: <psspa@juno.com> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] Jesse James > Paula > > What is the age of the Jesse James from Muddy Creek Twp? I have several > Jesse James in my tree. One was born Mar 13, 1818 and died Mar 14, 1885. > He was the son of Otha (Otho) James. I'm pretty sure he was born in > Armstrong Co but I don't have any record of where he lived when grown. > Could this be the Jesse James in the Muddy Creek Twp census? > > I also have a Jesse James that was born Aug 6, 1847 (same year as the > famous outlaw). He was the son of William James (brother of the Jesse > James born in 1818). This Jesse (born in 1847) was supposed to have died > in 1848 but there was a story in the family that he was the black sheep > and that they just said he died when he was a baby. There was also a > story in our family that the outlaw Jesse James did come to Butler to > visit relatives. I don't have any proof of this. > > Pam > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > pabutler@earthlink.net > To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > pabutler@earthlink.net >

Paula What is the age of the Jesse James from Muddy Creek Twp? I have several Jesse James in my tree. One was born Mar 13, 1818 and died Mar 14, 1885. He was the son of Otha (Otho) James. I'm pretty sure he was born in Armstrong Co but I don't have any record of where he lived when grown. Could this be the Jesse James in the Muddy Creek Twp census? I also have a Jesse James that was born Aug 6, 1847 (same year as the famous outlaw). He was the son of William James (brother of the Jesse James born in 1818). This Jesse (born in 1847) was supposed to have died in 1848 but there was a story in the family that he was the black sheep and that they just said he died when he was a baby. There was also a story in our family that the outlaw Jesse James did come to Butler to visit relatives. I don't have any proof of this. Pam

Can anyone tell me about the JESSE JAMES who appears on the 1840 Census for Muddy Creek Township? He appears beside names: WILLIAM MCGOWAN, A. MCGOWAN, A. MOORE, JOHN McCLIMONS, I. STEVENSON, JOSEPH DAVIS, JOHN MURPHY, THOMAS WILSON, and JOHN OLIVER. Is there any connection with the family of the Outlaw Jesse Woodson James (1847-April 3, 1882)? In the past I have heard stories told that the Outlaw Jesse James visited here in Butler County. One story came from the Ralston family near Slippery Rock, another came from the Harris family near Zelienople. Any JESSE JAMES experts out there? Alexander Franklin "Frank" James b. Jan 10, 1843 in Kearney, Missouri, married ANNA RALSTON, daughter of Samuel Ralston of Independence, Missouri. She was born Jan 25, 1853, and died July 7, 1944. A son of Jesse Woodson James, JESSE EDWARD JAMES b. Aug 31, 1875 in Nashville, Davidson Co. TN d. Mar 26, 1951 in Los Angeles, CA. married STELLA McGOWAN on Jan 24, 1900 in Kansas City, Jackson County, MO. Also, was there a local lodge of the KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN CIRCLE somewhere in Butler County? Paula

I searching for descendants of Pearce KILLY/KELLY/KELLY b. 1760 in NJ, m. Mehetebel HOWELL b. 1760 d. PA. I've located the following which matches my dates and names. This Pierce , age 82 [1798], could be my Pearce's son. Does anyone have any leads on this? 1880 Census Brady, Butler Co, PA Pierce KELLY age 82 b. PA Father Aron KELLY age 30 b. PA (fa-PA, Mo-PA) Laborer Sarah KELLY age 23 b. PA Wife Mary KELLY age 4 b, PA Dau William J KELLY age 1 b. PA Son Thanks in advance, Bruce

Would anyone out there happen to know if the census listing in the 1880 census for William Hoffman/ Harriet Hoffman, which has William listed as the sheriff, is the census for the Butler County prison? It has 12 or 13 individuals listed in this "household", all of which have different last names. Any ideas? If it is for the prison, how would you go about finding the records for one of the individuals listed? Thanks for your Help in Advance! Stacy Neff stacy16001@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

I could use a little help. A few years ago I was in contact (through this or a similar list) with a woman in Butler named "Sherry" who was working at updating a Collins Family History Book that was in the Butler Library. I would very much like to contact her again to discuss the status of her work, but emails to the old address bounce. Sherry, if you are on the list, I would appreciate it if you would contact me. Or if anyone else knows how I might contact Sherry, I would sure appreciate their letting me know. Thanks for any help. Dick Dahm < jrdgene@aol.com >

The May Butler County Pennsylvania Genealogical Society meeting will be held on Tuesday, May 13th beginning at 7pm at the Heritage Center museum, located at 119 West New Castle Street in Butler. Our program for this meeting will be a speaker from the LDS Family Resource Center library. They will provide us with great information on what types of microfilmed records are available, how to request and access these records and other methods of research. My apologies if you recieve this notice twice - I'm combining a couple different maillists. Hope to see you there! Joyce Rauschenberger Secretary

Thank you so much for your help. Beth Stuebgen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Morris" <bmom@rickadee.net> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] DEATH INDEX FOR BUTLER/ALLEGHENY CO., PA > Hello Beth, > Butler County has birth records from 1893 through 1905. They also have > delayed birth records. > Probably Allegheny County is about the same. I know they are not beyond > 1905. > My grandmother was born in 1896 in Allegheny County, but when I wrote for it > they said it wasn't there. However, her nephew in Pittsburgh went there and > found it for me. Her name was Elizabeth Augenstein and they had it Lizzie > Augustine or something like that. > Bev in Calif. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IAMBETH" <iambeth@attbi.com> > To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:01 AM > Subject: [PABUTLER-L] DEATH INDEX FOR BUTLER/ALLEGHENY CO., PA > > > > Does anyone know if there are "death indexes" for Butler Co. and Allegheny > Co., PA? > > > > Beth > > > > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > > To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > > pabutler@earthlink.net > > > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Addresses to subscribe and unsubscribe: > regular list: PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > digest mode: PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the BODY include only one word: subscribe or unsubscribe > >

Allegheny has birth and death records from 1870 to 1905--you can download the form at------- www.county.allegheny.pa.us/regwills/bd3.asp Sheri

Hello Beth, Butler County has birth records from 1893 through 1905. They also have delayed birth records. Probably Allegheny County is about the same. I know they are not beyond 1905. My grandmother was born in 1896 in Allegheny County, but when I wrote for it they said it wasn't there. However, her nephew in Pittsburgh went there and found it for me. Her name was Elizabeth Augenstein and they had it Lizzie Augustine or something like that. Bev in Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: "IAMBETH" <iambeth@attbi.com> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:01 AM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] DEATH INDEX FOR BUTLER/ALLEGHENY CO., PA > Does anyone know if there are "death indexes" for Butler Co. and Allegheny Co., PA? > > Beth > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > To contact Ed Book, List Maintainer, e-mail to: > pabutler@earthlink.net >

My husband Robert Pearce's grandfathers parents were Robert Thorn and Prudence Margaret Chambers both born in the early 1800 They lived around North Washington, Butler Co. Thank You Shirley L. Pearce

Does anyone know if there are "death indexes" for Butler Co. and Allegheny Co., PA? Beth

F.Y.I. Just a reminder about the National Genealogical Society's upcoming conference in Pittsburgh. Marybeth C. ================================================================== << 28-31 May NGS 2003 Conference in the States - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. For conference information and registration see: http://www.eshow2000.com/ngs/ >>

Hi Gloria -- Here are the Spithalers: Butler County, Forward Township, 1930 US Census Martin L. Spithaler, Head of Household, renter and radio owner, living on a farm. White male age 38. Currently married; first married at age 29. No advanced education; he reads and writes. He and both parents are Pennsylvania-born. He works as a home carpenter, and is currently working. He is a vet of WW I. Florence H. Spithaler is wife of the head of the house, white female, age 30, married, first married at age 22. She had no advanced education but can read and write; she and both parents are Pennsylvania-born. No occupation outside of the household. LaVerne L. Spithaler, son, is a white male age 7. He is single. Yes is entered for the question about advanced school or college. He and both parents are Pennsylvania-born. Ruth G. Spithaler, daughter, is a single white female age 6. Yes is entered for the question about advanced school or college. He and both parents are Pennsylvania-born. Irene V. Spithaler, daughter, is a single white female age 3 10/12. No is entered for the question about advanced school or college. He and both parents are Pennsylvania-born. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glorygirl" <GJWEISS@hargray.com> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:04 PM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] 1930 census look ups > If anyone has the 1930 census I have some families to look up for Butler Co. PA > > Heinrich Spithaler born 12/1888 & wife Josephine are living in Jackson Twp., Butler Co. in 1920 with son Fred age 10 > > Walter C. Spithaler born 11/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. died in Evans City, PA. & wife Sarah Catherine Ramsey b. 1/1895. They had children, Paul, Ralph, Glenn & Lois. Later had son, Raymond born 10/1933 died 7/1974 > > Martin L Spithaler born 6/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife Florence Viola Blum born 7/1899 had 3 children, Ruth, Irene & Laverne born 9/1922 died Zelienople 3/1988. They could of lived in Zelienople as Martin & Florence as well as son Laverne are buried in Zelienople Cemetery > > George W. Measel born 1866 Lancaster Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife Sophia Matilda Spithaler born 7/22/1885 in Connoquessing Twp., Butler Co. PA. where they also are buried-I am assuming that is where they were living. > > Russell Johnston 12/1898 died 12/1977 Mars, PA. & wife Matilda (Millie) Spithaler born 6/1898 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. They had son, Vernon R. > > Carl Wohlgemuth born 5/1885 married Amanda Spithaler born 10/1889 Forward Twp., Butler Co. They might have lived in Zelienople. > > Thanks for the help, > Gloria Weiss >

Hi Tim, This Russell D. Johnston has to be the one. Even though his wife's first name is Ella her middle initial is M. which I am betting is for Matilda, plus the birth ages are correct. Sure wonder where on earth that Martin is living. Anyways, I sure appreciate you checking this out for me. Thank you, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim & Una Anderson" <timuna@starpower.net> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [PABUTLER-L] 1930 census look ups > Gloria -- > I have checked Martin Spithaler in the Vet Hospital in Perryville, > MD. He had not arrived at the time of the 1930 Census. Moving on > to Mars Borough, I found many Johnstons, including the following > couple (let me know if these are not yours, please): > Russel D. Johnston, head household and homeowner (valued at $4200), > also a proud owner of a radio. He does not live on a farm. He is a > white male age 31, currently married and was first married at age > 25. He has no advanced education but is able to read and write. He > and both of his parents were Pennsylvania-born. English is spoken in > his household. He is a house painter and is actively employed as > such. > Ella M. Johnston is Russel's wife and lives in the same house. She > is a white female age 31, married first at age 25. She has no > advanced education but can read and write. She and both parents were > Pennsylvania-born. No occupation stated. > _____________________ > Tim Anderson > Gaithersburg, Maryland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glorygirl" <GJWEISS@hargray.com> > To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:04 PM > Subject: [PABUTLER-L] 1930 census look ups > > > > If anyone has the 1930 census I have some families to look up for > Butler Co. PA > > > > Heinrich Spithaler born 12/1888 & wife Josephine are living in > Jackson Twp., Butler Co. in 1920 with son Fred age 10 > > > > Walter C. Spithaler born 11/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. died > in Evans City, PA. & wife Sarah Catherine Ramsey b. 1/1895. They > had children, Paul, Ralph, Glenn & Lois. Later had son, Raymond > born 10/1933 died 7/1974 > > > > Martin L Spithaler born 6/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife > Florence Viola Blum born 7/1899 had 3 children, Ruth, Irene & > Laverne born 9/1922 died Zelienople 3/1988. They could of lived in > Zelienople as Martin & Florence as well as son Laverne are buried in > Zelienople Cemetery > > > > George W. Measel born 1866 Lancaster Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife > Sophia Matilda Spithaler born 7/22/1885 in Connoquessing Twp., > Butler Co. PA. where they also are buried-I am assuming that is > where they were living. > > > > Russell Johnston 12/1898 died 12/1977 Mars, PA. & wife Matilda > (Millie) Spithaler born 6/1898 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. They > had son, Vernon R. > > > > Carl Wohlgemuth born 5/1885 married Amanda Spithaler born 10/1889 > Forward Twp., Butler Co. They might have lived in Zelienople. > > > > Thanks for the help, > > Gloria Weiss > > > > > ==== PABUTLER Mailing List ==== > Addresses to subscribe and unsubscribe: > regular list: PABUTLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > digest mode: PABUTLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the BODY include only one word: subscribe or unsubscribe >

Gloria -- I have checked Martin Spithaler in the Vet Hospital in Perryville, MD. He had not arrived at the time of the 1930 Census. Moving on to Mars Borough, I found many Johnstons, including the following couple (let me know if these are not yours, please): Russel D. Johnston, head household and homeowner (valued at $4200), also a proud owner of a radio. He does not live on a farm. He is a white male age 31, currently married and was first married at age 25. He has no advanced education but is able to read and write. He and both of his parents were Pennsylvania-born. English is spoken in his household. He is a house painter and is actively employed as such. Ella M. Johnston is Russel's wife and lives in the same house. She is a white female age 31, married first at age 25. She has no advanced education but can read and write. She and both parents were Pennsylvania-born. No occupation stated. _____________________ Tim Anderson Gaithersburg, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glorygirl" <GJWEISS@hargray.com> To: <PABUTLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:04 PM Subject: [PABUTLER-L] 1930 census look ups > If anyone has the 1930 census I have some families to look up for Butler Co. PA > > Heinrich Spithaler born 12/1888 & wife Josephine are living in Jackson Twp., Butler Co. in 1920 with son Fred age 10 > > Walter C. Spithaler born 11/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. died in Evans City, PA. & wife Sarah Catherine Ramsey b. 1/1895. They had children, Paul, Ralph, Glenn & Lois. Later had son, Raymond born 10/1933 died 7/1974 > > Martin L Spithaler born 6/1892 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife Florence Viola Blum born 7/1899 had 3 children, Ruth, Irene & Laverne born 9/1922 died Zelienople 3/1988. They could of lived in Zelienople as Martin & Florence as well as son Laverne are buried in Zelienople Cemetery > > George W. Measel born 1866 Lancaster Twp., Butler Co. PA & wife Sophia Matilda Spithaler born 7/22/1885 in Connoquessing Twp., Butler Co. PA. where they also are buried-I am assuming that is where they were living. > > Russell Johnston 12/1898 died 12/1977 Mars, PA. & wife Matilda (Millie) Spithaler born 6/1898 Forward Twp., Butler Co. PA. They had son, Vernon R. > > Carl Wohlgemuth born 5/1885 married Amanda Spithaler born 10/1889 Forward Twp., Butler Co. They might have lived in Zelienople. > > Thanks for the help, > Gloria Weiss >

> hello, I am placing a message on your Butler list, as I am seeking to find > > the brother to my husband's grandfather, PATRICK MURRAY. Patrick born > c.1900 in Pennsylvania. Son of Patrick and Bridget who resided in Fayette County in the 20's..... Patrick resided with his brother, Thomas & Irene Murray's household, in Mars, Butler county in 1930.He was single then. He was a crane > inspector at the coal mine; his brother was a coal miner. Well, it was > advised to me by LDS that I try going forward > on the genealogy (find his offspring) since I got the naturalization > papers for his father, Patrick 0 and alas, just "Ireland" > is listed. Patrick immigrated 1881 arrived NY and then to Pa. > Looking to make some strides in this family; awaiting some church records > where his brother was married. > If you feel there is a connection; drop me an email. Patrick's known > siblings:Jim,Tom,Michael.Mary,Margaret,Bridget,Ellen > and Catherine- born between 1884-1903. Please contace me off line at > DeanR@Reinauer.com > thanks > Dean Reinauer Murray >