This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vansant, Vanzant, Vinzant, Venzant, Vanzandt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DaB.2ACE/851.939.1 Message Board Post: I'm also researching Capt. John. I'm trying to learn as much as possible about his first marriage and any children he may have had with that wife, who I believe was Polly Bowen. Linda says that Capt. John had a child Joel Vansant born 1776 and that "Polly may have died because John left PA after Joel was born and moved to NJ. It is said John B. originally came from Middlesex Co. before moving to Bucks." I looking for the parents of four siblings born between 1752 and 1766 who moved to KY from PA about 1789. Two of them mention being from Bucks Co. and one mentions being born in Philadephia (Co. or City?). What is interesting is that the three boys (John, James, and George) appear suddenly about 1775 or 1776 in Bedford Co., PA--without parents. They entered Rev. War service there and served together for many years. There was also a Peter Vansant in the same unit who might have been a fourth brother or a first cousin. After the War, the three brothers lived together in Huntingdon Co., PA (formed from Bedford Co.) About 1789, two brothers (John and James) moved to KY with at least seven other Vansant family members--including John's sister Susan, John's daughters Nancy and Elizabeth and an older adult named Mary Vansant who had three young girls with her. My theory is that the four siblings might all be children of Capt. John and Polly Bowen. I'd particularly like to know if they got married before 1752 when John said he was born.

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Please don't continue the Gateway Messages! They are time-consuming and serve very little purpose to MOST of the people researching in Bucks County. Many thanks!

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EF589B6157CCC3621DA44F89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see how the gateway messages are really any different than those posted directly to the list. That's just my oppinion. Kelly Alan Eckert wrote: > Yes, I agree. The Gateway messages are inconvenient and cumbersome. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shirley Ramos <slramos@pacbell.net> > To: <PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:18 AM > Subject: [PABUCKS-L] messages > > > yes, please get rid of the gatewayed messages.........I am ready to > > unsubscribe from several lists because of them. > > Shirley > > > > > > ==== PABUCKS Mailing List ==== > > Contact Listowner ar judjack@rocketmail.com > > Bucks Co Surnames http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks/surnamepageA.html > > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > > Bucks Co. PAGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks > > Bucks Co at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty > > Genealogy of Pa http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6508/ > > > > ==== PABUCKS Mailing List ==== > Contact Listowner ar judjack@rocketmail.com > Bucks Co Surnames http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks/surnamepageA.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Bucks Co. PAGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks > Bucks Co at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty > Genealogy of Pa http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6508/ --------------EF589B6157CCC3621DA44F89 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ksd2.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Kelly S. Decker Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ksd2.vcf" begin:vcard n:Decker;Kelly tel;work:610-758-3990 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:ksd2@lehigh.edu fn:Kelly Decker end:vcard --------------EF589B6157CCC3621DA44F89--

Yes, I agree. The Gateway messages are inconvenient and cumbersome. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Ramos <slramos@pacbell.net> To: <PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:18 AM Subject: [PABUCKS-L] messages > yes, please get rid of the gatewayed messages.........I am ready to > unsubscribe from several lists because of them. > Shirley > > > ==== PABUCKS Mailing List ==== > Contact Listowner ar judjack@rocketmail.com > Bucks Co Surnames http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks/surnamepageA.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Bucks Co. PAGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks > Bucks Co at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty > Genealogy of Pa http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6508/ >

Choosing to cancel is a personal decision. Since the request appeared during an extended discussion of gatewayed messages, I'll offer my own perspective of those: I'm glad to have the gatewayed messages. I joined the Bucks County list in hopes of learning about my Bucks County ancestry. My great-great-great grandparents (Charles Morrow and Rachel Morton) apparently married in Bucks County in roughly 1802/3. Several of their children were born there, possibly including my great-great-grandfather, Marshall Morrow (in 1813). Charles was drafted for War of 1812 service from Bridgepoint, near Doylestown. About 1816/7, the family moved on to eastern Ohio. In about three years on this list, I've learned nothing new about my family through it. That's discouraging. Now that those posting to the Bucks County query board are also passed through this mailing list, there has been an increase in mail -- but this list remains far less active than the major lists to which I belong. The increased mail means we have more access to others with Bucks county connections and improves the chances of finding information of value in my own research. Of course, it also increases the messages that add nothing to my research. But they're easy to delete, too. The increased potential for help is a worthy benefit for the low price of deleting a few more messages. As to the cancellation, announcing your decision to the list is pointless. All rootsweb lists use the same subscribe and unsubscribe conventions, which are not served by sending a message to the list you wish to join or leave. Type just the single word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" (without the quote marks) in the subject line and on the first line of the message area. Do not type anything else in the message area; if you use a signature file, you should shut it off for this message. For individual messages: xxx-L-request@rootsweb.com (for example PABUCKS-L-request@rootsweb.com) For digest format, where messages are grouped into one e-mail: xxx-D-request@rootsweb.com (for example PABUCKS-D-request@rootsweb.com) The master page for rootsweb lists, showing the full range available is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Duncan Morrow ----- Original Message ----- From: <LHammer98@aol.com> To: <PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: [PABUCKS-L] Cancel > Cancel

There is a John Wimmer listed on this page in the Pennsylvania Digital Archives for the Revolutionary War: <A HREF="http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveItems&ArchiveID=13&FL=W&FID=601722&LID=601821">http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveItems& ArchiveID=13&FL=W&FID=601722&LID=601821</A> http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveItems& ArchiveID=13&FL=W&FID=601722&LID=601821 Gene Bradfield <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/genealogy/users/b/r/a/Eugene-R-Bradfield/">The Ancestors of Eugene R. Bradfield</A> http://www.familytreemaker.com/genealogy/users/b/r/a/Eugene-R-Bradfield/ ANCESTORS Shenandoah Co., VA, Hardy Co., WV - Barb, Bradfield, Caplinger, Coffman, Combs, Crabill, Dellinger, Funkhouser, Gano, Hamman, Heishman, Helsley, Hottle, Layman, Maphis, Naugle, Pence, Pitman, Richman, Sager, Shipp, Sine, Stultz, Wetzel, Wimer, Wolverton Allegheny, Ashe & Wilkes Counties, NC, Grayson & Smyth Counties, VA, Greene, Johnson & Sullivan Counties, TN - Adams, Cormony, Cox, Dickson, Ellis, Fuget, Grayson, Ivey, Johnson, Landreth, Lawrence, Loggins, McDaniel, Price, Richardson, Robinson, Sizemore, Smothers, Sullivan, Weaver

Since there seems to be an issue with the gatewayed message. The first in the year or so the messages have been gatewayed to the list. I'm going to put it to a vote as to whether we keep them or not. PLEASE DO NOT SENT TO THE LIST YOUR VOTE. This is going to generate a lot of mail with close to three hundred subscriber. Talk about a lot of mail that would really cause some unhappy people. True be told I really don't need the extra mail myself but just sent your response to me at judjack@rocketmail.com. We will end the voting on Saturday morning the 22nd. Then go with what the majority wants. If it is decided to stop them we will and if it is decided to keep them we will. Judy List Manager ===== Bucks Co. PAGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabucks Homepage http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/index.htm __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DaB.2ACE/1958.1.1 Message Board Post: The Cravens came from Bucks Co., PA about mid/late 1700's into Lincoln, Loudoun Co., VA. In the 1820 Census, Lincoln was evidently a part of Waterford. I believe Mahlon was the son of Thomas . . . but I don't have my notes in front of me. Will need to check on that for you. Thank you for your assistance on my Issachar. He married Hannah d/o James and Antje(?). They married about 1787 and removed from PA to Loudoun Co. about 1788. Julie

I am a listowner of another list and I don't know how to disconnect the gateway to the Boards from the Lists. It may not be an option. All the lists are now gatewayed automatically. I'm sure the listowner of this list is trying to find out just how to disconnect. One way to look at it though is that you are getting a link to a message from someone who is probably not on this list and that opens up new avenues of connecting to someone researching the same family. As to unsubscribing, the folks who want to and who keep posting messages to the list, email PABUCKS-L-request@rootsweb.com with only the word unsubscribe in the body of the email. You will then be automatically unsubbed by the RootsWeb servers. Sending a message to the list with the word cancel, etc. in the body isn't going to do anything. ===== Kathi Jones-Hudson mdcat.geo@yahoo.com Truly Genealogy Addicted http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4395 Kat's Kreations: PSP Tubes and Snowglobes http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/cut/567/index.html __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/

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Revolutionary War, could someone tell me of a site that can be searched for the above name or look up the above name for me if the have the listing of people who served. Philip was born in 1760 and would not have been drafted till 1778 or later, of course he could have enlisted. Philip was suppose to have lived in Bucks Co. at the time..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DaB.2ACE/128.3744.3924.1 Message Board Post: Yes re BUCKS. No re the rest but I will watch for the names. Bye, Art

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DaB.2ACE/128.3744.3923.1 Message Board Post: Fred, I will take a look. Send me your email addr. I am at euclid2@email.com Bye, Art

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robert Crouthamel Hendricks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DaB.2ACE/2870.3568.3570 Message Board Post: To: Tom Crouthamel, Sr. Can you provide any info re children of Fenton Fisher Crouthamel, PA, a dcecendant of Andrea Crouthamel Particularly interested in name of mother of Mabel Crouthamel Cooley. Bob

yes, please get rid of the gatewayed messages.........I am ready to unsubscribe from several lists because of them. Shirley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DaB.2ACE/128.3744.3924 Message Board Post: Arthur: Just happened to think of something else. I noticed the term "Bucks" in the heading of your query. Does this happen to mean Bucks Co., PA? If yes, do you happen to have any records about th Brown family? I trace my mom's ancestry back to Bucks Co. One George Brown, b 1643 moved to Bucks Co., PA 1679. Married Mercy Wright same time. They owned property on Delaware River in Bucks Co. Supposedly land was next to that owned by William Penn. George and Mercy parented 15 children, 8 of whom survived to adulthood. Their oldest boy, J. Elias Brown, b 1681 was the father of John J Brown Sr., b about 1710. John Sr. was the father of John J. Brown Jr. Sr. moved to Lewis Co. (W)VA about 1756 and then to Lewis Co. about 1783. John Jr., b about 1764 was the father of THomas Brown, b 1793 in Lewis Co. Thomas was the father of William Harrison Brown, b 1830, Lewis Co. William was the father of John Haze Brown, b 1879 in Salem WV. John was my grandfather. Do you have any connection! s to these? Thank you Fred from MN

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DaB.2ACE/128.3744.3923 Message Board Post: Arthur: Do any of your Trubys connect to the Stalnaker line? I have an Elizabeth Truby b about 1737 in Randolph Co. (W)VA who married a Jaco Stalnaker about 1757. I show that Elizabeth's father was one John Truby who supposedly was born about 1684 in VA. Nothing more. If you ever find a reputable connection to the Stalnakers and/or beyond Elizabeth and John, I would love to know. Thanks Fred from MN

I have hit a wall with this surname of Grow. I haven't been able to find the parentage of Benjamin Grow. Below is all of the information that I have on this family line. Descendants of Benjamin Grow Generation No. 1 1. BENJAMIN1 GROW was born Abt. 1812 in PA, and died March 27, 1894 in Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA. He married SUSANNA BECKER Bef. 1839. She was born 1814 in PA, and died October 07, 1886 in Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA. More About BENJAMIN GROW and SUSANNA BECKER: Marriage: Bef. 1839 Children of BENJAMIN GROW and SUSANNA BECKER are: i. ?2 GROW, b. Bet. 1835 - 1840. 2. ii. WILLIAM GROW, b. Abt. 1839, PA. 3. iii. HENRY GROW, b. August 16, 1840, Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA; d. January 16, 1893, Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. iv. SAMUEL GROW, b. Abt. 1844; d. December 21, 1862, Fredericksburg, Virginia. v. NATHAN H GROW, b. Abt. 1846; m. SALLIE N ?, Abt. 1862, PA. More About NATHAN GROW and SALLIE ?: Marriage: Abt. 1862, PA 4. vi. JOHNATHAN GROW, b. April 07, 1848, PA; d. December 23, 1912, PA. vii. ELIZABETH GROW, b. Abt. 1851. 5. viii. REUBEN MORRIS GROW, b. January 1853, Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA; d. January 11, 1914, Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. ix. STEPHEN GROW, b. July 12, 1858, Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA; d. March 24, 1859, Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 GROW (BENJAMIN1) was born Abt. 1839 in PA. He married ANNA MARIE MARTZ November 07, 1865 in Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA, daughter of JOSEPH MARTZ and LAVINA ?. She was born July 1841 in PA, and died November 19, 1911. More About WILLIAM GROW and ANNA MARTZ: Marriage: November 07, 1865, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA Children of WILLIAM GROW and ANNA MARTZ are: i. SARAH J3 GROW, b. April 12, 1863, Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA; d. July 31, 1912; m. ANDREW JACKSON SMITH; b. January 29, 1861; d. February 18, 1914, East Mauch Chunck, Carbon County, PA. ii. MARY A GROW, b. 1867. iii. IDA S GROW, b. April 16, 1876, PA; d. April 10, 1972, PA; m. AGNEW MERTZ; b. January 1872, PA; d. 1958, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA. 3. HENRY2 GROW (BENJAMIN1) was born August 16, 1840 in Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA, and died January 16, 1893 in Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. He married SALLY ANN COCHRAN November 14, 1869, daughter of LENHARD COCHRAN and DIANNAH ?. She was born June 27, 1852 in PA, and died May 25, 1922 in Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. More About HENRY GROW and SALLY COCHRAN: Marriage: November 14, 1869 Children of HENRY GROW and SALLY COCHRAN are: i. EMMA A3 GROW. ii. JOHN GROW. iii. CAROLINE GROW, b. October 25, 1872; d. August 20, 1873. iv. ELMER SYLVESTER GROW, b. July 16, 1874, Carbon County, PA; d. August 1968, Carbon County, PA; m. ELLA L WEBB; b. 1877, Carbon County, PA; d. 1965, Carbon County, PA. v. MINNIE GROW, b. September 1885; m. ? HEBERLING. 4. JOHNATHAN2 GROW (BENJAMIN1) was born April 07, 1848 in PA, and died December 23, 1912 in PA. He married ELIZABETH FREDERIC December 29, 1870 in Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA. She was born September 29, 1850 in PA, and died December 25, 1921 in PA. More About JOHNATHAN GROW and ELIZABETH FREDERIC: Marriage: December 29, 1870, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA Children of JOHNATHAN GROW and ELIZABETH FREDERIC are: i. MISSOURI E3 GROW, b. 1872. ii. ALBERT D A GROW, b. December 31, 1874; d. February 20, 1949. iii. CORDELIA GROW, b. 1876. iv. MARY M GROW, b. September 1878; m. GEORGE A WALCH; b. Abt. 1881, PA; d. PA. v. JEFFERSON GROW, b. March 19, 1884, PA; d. June 29, 1936, PA; m. HATTIE LUELLA REICHARD, April 29, 1916, J. H. Kuder, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA; b. March 21, 1893, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA; d. September 01, 1963. More About JEFFERSON GROW and HATTIE REICHARD: Marriage: April 29, 1916, J. H. Kuder, Mahoning Township, Carbon County, PA vi. MINUS E GROW, b. September 25, 1890, PA; d. December 14, 1909, PA. 5. REUBEN MORRIS2 GROW (BENJAMIN1) was born January 1853 in Mahoning Valley, Carbon County, PA, and died January 11, 1914 in Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. He married MARY MAGDALENE SCHWARTZ March 09, 1875 in Lehigton, Carbon County, Pennsylvania, daughter of JOHN SCHWARTZ and MAGDALENA NEILLAWER. She was born February 21, 1855 in PA, and died April 28, 1917 in Lehighton, Carbon County, PA. More About REUBEN GROW and MARY SCHWARTZ: Marriage: March 09, 1875, Lehigton, Carbon County, Pennsylvania Children of REUBEN GROW and MARY SCHWARTZ are: i. GEORGE3 GROW. ii. CARRIE GROW, m. ? DERR. iii. HENRY F GROW, b. 1876. iv. MINNIE GROW, m. ? MERR. v. THOMAS S GROW, b. 1885; d. Aft. 1943; m. DAISY J ?; b. 1887. vi. JAMES ALBERT GROW, b. April 01, 1890, Lehighton, Carbon County, PA; d. January 22, 1941, Allentown Hospital, Allentown Lehigh County PA; m. GERTRUDE E. SNYDER, July 15, 1919, Lehigh Co., PA by Rev. Kistler; b. September 14, 1896, Catasaqua, Lehigh Co. PA; d. 1983. More About JAMES GROW and GERTRUDE SNYDER: Marriage: July 15, 1919, Lehigh Co., PA by Rev. Kistler vii. MISSOURI L GROW, b. 1877. viii. ROBERT E GROW, b. 1879; m. MARGARET G. KERSCHBAUM; b. 1882, New York. Ivana

I have hit a wall with this family and have been unable to connect it. This Fry family appeared to move around. Descendants of Henry Fry Generation No. 1 1. HENRY1 FRY was born December 28, 1818, and died December 12, 1889 in Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. He married LOVINA ?. She was born May 1820, and died February 01, 1904 in Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. Children of HENRY FRY and LOVINA ? are: i. HARRY2 FRY. ii. CATHARINE FRY, m. ? BERGENSTOCK. iii. PETER FRY, d. December 18, 1930. 2. iv. ABRAHAM FRY, b. March 05, 1847; d. February 08, 1927. v. HENRY REINHEIMER, b. February 04, 1848; d. January 31, 1927. vi. ELIZABETH FRY, b. Abt. 1853; m. ? HEFFELFINGER. vii. CHARLES M FRY, b. Abt. 1860; d. November 02, 1925. viii. IDA FRY, b. Abt. 1862; m. E. G. SABOLT. 3. ix. FRANKLIN W. FRY, b. February 17, 1865; d. June 29, 1931, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. Generation No. 2 2. ABRAHAM2 FRY (HENRY1) was born March 05, 1847, and died February 08, 1927. He married ANNA L.. She was born September 11, 1855, and died May 05, 1909. Child of ABRAHAM FRY and ANNA L. is: i. HARRY ORLANDO3 FRY, b. January 10, 1889; d. July 23, 1895. 3. FRANKLIN W.2 FRY (HENRY1) was born February 17, 1865, and died June 29, 1931 in Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. He married AMANDA ELIZABETH FIRING September 29, 1882 in Pennsylvania, daughter of CORNELIUS FIRING and MARY LEASE. She was born April 14, 1865 in Montgomery Co. P.A., and died December 01, 1944 in Allentown, P.A.. More About FRANKLIN FRY and AMANDA FIRING: Marriage: September 29, 1882, Pennsylvania Children of FRANKLIN FRY and AMANDA FIRING are: i. FRANKLIN3 FRY. ii. PETER H. FRY, b. October 10, 1883; d. January 13, 1929. iii. MARY ANN FRY, b. 1894, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; d. 1980, Allentown, P.A.; m. (1) JAMES F. MARX; b. 1893; d. 1960, Pennsylvania; m. (2) GEORGE KRATZER, June 17, 1911, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; b. Abt. 1890, Lehighton, Carbon County, PA; d. Bef. 1928. More About GEORGE KRATZER and MARY FRY: Marriage: June 17, 1911, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania iv. GEORGE W FRY, b. 1898, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; d. October 03, 1993, Cedarbrook's Fountain Hill Annex, Pennsylvania; m. MILDRED M NAGLE, Abt. 1922; b. 1901, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; d. September 25, 1993, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. More About GEORGE FRY and MILDRED NAGLE: Marriage: Abt. 1922 v. ABRAHAM FRY, b. June 07, 1904, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; d. December 12, 1980, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; m. MABEL S MAUSER, October 01, 1925, St. Marks Reformed Church, Allentown, Pennsylvania, By Rev. C. D. Kressley; b. November 18, 1907, Allentown, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania; d. June 23, 1993, Allentown Osteopathic Medical Center. More About ABRAHAM FRY and MABEL MAUSER: Marriage: October 01, 1925, St. Marks Reformed Church, Allentown, Pennsylvania, By Rev. C. D. Kressley Ivana