Thanks Alan Jim Walter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: PABUCKS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 44 Today's Topics: 1. Bucks His. Soc. (Alan Buckingham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:28:15 -0400 From: "Alan Buckingham" <[email protected]> Subject: [PABUCKS] Bucks His. Soc. To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded another 10 pages of the book "Papers Read Before the Historical Society of Bucks County Vol. 1". This is pages 232-241. Sorry it's been a couple of weeks since I worked on this, but I will try to keep it more regular from now on. If you are interested the book is at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.13/500 - Release Date: 10/26/2006 ------------------------------ To contact the PABUCKS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PABUCKS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PABUCKS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 44 **************************************

Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded another 10 pages of the book "Papers Read Before the Historical Society of Bucks County Vol. 1". This is pages 232-241. Sorry it's been a couple of weeks since I worked on this, but I will try to keep it more regular from now on. If you are interested the book is at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.13/500 - Release Date: 10/26/2006

interesting, thanks, Andrea

Hello Andrea and those on the list. I'm afraid that someone may have misinformed you as to the meaning of the -tje ending. It does not mean "dau. of". It is simply the diminutive meaning something like "little". English also has them although they don't always mean "little". cook, cookie finger, fingy Rick, Ricky. Mike, Mikey, Incidentally there is no real English equivalent to the sound "tje" that you found in Dutch. It is called a palatalized "t" (there are several levels of palatalization which I won't go into here, palatalization was half of my Master's degree in Linguistics). It is sort of like a very light "tch". Of some interest is that Afrikaans, which is derived from Dutch, uses "tjie" which sounds like "k" so you get words like: kook, kootjie (cook and little tidbits of food) kaart, kaartjie (map and ticket) I know someone who did her whole thesis on Afrikaans diminutives (which are very interesting to linguists, but not to genealogists). Also in diminutives you get the ending "dje". the sounds t and d are formed the same in the mouth except with "d" the vocal cords vibrate and in "t" they don't. I won't try to explain what that sounds like. So I can imagine how someone may think that the "tje" means "dau. of" in the roughest sense in that it means "litte x" but has nothing to do with daughter. Most nouns if they can be made into something smaller or cute can take a diminutive ending, but it doesn't mean anything other than that. Things get a bit more complicated in Dutch names as shortened versions of names tend to favour the last syllable (Catryntje --> Tryntje) so names like the following may appear (spelling aside, but you get the picture): Conrad --> Radie Matthias --> Theissen Hendrik --> Dirk (the switch of r and i is called methathesis) Margaret --> Garettje and Gretchen (a bit of metathesis here again) Marinus --> Rienie Wilemmina --> Minie Then there is the obvious Elizabeth in English which gives us Betty and shows that English used to do the same thing in its past. Other names may have a more obscure origin. I know someone named Sanet which is a mystery to me (and she's not the only Sanet around). I also know an Anina but I've forgotten that one. So when you see these dimunitives think "t", think "tch", think "k" and you might get closer to the full Christian name if the person (male or female) was given a full Christian name, which is or was not only the case. Michel

Barb, Catch Rt 113 (near Souderton) west through Souderton. Approx. 1/2 mile west of Souderton, 113 intersects the Cowpath Rd. Right (north) on Cowpath for about 1/2 mile (past Telford Pike) , Indian Creek Church is on the right and the cemetery adjoins. Glenn Landis ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [PABUCKS] Indian Creek Cemetery, Telford > Could someone give me directions to Indian Creek Cemetery in Telford? > I'll > be coming north on Rt. 309. > > Thanks very much, > Barb > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could someone give me directions to Indian Creek Cemetery in Telford? I'll be coming north on Rt. 309. Thanks very much, Barb

I just wanted to point out a little info, the tje part of the name was a dutch ending for daughter. I have Dutch ancestry and all the girls have that at the end of their names. It would kinda of be translated Cathrine daughter of Hagewout. Andrea ----- Original Message ---- From: E Johnson <[email protected]> To: PABUCKS <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:24:12 AM Subject: [PABUCKS] Old Bucks baptisms Who were the parents of Catryntje HAGEWOUT?? Earlier generations of HAGEWOUTs had lived near Staten Island. Catryntje (or, Catherine, Tryntje) HAGEWOUT must have been born by about 1737. She married Peter BENNET. They baptized three children, as recorded in the records of North-Southampton and Neshaminy-Bensalem Dutch Churches: 1. Aaltje BENNET, baptized on 22 February 1756; 2. Leffert BENNET, baptized on 28 May 1758; 3. Sarah BENNET, baptized on 12 October 1760. What became of Peter BENNET and Catryntje HAGEWOUT? Were there other children at another location? Other HAGEWOUT baptisms in these same churches in Bucks County were: Jacob HAGEWOUT, whose wife was Johanna (Hannah) VANDERGRIFT. They had: 1. Anna, baptized on 21 April 1737; 2. Aeltie, baptized on 21 June 1741; 3. Rachel, baptized on 6 June 1744. Joost (Jacob) VAN PELT and his wife Aaltje HAGEWOUT, daughter of Pieter HAGEWOUT and his wife, Dirkje EGBERTS, of Staten Island (NY), had: Daniel VAN PELT, bapt 3 May 1730 --Witnesses: Hendrick KROESE & his wife Elsie. --One Hendrick KROESE was a witness to the will of Pieter HAGEWOUT, who died in Richmond County NY in 1716. Jacob BENNET and Derke HAGEWOT had: Jenneke BENNET, bapt 9 Oct. 1737. -- This Derke HAGEWOT was probably the daughter of Egbert HAGEWOUT, whose wife's name I also need (need Derkje's mother's name); One further note: I find no info for Isaac HAGEWOUT, son of Pieter Pieters HAGEWOUT and Dirkje EGBERTS. Did he also come down to Bucks County?? So, back to my question, Who are the parents of Catryntje HAGEWOUT, whose husband was Peter BENNET?? Thanks Very Much! Liz J ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Alan! Love, Linda --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Does this name interpret or is it interchangeable with some Anglicized name? I've seen it often in my family and wonder if the name would also be known as something else? Linda Huff Muessig

Norma! Thanks so much for your reply and info. I hope to eventually find someone connected to Joseph and Mary Ann, but its people like yourself that keep me searching. Thanks again If I can be of any help to you with the Dyers let me know. Bev [email protected]

Who were the parents of Catryntje HAGEWOUT?? Earlier generations of HAGEWOUTs had lived near Staten Island. Catryntje (or, Catherine, Tryntje) HAGEWOUT must have been born by about 1737. She married Peter BENNET. They baptized three children, as recorded in the records of North-Southampton and Neshaminy-Bensalem Dutch Churches: 1. Aaltje BENNET, baptized on 22 February 1756; 2. Leffert BENNET, baptized on 28 May 1758; 3. Sarah BENNET, baptized on 12 October 1760. What became of Peter BENNET and Catryntje HAGEWOUT? Were there other children at another location? Other HAGEWOUT baptisms in these same churches in Bucks County were: Jacob HAGEWOUT, whose wife was Johanna (Hannah) VANDERGRIFT. They had: 1. Anna, baptized on 21 April 1737; 2. Aeltie, baptized on 21 June 1741; 3. Rachel, baptized on 6 June 1744. Joost (Jacob) VAN PELT and his wife Aaltje HAGEWOUT, daughter of Pieter HAGEWOUT and his wife, Dirkje EGBERTS, of Staten Island (NY), had: Daniel VAN PELT, bapt 3 May 1730 --Witnesses: Hendrick KROESE & his wife Elsie. --One Hendrick KROESE was a witness to the will of Pieter HAGEWOUT, who died in Richmond County NY in 1716. Jacob BENNET and Derke HAGEWOT had: Jenneke BENNET, bapt 9 Oct. 1737. -- This Derke HAGEWOT was probably the daughter of Egbert HAGEWOUT, whose wife's name I also need (need Derkje's mother's name); One further note: I find no info for Isaac HAGEWOUT, son of Pieter Pieters HAGEWOUT and Dirkje EGBERTS. Did he also come down to Bucks County?? So, back to my question, Who are the parents of Catryntje HAGEWOUT, whose husband was Peter BENNET?? Thanks Very Much! Liz J

Bev, I have not found any Dyer mentioned in Davis' "History of Bucks Co.", Vol. #3 which is the only one of the 3 volumes that is indexed. I did, however, find a Charles Dyer in Martindales "History of Byberry and Moreland". Charles was a preacher and taught school in the village of Somerton in 1797. He taught school until 1846 at a salary of $200 dollars per annum. He was much esteemed as a good teacher. My Bucks Co. family are the Reeds who married into the Dyer family but unfortunately I do not have any further knowledge. Norma Stilwell, Researcher, Bucks List

Hi Jerry! I am researching my Dyer family in Bucks Co. and I have found information that Joseph and Mary Ann Dyer had a lg. farm on Byberry Rd. Would you have any information about this family. Joseph died in 1815 and left a will. I think there were like 8 children. I am interested in Philip son of Joseph and Mary Ann. I would be grateful for info you may have on this family. Thanks so much for your time. Bev [email protected]

Hi Nancy I am researching my Dyer family of Bucks Co. I am trying to locate any information on Joseph and Mary Ann Dyer who lived on Byberry road.In your research have you ever come across anything on this family? I would be grateful to you for anything you may know about any of them. Thank you for your time. Bev dyer Ackley [email protected]

NANCY, THERE IS ALSO A SECTION CALLED "BYBERRY" ON BYBERRY ROAD JUST EAST OF DAVISVILLE RD. IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. JERRY Byberry is a suburb of Philadelphia adjacent to both Montgomery County at the bottom of County Line road that divides Bucks County and Montgomery County and Feasterville in Bucks County. The cross roads are Byberry and Bustleton Pike. Back in the day it was zone 16 of Philadelphia. Nancy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Byberry is a suburb of Philadelphia adjacent to both Montgomery County at the bottom of County Line road that divides Bucks County and Montgomery County and Feasterville in Bucks County. The cross roads are Byberry and Bustleton Pike. Back in the day it was zone 16 of Philadelphia. Nancy

Listers, I am looking for information on Emily VANDEGRIFT (born c. 1796) md. to Benjamin SNYDER; also on Franklin Pierce VANDEGRIFT, Sr., both of whom (from Philadelphia & Bucks Counties, PA) seem to have some connection to my VANDEGRIFT lines. I would be grateful to anyone who could shed light on the parentage of either Emily or Franklin. Howard Howard Speck [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You.

1930, has no separate listing for Byberry, but Wikipedia says it's a neighborhood in Philadelphia. Here's Philadelphia Co: Exact Search Results - 1930 United States Federal Census View Record Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1930 (City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation View Image View Record Anna Skill Elizabeth Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1892 Pennsylvania Daughter View Record Presper Skill Anna Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1919 Grandson View Record John Skill Anna Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1921 Grandson View Record Ethel Skill Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1883 Pennsylvania Head View Record John Skill Sadie Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1862 Pennsylvania Head View Record Sadie Skill John Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA abt 1868 Wife No Skil No Skil, Skill in Bucks Co. Georgette >From: Linda Musgrave <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PABUCKS] Brock Query >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:56:45 -0700 (PDT) > >Could someone look up the name Skill in Byberry.? My father's people lived >there and owned a confectionary store there also. Joseph Skill or any Skill >living in Byberry, Pa. > >thank you, >Linda >[email protected] > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Near mouth of Woodbury Creek,west of Woodbury,Gloucester Co,NJ [ I think]

Hello All, I just came across a nice map showing the canals and railroads of the state of PA as of 1860. I put a copy online for everyone's use so please feel free to check it out if you're interested. It's at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006