It is worth checking out this site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rampage/indextwo.txt There are many photos of Elmira folks. Sharron Vossoughi Modesto CA

Fees up on birth, death papers By Rick Armon Staff writer (July 11, 2004) — If you're planning on getting a new birth certificate in Monroe County — or, for that matter, a death certificate — do it soon so you can save a few bucks. The price of each will triple from $10 to $30 as a way to help raise nearly $1.4 million for the financially strapped county government. The state Legislature approved the increase late last month and the bill will be sent soon to Gov. George Pataki for his signature before it becomes effective. The fee apparently would be the highest for municipalities in New York. The state currently charges $30 for such documents, but the amount has been capped at $10 — not including any handling fees — for cities, counties, towns and villages. New York City charges $15. The good news is that new parents are given a birth certificate for free, so only people requesting additional documents would be charged. But multiple death certificates are often needed for legal tasks such as transferring real estate, stocks and bank accounts. And that will increase the cost of funeral services. The average family requests between six and 10 death certificates, according to funeral directors. The cost hasn't increased in more than 10 years, officials said. Last year in Monroe County, there were about 41,000 requests for death certif icates and 28,000 for birth certificates. The county budget estimates there will be about 10,000 births and 7,000 deaths here this year. The additional money would pay for the operation of the county's vital records office, which oversees the certificates, said John Ricci, a spokesman for the Health Department. The County Legislature last year approved the increase, which also included a jump in the fee for genealogy searches from $10 to $30, as part of the 2004 budget. At the time, county officials had to close a gap of about $42 million. Democrat and Chronicle July 11, 2004 Just thought you might want to have this information in case you are researching ancestors in NYS. Judy Neu Springwater, NY

In searching the Lewis County, Washington Website, I found several Towner's and I haven't any idea who they are or if they were related to my great grandmother who also lived in Lewis County from 1890 to 1915. Can anyone identify these Towner's? Do any of these names ring a bell? Perhaps you have missing Towner's, could these be family? If so, please let me know. It appears that most heads of household, or parent either were born in New York or Pennsylvania. If the links don't work, please E-mail me with the name TOWNER'S in the subject line. Thank you, Marilyn Wright Powers TOWNER'S IN LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON 1910 CENSUS - LEWIS COUNTY, WASHINGTON  TOWNER CHARLES SALZER 31 124-06A - BORN IN N.Y. TOWNER LILLIE SALZER 32 124-06A TOWNER CHARLES A. SALZER 33 124-06A TOWNER GEORGE KOPIAH 70 124-03B   TOWNER ELLA KOPIAH 71 124-03B   TOWNER RUSSELL KOPIAH 72 124-03B   TOWNER LAWARENCE KOPIAH 73 124-03B   TOWNER RUBEN E. KOPIAH 54 124-03B - BORN IN N.Y.  TOWNER MINNIE KOPIAH 55 124-03B   TOWNER EARL KOPIAH 56 124-03B   TOWNER ALMA KOPIAH 57 124-03B TOWNER WILLIAM E. SALZER 59 124-06B - N.Y. AND PA TOWNER FRANCIS SALZER 60 124-06B TOWNER NILS SALZER 61 124-06B TOWNER LILLIE SALZER 62 124-06B JOHNSON EARNEST R. SALZER 63 124-06B NEPHEW TOWNER 1910 - CENSUS - LEWIS COUNTY  LEASE JOSEPH E. CENTRALIA CITY, Wards 3 & 4 71 132-10B LEASE LAURA CENTRALIA CITY, Wards 3 & 4 72 132-10B LEASE CHARLOTTE CENTRALIA CITY, Wards 3 & 4 73 132-10B * TOWNER GRACE CENTRALIA CITY, Wards 3 & 4 74 132-10B * Appears that Grace was a servant for this family.  Josepha and Grace both have parents born in PA. ================================================================================= 1930 Lewis Co., WA Census - Kopiah Precinct TOWNER'S IN LEWIS COUNTY, 1930 CENSUS 13 3 4 TOWNER, Charles Head O yes yes M W 68 M 35 N. York N.York N.York  Farmer, dairy farm No   14     TOWNER, Lillie M. Wife       F W 59 M 28 Iowa Maryland Ohio     None     15     TOWNER, Alfred C. Son      M W 21 S   Washington New York Iowa     Farm laborer, dairy farm No   38 10 11 TOWNER, Reuben C. Head O $4000 yes no M W 48 M 24 Iowa New York Michigan     Laborer, odd jobs     39     TOWNER, Minnie R. Wife       F W 42 M 19 Nebraska Germany Germany     None     40     TOWNER, L. Earl Son       M W 22 S   Washington Iowa Nebraska     Logger, logging camp     41     TOWNER, Everal C. Son       M W 17 S   Washington Iowa Nebraska     Section man, railroad     42     TOWNER, Clarence E. Son       M W 12 S   Washington Iowa Nebraska     None     43     TOWNER, Wilma E. Daughter       F W 10 S   Washington Iowa Nebraska     None     44     TOWNER, Dona Daughter       F W 7 mo. S   Washington Iowa Nebraska     None   6 23 24 TOWNER, George W. Head O yes yes M W 50 M 23 Michigan New York Canada - English     Farmer, dairy farm No   7     TOWNER, J. Ella Wife       F W 46 M 18 Indiana North Carolina Indiana     None     8     TOWNER, W. Lawrence Son       M W 22 S   Washington Michigan Indiana     Farm laborer, dairy farm No   9     TOWNER, Dalton W. Son       M W 17 S   Washington Michigan Indiana     Farm laborer, dairy farm   10     TOWNER, Inez L. Daughter       F W 12 S   Washington Michigan Indiana     None ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- TOWNER'S  Lewis County Databases History of Lewis County, Washington http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wa/lewis/history/lch-idxtz.txt TOWNER      - Not sure of the date of these Towner's          Bessie           378                       Florence         260                       Margaret         294                       Rebecca          294

In going through my father ( Edward ELDRETT's) belongings, I found 3 pins from the Eclipse. They appear to be some type of award. They are smaller than a dime and gold in color. Two of them have a red crescent at the bottom with the word "Eclipse" and a ruby colored stone at the top. An arrow goes through the center. The third pin has a light blue/green crescent and a pearl. Does anyone on the list know where I might find the significance of these pins? Thanks. Daryl ELDRETT Watkins mrswat99@aol.com

Hi, This is just to find out if anyone is out there searching on the Blakesley / Blakeslee surname. I have a Ephraim Blakesley That died in 1808. Which is Bradford county today. I don't know if it was Bradford in 1808. I was wondering if there is a complied index for probate records during that time period or sometime afterwards. Charlotte

Here's a handy tool for those of us pursing early settlers of Bradford County. It is part of an advertisement for a complete transcribed copy of this census. Don't know if Joyce would want to publish it; it is not an original work of mine. I assume that it is complete and accurate. Surnames Found In The 1790 Census, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. Present day Bradford County was part of Luzerne County in 1790. Many of these family names appear in later Bradford County, having moved north following the close of the Revolutionary War. ABBOT ADAMS ALDEN ALEXANDER ALLEN ALLENTON ARMSTRONG ARNOLD ARTHUR ASHFORD ATHERTON ATWATER AUSTIN AYRES BAGLEY BAILEY BAKER BALDWIN BARLOW BARNS BARTLET BATHOLOMEW BEACH BECHELL BECKWITH BEEBE BENJAMIN BENNET BERGER BIDLACK BIDLEMAN BIGELOW BILLINGS BINGHAM BISHOP BLACKMAN BLADGET BLANCHARD BLITH BOULDRED BOWMAN BOYCE BRADNEY BREESE BRINK BROWN BUCHANAN BUCK BUDD BURNEY BURRET BUTLER BYLYEN CAMPBELL CARNEY CARPENTER CARR CARTER CARVER CARY CATLIN CHAMBERS CHAPIN CHAPMAN CHURCH CLARK CLAUSEN COBBS COLE COLEMAN COLLER COLT COMSTOCK CONNER COOLBACH COOLEY COOPEER COREY CORTWRIGHT CRANTZ CRAWFOOT CREISE CRISMAN CROSWELL CULBERTSON DAILEY DANA AVENPORT DAVENSPECK DAVIDSON DAVIS DECKER DEDRICK DEGROT DELANO DENISON DENMARK DEPUE DERRICK DEVENS DEVORE DEWY DILLEY DINGMAN DIXON DODD DODGE DODSON DORRANCE DORTON DOUGHERTY DOWNING DRAKE DUANE DUNN DURELL DURKEE DUTCHER EAGLESTONE EARL ECKLER EDGERTON EICK ELLIOTT ELY ENSIGN ESPY EVANS FADE FAIRCHILD FANCHER FAULKNER FELL FELLOWS FERST FIELD FINCH FINK FINN FISH FISHER FITCH FLANDERS FLOWERS FOSTER FOX FRANKLIN FRAYER FRISBIE FRITLEY FULLER FUNSON GALE GALLUP GARDNER GARLINHOUSE GARRISON GAYLORD GEORGE GIBSON GIFFARD GOODWILL GOPH GORDON GORE GOSS GOULD GRAY GREEN GRENADIER GRIDLEY GRIST GRUBB GUTHRIE HAGEMAN HALL HALLET HALLUM HALSTEAD HANCOCK HARDING HARRIGER HARRIS HARRISON HARTSOUFF HARVEY HAWKINS HAYLEY HAZARD HAZLETON HEADLY HEADSALL HEATH HENDERSON HENDRICHSHOT HENDRICK HEPLER HERRINGTON HESS HIBBARD HILLMAN HINDS HODGE HODGETTS HOLCOMB HOLLAND HOLLENBACK HOLLY HOLT HOPKINS HOPPER HORTON HOUCK HOUGH HOVER HOWSE HUBBARD HUNT HURLBUT HUTCHINSON HYDE INGLER INMAN IRWINE IVES JACKSON JACOBS JAMESON JEE JENKINS JOCELIN JOHNSON JOLLY JONES KELLOGG KELLY KENNEDY KING KINGSBURY KINGSLEY KINNEY KIRKPATRICK KROMLEE LACEY LAMAREAUX LANDON LANE LASSLEY LAWRENCE LEE LEFRANCE LEINBERGER LEONARD LEWIS LINDLEY LITTLE LOCHRY LOTT LOVE LUCAS LUDLEY LUTESEY LUTZ LYONS MAHEW MAN MANTANYE MANVEL MAPES MARCY MARSHAL MARTIN MARVIN MATTHEWSON MATTIS MAXWELL MEDAUGH MEEKER MILEAGE MILLER MILLS MINIER MOOR MORE MOREHOUSE MOSIER MOSS MOWRE MULLEN MULLISON MUNSON MURRAY MURROW MYERS McALHAES McCOY McDONALD McDUFFY McGREGORY McMULLEN McNAMARA McNEILE NASH NEFEW NEISBITT NELSON NEWEL NEWMAN NOBLES NORTHROP OAKLY OEGHMIG OGDEN OLDS OPENSHORE OSTERHOUDT OVERFIELD OWEN OZENKOOP PACE PARISH PARK PARKER PARMIN PARSHAL PARSON PATRICK PATTERSON PEASE PEDRICK PELL PENELL PEPPER PERKINS PERSEN PETTIBONE PHELPS PHILIPS PICKERING PICKET PIERCE PIKE PLATNER POINT PORTER POST POTTER POTTMAN PRESTON PREY PRICE PRIGMORE PRITTON QUEEN QUICK RALPH RALSTON RANSOME RATHBONE READER REDFORD REED REEDHOVEL REIP REIPIR REPETH REYNOLDS RICE RICHARDS RIDER RISCH ROBERTS ROBERTSON ROBINSON ROCKWELL ROGERS ROOD ROOT ROSENGRANTZ ROSS RUTTY SALISBURY SANFORD SANTEE SATURLEE SCHOONOVER SCHOTT SCOTT SCOUTEN SCOVEL SEARLES SEELYE SEVERLING SHAFER SHANTZ SHAW SHEPHERD SHERWOOD SHOEMAKER SHOVER SILLSBIE SIMMERS SIMONS SINGER SINNARD SKINNER SLOCUM SMITH SMITHERS SNELL SNIDER SOUTHWARD SPACE SPALDING SPENCER SPRAGUE STAGE STAPLES STARK STEEL STEVENS STEWART STILES STOFELBEEN STOOKEY STRICKLAND STROPE SULLIVAN SUTTON SWARTHOUT SWETLAND SWINGLE SYBERT TALLIDY TAYLOR TEMP TERRY THOMAS THOMPSON TILLBURY TOMKINS TOWNSEND TOWNSLEY TRACY TRAVER TRAVERSE TRIPP TRUCKS TRUESDELL TUBBBS TURNER TUTTLE TYLER UNDERWOOD UPDERGROVE VAN VanCAMPEN VanCOURT VanSCOTER VANELL VANFLEET VANGORDON VANLONE VAUGHN WADE WADHAMS WALKER WALLER WARNER WASHBOURN WATSON WEEKS WELCH WELLES WENTLING WESTBROOK WHEELER -- Dick McCracken Towanda, PA Plan your Work... Work your Plan...

You have to go to http://dotlibrary.specialcollection.net/ and click on railroad investigations. Anything else seems to produce a bookmark error. Would be interested if anyone could help with the marriage or birth records I was looking for thanks In message <057d01c45a7c$57b809e0$1ec32844@ws1>, Sue Perry <sueperry@comcast.net> writes >A nice resource - - thank you ! Here is the complete/corrected/new URL for >any of you that had trouble reaching the site: > >http://dotlibrary2.specialcollection.net/scripts/ws.dll?websearch&site=d >ot_railroads > >Sue Perry >Ann Arbor, Mi > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Jtrippneu@aol.com> >To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:08 PM >Subject: 1912 Train Accidents > > >> Reported train accidents for the beginning of 1912 are as follows. >> Unfortunately, even when fatalities are mentioned, the names are not >given, but if you >> know which area the accident occurred in, you may be able to get a copy of >the >> report from the Department of Transportation: >> >> PITTSBURGH & LAKE ERIE RAILROAD >> >> LOUISVILLE & NASHVILLE RAILROAD >> >> <A >HREF="http://www1.librarydigital.com/scripts/'/scripts/ws.dll?browseILLINOIS >CENTRAL RAILROAD >> >> CENTRAL OF GEORGIA RAILWAY >> >> NORFOLK & WESTERN RAILWAY >> >> This is a synopsis of the one accident that actually comes closest to your >> ancestor's death date and it occurred in PA, but it is about 10 days after >the >> date you indicated in your e-mail: >> >> >> INVESTIGATIONS OF RAILROAD ACCIDENTS 1911 - 1966 >> >> >> File Number 45 Railroad PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD Date >> 02/15/1912 Location WARRIOR RIDGE, PA. Accident Type D. >> >> >> >> >> March 13, 1912. MEMORANDUM TO COMMISSIONER McCHORDrelative to accident on >the >> Pennsylvania Railroad, February 15, 1912. >> >> Draft submitted by the Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances as a basis for >> the report of the Commission >> >> On February 16, 1912, the Pennsylvania Railroad reported by telegraph an >> accident occurring at warrior Ridge, Pa., on February 15. Inspectors >Archer, Duffy >> and Howard were instructed to make an investigation, and a synopsis of >their >> report is given below. Eastbound passenger train No. 2, known as the >> "Pennsylvania Limited", a route from Chicago to New York and consisting of >one portal >> car, one combination car, three sleeping cars, two dining cars, three >sleeping >> cars and an observation car, all of which were of steel construction and >> hauled by engines Nos. 2982 and 3350, left Altoona, Pa., at 11:12 A.M., >and was >> derailed at 11:52 A. M. at WG block station, near Warrior Ridge, 30 miles >east of >> Altoona, Pa. This derailment caused the death of two passengers and one >> Pullman car employee, and injuries to 62 passengers, 9 Pullman employees >(three of >> whom afterward died) and two trainman. With the exception of the two >engines >> and the postal car, the entire train left the rails and plunged down an >> embankment about 35 feet high, several of the cars turning over one or >more times in >> their descent. The speed of the train at the time of the derailment was >about >> sixty miles per hour. >> >> At the point of the accident the Pennsylvania Railroad is a four-track >road, >> on a fill varying from 30 to 35 feet in depth, with a descending grade to >the >> east of about one half of one per cent. The accident occurred at the end >of >> about one half mile of straight track, at the beginning of a one degree >curve. >> The track proceeding the point of the accident clearly showed that some >part of >> the running gear of the train had broken down. Ties at different points >along >> the road were found to be badly scored, the rock ballast was disturbed, >the >> pinking at a road crossing was split up, etc. After carefully examining >the >> running gear of the train it was found that the bottom arch bar on the >right-hand >> side of the forward truck of the tender of the second engine was broken >> behind the rear column bolt, the fracture being located underneath the >column >> casting at the head. The column bolt itself was broken off at the lower >arch bar >> and the two journal box bolts were broken off below the journal box. These >bolts >> were undoubtedly broken by obstructions after the failure of the arch bar. >It >> seems apparent that the breaking of the arch bar forced that tie bar down >to >> such an extent that when the train reached a switch located nearly >opposite WG >> tower the tie bar wedged in between the switch point and the stock rail. >This >> caused the switch point to break, while at the some time the stock rail >was >> pushed out of place, this causing the derailment of the train. Further >> investigation showed that there was an old flaw at the rear band in the >arch bar, and >> it is supposed that the arch bar broke originally at this point. On >account of >> the flaw being located underneath the column casting, concealed by the >column >> bolt nut, diligent inspection would have failed to discover it. Samples >from >> the broken arch bar in the immediate vicinity of the break were taken to >the >> Laboratories of the Pennsylvania Railroad at Altoona, Pa., and after >various >> physical tests had been made it was found that the metal of the arch bar >> conformed to the specifications required by then for arch bar material. >Chemical >> analysis also showed that the material was of the character which would be >> expected under the specifications. To the all steel equipment of the train >can >> undoubtedly be attributed the comparatively small loss of life. >> >> Respectively submitted, >> Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances >> >> Judy Neu >> Springwater, NY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe to the Tri-Counties mail list see directions from the >front page of the Tri-Counties site at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > -- Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). 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Oops - - try this instead: http://dotlibrary.specialcollection.net/ , and then scroll down to / click on I.C.C. Historical Railroad Investigation Reports (1911-1966) . Sue Perry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jtrippneu@aol.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: 1912 Train Accidents > Reported train accidents for the beginning of 1912 are as follows. > Unfortunately, even when fatalities are mentioned, the names are not given, but if you > know which area the accident occurred in, you may be able to get a copy of the > report from the Department of Transportation: > > PITTSBURGH & LAKE ERIE RAILROAD > > LOUISVILLE & NASHVILLE RAILROAD > > <A HREF="http://www1.librarydigital.com/scripts/'/scripts/ws.dll?browseILLINOIS CENTRAL RAILROAD > > CENTRAL OF GEORGIA RAILWAY > > NORFOLK & WESTERN RAILWAY > > This is a synopsis of the one accident that actually comes closest to your > ancestor's death date and it occurred in PA, but it is about 10 days after the > date you indicated in your e-mail: > > > INVESTIGATIONS OF RAILROAD ACCIDENTS 1911 - 1966 > > > File Number 45 Railroad PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD Date > 02/15/1912 Location WARRIOR RIDGE, PA. Accident Type D. > > > > > March 13, 1912. MEMORANDUM TO COMMISSIONER McCHORDrelative to accident on the > Pennsylvania Railroad, February 15, 1912. > > Draft submitted by the Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances as a basis for > the report of the Commission > > On February 16, 1912, the Pennsylvania Railroad reported by telegraph an > accident occurring at warrior Ridge, Pa., on February 15. Inspectors Archer, Duffy > and Howard were instructed to make an investigation, and a synopsis of their > report is given below. Eastbound passenger train No. 2, known as the > "Pennsylvania Limited", a route from Chicago to New York and consisting of one portal > car, one combination car, three sleeping cars, two dining cars, three sleeping > cars and an observation car, all of which were of steel construction and > hauled by engines Nos. 2982 and 3350, left Altoona, Pa., at 11:12 A.M., and was > derailed at 11:52 A. M. at WG block station, near Warrior Ridge, 30 miles east of > Altoona, Pa. This derailment caused the death of two passengers and one > Pullman car employee, and injuries to 62 passengers, 9 Pullman employees (three of > whom afterward died) and two trainman. With the exception of the two engines > and the postal car, the entire train left the rails and plunged down an > embankment about 35 feet high, several of the cars turning over one or more times in > their descent. The speed of the train at the time of the derailment was about > sixty miles per hour. > > At the point of the accident the Pennsylvania Railroad is a four-track road, > on a fill varying from 30 to 35 feet in depth, with a descending grade to the > east of about one half of one per cent. The accident occurred at the end of > about one half mile of straight track, at the beginning of a one degree curve. > The track proceeding the point of the accident clearly showed that some part of > the running gear of the train had broken down. Ties at different points along > the road were found to be badly scored, the rock ballast was disturbed, the > pinking at a road crossing was split up, etc. After carefully examining the > running gear of the train it was found that the bottom arch bar on the right-hand > side of the forward truck of the tender of the second engine was broken > behind the rear column bolt, the fracture being located underneath the column > casting at the head. The column bolt itself was broken off at the lower arch bar > and the two journal box bolts were broken off below the journal box. These bolts > were undoubtedly broken by obstructions after the failure of the arch bar. It > seems apparent that the breaking of the arch bar forced that tie bar down to > such an extent that when the train reached a switch located nearly opposite WG > tower the tie bar wedged in between the switch point and the stock rail. This > caused the switch point to break, while at the some time the stock rail was > pushed out of place, this causing the derailment of the train. Further > investigation showed that there was an old flaw at the rear band in the arch bar, and > it is supposed that the arch bar broke originally at this point. On account of > the flaw being located underneath the column casting, concealed by the column > bolt nut, diligent inspection would have failed to discover it. Samples from > the broken arch bar in the immediate vicinity of the break were taken to the > Laboratories of the Pennsylvania Railroad at Altoona, Pa., and after various > physical tests had been made it was found that the metal of the arch bar > conformed to the specifications required by then for arch bar material. Chemical > analysis also showed that the material was of the character which would be > expected under the specifications. To the all steel equipment of the train can > undoubtedly be attributed the comparatively small loss of life. > > Respectively submitted, > Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances > > Judy Neu > Springwater, NY > > > > > > > > > >

A nice resource - - thank you ! Here is the complete/corrected/new URL for any of you that had trouble reaching the site: http://dotlibrary2.specialcollection.net/scripts/ws.dll?websearch&site=dot_railroads Sue Perry Ann Arbor, Mi ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jtrippneu@aol.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: 1912 Train Accidents > Reported train accidents for the beginning of 1912 are as follows. > Unfortunately, even when fatalities are mentioned, the names are not given, but if you > know which area the accident occurred in, you may be able to get a copy of the > report from the Department of Transportation: > > PITTSBURGH & LAKE ERIE RAILROAD > > LOUISVILLE & NASHVILLE RAILROAD > > <A HREF="http://www1.librarydigital.com/scripts/'/scripts/ws.dll?browseILLINOIS CENTRAL RAILROAD > > CENTRAL OF GEORGIA RAILWAY > > NORFOLK & WESTERN RAILWAY > > This is a synopsis of the one accident that actually comes closest to your > ancestor's death date and it occurred in PA, but it is about 10 days after the > date you indicated in your e-mail: > > > INVESTIGATIONS OF RAILROAD ACCIDENTS 1911 - 1966 > > > File Number 45 Railroad PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD Date > 02/15/1912 Location WARRIOR RIDGE, PA. Accident Type D. > > > > > March 13, 1912. MEMORANDUM TO COMMISSIONER McCHORDrelative to accident on the > Pennsylvania Railroad, February 15, 1912. > > Draft submitted by the Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances as a basis for > the report of the Commission > > On February 16, 1912, the Pennsylvania Railroad reported by telegraph an > accident occurring at warrior Ridge, Pa., on February 15. Inspectors Archer, Duffy > and Howard were instructed to make an investigation, and a synopsis of their > report is given below. Eastbound passenger train No. 2, known as the > "Pennsylvania Limited", a route from Chicago to New York and consisting of one portal > car, one combination car, three sleeping cars, two dining cars, three sleeping > cars and an observation car, all of which were of steel construction and > hauled by engines Nos. 2982 and 3350, left Altoona, Pa., at 11:12 A.M., and was > derailed at 11:52 A. M. at WG block station, near Warrior Ridge, 30 miles east of > Altoona, Pa. This derailment caused the death of two passengers and one > Pullman car employee, and injuries to 62 passengers, 9 Pullman employees (three of > whom afterward died) and two trainman. With the exception of the two engines > and the postal car, the entire train left the rails and plunged down an > embankment about 35 feet high, several of the cars turning over one or more times in > their descent. The speed of the train at the time of the derailment was about > sixty miles per hour. > > At the point of the accident the Pennsylvania Railroad is a four-track road, > on a fill varying from 30 to 35 feet in depth, with a descending grade to the > east of about one half of one per cent. The accident occurred at the end of > about one half mile of straight track, at the beginning of a one degree curve. > The track proceeding the point of the accident clearly showed that some part of > the running gear of the train had broken down. Ties at different points along > the road were found to be badly scored, the rock ballast was disturbed, the > pinking at a road crossing was split up, etc. After carefully examining the > running gear of the train it was found that the bottom arch bar on the right-hand > side of the forward truck of the tender of the second engine was broken > behind the rear column bolt, the fracture being located underneath the column > casting at the head. The column bolt itself was broken off at the lower arch bar > and the two journal box bolts were broken off below the journal box. These bolts > were undoubtedly broken by obstructions after the failure of the arch bar. It > seems apparent that the breaking of the arch bar forced that tie bar down to > such an extent that when the train reached a switch located nearly opposite WG > tower the tie bar wedged in between the switch point and the stock rail. This > caused the switch point to break, while at the some time the stock rail was > pushed out of place, this causing the derailment of the train. Further > investigation showed that there was an old flaw at the rear band in the arch bar, and > it is supposed that the arch bar broke originally at this point. On account of > the flaw being located underneath the column casting, concealed by the column > bolt nut, diligent inspection would have failed to discover it. Samples from > the broken arch bar in the immediate vicinity of the break were taken to the > Laboratories of the Pennsylvania Railroad at Altoona, Pa., and after various > physical tests had been made it was found that the metal of the arch bar > conformed to the specifications required by then for arch bar material. Chemical > analysis also showed that the material was of the character which would be > expected under the specifications. To the all steel equipment of the train can > undoubtedly be attributed the comparatively small loss of life. > > Respectively submitted, > Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances > > Judy Neu > Springwater, NY > > > > > > > > > >

Could any one offer a suggestion on what else I can research? I am looking for Stephen Sease/Cease who was married to alzada Woodard. They had a daughter Mary in 1845, and a son Daniel in 1848,so I can assume they married about the year 1844. They lived in Tioga county, but I cannot find them on the census records. Alzada married Henry Buck in 1852 and they are found in the 1860 census. I cannot find ANYTHING on Stephen Sease. The only way I know that he was the father of my ancestor is his name is listed on his death certificate as Stephen Sease. Accoring to his son Daniel on his pension application, he said he lived his whole life in Tioga County. I have checked what I could on line as I live in Georgia. I am assuming that he died. Was divorce common in those days? I have gone through the census page by page in case they lived with someone else but still no luck. Any suggestion would be most welcome. Nancy Hicks ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Further to my note below, I have learned there is a Lestershire in Broome County, NY http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/ormonde/117/covers15j.html So, since Russel Lurcock seems to have died there rather than Leicestershire England, can anyone help with tracing where he is buried or how I might locate his death certificate? He died on 6th Feb 1912 according to this and would have been about 33. Was there any train accidents then? >-----Original Message----- >From: Craig Cockburn [mailto:craig@SiliconGlen.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:25 PM >To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Tri-Counties] Trying to trace LURCOCK mothers maiden surname >McGowan > > >Hi > >I am trying to trace birth records for the following, ages are those >given in the 1910 census: >Harriet Lurcock (8 months) >Beatrice Lurcock (2 years) > >They were part of a household comprising: >Russel Lurcock (32) >Elizabeth Lurcock (22) > >For info, I have the following records: > >1910 census record: >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-1910census.tif > >Mention of Russel Lurcock >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/jc-birth.jpg >This establishes the US-Scotland link > >Likely 1880 census record for Russel Lurcock (age 1) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabradfo/census/1880lit1.htm >another extract details this very similar but slightly different info: > >Litchfield, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1880 > >Edw. Lurcock, Farm Laborer, Age 30, Born:  Pennsylvania, >Father Born:  England >Mother Born:  England > >Ella Lurcock, Wife, Keeping House, Age 20, Born:     Pennsylvania >No Indication of where parents were born > >RUSSELL LURCOCK, Son, Age 1, Born:     New York >George Hudson, StepSon, Age 3, Born:     Pennsylvania > > >Death of Harriet Lurcock showing full name (Harriet May) and parents >details >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/harriet-lurcock.tif > >The census record is the best info I have, and although I have possible >matches for Elizabeth McGowan entering the US (1903; aged 17; dumfries), >I really need to locate her marriage details before I can progress much >further as details of her marriage are sketchy. Besides this >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/jc-birth.jpg >Which seems to indicate that although she is shown as married in the US >1910 census, her husband died in 1912 in Leicestershire (England). This >could be the Haddington registrar misunderstanding Schuyler. > >I also have this Lurcock marriage record which on the face of it seems >not to be a good match as the bride's surname is wrong (should be >McGowan) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyschuyl/MarrigL.html >However, the actual record of this here: >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-marriage.jpg >shows the mother's maiden name as "Mary Jane Beck" which does match this >Elizabeth McGowan >http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-birth.tif > >So, a bit of a puzzle really. Maybe they eloped and she lied about her >surname (and he hid his previous 2 marriages which appear on the census >record) > >Can anyone help me to locate the birth records of Harriet or Beatrice >please, >the census at Chemung County, Veteran is likely also where they were >born, given that one is 8 months old. > >Once I have a birth record, then hopefully I can start to make a bit >more sense of the marriage confusion! > >If anyone can find alternative matches for the marriage, this would also >be very useful. > >many thanks > >-- >Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com >Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994. >Scottish FAQ, wedding info, website design, stop spam and more! > > >==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== >Visit the Tri-Counties site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > > > -- Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994. Scottish FAQ, wedding info, website design, stop spam and more!

Reported train accidents for the beginning of 1912 are as follows. Unfortunately, even when fatalities are mentioned, the names are not given, but if you know which area the accident occurred in, you may be able to get a copy of the report from the Department of Transportation: PITTSBURGH & LAKE ERIE RAILROAD LOUISVILLE & NASHVILLE RAILROAD <A HREF="http://www1.librarydigital.com/scripts/'/scripts/ws.dll?browseILLINOIS CENTRAL RAILROAD CENTRAL OF GEORGIA RAILWAY NORFOLK & WESTERN RAILWAY This is a synopsis of the one accident that actually comes closest to your ancestor's death date and it occurred in PA, but it is about 10 days after the date you indicated in your e-mail: INVESTIGATIONS OF RAILROAD ACCIDENTS 1911 - 1966 File Number 45  Railroad PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD  Date 02/15/1912  Location WARRIOR RIDGE, PA.  Accident Type D.  March 13, 1912. MEMORANDUM TO COMMISSIONER McCHORDrelative to accident on the Pennsylvania Railroad, February 15, 1912. Draft submitted by the Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances as a basis for the report of the Commission On February 16, 1912, the Pennsylvania Railroad reported by telegraph an accident occurring at warrior Ridge, Pa., on February 15. Inspectors Archer, Duffy and Howard were instructed to make an investigation, and a synopsis of their report is given below. Eastbound passenger train No. 2, known as the "Pennsylvania Limited", a route from Chicago to New York and consisting of one portal car, one combination car, three sleeping cars, two dining cars, three sleeping cars and an observation car, all of which were of steel construction and hauled by engines Nos. 2982 and 3350, left Altoona, Pa., at 11:12 A.M., and was derailed at 11:52 A. M. at WG block station, near Warrior Ridge, 30 miles east of Altoona, Pa. This derailment caused the death of two passengers and one Pullman car employee, and injuries to 62 passengers, 9 Pullman employees (three of whom afterward died) and two trainman. With the exception of the two engines and the postal car, the entire train left the rails and plunged down an embankment about 35 feet high, several of the cars turning over one or more times in their descent. The speed of the train at the time of the derailment was about sixty miles per hour. At the point of the accident the Pennsylvania Railroad is a four-track road, on a fill varying from 30 to 35 feet in depth, with a descending grade to the east of about one half of one per cent. The accident occurred at the end of about one half mile of straight track, at the beginning of a one degree curve. The track proceeding the point of the accident clearly showed that some part of the running gear of the train had broken down. Ties at different points along the road were found to be badly scored, the rock ballast was disturbed, the pinking at a road crossing was split up, etc. After carefully examining the running gear of the train it was found that the bottom arch bar on the right-hand side of the forward truck of the tender of the second engine was broken behind the rear column bolt, the fracture being located underneath the column casting at the head. The column bolt itself was broken off at the lower arch bar and the two journal box bolts were broken off below the journal box. These bolts were undoubtedly broken by obstructions after the failure of the arch bar. It seems apparent that the breaking of the arch bar forced that tie bar down to such an extent that when the train reached a switch located nearly opposite WG tower the tie bar wedged in between the switch point and the stock rail. This caused the switch point to break, while at the some time the stock rail was pushed out of place, this causing the derailment of the train. Further investigation showed that there was an old flaw at the rear band in the arch bar, and it is supposed that the arch bar broke originally at this point. On account of the flaw being located underneath the column casting, concealed by the column bolt nut, diligent inspection would have failed to discover it. Samples from the broken arch bar in the immediate vicinity of the break were taken to the Laboratories of the Pennsylvania Railroad at Altoona, Pa., and after various physical tests had been made it was found that the metal of the arch bar conformed to the specifications required by then for arch bar material. Chemical analysis also showed that the material was of the character which would be expected under the specifications. To the all steel equipment of the train can undoubtedly be attributed the comparatively small loss of life. Respectively submitted, Chief Inspector of Safety Appliances Judy Neu Springwater, NY

Hi I am trying to trace birth records for the following, ages are those given in the 1910 census: Harriet Lurcock (8 months) Beatrice Lurcock (2 years) They were part of a household comprising: Russel Lurcock (32) Elizabeth Lurcock (22) For info, I have the following records: 1910 census record: http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-1910census.tif Mention of Russel Lurcock http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/jc-birth.jpg This establishes the US-Scotland link Likely 1880 census record for Russel Lurcock (age 1) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabradfo/census/1880lit1.htm another extract details this very similar but slightly different info: Litchfield, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1880 Edw. Lurcock, Farm Laborer, Age 30, Born:  Pennsylvania, Father Born:  England Mother Born:  England Ella Lurcock, Wife, Keeping House, Age 20, Born:     Pennsylvania No Indication of where parents were born RUSSELL LURCOCK, Son, Age 1, Born:     New York George Hudson, StepSon, Age 3, Born:     Pennsylvania Death of Harriet Lurcock showing full name (Harriet May) and parents details http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/harriet-lurcock.tif The census record is the best info I have, and although I have possible matches for Elizabeth McGowan entering the US (1903; aged 17; dumfries), I really need to locate her marriage details before I can progress much further as details of her marriage are sketchy. Besides this http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/jc-birth.jpg Which seems to indicate that although she is shown as married in the US 1910 census, her husband died in 1912 in Leicestershire (England). This could be the Haddington registrar misunderstanding Schuyler. I also have this Lurcock marriage record which on the face of it seems not to be a good match as the bride's surname is wrong (should be McGowan) http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyschuyl/MarrigL.html However, the actual record of this here: http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-marriage.jpg shows the mother's maiden name as "Mary Jane Beck" which does match this Elizabeth McGowan http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/el-birth.tif So, a bit of a puzzle really. Maybe they eloped and she lied about her surname (and he hid his previous 2 marriages which appear on the census record) Can anyone help me to locate the birth records of Harriet or Beatrice please, the census at Chemung County, Veteran is likely also where they were born, given that one is 8 months old. Once I have a birth record, then hopefully I can start to make a bit more sense of the marriage confusion! If anyone can find alternative matches for the marriage, this would also be very useful. many thanks -- Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994. Scottish FAQ, wedding info, website design, stop spam and more!

This article written in the 1980's came from The Catholic University of America by Mr. William T. Malone. Deegan comes from O Duibhginn, itself made up of the words dubh 'black' (the first syllable of DUBlin), and ginn a form of ceann 'head' Deegan is the most common anglicized form but Duigan and Deignan show up in Counties Laois and Offaly. Even today we find more people with the name Deegan in these counties than in any other area of Ireland. Both 16th century fiants(government records), and the 1665 census indicate Deegan's popularity in this region. We can consider the midlands their homeland because the separate O Duibhginn families of Wexford and Clare have almost disappeared. But the three families share no heritage. Some noted midland O Duibhginn family maintained the bell in St. Molua's chapel in Kyle Parish in Laois. Their 2,000 acres fell into the hands of Sir Charles Coote who served Elizabeth I. He established his family in Laois (Kings'sCounty) and Cootehill, County Cavan, is named after in influential Ascendant family. Sharon

I have to add my two cents on the Ancestry vs. Genealogy debate: I agree completely with Ann Sullivan although I use Internet Explorer exclusively and have never had any problem seeing the census images. In addition, now that I have DSL, browsing the census images is feasible. My biggest complaint about Genealogy.com is that I cannot browse by last name. I have some very unusual last names but if I can't come up with a first name I can't go any farther. So I have both subscriptions and feel I have gotten my money's worth. Patricia Johnson Sacramento, CA PABRADFO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 PABRADFO-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: #1 Brad Co Hist Soc extended hours ["montrose" ] #2 Re: [Tri-Counties] Ancestry vs. Ge ["Ann Y. Sullivan" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from PABRADFO-D, send a message to PABRADFO-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 06:36:14 -0400 From: "montrose" To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Brad Co Hist Soc extended hours The Bradford County Historical Society has extended Saturday hours, which was adopted at last evening's Board meeting. The research library will be open from 10 to 2, an additional two hours, and the museum from 10 to 3. Also, the Board welcomes two new Board members - Anne Sturzen of Towanda and Matt Carl of LeRoy and President of the LeRoy Historical Society. J. Kelsey Jones ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:31:55 -0700 From: "Ann Y. Sullivan" To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Tri-Counties] Ancestry vs. Genealogy.com I've been away and missed last month's discussion re Ancestry.com vs. Genealogy.com. I'm glad to find out that I'm not the only one who can't read Ancestry's census images with Netscape and now, reading this message from Mary, I'm very very glad I just gave up on the problem and only visit Ancestry.com in Internet Explorer. I use both Ancestry.com vs. Genealogy.com, and my chief complaint about Genealogy.com is that it's extremely tedious to wade through search results and getting worse as more databases are added. But in spite of that, the Family and Local Histories subscription at Genealogy.com has been very useful to me and probably worth every dollar I've spent on it. Not many of those old regional histories and genealogies are available online in any form. (Tri-Counties researchers are truly blessed having such a huge data collection transcribed and searchable for free!) Genealogy.com has saved me countless hours and $'s for travel to distant libraries where you are often not allowed to make photocopies of fragile old books. Much of the material they have online has been microfilmed, but ordering and reading microfilm also involves time and money and inconvenience. Long ago I found my ggg grandparents in the Tri-Counties transcription of Craft's history of Bradford Co., but until I looked at the images of the actual pages at Genealogy.com, I had no idea that Craft had included pictures of them and their residence. That discovery alone convinced me that I'd gotten my money's worth. Annie Sullivan At 10:38 PM 5/13/2004 -0400, Mary Wozniak wrote: >Carol, If you use Netscape, I hope you haven't spent your money on >Ancestry, yet! With Netscape, Ancestry only works with versions 4.6 or >7.0. I used Ancestry's link to update from Netscape 6.0 to 7.0. However, >Ancestry's link actually took me to version 7.1, not 7.0, which I didn't >notice until it was installed in my computer. Ancestry's census images >can't be read or printed with 7.1, so I attempted to un-install 7.1. It >didn't completely un-install. I had to send to Netscape and buy a CD of >version 7.0. That still didn't work. To make a long story short, I was >without my desktop computer for over five months, while it was in the shop >. Eventually everything had to be wiped out of the drive and new programs >reinstalled. Fortunately, my genealogy files were in my laptop. > >Also, If you are on a fixed income, the way Ancestry bundles their >services gets very, very expensive! And, yes, I realize that the services >they provide cost them a lot. But, the arrogance of their tech staff - if >you can even ferret them out - leaves a lot to be desired. > >My recommendation is to use Ancestry, sparingly, if at all. More and >more web sites are springing up. You might try "Googling" the thing for >which you are searching. Good Luck. > >Mary

I am very interested in corresponding with any descendants of Lora Ethelina Horton Zeller Schraeder (Memories from 1891-1959 WRITTEN BY Lora Ethelina HORTON Zeller Schraeder) or any of her relatives that are related to Samuel Davidson, Sr. My g.g.grandmother, Clarissa Davidson Towner (wife of Philander Towner) was Samuel Davidson's (Sr.) sister. Thank you, Marilyn Powers

I've been away and missed last month's discussion re Ancestry.com vs. Genealogy.com. I'm glad to find out that I'm not the only one who can't read Ancestry's census images with Netscape and now, reading this message from Mary, I'm very very glad I just gave up on the problem and only visit Ancestry.com in Internet Explorer. I use both Ancestry.com vs. Genealogy.com, and my chief complaint about Genealogy.com is that it's extremely tedious to wade through search results and getting worse as more databases are added. But in spite of that, the Family and Local Histories subscription at Genealogy.com has been very useful to me and probably worth every dollar I've spent on it. Not many of those old regional histories and genealogies are available online in any form. (Tri-Counties researchers are truly blessed having such a huge data collection transcribed and searchable for free!) Genealogy.com has saved me countless hours and $'s for travel to distant libraries where you are often not allowed to make photocopies of fragile old books. Much of the material they have online has been microfilmed, but ordering and reading microfilm also involves time and money and inconvenience. Long ago I found my ggg grandparents in the Tri-Counties transcription of Craft's history of Bradford Co., but until I looked at the images of the actual pages at Genealogy.com, I had no idea that Craft had included pictures of them and their residence. That discovery alone convinced me that I'd gotten my money's worth. Annie Sullivan At 10:38 PM 5/13/2004 -0400, Mary Wozniak wrote: >Carol, If you use Netscape, I hope you haven't spent your money on >Ancestry, yet! With Netscape, Ancestry only works with versions 4.6 or >7.0. I used Ancestry's link to update from Netscape 6.0 to 7.0. However, >Ancestry's link actually took me to version 7.1, not 7.0, which I didn't >notice until it was installed in my computer. Ancestry's census images >can't be read or printed with 7.1, so I attempted to un-install 7.1. It >didn't completely un-install. I had to send to Netscape and buy a CD of >version 7.0. That still didn't work. To make a long story short, I was >without my desktop computer for over five months, while it was in the shop >. Eventually everything had to be wiped out of the drive and new programs >reinstalled. Fortunately, my genealogy files were in my laptop. > >Also, If you are on a fixed income, the way Ancestry bundles their >services gets very, very expensive! And, yes, I realize that the services >they provide cost them a lot. But, the arrogance of their tech staff - if >you can even ferret them out - leaves a lot to be desired. > >My recommendation is to use Ancestry, sparingly, if at all. More and >more web sites are springing up. You might try "Googling" the thing for >which you are searching. Good Luck. > >Mary

The Bradford County Historical Society has extended Saturday hours, which was adopted at last evening's Board meeting. The research library will be open from 10 to 2, an additional two hours, and the museum from 10 to 3. Also, the Board welcomes two new Board members - Anne Sturzen of Towanda and Matt Carl of LeRoy and President of the LeRoy Historical Society. J. Kelsey Jones

Hello list! The Covington Church of Christ is celebrating its 175th anniversary this year. Some information is needed on the stained glass windows and the names that are printed on them. Hope someone can help out with the following list: 1. Thank offering from class of 1891, taught by Mrs. E. Klock 2. In memory of our father Joseph Ridge and a thank offering to Mary his wife, from their sons Sherman, George and John 3. Thank offering from George W. Blanchard and M. Ella Whiting, his wife 4. In memory of our father and mother, Joseph Hagenbach and Mary O., his wife, from Mrs. M. Scouten and Mrs. F. G. Cutts 5. Thank offering to my father, Stillman T. Marvin and in loving memory of my mother, Elizabeth Hughs Marvin, from Frank Marvin 6. Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel. (Christian Endevor) 7. In memory of our son, Frank E. Hamilton from Rev. U. A. White and Josephine his wife Two windows (side by side) as you come in the front door A. In loving memory of my wife B. Maria Blair Brown I have found some information from Joyce's site but I would like more information. Thank you Carole Knowlton merlin@infoblvd.net

Would the lady who was doing Avery DNA research please e-mail me? Jim in Vermont