So sorry!! MaryAnn from Tucson EberbachMA@aol.com

You can see if your local library subscribes to Ancestry Plus or go to the nearest FHC. They have a free subscription to Ancestry Plus MaryAnn from Tucson EberbachMA@aol.com

Could any one tell me if when you search the PICO search, if something new has been added , does it list it on the end of the results? Just wondered if I had to go through all of the results again to find it. Thanks Nancy Hicks ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!

Some Census records for US, Canada, Britain are available free at the LDS website - http://www.familysearch.org ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!

I am writing about this family. Others include: Orlando Lowell, Button, Ryon, Lyon, Etz I have done censuses and other simple things. Would appreciate anything of interest about them, especially wills and obits and burials (tho I do have some deaths from the web site) news stories; other web sites? Books? Articles? Thanks very much. Jane

M- What a great story!! That is why we do genealogy-we look out there at nothing,throw out some names, and then,suddenly, things hook up and there is something out there!! And Hector is a hard place. My Foster Updyke was a trustee of the 2nd Baptist Church. I am constantly hunting my Leflers there and have not found any public record, not even in the Steele Library of Elmira which I agreee is the greatest place to spend a day-bright and open, good chairs , friendly people who have done a lot for this visitor from a distant place. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:43 AM Subject: Re: [Tri-Counties] general search question > Good morning Mike, I do not know your location but in this area the Southern > Tier of New York and the Northern Tier of PA census records can be found at > Steele Library in Elmira, at the county Clerks office in the county seats in > New York. There is a Family History Center in Horseheads that has had some > census when I searched there in the past. In PA some of the Libraries like > Green Free Library in Wellsboro has the Tioga County Census, The Historical > society in Potter County has the census for that county. Each of these > areas have other records other than census. In PA you will find the early > birth and death records until 1905. You will find marriage records from 1885 > to the present. In PA you have the tax records. In both states you have deed > and wills, and probates. In my book nothing beats going to the area. I am > presently working on on of my families in the Hector area in Schuyler > county. I have looked for a set of Church records for over 20 years. On that > day I knocked on a door. A friendly woman invited me and said this was the > old parsonage, She let me use her phone to call people that she knew for > involved with the church. By the time I had returned home one had returned > my call and our husband had spent hours talking about their hobbies, old > cars and tractors. She called me a few days later and told me she had all of > the church records plus copies of all the census for the e area. She looked > up names . I told her how some fit in and we are to get together and work. > I am working on the next generation back in Cortland county. I have made > several trips there this summer and made some progress. I spent last Friday > on the phone running records and people down. I have not added new > generation this year but have file din alot of gaps. Marilyn Bess > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bobbie Selub" <bobbieselub@comcast.net> > To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Tri-Counties] general search question > > > > Mike > > Are you near an archival area - we have the Fed center here in > > Colorado. I will admit I have difficulty getting there (time) It is > > free, they have ancestry, genealogy, and Heritage Quest - The only cost > > is printouts - but you need to spend some time there. > > Roberta > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Miketuch1@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to look at the results of a search of the US Census > > > records > > > without having to pay Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com $200? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > > > Contact JoyceTice@aol.com to find out how to submit your historical > > > and family materials to Tri-Counties site at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > > Be sure to check the What's New page at Tri-Counties Site regularly. It > links directly from the main page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/2004 > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > Tri-Counties Site includes nearly 700 Cemetery Listings available from the township pages and from the Cemetery Index at http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > >

I was wondering if perhaps someone could give a brief description of what is involved in maintaining a list like this one. I am sure it is very time consuming but I don't really know how much time, what all is involved, and what the costs are. Beverly Carter bcarter2@wi.rr.com

Mike, most large public libraries and a lot of little ones subscribe to Heritage Quest. It doesn't have all the census on line, but gets most of them. Karyl Hubbard karylh@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Good morning Mike, I do not know your location but in this area the Southern Tier of New York and the Northern Tier of PA census records can be found at Steele Library in Elmira, at the county Clerks office in the county seats in New York. There is a Family History Center in Horseheads that has had some census when I searched there in the past. In PA some of the Libraries like Green Free Library in Wellsboro has the Tioga County Census, The Historical society in Potter County has the census for that county. Each of these areas have other records other than census. In PA you will find the early birth and death records until 1905. You will find marriage records from 1885 to the present. In PA you have the tax records. In both states you have deed and wills, and probates. In my book nothing beats going to the area. I am presently working on on of my families in the Hector area in Schuyler county. I have looked for a set of Church records for over 20 years. On that day I knocked on a door. A friendly woman invited me and said this was the old parsonage, She let me use her phone to call people that she knew for involved with the church. By the time I had returned home one had returned my call and our husband had spent hours talking about their hobbies, old cars and tractors. She called me a few days later and told me she had all of the church records plus copies of all the census for the e area. She looked up names . I told her how some fit in and we are to get together and work. I am working on the next generation back in Cortland county. I have made several trips there this summer and made some progress. I spent last Friday on the phone running records and people down. I have not added new generation this year but have file din alot of gaps. Marilyn Bess ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobbie Selub" <bobbieselub@comcast.net> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [Tri-Counties] general search question > Mike > Are you near an archival area - we have the Fed center here in > Colorado. I will admit I have difficulty getting there (time) It is > free, they have ancestry, genealogy, and Heritage Quest - The only cost > is printouts - but you need to spend some time there. > Roberta > > > On Oct 25, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Miketuch1@aol.com wrote: > > > Is there any way to look at the results of a search of the US Census > > records > > without having to pay Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com $200? > > > > Mike > > > > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > > Contact JoyceTice@aol.com to find out how to submit your historical > > and family materials to Tri-Counties site at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > > > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the What's New page at Tri-Counties Site regularly. It links directly from the main page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/2004

Mike Are you near an archival area - we have the Fed center here in Colorado. I will admit I have difficulty getting there (time) It is free, they have ancestry, genealogy, and Heritage Quest - The only cost is printouts - but you need to spend some time there. Roberta On Oct 25, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Miketuch1@aol.com wrote: > Is there any way to look at the results of a search of the US Census > records > without having to pay Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com $200? > > Mike > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > Contact JoyceTice@aol.com to find out how to submit your historical > and family materials to Tri-Counties site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm >

Is there any way to look at the results of a search of the US Census records without having to pay Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com $200? Mike

I'm afraid that this is a stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway: I've found Albert Gould Cuyle in Joyce's great web site in the listing of WW1 Draft Registration Cards for Bradford County. Where would I be able to see a copy of the card to obtain additional information about Albert? Thanks. Judy Cuyle

Sandy I certainly do agree with you and wish areas in Brooklyn, NY had as good a site. Roberta Selub On Oct 23, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Sandy Ting wrote: > > > Joyce and the other volunteers, > > > > I would like you to know how much I enjoy and have been helped your > research site. I appreciate also the time, money and expense you put > into it. > > In 5 years of doing research I've learned that "brickwalls" don't > crumble in a short time. I am finding out information and meeting > distant relatives which it has taken me this long to accomplish and I'm > just scratching the surface. > > > On these genealogy sites new information is being added all the time > when new members add their information and names. Genealogy to me is a > work in progress that is continuing all the time and growing. Being a > lover of mystery it just spurns me on. > > > I've been very happy to see references to family members on your site. > > Thank you again for all you do. > > > Sincerely, Sandy Ting > > > ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe to the Tri-Counties mail list see directions from the > front page of the Tri-Counties site at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm >

Joyce, I'd like to make a suggestion, not sure if it would be agreeable with you, but here's my thoughts. Over the years, I've watched the conversations and frustrations about using the list for queries. One of the big problems here, is ALL the other lists, that's what they're primarily used for! for QUERIES! If I were to start a Rootsweb list, that models all the other Rootsweb lists, then that would hopefully put a stop to misuse of your list. I for one, and I believe others, would probably belong to both lists. Of course, Rootsweb would have to give permission first. It's not that people don't appreciate your work, it's just that they're not at all used to a Rootsweb list being used in the way that you have set up, and you have to admit, it does not model the other lists. I would love to post queries about different families, and I've spent much time on the Tri-Counties website, and many times, there is just too much to wade through, everytime I research my MAY surname, I might as well give up, since one of the months of the year is exactly the same. To think that others outside of yourself and those that run your website are not helpful is a mistake, as I and many other paid Ancestry subscribers, help people all the time! I responded and gave the SHAW query info on the WW Draft for the person she was researching. What about me starting a query list? or is that taking power and control from yourself.? I would probably only do a Bradford query list. John B.

>cemetery.........hostility Awwww, Joyce, I was just trying to be funny. I feel bad. I'm sorry. I miss those blitzes. I didn't know I was hurting your feelings. I always appreciated this website. Mike

This was posted on another group when a flame war began ... Let's hope we are all mature enough, intelligent enough and tolerant enough genealogists of the world to allow/accept all views, faux pas moments of innocent ignorance by newbies or oldies, etc. without caustic comments. cheers, Jude Thought this might amuse... How many list members does it takes to change a light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 3 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 1 to flame the spell checkers 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid 1 industry professional to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp" 3 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct 7 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum 11 to defend the posting to the group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this group 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty 5 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 4 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too" 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?" 3 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs" 1 to tell a funny story about their beagle and a light bulb 1 group lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again

I also want to say ditto to Sandy's message. I don't search the site as often as I used to, but as a result of some of my family info being on the site, I have heard from other family members I didn't even know, resulting in new info about my family. I still check out the "what's new" every so often and once in awhile I find something relevant to my genealogy search. So add my thanks also! Pat (Rowe) Stone, Rochester, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Ting" Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: [Tri-Counties] I appreciate your site! > Joyce and the other volunteers, > I would like you to know how much I enjoy and have been helped your > research site. I appreciate also the time, money and expense you put > into it. > Thank you again for all you do. > > > Sincerely, Sandy Ting

Well said Ray and thanks from us who are less fluent in the King's English! Ol' Bill -----Original Message----- From: Ray W. Justus [mailto:rwjustus@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:24 PM To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Tri-Counties] Here we go again. This list and the Tri-Counties website are both for sharing. Sharing by definition is giving. If it is truly a gift, it is unconditional. I think it is a tragic mistake to publicly rebuke people for "misusing" the list because they do not check the website out first. The vast majority of list members having only a passing interest in genealogy. However, they are often the very ones with new, unpublished information. Those lost links we have been researching for an eternity frequently arrive being carried by one of these unknowledgeable but well-meaning creatures we call novices. Please let's not discourage these people bearing gifts from the outside just because they are unfamiliar with the lists and websites. Rather, let's encourage them by telling them where they might find answers without so much fanfare. If we do this they may decide to stay and become givers as well. I have been on this list more than five years and have never felt the need to unsubscribe because there are too many queries that don't interest me. Ray Justus Chandler, Arizona ==== PABRADFO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe to the Tri-Counties mail list see directions from the front page of the Tri-Counties site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm

I do have a couple Charles Campbells of Chemung County, although neither seem to be those asked about. Telling about them may give background on one Chemung Campbell family's origins. Judson Campbell Sr 1790 CT died 10 Jun 1850 up at Veteran and was enumerated with the family anyway because he'd been present on 1 June. 1850 U.S. Census � New York � Chemung � Veteran Roll: M432_486 Page: 104 19 Sep 1850 CAMPBELL Abagail 53 CT Lorinda 25, Mary 20, Elvira 18, Roana 17, John 12, Judson 7, all b NY Judson 59 carpenter CT By childrens' birth dates/places Judson came from Kent, Litchfield Co CT to Veteran by 1830 but possibly by 1825. My ged is online free at ancestry.com if you want to see all I have on this family. OK. Judson Jr has a son Charles born about 1880. John also named a son Charles 1875 but that one was born Tama Co, IA. There is a married Charles at Veteran on 1850 census, born about 1823 CT who could likely be another son of Judson Sr's. I picked up these Campbells because their eldest that I know of, Elizabeth/Betsy was born May 1820 CT and married Aaron McKinney. I mainly research McKinney and Hill surnames there in Chemung County. Before 1836 you need to be looking in Tioga Co, NY and get to know what places will be Chemung - not that people didn't wander. Early on, folks at Catherine, Cayuta, and Erin were basically the same folks, often related at least, as at Veteran although Catherine and Cayuta will get cut off and be part of Schuyler Co - and I see a Charles there at Cayuta on 1840 census index. Can't say it's so of everyone, but my folks out in those areas later gravitated toward "town" at Horseheads for the greater part. From 1850 onward you will see more immigration from outside the US to Chemung. > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:07:01 EDT > From: Joycelr@aol.com > Subject: Re: info on any Charles Campbell > > I've got Charles Campbell on my tree/in my database. Actually, I have 3 > Charles Campbells: > 1. Charles Campbell, b. abt. 1850, location unknown; d. Watkins, NY; m. > Sarah M. Baldwin; 3 children - Mildred, Charles, and Katherine. > 2. Charles Campbell, son of #1 above, b. abt. 1875 [have not done > additional research on this line] > 3. Charles E. Campbell, Jr., d. 1945, buried Maple Grove Cemetery in > Horseheads, relationship to my line unclear but is buried in Maple Grove > Cemetery along with my Campbells [specifically, Henrietta Campbell Barlow, > wife of > William Barlow, b. 1819, d. 1905. > Any of this sound familiar to you or anyone else out there? _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

Joyce and the other volunteers, I would like you to know how much I enjoy and have been helped your research site. I appreciate also the time, money and expense you put into it. In 5 years of doing research I've learned that "brickwalls" don't crumble in a short time. I am finding out information and meeting distant relatives which it has taken me this long to accomplish and I'm just scratching the surface. On these genealogy sites new information is being added all the time when new members add their information and names. Genealogy to me is a work in progress that is continuing all the time and growing. Being a lover of mystery it just spurns me on. I've been very happy to see references to family members on your site. Thank you again for all you do. Sincerely, Sandy Ting