>I just came in from smelling the oderless Orchaid Iris,and smelled the Lilacs through the Pine Pollen.R The Story of Gregorio Cortez > > Gregorio Cortez was a farmer who lived with his brother > Romuldo. Romuldo owned two sorrel mares. One was lame and the > other was fit. A local Texas rancher kept pressuring him to > sell one of his mares, but Romuldo refused. This angered his > neighbor and when Romuldo rejected his overtures, the white > Texan took this as an insult. Mexicans should know their place. > However, Romuldo decided to trick him. He would trade him the > lame mare instead of the healthy one. The Texan was furious > at being taken in a horse trade and demanded that the sheriff > do something about it. The sheriff disregarded the protest but > went to the Cortez ranch to ask them about a reported horse > theft. > > Gregorio asked his brother to go see what the sheriff wanted > and Romuldo told Gregorio that someone wished to speak with > him. One of the posse, a man called Choate, mistranslated what > Romuldo said to Gregorio. He thought Romuldo said, "You are > wanted." Choate then asked Gregorio if he had recently acquired > a horse. Gregorio said no. He had just gotten a mare, but a > mare was not a horse to Gregorio; it was a mare. Sheriff Morris > then informed Gregorio that he was under arrest. Again, a > mistranslation occurred, Morris thought he said, "no white man > is going to take me alive." What Gregorio really said was, > "you can't arrest me for doing nothing." Morris drew his > weapon as Romuldo charged him. He fired and the bullet went > right through his mouth. Morris then turned and fired at > Gregorio, he missed. Gregorio shot back and hit the sheriff. > Morris crawled to the nearby bushes and eventually bled to > death. Choate fled the seen and described the incident as an > attack by the "Cortez Gang." This began the chase of Gregorio > Cortez. > > The newspapers reported that Cortez had headed for the border > but Gregorio had gone north instead. He dropped off his > brother and friends and continued north. A posse headed by > Sheriff Robert Glover soon found the family and proceeded to > torture them until somebody talked. The posse numbered over > fifty men and when they finally reached his friend's house, > they were drunk. Glover charged the building with his guns > blazing. Cortez fired and shot Glover right off his horse. > He then hurried into the brushes. Deputy Swift now entered > the house and began firing. The posse heard shots coming from > the house and fired into the house. In the confusion, the posse > began to shoot at each other. Two of the men died and they > now grabbed 13 year-old Encarnacion and hung him from a tree > until he finally talked. > > When they arrived back in town. The posse informed the > newspapers that they had found ten Winchester rifles and a > bucket of ammunition. None of this was true. Cortez now turned > his attention south. He rode and rode, eluding the chasing > posse. The posse now grew to over 800 men. Still they could > not find Cortez. Once he walked right by them. The posse > complained to the press that his gang was supplying Cortez > with fresh horses so he had an advantage. All across Texas > any crime that happened was blamed on the "Cortez Gang." > The San Antonio press reported, "The only hope was to fill > up the whole country with men and search every avenue for > escape." Finally, Cortez was captured. The trial and the > appeals process lasted 12 long years. Cortez protested his > innocence. He was convicted for the killing one of the posse, > who was actually killed by one of his own men, and later > Glover. He was convicted in the Glover case. Finally, after > years of appeals, the Governor of Texas pardoned him. 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This year there seem to be an abundance of lilacs and the air is pungent with them. Too bad you can't smell the R. What a treat! It is true about those old homesteads. I always notice more when the lilacs are in bloom. Nearly every home in my part of town has one. I'm lucky enought to have 3! Patsy patsy@penn.com Researcher for Potter and Tioga Counties in PA http://www.webspawner.com/users/genealogygame

Locating graves at an old homestead is like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. You can pretty well rule out any land that is tillable. And remember that horses and mules plowed where tractors fear to tread. Knolls with a lone tree are a likely spot. But don't be fooled by fieldstones that appear to be markers, they have a tendency to stand up on their own. A neighbor told me that his grandfather told him never to remove a certain hedgerow because two people were buried there. No way to determine who they might be. The neighbor was a little boy at the time and doesn't remember the name. Back up in my woods, I have a pillar of stones. It does not correspond to any prior boundary lines or homesteads. Could be a grave but I will never know. I have always been curious as to what it was for but have no intention of ever digging under it. Dick McCracken says there is a probe for locating coffins or covered markers. I don't know how well it would work around here. Our major crop seems to be rocks! Lynn Tinsley Gillett, PA Cludy52@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Lynn, > > That is a wonderful suggestion! I would never have thought of that. > > Any tips on how to find old graves on the old homesteads?? > > Marion Scherer > In FL - heart in PA

Don't fret,now that I am over 39 they don't smell anymore.R ----- Original Message ----- From: <RoverLSmith@aol.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 15 01 PM Subject: [PABRADFO] No Lilacs in Florida : ( > All this talk about lilacs and I'm ready to jump on a plane. > > I grew up on two farms about three or four miles apart. The family plot on > one of them is now under a road. The stones were removed and placed in a > local cemetery. Across the road from the other farmhouse was an old > cemetery. The stones from that one were pulled up and tossed against a fence > so they could plow the field (seems they must have been hard up to need that > small lot with all the other land they had). I don't know what became of the > stones, but later someone built a house there and put a garden where the > graves were. > > One of the original homestead houses on the second farm, which burned down in > the 1860s, can still be identified by the trees and flowers. No lilacs, but > there are stars of Bethlehem all over, and probably other flowers that return > each year from bulbs. What really surprised me was there were still > hollyhocks last time I was there. > > I haven't smelled a lilac in over ten years :( > > Debbie > >

I know your dilemma.In the Western Gold country they were stuck in the ground ,because they did not shore-up,stole,died and Gold was more important than burying a stranger or enemy.I have those mounds,found most to be Coyote Holes[manmade] for gold.Shirley knows what I put my gold in.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "lcandbat" <lcandbat@ptd.net> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 15 40 PM Subject: Re: [PABRADFO] Finding Homesteads > Locating graves at an old homestead is like looking for the proverbial > needle in a haystack. You can pretty well rule out any land that is > tillable. And remember that horses and mules plowed where tractors fear > to tread. Knolls with a lone tree are a likely spot. But don't be > fooled by fieldstones that appear to be markers, they have a tendency > to stand up on their own. > > A neighbor told me that his grandfather told him never to remove a > certain hedgerow because two people were buried there. No way to > determine who they might be. The neighbor was a little boy at the time > and doesn't remember the name. > > Back up in my woods, I have a pillar of stones. It does not correspond > to any prior boundary lines or homesteads. Could be a grave but I will > never know. I have always been curious as to what it was for but have no > intention of ever digging under it. > > Dick McCracken says there is a probe for locating coffins or covered > markers. I don't know how well it would work around here. Our major > crop seems to be rocks! > > Lynn Tinsley > Gillett, PA > > > Cludy52@aol.com wrote: > > > Thanks Lynn, > > > > That is a wonderful suggestion! I would never have thought of that. > > > > Any tips on how to find old graves on the old homesteads?? > > > > Marion Scherer > > In FL - heart in PA > >

Hi All, I have just uploaded pages 117 and 118 to the Obituary / Clipping seciton of the site. Both of these pages are submisisons of obits and clippings by site guests. In fact, many of you who have sent in clippings over the past year will be surprised to see your submissions online finally after you were totally convinced I had trashed them. You can get to thie ssection from Box 8A of the Online Research Library of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> Joyce M. Tice

All this talk about lilacs and I'm ready to jump on a plane. I grew up on two farms about three or four miles apart. The family plot on one of them is now under a road. The stones were removed and placed in a local cemetery. Across the road from the other farmhouse was an old cemetery. The stones from that one were pulled up and tossed against a fence so they could plow the field (seems they must have been hard up to need that small lot with all the other land they had). I don't know what became of the stones, but later someone built a house there and put a garden where the graves were. One of the original homestead houses on the second farm, which burned down in the 1860s, can still be identified by the trees and flowers. No lilacs, but there are stars of Bethlehem all over, and probably other flowers that return each year from bulbs. What really surprised me was there were still hollyhocks last time I was there. I haven't smelled a lilac in over ten years :( Debbie

For those of you that are interested in locating ancestors' homesteads, now is the best time to do so in the Tri-County area. If you have a general idea as to the location, look for the blooming lilacs. On my own 276 acre farm, there are four locations of prior homesteads that can be found near the lilacs. Three of them have stone foundations that would be overlooked if not for the lilacs. The fourth has only the wheel ruts to indicate the old homestead, but the lilacs point to where the house had probably stood. Lynn Tinsley Gillett, PA

Lynn is right about that and even earlier the random daffodils also indicate where old homes once stood. In my hill area in Cortland County, many old farms were resorbed by the forest. The lilacs long ago died off from lack of light, but the daffodils never give up. Joyce M. Tice <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-County Genealogy Site of Joyce M. Tice</A>

Would you please get in touch with me about your SKINNER line. I saw your submitted photo on the Tri- county site but no e-mail address. Thanks, Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley arkivemom@aol.com "May you ask the right question of the right person at the right time. " rootsweb sponsor

Thanks Lynn, That is a wonderful suggestion! I would never have thought of that. Any tips on how to find old graves on the old homesteads?? Marion Scherer In FL - heart in PA

Hi All, I have just uploaded revisions to the township pages of Bloss, Brookfield, Nelson, Osceola, and Richmond to include census records which have been online for a while but which were not linked from the township pages. Now they are. Apparently I missed a major upload last winter when I was too busy to pay attention. Check out the new pages. Joyce M. Tice <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A>

Hi List, Have studio photographs of the follwing which I'd be happy to give to descendants of those pictured: Mr. & Mrs. Herman Peters, Redburn, Pa. Aug. 1897 -- I can't even find Redburn in my maps, but it probably was in our area since the photographer was Howe, 137 E. Water St., Elmira, NY. It appears to be a wedding picture; she is sitting in an elaborate chair; he is in suit, vest with watch chain standing next to her. They are both young. Wilson N. Smith, prize baby of Troy, at six months. Very pleasant looking baby sitting in a wicker? chair. No photographer's mark, just a crest which I don't recognize on the cardboard mounting. Mr. A.D. Ellis - distinguished older gentleman. I'd like to claim him as one of my ancestors, but I know he's not. Only clue is photographer's name "Curtiss" - no place. These probably are all within our tri-county area, or a tad to south or west of it. The names are all from handwriting on the back of the photos. Any takers? Norma Jenkins

Hi All I have just linked SIX new Tioga County census transcriptions to the Township pages of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> They are Rutland 1860 Wellsboro 1840 Deerfield 1840 and 1860 Chatham 1840 and 1860 Check them out from the Township Pages of the site. Good luck, Joyce M. Tice

Hi All, I have just added the 1999 reading of the Brace Cemetery of Springfield to the site. There was already an older listing from the 1970s, but it is good to look at both to see what is missing in the intervening years. This cemetery has a story of a stolen and beautiful gate that is included on the pages as well as photos of the gate. Check out Springfield Township at <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> for the story of the stolen Brace Cemetery gate. It points out a very serious problem of cemetery art stolen for sale in the antique market. Joyce M. Tice

Hi All Friends, Helpers and Guests of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> I have added two great new pages to the site today. In the Wills Section of the Online Research Library (Box 6A) you will find the Estate of Betsey BROWN (a.k.a. Betsey Backus). She died childless and her estate was transferred to her many Kennedy nieces and nephews, most of whom were in our Tri-County area. This is a good inventory, not only of her estate, but of the Kennedy Clan. I have also added a very charming 1900 photo of two young rakes in the tobacco shed at Sabinsville to the 1900 Museum. You can reach this both from the 1900 Museum page and from the Clymer Township page. Whatever is going on out there? For the past few days, my mailbox has been packed every day with file submissions of all kinds for the site. You are all very busy typing and scanning. I received more than twenty files just yesterday and also a notice that Linda has formatted a lot more of the census pages from submissions of Fred and the Carltons and Kelly, so I'll be linking those in today also. I am swamped. Glad to see so much participation and so much enthusiasm. While I thought you were quiet because you were all out in the sunshine, you were all hunkered over typing. Over the four years that my site has been in development and the mail list was added to it, I have tried to create a sense of community surrounding the site. The mail list, of course, is another tool to enhance that sense of community. Every once in a while we have a protest from someone who does not want to be part of the community and who thinks it silly that anyone else does, either. I have been very sensitive to those criticisms and have slacked off in enhancing the "community attitude" that has been instrumental in helping the site to grow as it has. I am glad that so many of you have kept that sense of community participation and have continued to help in the development. In the future, when new guests to the list, who are not familiar with our customs and processes, protest that we are too friendly here, you all have my permission to politely ask that person (privately) to please sit in the back row and not ruin our fun. I do consider ourselves a virtual community extended from the actual community of our ancestors who lived here together in the past. Thanks to all of you who contribute to the growth of our collective body of knowledge and body of research materials. Joyce M. Tice <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counti es Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A>

Pat, Ken I'll be there at 10:00. Is there a diner or coffee shop nearby? Dick -- Plan Your Work... Work Your Plan...

Hi All Friends, Helpers and Guests of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> Today's special treat - addition to the site - is four new School Souvenir Booklets. An explanation of what these are and the period of time in which they were issued is included on that page. The ones I have added today are from Burlington, West Burlington, Ward and Rutland Townships. Dates 1898 to 1920. If you are new to the site and list and have never checked these out, please do. The page opens from Box 8B of the Online Research Library. For those of you who have submitted materials that have not yet reached the site, don't despair. Two of the Booklets added to the site this evening have been in my To Do folder for almost a year, and Now FINALLY they are up for all of you to check. That's all for tonight. Joyce M. Tice <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A>

Hi Everyone, Ken and I will be at Checkerville Cemetery Saturday morning at about 10:00 AM. Lynn Tinsley started this cemetery, and we are going to finish it. Will probably be done by noon. Pat Raymond

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