Robert,I have a personal question to ask you----where the hell do the rocks keep coming from???????Look at Ireland.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Matthews" <rmatthews6196@penn.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 18 43 PM Subject: Re: [PABRADFO] wringer washers > Well, I guess I just HAVE to add my two cents worth to this one. > I got married at the ripe age of 15 in 1965. We bought a wringer washer > because it was what I was accustom to. > The washer went through 3 kids and 12 years of that marriage. In 1980 I had > to move & sold the washer to a friend who STILL has it!!! > I have a dryer. It sits in the basement waiting for the day that I might > get an electric plug in to plug it in to......in the meantime, I have two > clotheslines. One is in the backyard and the other is on the front porch > (for rainy days). Guess you know which clothes line I have been using; > hunh? Will this rain EVER stop? > Spent this evening removing stones and rocks from our freshly plowed and > disced three acres. As I slung them to the sides I wondered if there really > will come a time when we can get our veggies in. > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren & Kathleen Barrett" <furndr@tenforward.com> > To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:01 PM > Subject: [PABRADFO] wringer washers > > > > I am the 7th of 10 children. I was born in 1941 and my mother continued > > using her wringer washer well into the late 50's and early 60's. She just > > didn't want to make the switch. She taught me how to use the washer, and > > how to lift the clothing from the very hot wash and rinse waters with a > > stout rod--then using the rod to get the clothing started as they were put > > into the wringer. Once I was assigned the job of helping my sister-in-law > > learn to use the washer when she and my brother were staying with us. I > > guess I got a little sidetracked. When my sister-in-law said something > had > > jambed the wringer, I told her the problem was my arm was caught in > > it--almost up to the elbow. I didn't suffer anything from that experience > > except embarrassment. > > > > My mother also had a hard time using a clothes dryer. She seldom used one > > even when one was in our home. She preferred hanging them on the clothes > > line. That is one experience I really miss--gathering freshly washed and > > dried clothes from the outside clothes line. They still smelled good when > > in the winter they froze on the line and had to be thawed inside the house > > on an old wooden clothes rack. Thanks for the memories. > > > > Kathleen Barrett > > Port Angeles, WA > > > > > > > >

Hi - I still have a Maytag wringer washing machine that my grandmother owned. It went through the Flood of 1972, bounced around in the water in the basement of our home then and again in the flood of 1975 and 1991 and each time it started right up when plugged in. It is proof that the Maytag repair man is the loneliest man in town. I know that this Maytag is older than Moses. Maytag should have coined the phrase - it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' Sue

I am the 7th of 10 children. I was born in 1941 and my mother continued using her wringer washer well into the late 50's and early 60's. She just didn't want to make the switch. She taught me how to use the washer, and how to lift the clothing from the very hot wash and rinse waters with a stout rod--then using the rod to get the clothing started as they were put into the wringer. Once I was assigned the job of helping my sister-in-law learn to use the washer when she and my brother were staying with us. I guess I got a little sidetracked. When my sister-in-law said something had jambed the wringer, I told her the problem was my arm was caught in it--almost up to the elbow. I didn't suffer anything from that experience except embarrassment. My mother also had a hard time using a clothes dryer. She seldom used one even when one was in our home. She preferred hanging them on the clothes line. That is one experience I really miss--gathering freshly washed and dried clothes from the outside clothes line. They still smelled good when in the winter they froze on the line and had to be thawed inside the house on an old wooden clothes rack. Thanks for the memories. Kathleen Barrett Port Angeles, WA

In response to Donna Berner, at the risk of encouraging Roland's mischievous side, I have a friend who grew up in a remote area on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, long before being connected to "civilization" on the Western Shore by the Bay Bridge. He remembers his family having a wringer washer before they had electricity in their house. It was powered by a gasoline motor which had to be "kick started." So Donna, take heart and keep on kicking! At the beginning of the month I made a trip north and visited Farmington Hill in Tioga Co. and the farm where my G-Grandfather, my grandfather and my father were born. The house is now abandoned but hasn't been that way for too long. Maybe someone will "adopt" it. In my travels over those very rural and even remote roads on Farminton Hill I found two roads, McCollum Road and McCollum Hollow Road, which were named for my ancestors who settled that area in the early 1800's. Believe me, after travelling miles and miles down roads that seemed to be only going deeper in the wilderness, I gained a heightened appreciation for the courage of our pioneer ancestors in settling the area. It was a beautiful drive when lilacs were in bloom around many foundations where houses once stood. I also visited 3 cemeteries and located graves of several ancestors thanks to the information on Joyce's website. Another West Virginia thunderstorm is rumbling in the distance. Rain and more rain!! Had better log off! Carolyn Pierce

Carolyn Pierce's thought on wringer washers reminds me of my "job". During WW2 Soap was hard to get. We had to use Ivory bar soap to do the washing. My job was to carve animals or anything I wanted out of the soap. The shavings and my "art" broken up also ended up in the washer. Mike Sheehan _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp

Carolyn Pierce's thought on wringer washers reminds me of my "job". During WW2 Soap was hard to get. We had to use Ivory bar soap to do the washing. My job was to carve animals or anything I wanted out of the soap. The shavings and my "art" broken up also ended up in the washer. Mike Sheehan _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp

My brother and I got the bright Idea to run the muslin bag of grapes through to "help my mother" with her jam!!!!!!!!!Lest I say more.R ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ddberner@aol.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 16 13 PM Subject: [PABRADFO] Washers > I do wish you people wouldn't remember all those things you did with your > GRANDMOTHERS! I did them with my MOTHER -- and even by myself when I became > old enough Mom didn't worry about my getting my arm caught in the wringer. > Your descriptions are wonderful and bring back many memories -- but, Gee! > you make me feel so old!!!! > > Donna Berner > >

I remember using the wringer washer in our dirt floor cellar from about the time I was ten. It was a double tub Dexter, and it really saved time with the two tubs. I'd put hot water soapy bleach water in the one tub, and warm soapy water in the other. We had to use the water for more than one wash cycle. Our old side-armed gas water heater wouldn't reheat fast enough to change water for each load. I would hang the clothes out on the line, and have to hide behind the drying clothes if I saw any of my friends. For I was........ Larry Hunt Pittsburgh, PA

Carolyn and all: I remember my grandmother (the one born in Bradford Co.) teaching me to use the wringer washer, she stressed to always fold the buttons to the inside so that the wringer would not rip them off. Well, kids being kids, I thought I knew better, you guessed it....off went the buttons!! SO..guess who sewed the buttons back on the shirts,ME. My brother stuck his hand in the wringer and still wears the scars. We are having more thunder storms and the southern tier (NYS) is also, hope Joyce's yard isn't flooded. Elizabeth Greene

Hi, Sorry to send this to the whole list, but I have lost the address for the person that asked me for the address for the upcoming Civil Service Exams for New York State. The address is www.cs.state.ny.us Pat Raymond

Roland's recent references to census southern style and wringers has set the wheels a-turning. It had been years since I thought of wringer washers when I spotted one at an auction last Saturday and then on the heels of that came Roland's reference. Since I have been awash with waves of childhood memories of when I helped my grandmother and later, my own early housekeeping days when I used a wringer washer to do the weekly laundry. I remember that Grandma poured bluing in the galvanized tub of rinse water and was always amazed that something blue could cause whites to be whiter! The clothes were squeezed through the wringer rollers and tumbled thinly and obediently into that rinse tub of blue water. The process was then repeated to squeeze out the rinse water with the clothing tumbling this time a waiting clothes basket ready to be hung in warm sunshine and blown dry by the breezes. A dissertation on the science of hanging the laundry out to dry deserves it's own time and space, therefore, today I will not digress from the issue at hand. I don't remember my grandmother or myself ever getting anything caught in the wringer but I do recall a girlfriend in school who caught her hand in the wringer while helping her mother with the laundry. As a result, the ring finger on her right hand was unable to flex so she had to live with that finger sticking straight out for the rest of her natural life. Well, I made up my mind right then and there that I would never ever get anything caught in a wringer and I never did! Isn't it just amazing the progress that has been made in the science of laundry from the time our ancestors had to pound clothes clean on the rocks in a stream or rub them on a wash board to the technology of today? Role definition was less complicated then, I presume. Or, perhaps it hasn't changed so much at all. Maybe it has something to do with the type of washer you use. Well folks, guess I'll go out for a stroll on the banks of river, with tongue in cheek, lean up against the fence that also serves as the West Virginia border and gaze into the muddy waters of the Potomac while contemplating my multiple choice southern census answers. I declare, I've procrastinated about that darn thing long enough! As the Duke would say, "Get it done, Johnny Reb!" For goodness sake, it's nearly time for Capt. Butler to come home. I'm all in a dither! I think he's bringing Ashley Wilkes home for dinner tonight. Y'all come back now! Carolyn Pierce :)

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OK, now stop that!!! My mother had a MANGLE...and I was forbidden to get near the newfangled contraption......but she surely IRONED a lot of things with it!!!!!! Thanks for the memories....Marylyn Dewey Adams (MSA440@aol.com)

I do wish you people wouldn't remember all those things you did with your GRANDMOTHERS! I did them with my MOTHER -- and even by myself when I became old enough Mom didn't worry about my getting my arm caught in the wringer. Your descriptions are wonderful and bring back many memories -- but, Gee! you make me feel so old!!!! Donna Berner

East end of Tuolumne Co.CA.The first Europeans were in CA long before the East got them.Also people forget we have SAR people who fought the Brits.in 76.Our County has a National Park--Yo Semite and the Stanislaus Nation Forest and two main rivers,the Tuolumne and the Stanislaus,but our pop is 155,000.We go from 250 ft to 13,000.R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Selub" <lselub@recy.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 7 59 AM Subject: RE: [PABRADFO] TIOGA PASS,CA > Roland -- where is this? > Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roland Elliott [mailto:RolandElliott@thegrid.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:16 PM > To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PABRADFO] TIOGA PASS,CA > > > Just got back from going over the hill[10,000ft]Tioga Pass got its name long > after Tioga PA.The Sierra,start at about sea level and and climb easterly to > the crest in about 60 miles.Granite is the rock and rain and snow is the > climate--snow at 8000 today and up--,at the Pass the most precious pass in > the world,one step down from heaven,the moisture is over 80 inches,in 7 > miles through volcanic you are at 4500 in high desert where there is less > than 10 inches of moisture,it has only been that way in the last 300 > years.Saw Friends,Relatives and went to LONGVALLEY the most active > Earthquake area in the World-if interested I will send the URL-- and went > from Mono Lake --the only inland ocean that has a active volcano--to the > Caldera of LongValley and up Rock Creek where the earth is emitting CO2 and > killing living things in spots of 1/4-1/2 acre,it just seeps out of the > ground.The electricity for Mammoth comes from geothermal.Tired.R > >

Hi All, I just wanted to let everybody know about the great book I just bought! The Book reads like a who's who of the early Pa. families!!!!! It is called "The Indian Wars of Pennsylvania" by C. Hale Sipe. It's "An account of Indian Events in Pennsylvania, of The French & Indian War, Pontiacs War, Lord Dunmore's War, The Revolutionary War, and the Indian Uprising from 1789-1795." It is subtitled "Tragedies of the Pennsylvania Frontier" & is based primarily on the Penna. Archives & Colonial Records. This is the 2nd edition including supplement & corrections & is 908 pgs. long including index. It is available through the Erie, Pa. Maritime Museum's Shipwright Shop & is reasonably priced at about $30.00 including tx & shipping. For more info you can contact Lee Kosinski (she runs the museum shop) at email addy: lkosinski@team.org. (first letter of email is L) Sincerely, Sharon Lantzy Wygant SURNAMES: Anderson, Como, Hasselor, Heintz, Kingston, Lamer (Leamer, Lehmer), Lantzy (Lenzi), Lydick (Leidig), McAnulty, McCullough, McLane (McLain,McLean, McLene), O'Cain, Patton, Robertson/Robinson, Shankle, Simpson, Sitter, Steen, Stuchell, Thompson (Thomson), White, Wygant.

Roland -- where is this? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Roland Elliott [mailto:RolandElliott@thegrid.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:16 PM To: PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PABRADFO] TIOGA PASS,CA Just got back from going over the hill[10,000ft]Tioga Pass got its name long after Tioga PA.The Sierra,start at about sea level and and climb easterly to the crest in about 60 miles.Granite is the rock and rain and snow is the climate--snow at 8000 today and up--,at the Pass the most precious pass in the world,one step down from heaven,the moisture is over 80 inches,in 7 miles through volcanic you are at 4500 in high desert where there is less than 10 inches of moisture,it has only been that way in the last 300 years.Saw Friends,Relatives and went to LONGVALLEY the most active Earthquake area in the World-if interested I will send the URL-- and went from Mono Lake --the only inland ocean that has a active volcano--to the Caldera of LongValley and up Rock Creek where the earth is emitting CO2 and killing living things in spots of 1/4-1/2 acre,it just seeps out of the ground.The electricity for Mammoth comes from geothermal.Tired.R

It seems some got there "Mammary Gland" in a wringer,because I was not Genie;Well to you I have written a paper about Bodie--you can find out about Bodie--regarding the Caste system cemetery in the Infamous Ghost Town--been there several hundreds of times,also still trying to find Kit Carson's Daughters grave,know when,where and How she died.So Cool it.R

Just got back from going over the hill[10,000ft]Tioga Pass got its name long after Tioga PA.The Sierra,start at about sea level and and climb easterly to the crest in about 60 miles.Granite is the rock and rain and snow is the climate--snow at 8000 today and up--,at the Pass the most precious pass in the world,one step down from heaven,the moisture is over 80 inches,in 7 miles through volcanic you are at 4500 in high desert where there is less than 10 inches of moisture,it has only been that way in the last 300 years.Saw Friends,Relatives and went to LONGVALLEY the most active Earthquake area in the World-if interested I will send the URL-- and went from Mono Lake --the only inland ocean that has a active volcano--to the Caldera of LongValley and up Rock Creek where the earth is emitting CO2 and killing living things in spots of 1/4-1/2 acre,it just seeps out of the ground.The electricity for Mammoth comes from geothermal.Tired.R

Hi List --- I am looking for a copy of the book, Little Pine Valley Story, by Harry L. Stephenson. It is out of print and I have been unable to locate a copy. If any of you run across a copy, please let me know. Or, if any of you have a copy that you would like to sell --- please contact me! I was lucky enough to have a list member copy some pages that had information about my family, the Seaman family, of Tioga county, PA. I would love to have my own copy of the book! Thanks so much, Jan in Lake Forest, CA janventi2@aol.com