Following is an off the wall, "wild" approach to piecing together observations in my quest to obtain information on the lives of my Irish cousins. But I have found that some of these far flung ideas from time to time bear fruit! Thus here goes. Have any of you old timers any knowledge of the "Organizational Chart" of Sheehan Dean and Company through the years, either from personal knowlege or recollection or reading newspapers? I have, on several occasions, seen various firms run advertisements geared to that personal touch listing employees, even running pictures of department heads or managers, especially at Christmas time or for civic events in which a company was congratulating the community or supporting a special event or cause. The reason I inquire is that in my research I note that there were several cousins employed at Sheehan Dean over the years including Sheehans(of course), O'Herrons, Sullivans, Macks and McNamaras. Hopefully, one of you may have been employed there yourself or had a relative employed there. Any input or leads to this request will be most appreciated. Thanks for listening. An optomist. Ken Sullivan Canyon Lake, Ca

Hi All Friends and Guests of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> Martha Magill, Assistant NYS Coordinator for NYGenWeb, has made Chemung County the featured county of the month of July. You can read her very kind review from the Chemung County Page of <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> Joyce M> Tice

I just got a message from another list which mentioned a long-standing law in New York State requiring the marriage license to be issued in the town the bride was from. I would like to know more about this law. How long has it been in existence? Kathleen Barrett Port Angeles, WA

I think this what you are looking for http://www.ctssar.org/articles/price_paid.htm Bobbie. -*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"* - Searching: Speir, Sperry, Proctor, Bailey in AL, MS, GA, KY, TX, CA. Palmer, Pearson, Gillpatrick, Case, Allen, Rice in PA, VT, MA, ME, KS, CA. Bobbie [Speir] Jarvinen <jarvinen@ismi.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JB Wilson" <designs@hevanet.com> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 2:44 PM Subject: [PABRADFO] Signers of Decl of Indep > At this time of year we usually get undated with the document describing > what happened to the original signers of the Declaration of Independance. I > know that the document is at least partially inaccurate, and I know that > the correct information has been posted, however, I have misplaced the > reply or the document containing the corrected statements. Can someone > please send this to me. Thanks. JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR > "Searching for the Living, Honoring the Dead" > <designs@hevanet.com> > Researching: Kangas, Eskola, Mattson, Makkonen, Aho, Runtujarvi, > Barnes, Benedict, Crandle/Crandall, Miner, Ufford, Williams NY/PA > Proud to be a Contributing Sponsor of RootsWeb > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >

Subject: Re: Signers of the Declaration of Independence I got an email from a guy concerning this. I should not send messages late at night. Always seem to goof somewhere. Anyway, I tried to compensate by sending his url. Sorry. http://home.nycap.rr.com/elbrecht/signers/signerindex.html Roland Elliott wrote: > > This has been floating around for awhile>I won;t go into the specifics,but > it is less than 20% true,it is not hard to look up what happened,but this > did not happen.R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb & Ken Marshall" <marchado@pacbell.net> > To: <NORCALCHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 0 03 AM > Subject: Signers of the Declaration of Independence > > > Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the > > Declaration of Independence? > > > > Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured > > before they died. > > > > Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. > > > > Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army > > > > Another had two sons captured. > > > > Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the > > Revolutionary War. > > > > They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their > > sacred honor. What kind of men were they? > > > > Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. > > > > Eleven were merchants > > > > nine were farmers and large plantation owners; > > > > men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of > > Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they > > were captured. > > > > Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships > > swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and > > properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. > > > > Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move > > his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, > > and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, > > and poverty was his reward. > > > > Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, > > Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. > > > > At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British > > General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. > > He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was > > destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. > > > > Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. > > The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. > > > > John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their > > 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were > > laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, > > returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few > > weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. > > > > Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. > > Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. > > These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were > > soft-spoken men of means and education. > > They had security, but they valued liberty more. > > Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: > > "For the support of this declaration,with firm reliance > > on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually > > pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." > > > > They gave you and me a free and independent America. > > The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the > > Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. > > > > We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! > > Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. > > So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and > > silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they > > paid. Remember: freedom is never free! > > > > I read this on another list and thought I'd share it. > > > >

At this time of year we usually get undated with the document describing what happened to the original signers of the Declaration of Independance. I know that the document is at least partially inaccurate, and I know that the correct information has been posted, however, I have misplaced the reply or the document containing the corrected statements. Can someone please send this to me. Thanks. JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JB Wilson, Beaverton, OR "Searching for the Living, Honoring the Dead" <designs@hevanet.com> Researching: Kangas, Eskola, Mattson, Makkonen, Aho, Runtujarvi, Barnes, Benedict, Crandle/Crandall, Miner, Ufford, Williams NY/PA Proud to be a Contributing Sponsor of RootsWeb ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Richard Stockton is my direct line.R .............................................................. The Boston Globe Monday, July 3, 2000 56 great risk-takers By Jeff Jacoby Globe Columnist On July 2, 1776, the Continental Congress voted 12-0 -- New York abstained -- in favor of Richard Henry Lee's resolution "that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States." On July 4, the Declaration of Independence drafted by Thomas Jefferson -- heavily edited by Congress -- was adopted without dissent. On July 8, the Declaration was publicly proclaimed in Philadelphia. On July 15, Congress learned that the New York Legislature had decided to endorse the Declaration. On Aug. 2, a parchment copy was presented to the Congress for signature. Most of the 56 men who put their name to the document did so that day. And then? We tend to forget that to sign the Declaration of Independence was to commit an act of treason -- and the punishment for treason was death. To publicly accuse George III of "repeated injuries and usurpations," to announce that Americans were therefore "Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown," was a move fraught with danger -- so much so that the names of the signers were kept secret for six months. They were risking everything, and they knew it. That is the meaning of the Declaration's soaring last sentence: "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." Most of the signers survived the war; several went on to illustrious careers. Two of them became presidents of the United States, and among the others were future vice presidents, senators, and governors. But not all were so fortunate. Nine of the 56 died during the Revolution, and never tasted American independence. Five were captured by the British. Eighteen had their homes -- great estates, some of them -- looted or burnt by the enemy. Some lost everything they owned. Two were wounded in battle. Two others were the fathers of sons killed or captured during the war. "Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." It was not just a rhetorical flourish. We all recognize John Hancock's signature, but who ever notices the names beneath his? William Ellery, Thomas Nelson, Richard Stockton, Button Gwinnett, Francis Lewis -- to most of us, these are names without meaning. But each represents a real human being, some of whom paid dearly "for the support of this Declaration" and American independence. Lewis Morris of New York, for example, must have known when he signed the Declaration that he was signing away his fortune. Within weeks, the British ravaged his estate, destroyed his vast woodlands, butchered his cattle, and sent his family fleeing for their lives. Another New Yorker, William Floyd, was also forced to flee when the British plundered his property. He and his family lived as refugees for seven years without income. The strain told on his wife; she died two years before the war ended. Carter Braxton of Virginia, an aristocratic planter who had invested heavily in shipping, saw most of his vessels captured by the British navy. His estates were largely ruined, and by the end of his life he was a pauper. The home of William Ellery, a Rhode Island delegate, was burned to the ground during the occupation of Newport. Thomas Heyward Jr., Edward Rutledge, and Arthur Middleton, three members of the South Carolina delegation, all suffered the destruction or vandalizing of their homes at the hands of enemy troops. All three were captured when Charleston fell in 1780, and spent a year in a British prison. "Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." Thomas Nelson Jr. of Virginia raised $2 million for the patriots' cause on his own personal credit. The government never reimbursed him, and repaying the loans wiped out his entire estate. During the battle of Yorktown, his house, which had been seized by the British, was occupied by General Cornwallis. Nelson quietly urged the gunners to fire on his own home. They did so, destroying it. He was never again a man of wealth. He died bankrupt and was buried in an unmarked grave. Richard Stockton, a judge on New Jersey's supreme court, was betrayed by loyalist neighbors. He was dragged from his bed and thrown in prison, where he was brutally beaten and starved. His lands were devastated, his horses stolen, his library burnt. He was freed in 1777, but his health had so deteriorated that he died within five years. His family lived on charity for the rest of their lives. In the British assault on New York, Francis Lewis's home and property were pillaged. His wife was captured and imprisoned; so harshly was she treated that she died soon after her release. Lewis spent the remainder of his days in relative poverty. And then there was John Hart. The speaker of the New Jersey Assembly, he was forced to flee in the winter of 1776, at the age of 65, from his dying wife's bedside. While he hid in forests and caves, his home was demolished, his fields and mill laid waste, and his 13 children put to flight. When it was finally safe for him to return, he found his wife dead, his children missing, and his property decimated. He never saw any of his family again and died, a shattered man, in 1779. The men who signed that piece of parchment in 1776 were the elite of their colonies. They were men of means and social standing, but for the sake of liberty, they pledged it all -- their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. We are in their debt to this day. ==== Dutch-Colonies Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, personal messages, flames, etc. is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal and exclusion from this mailing list. For comments or list administration questions,please contact Holly Timm hollyft@bright.net ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

> Does anyone know if the lodges from 1850 are still in existence in Tioga County > ? And if so, can records be accessed ? Thanks Cynthia Dickinson ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - $7.99/mo! ------

HI All, I have begun the page I promised detailing some of the cemetery plaques and flagholders I have been photographing. You can reach the new section directly from the Front Page of the site at <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counties Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A> So far, I only have five pages developed but many more will be coming. The marker I had there yesterday as the Mystery Marker has been identified as Sons of Union Veterans. I have placed another mystery marker in its place on the opening page of that new section. Please let me know if you can identify the organization that provided it. On some of the other pages, I have questions that I'd appreciate all of you attempting to help me answer. Remember, this site is only as good as YOUR participation. Ask not only what this site can do for you. Ask what you can do for this site. (Paraphrase of John Kennedy) Have a nice Fourth of July. I will be going to see my parents in PA and will be scouring the cemeteries along the way for MORE FLAGHOLDERS. I really do know how to get carried away. Joyce M. Tice <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/jmtindex.htm">Tri-Counti es Genealogy & History Sites of Joyce M. Tice</A>

Civil War Vets of Tioga County! I'm SO VERY GLAD Joyce urged us to use this wonderful new resource. I could not see how it might benefit me, but I took a gander, and there was my gg grandmother Delana's, brother, James M. Patterson! I've been searching for Delana's folks for 2 years. Apparently 14 year old James moved to Pennsylvania with his sister when she married Wilder Lunn. Today I used one of my NATF form 80's to send for James' military papers, pension, etc. THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT RESOURCE TOOL! Pat Wilson

I am searching for information on the Masters family from Liberty area of Tioga County., PA. Mary MASTERS b 1851 d.1924 m Frederick Walter RAUSCHER b 1836 d 1918. Fred and Mary are buried in unmarked graves in Arbon Cemetery, Blossburg, PA . I think ( but have not substantiated) that Mary Master's mother was Sarah Masters and father was George Masters. I have no dates for either. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me ! Jane Rauscher Elliott Emigrated to New Hampshire from New Jersey

Today is for those that fell at Gettysburg,I had 1KIA,and 1WIA. WAR DATES AREA French-Spanish 1565-67 Florida English-French 1613-1629 Canada Anglo-French 1629 St.Lawrence Riv. Pequot War 1636-37 New England ??? 1640-45 New Netherland Iroquois 1642-53 New Eng.; Acadia Anglo-Dutch July 1653 New Netherland Bacon's Rebellion 1675-76 Virginia King Philip's 1675-76 New England War In North 1676-78 Maine Culpepper's Reb'n 1677-80 Carolinas Leisler's Rebellion 1688-91 New England Revolution in MD 1689 Maryland Glorious Revolution 1689 New England King Willliam's War 1689-97 Canada Queen Anne's 1702-13 New England Tuscarora 1711-12 Virginia Jenkin's Ear 1739-42 Florida King George's 1740 GA & VA Louisbourg 1745 New England Fort Necessity 1754 Ohio Anglo-French 1755-58 Canada French & Indian 1754-63 New Eng;VA Siege of Quebec 1759 Canada American Revolution 1775-83 USA Wyoming Valley 1782-87 Pennsylvania Shay's Rebellion 12/1786-1/1787 Massachusetts Whiskey Insurrection 1794 Pennsylvania Northwestern Indian 1790-95 Ohio War with France 1798-1800 Naval War with Tripoli(Naval) 1801-05 North Coast Africa Burr's Insurrection 1806-1807 South Mississippi Valley Chesapeake (Naval) 1807 Virginia Northwestern Indian 1811 Indiana Florida Seminole Indian 1812 FL (GA Volunteers) War of 1812 1812-15 General Peoria Indian 1813 Illinois Creek Indian 1813-14 South Lafitte's Pirates 1814 Local Barbary Pirates 1815 North Coast Africa Seminole Indian 1817-18 FL & GA Lafitte's Pirates 1821 Galveston Arickaree Indian 1823 Missouri Riv; Dakota Terr Fever River Indian 1827 Illinois Winnebago Indian 1827 Wisonsin Sac & Fox Indian 1831 Illinois Black Hawk 1832 Illinois & Wisconsin Toledo 1835-36 Ohio & Michagan Texan 1835-36 Texas Indian Stream 1835-36 New Hampshire Creek Indian 1836-37 Georgia & Alabama Florida (Seminole) 1835-42 FL, GA, & AL Sabine / Southwestern 1836-37 Louisiana Indian Cherokee 1836-38 --- Osage Indian 1837 Missouri Heatherly Distrubance 1836 Missouri Mormon 1838 Missouri Aroostook 1839 Maine Dorr's Rebellion 1842 Rhode Island Mormon 1844 Illinois Mexican 1846-1848 Mexico Cayuse Indian 1847-48 Oregon TX & NM Indian 1849-55 --- California Indian 1851-52 --- Utah Indian 1850-53 --- Rogue River Indian 1851, 1853, 1856 Oregon Oregon Indian 1854 Oregon Nicaraguan 1854-58 Naval Kansas Troubles 1854-59 Kansas Yakima Indian 1855 Local Klamath & Salmon 1855 Oregon & Idaho River Indian Florida Indian 1855-58 Florida John Brown's Raid 1859 VA War of Rebellion 1860-65 General Cheyenne 1861-64 Local Sioux 1862-63 Minnesota Indian Campaign 1865-68 OR, ID, CA Fenian Invasion of 1866 From New England Canada Indian Campaign 1867-69 KS, CO & Ind. Terr. Modac Indian 1872-73 Oregon Apaches 1873 Arizona Indian Campaigns 1874-75 KS, CO, TX, NM, & Indian Territory Cheyenne & Sioux 1876-77 Dakota Nez Perce 1877 Idaho Bannock 1878 ID, Washington Terr. & Wyoming Terr. White Riv. (Ute Ind.) 1879 Utah & Coloradp Cheyenne 1878-79 Dakota & Montana Spanish-American 1898-99 Cuba Phillippine Insurrection 1899-1902 Philippine Islands --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello Sharron, I think that the Huyck Farm (Homestead) and the Sam Roof farm are the same location. Refering to "Standing Stone Township Cemeteries" by Linda C. English (1992), the site is refered to as "Huyck Cemetery on Sam Roof Farm." Also, "The Huyck Cemetery.....at least two people buried there......William Huyck and Richard Fitzgerald........"The cemetery is situated on the property now owned by Robert and Mary Jane Roof." Frank Packer ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Vossoughi" <rsvossoughi@worldnet.att.net> To: <PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: [PABRADFO] Veterans of Bradford Co. > Joyce, > Just had a chance to check out the Veterans of Bradford Co., compiled by > Dick McCracken. It is FABULOUS! Since I have only one Bradford Co., > connection I was reluctant to spend my time there, but in five minutes I > found three hits and we haven't even got to my Van Dykes yet. > According to military records, William Huyck was buried on the Roof > Farm. I am wondering if this is the cemetery site now referred to as Huyck > Farm. > Thank you, Dick and thank you, Joyce. I urge every list member to explore > this site. The Fourth of July timing is perfect. > Happy and safe Fourth to all. > Sharron Vossoughi > Modesto CA > > >

Joyce, Just had a chance to check out the Veterans of Bradford Co., compiled by Dick McCracken. It is FABULOUS! Since I have only one Bradford Co., connection I was reluctant to spend my time there, but in five minutes I found three hits and we haven't even got to my Van Dykes yet. According to military records, William Huyck was buried on the Roof Farm. I am wondering if this is the cemetery site now referred to as Huyck Farm. Thank you, Dick and thank you, Joyce. I urge every list member to explore this site. The Fourth of July timing is perfect. Happy and safe Fourth to all. Sharron Vossoughi Modesto CA

Two quick questions: The 1850 federal census of Elmira took place during which month(s)? Also in 1850, during that census, was there a German Catholic Church in Elmira? John mmjk@cyberback.com Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/ Created by some very cool ladies. I'm humbled: http://johnkoppfanclub.homestead.com/index.html

We owe Dick McCracken a huge thank you for compiling this list and making it available and to Joyce who is working so many hours and so diligently to get it on line. Many many thanks to the both of you! The site just keeps getting better and better! J. Kelsey Jones

Dear Family and Friends "On Friday, July 3, 1778 about 2:00 P.M. some three hundred and seventy five men marched out of Forty Fort, Luzerne County PA to the fife and drum's "St. Patrick's Day in the Morning" to meet the British and Indians. It is reported that they were the first to carry the "stars and stripes", our new national flag, into battle." In that small army of valiant men were Captain Obadiah Gore, his sons Samuel, Daniel, Asa, George, Silas, their sisters' husbands, Timothy Pierce and John Murphy. Only 171 men survived the battle. Gone were Asa, George, Silas, Timothy and John. Daniel barely escaped with his life. Samuel (my 5th Great Grandfather) escaped to the swamp and was within a couple of feet of an Indian and was almost discovered. Obadiah was in the fort helping to protect the women. He was instrumental in negotiating the surrender. After the battle the survivors WALKED to Connecticut leaving their dead family members where they were slain. Many more died along the way. The following year, Samuel went on to help defeat the Indians and British in the area with Sullivan's Expedition. On this busy Holiday weekend, please take a moment to reflect on the supreme sacrifices our ancestors made so that we can have this great Country that we enjoy today. In our busy lives we seldom take the time to appreciate those who came before us and the dangerous lives they lived or even how precarious our own existence is! If you want to read more about the Wyoming Massacre...check out this great site where I quoted the above opening remarks. http://members.xoom.com/reader/wyoming.htm If you want to read Samuel's account of the Battle or his brother Obadiah Jr.s account, email me and I will send it to you. Have a safe and Happy 4th of July Celebration. God Bless America! Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

"Car shops" were railroad car repair facilities. Most railroads had such shop at convenient locations in their operating territories. Very few still exist. Chuck Bullock

I have an ancestor listed as the foreman of car shops in the 1874-1875 ciyt diectory for Elmira, NY. What were these car shops? Tim Drake

Probably rail cars. Lynn "TIMOTHY A.DRAKE" wrote: > I have an ancestor listed as the foreman of car shops in the 1874-1875 > ciyt diectory for Elmira, NY. What were these car shops? > > Tim Drake