Okay, the guys (and some of the women) are probably thinking we've all gone nuts, but I do think it's important - and fun - to preserve some traditions. Also, most of our grandmothers and some of our moms were housewives, and took great pride in their cooking and their special "receipts." I'm glad the devil's food cake turned out. That was just a shot in the dark, because I could identify the woman in the census! If you're going to misbehave and eat things SOME people say you shouldn't, try a couple of the recipes I put online. I got us started, with some of my mom's (Sally's) scrumptious recipes I did manage to save (including my unusual coconut wedding cake), plus a couple other good ones I make all the time. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/blair/receipts.htm Contributions gladly accepted, and I'll try to add them between typing obits and playing with the granddaughter. My grandmother used bacon to flavor her vegetables, made her pie crusts with lard, and lived to be 88, so I agree with the folks who've said good health and long life aren't entirely determined by the foods we eat. That said, and having sat here too long, I'm going for a long walk, folks. Then maybe I'll make a shoo-fly pie (which recipe, btw, is for the "dry" rather than the "wet" pie). I wouldn't want my cholesterol, sugar and iron levels to drop too far. Judy P.S. Note that the text with the photo of the range says the store is "near the subway." What subway? P.P.S. I always cook and bake wearing a dress, a ruffled organdy apron, and heels; don't you?