A Genealogist's Christmas Eve (author unknown) 'Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. The dining room table with clutter was spread With pedigree charts and with letters which said... "Too bad about the data for which you wrote Sank in a storm on an ill fated boat." Stacks of copies of old wills and the such Were proof that my work had become much too much. Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. And I at my table was ready to drop From work on my album with photos to crop. Christmas was here, and of such was my lot That presents and goodies and toys I forgot. Had I not been so busy with grandparent's wills, I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. While others had bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; I'd spent time researching those birth dates and years. While I was thus musing about my sad plight, A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. Away to the window I flew in a flash, Tore open the drapes and I yanked up the sash. When what to my wondering eyes should appear? But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. Up to the housetop the reindeer then flew, With a sleigh full of toys, and old Santa Claus too. And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. The TV antenna was no match for their horns, And look at our roof with hoof-prints adorned. As I drew in my head, and bumped it on the sash, Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! "Dear" Santa had come from the roof in a wreck, And tracked soot on the carpet, (I could wring his short neck!) Spotting my face, good old Santa could see I had no Christmas spirit, you'd have to agree. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk). Here was Santa, who'd brought us gladness and joy; When I'd been too busy for even one toy. He spied my research on the table all spread "A genealogist!" he cried. (My face was all red!) "Tonight I've met many like you", Santa grinned. As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. I gazed with amazement - the cover it read "Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled." "I know what it's like as a genealogy bug," He said as he gave me a great Santa Hug. "While the elves make the sleighful of toys I now carry, I do some research in the North Pole Library! A rare special treat I am thus able to bring, To genealogy folks who can't find a thing. Now off you must go to your bed for a rest, I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess." As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, I looked back at Santa who'd brought much to me. While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, To his team which then rose like the down of a thistle And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!"

Ham pot pie is EASY, boil for three hours (at least) a good part of a semi boneless ham with the bone in (a good ham makes at least three meals and this is the last meal) then take about a cup of broth or so, put it in a bowl, add an egg if you want, I like it without the egg, add flour til it "feels right" and roll it out til it doesn't give any more, make it thin or it won't taste right. and cut it into squares with a butter knife, add potatoes if you like to the broth and ham in the pan, and then make sure the broth and ham are boiling, oh and make sure to add one pot pie square in one place in the boiling broth at a time.Add enough pot pie so a spoon going through feels the squares. Don't just dump in the pot pie squares. let this cook about 20 minutes or so and if it gets too think add more water. I LOVE ham pot pie. PABLAIR-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >PABLAIR-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 373 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [PABLAIR-L] Recipes, Genealogy and ["Janet L. Gray" <janetgray@zoomint] > #2 [PABLAIR-L] Recipes [Ljwaring@aol.com] > #3 [PABLAIR-L] Seeking information on [Joe & Stephanie Grohol <joeandstep] > #4 Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels ["Barbara" <maragold@sssnet.com>] > #5 [PABLAIR-L] Re: Rivvels [J1Weston@cs.com] > #6 [PABLAIR-L] Poor Man's Cake Recipe ["Janet L. Gray" <janetgray@zoomint] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from PABLAIR-D, send a message to > > PABLAIR-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [PABLAIR-L] Recipes, Genealogy and Christmas Wishes > From: > "Janet L. Gray" <janetgray@zoominternet.net> > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 04:12:39 -0800 > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > >Seasons Greetings List, >I have included in my genealogy records recipes from various relatives. I thought I would share that with you and perhaps someone might enjoy doing the same. It would be a sin for all those "Stick To Your Ribs" recipes be lost in future generations. > >I hope "EVERYONE" has a "Merry Christmas" and "Happy New Year". > >Janet Gray (In Maryland eating raisin filled cookies for breakfast) > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [PABLAIR-L] Recipes > From: > Ljwaring@aol.com > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:10:49 EST > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > >While we are on the food list Is there anyone out there who knows how to >make the old fashioned Ice Cream with the old churn. I remember Mother >scalding milk then adding cream and eggs. I sure would like to surprise my >husband with it. You can contact me offline. > >Thanks > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [PABLAIR-L] Seeking information on Wilson Carroll and Family > From: > Joe & Stephanie Grohol <joeandsteph@cqservices.com> > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:41:56 -0500 > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > > Hi... > > I am seeking more information on Wilson Carroll and his > family....Wilson was born Feb 11, 1857 in Johnstown, PA, died Feb 8, > 1947 in Montgomery Co. MD) and he married Elizabeth Virginia (Jeannie) > Sleasman(Oct 14,1860 in Smithsburg, MD, died Feb 1, 1932 in > Smithsburg, MD) on April 4, 1881. I am wondering if someone could help > me in locating Wilson in the census before 1900. His parents were > William Carrell (1816) and Mary Avey(20 Mar 1814). I have found Wilson > and family in the 1900 and beyond census. Wilson and Elizabeth's > children were: Ethel Ann Carroll( born:Sept 6, 1882...any info on her > would be great....in her mother's obit it is stated that she was > living in 1932 in Newark, NJ), Mabel Irene Carroll Pratt( born 13 Sep > 1887 in MD and died 05 Feb 1961 in Laurel Maryland..she married Henry > Pratt...any info on them would be great), Susan L. Carroll(I have info > on her, she was my great grandmother), George William Carroll (02 Dec > 1890 in Smithsburg, MD and died 12 Mar 1979 in Winter Haven, Fl. He > married Melissa or Malissa(born abt 1889 died in 1981 in Orlando, FL) > and they had 5 children: Viola(Abt 1905), Helen (Abt 1907), George W. > (Abt 1909), Carl W. (Abt 1914) and Raymond (Abt 1915)...seeking more > info on this family also). Naomi Ruth Carroll Bowen(01 Feb 1895, in > Waynesboro, PA and died 09 May 1990 in Riverside, CA but her interment > was in Rappohannack Baptist Church Cemetery, Rappohannack, VA). She > married William Tyler Bowen (07 Feb 1899 in Newburg, West Virginia and > died 19 Oct 1984 in Rockville, MD. while visiting a granddaughter). > They married and had two children that I could find in the 1930 > census. Any information on them would also be great) and the last > child of Wilson and Elizabeth was: Esther Josephine Carroll > Roggenkamp( 19 Jun 1900 in Smithsburg, MD, died 11 Oct 1987 in > Foneswood, Virginia) She married a Arthur Wilbur Roggenkamp (08 Dec > 1901 in New York, died May 1973 in Warsaw, VA) Any information would > also be great on them. > > Any help anyone can give me would be great.....appreciate whatever > info any one can give me. > > Stephanie Grohol > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels > From: > "Barbara" <maragold@sssnet.com> > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:08:06 -0500 > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hah! Rivvels... and ham pot pie! The stuff I grew up on! Food of the Rhodes >family and Basslers, I'm sure. > >Barb Vaughan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "C.A. Feathers" <cafeat@pacbell.net> >To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:03 PM >Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels > > > > >>Ham Pot Pie was on our dinner table at least twice a month when I was a >> >> >kid. > > >>YUM YUM! >> >>Chet >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <SPratt1591@aol.com> >>To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 5:52 PM >>Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels >> >> >> >> >>>Hi to all, I just have to add my memory of Ham Pot Pie. It was sort of >>> >>> >>like >> >> >>>the Riwels excepts it was ham-based with squares of dough and potatoes >>> >>> >>cooked >> >> >>>in the ham stock. It is such a great memory of my Grandmother's cooking >>> >>> >>and >> >> >>>my Mother's. My sister still makes it and it brings back such good >>> >>> >>memories. >> >> >>> My family of 6 brothers and sisters love it. Has anyone heard of this >>>version? Sandie >>> >>> >>>==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== >>>Blair County was formed in 1846 from portions of Bedford and Huntingdon >>> >>> >>Counties. >> >> >>> >>> >> >>==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== >>Access all PA Data boards here: >>http://www.pa-roots.com/data.html >> >> >> > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [PABLAIR-L] Re: Rivvels > From: > J1Weston@cs.com > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:22:41 EST > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > >You guys sure made me hungry! My Grandma used to make the best Chicken Corn >Soup with Rivvels. The secret to a good broth is to add hard boiled eggs to >the soup and let all that good cholesterol in the yoke thicken it up! I can >hear my arteries hardening now! > >Merry Christmas! > >June > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [PABLAIR-L] Poor Man's Cake Recipe > From: > "Janet L. Gray" <janetgray@zoominternet.net> > Date: > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:04:51 -0800 > To: > PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi List, >I have the recipe for Poor Man's Cake and if anyone wants a copy; Email me off list and I will send it to you. > >Happy Holidays, >Janet > > --

Hi List, I have the recipe for Poor Man's Cake and if anyone wants a copy; Email me off list and I will send it to you. Happy Holidays, Janet

You guys sure made me hungry! My Grandma used to make the best Chicken Corn Soup with Rivvels. The secret to a good broth is to add hard boiled eggs to the soup and let all that good cholesterol in the yoke thicken it up! I can hear my arteries hardening now! Merry Christmas! June

Hah! Rivvels... and ham pot pie! The stuff I grew up on! Food of the Rhodes family and Basslers, I'm sure. Barb Vaughan ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.A. Feathers" <cafeat@pacbell.net> To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels > Ham Pot Pie was on our dinner table at least twice a month when I was a kid. > YUM YUM! > > Chet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SPratt1591@aol.com> > To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels > > > > Hi to all, I just have to add my memory of Ham Pot Pie. It was sort of > like > > the Riwels excepts it was ham-based with squares of dough and potatoes > cooked > > in the ham stock. It is such a great memory of my Grandmother's cooking > and > > my Mother's. My sister still makes it and it brings back such good > memories. > > My family of 6 brothers and sisters love it. Has anyone heard of this > > version? Sandie > > > > > > ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== > > Blair County was formed in 1846 from portions of Bedford and Huntingdon > Counties. > > > > > > > > ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== > Access all PA Data boards here: > http://www.pa-roots.com/data.html > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002

Hi... I am seeking more information on Wilson Carroll and his family....Wilson was born Feb 11, 1857 in Johnstown, PA, died Feb 8, 1947 in Montgomery Co. MD) and he married Elizabeth Virginia (Jeannie) Sleasman(Oct 14,1860 in Smithsburg, MD, died Feb 1, 1932 in Smithsburg, MD) on April 4, 1881. I am wondering if someone could help me in locating Wilson in the census before 1900. His parents were William Carrell (1816) and Mary Avey(20 Mar 1814). I have found Wilson and family in the 1900 and beyond census. Wilson and Elizabeth's children were: Ethel Ann Carroll( born:Sept 6, 1882...any info on her would be great....in her mother's obit it is stated that she was living in 1932 in Newark, NJ), Mabel Irene Carroll Pratt( born 13 Sep 1887 in MD and died 05 Feb 1961 in Laurel Maryland..she married Henry Pratt...any info on them would be great), Susan L. Carroll(I have info on her, she was my great grandmother), George William Carroll (02 Dec 1890 in Smithsburg, MD and died 12 Mar 1979 in Winter Haven, Fl. He married Melissa or Malissa(born abt 1889 died in 1981 in Orlando, FL) and they had 5 children: Viola(Abt 1905), Helen (Abt 1907), George W. (Abt 1909), Carl W. (Abt 1914) and Raymond (Abt 1915)...seeking more info on this family also). Naomi Ruth Carroll Bowen(01 Feb 1895, in Waynesboro, PA and died 09 May 1990 in Riverside, CA but her interment was in Rappohannack Baptist Church Cemetery, Rappohannack, VA). She married William Tyler Bowen (07 Feb 1899 in Newburg, West Virginia and died 19 Oct 1984 in Rockville, MD. while visiting a granddaughter). They married and had two children that I could find in the 1930 census. Any information on them would also be great) and the last child of Wilson and Elizabeth was: Esther Josephine Carroll Roggenkamp( 19 Jun 1900 in Smithsburg, MD, died 11 Oct 1987 in Foneswood, Virginia) She married a Arthur Wilbur Roggenkamp (08 Dec 1901 in New York, died May 1973 in Warsaw, VA) Any information would also be great on them. Any help anyone can give me would be great.....appreciate whatever info any one can give me. Stephanie Grohol

While we are on the food list Is there anyone out there who knows how to make the old fashioned Ice Cream with the old churn. I remember Mother scalding milk then adding cream and eggs. I sure would like to surprise my husband with it. You can contact me offline. Thanks

Seasons Greetings List, I have included in my genealogy records recipes from various relatives. I thought I would share that with you and perhaps someone might enjoy doing the same. It would be a sin for all those "Stick To Your Ribs" recipes be lost in future generations. I hope "EVERYONE" has a "Merry Christmas" and "Happy New Year". Janet Gray (In Maryland eating raisin filled cookies for breakfast)

Also have had them in chicken and corn soup. Nothing better!! We really should get on another topic. My cholesterol has gone up nearly 30 points just from reading email. ;-) Merry Christmas to all. "C.A. Feathers" wrote: > > Ham Pot Pie was on our dinner table at least twice a month when I was a kid. > YUM YUM! > > Chet -- Ken Boonie Co-Coordinator, PaGenWeb Project Huntingdon County http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin/ PROVERBS 3:13 How blessed is the man who finds wisdom, And the man who gains understanding.

Thanks, Helen, for that bit of history and the recipe. My husband, Ron, is sitting here and when I read off your note to him, he asked if anyone on the mail-list would have the recipe for Poor Man's Cake maybe? Would love to get it for making it for our Christmas this week. Wishing all a very Merry Christmas. Thanks. Sue Meinhart in southern CA

My Grandmother from Indiana County made Ham Pot pie, my Dad and Mom both make it and now my wife carries on the tradition. Merry Christmas to all Ross

Hi to all, I just have to add my memory of Ham Pot Pie. It was sort of like the Riwels excepts it was ham-based with squares of dough and potatoes cooked in the ham stock. It is such a great memory of my Grandmother's cooking and my Mother's. My sister still makes it and it brings back such good memories. My family of 6 brothers and sisters love it. Has anyone heard of this version? Sandie

Hi Thank you to all of you who answered my request for the location of "Poplar Run". Happy Holidays! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

One more off list RIVEL receipt.Mine is BROWN FLOUR TATOR AND RIVEL SOUP.Having grown up here in ALTOONA, one of, if not the poorest family in town mum had to make meals with what she could find,(oh the good old goverment commaunity line),you would cook up diced tators,add your rivels to that and make a rue of bacon grease and add that to the water and you had the best meal you ever did taste,to this day I still make it for my family, my kids loved it growing up it is a old COVE reciept that we here in Pa still love.To this day I can't throw away bacon grease all my sisters save it for me and all my daughter in laws now have a bacon grease can in their fridges.HAVE A NICE CHRISTMAS ALL.HELEN IN PA

Ham Pot Pie was on our dinner table at least twice a month when I was a kid. YUM YUM! Chet ----- Original Message ----- From: <SPratt1591@aol.com> To: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Rivvels > Hi to all, I just have to add my memory of Ham Pot Pie. It was sort of like > the Riwels excepts it was ham-based with squares of dough and potatoes cooked > in the ham stock. It is such a great memory of my Grandmother's cooking and > my Mother's. My sister still makes it and it brings back such good memories. > My family of 6 brothers and sisters love it. Has anyone heard of this > version? Sandie > > > ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== > Blair County was formed in 1846 from portions of Bedford and Huntingdon Counties. > >

Hi List, The word rivvel means "lump" and this soup is full of lumps that look like rice. (From Dutch cookbook). My Mother's (85 yrs young born in Blair County) recipe: Brown 2 teaspoons of butter in pan. Add 2 quarts of milk or meat stock and bring to boil. Drop in rivvels and cook 8 to 10 minutes. Stir constantly. Make rivvels from 3/4 cup flour and one egg. Mix together with fingers until crumbly. *Note- she said with the air so dry this time of year you may have to use an extra egg. Also eggs today are not the same as years ago; they are so much smaller. in size. Mom also said that my Grandfather (Harvey B. Miller) did not like the soup, so my Grandmother (Catherine B. Stiffler) would take the rivvel dough and fry it in butter for him and he would eat it with molasses or syrup on it. I hope everyone has a "Merry Christmas" and a "Happy New Year". Janet Gray

Hi listers, I know this is an "off-list" subject, but it's Christmas! My mom, raised in Altoona, made what she called "beans and rivvels". It was a thick bean soup, made with ham bone, and then she made the rivvels and cooked them in the soup. I liked the rivvels better than the beans. I hadn't thought of it in years. Her family was Irish and German, but I'm sure the recipe was her mother's. I have an old "butcher book" of my grandmother's, with her hand-written recipes in it, for such things as chow-chow, quince honey and green tomoto mincemeat. It's a treasure I am transcribing for the family before it disintegrates completely. Happy holidays to you all! Janet in Va. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Jean, Thanks for supplying the name "Rivvel". It made me remember the recipe. My maternal grandmother (Swiss-German) made Rivvel and I can remember watching her make this. Grossie (as we called her) would put about 1 quart of milk in a pan, add some butter, and start to heat it. Then she would put 1 cup of flour right on her mixing board that my grandfather made for her, and add about 1/2 teaspoon of salt and mix it in with the flour and make a hole in the middle of the flour. She would break an egg into the hole and mix this with a fork and her fingers, then break it up into smaller pieces. Finally she would take several of the small chunks in her hands and hold them over the top of a pan of simmering milk and rub her hands together making the small chunks even smaller as they fell into the milk. She repeated the hand-rubbing of the chunks until they were all in the milk. After it came to a boil she would turn the heat off. Sometimes Grossie would use chicken or beef stock instead of milk. I miss her. Grated potato pancakes were another of my favorite treats she made. I can almost taste them as I remember the many times I sat in her kitchen watching her cook. I wish she were still here so I could discuss our ancestry with her. When you are young, you just don't realize how important your ancestry is. Connie -----Original Message----- From: JeanShar40@aol.com [mailto:JeanShar40@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:43 AM To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PABLAIR-L] Farmer's Rice Farmer's rice was I believe the German ''Rivvel''. Noodle dough rubbed as fine as one could thru the hands in boiling broth. Also could be put thru a ''ricer'' as sometimes potatoes were. M Jean Sharbaugh researching early Cambria Co families; Luther, Baker, Kuntz, Sherry,Cramer, Weakland, Kirkpatrick, Sharbaugh, Platt, Miller ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== No flaming permitted on this list! There is a one flame and you are out rule in effect.

Farmer's rice was I believe the German ''Rivvel''. Noodle dough rubbed as fine as one could thru the hands in boiling broth. Also could be put thru a ''ricer'' as sometimes potatoes were. M Jean Sharbaugh researching early Cambria Co families; Luther, Baker, Kuntz, Sherry,Cramer, Weakland, Kirkpatrick, Sharbaugh, Platt, Miller

Hi, Do you remember any of the ingredients? Perhaps we know it by another name. Mery Christmas To All, Janet