Would anyone know who the parents of Jacob Zimmerly are? I was also wondering if anyone knows if there is a ship list that shows where this Zimmerly family came from? In the 1850 Census Earl Twp., Berks County list Jacob Zimmerly family, who was born about 1796 in Germany. 1850 Earl Twp., Berks Co., PA Roll 754 p. 470 Jacob Zimmerly, 54, b. Germany Margaret Zimmerly, 54, b. in Berks County David Zimmerly, 6 Margaret Zimmerly, 4 Sarah Zimmerly, 10 There was no Jacob Zimmerley household in PA in 1820, but then this Jacob would have only been 16 and probably still living at home with his parents. We know the 1850 census says Jacob was born in Germany around 1796, and his eldest child, Jacob was born in 1825 in PA. We can assume then that the senior Jacob Zimmerly arrived in America between his own birth in 1796 and the birth of his son the junior Jacob Zimmerly in 1825. Which means that he could have been in his fatherâs household in America as early as 1800. In 1820 there were only two Zimmerlys in PA. One, a Henry, lived in Bedford County and one lived in Montgomery County. The one in Montgomery County, by proximity, would be a more likely candidate for the father of the senior Jacob Zimmerly. That was Isaac Zimmerly who lived in Skippack and Perkiomen, Montgomery County, PA. The 1820 census leaves a lot to be desired and I found it impossible to determine if there was a male child in the household that would have been the right age for Jacob. There were 2 males and 1 female in the household. There were no Zimmerlys 1810 or 1800 PA census, but there was an Isaac Zimmerman in both. It is unknown whether Isaac Zimmerman of 1800 and 1810 would be the same as Isaac Zimmerly of 1820. Living next door to Isaac in 1810 was a Jacob Zimmerman. 1810 Whitpain, Twp., Montgomery Co., PA Roll 52, p. 1256 Isaac Zimmerman, 3 males, 4 females Jacob Zimmerman, 4 males, 4 females 1800 Whitpain Twp., Montgomery Co., PA Roll 41 p. 116 Isaac Zimmerman, 2 males 16-26, 2 males 26-45; 1 female 16-26, 1 female 26-45, 1 female over 45. Jacob Zimmerly Sr. b. 17 Mar 1797 in GERMANY d. 5 Aug 1851 Earl Twp., Berks Co., Pa. Wife: Margaret b. c.1796 d.1865 Douglass Twp., Berks Co., Pa. Married c. 1824. Children: Jacob B. Zimmerly Jr. b. 25 Oct 1825, Mary Ann, Hannah b. 21 Aug 1824, Christiana, Elizabeth, Sarah Ann,David B, Anna Margaret and Daniel. Notes: Hannah Zimmerly was baptized on 17 Oct 1824 at the Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, Pa. The sponsorâs for Hannahâs baptism were David Koerbe & Cath. Reis. There was also another son named Daniel Zimmerly who was born 29 July 1826 and baptized on 15 Oct 1826. The sponsors for Danielâs baptism were John Kauch & Hannah Baum; (Daniel may have died young). Jacob Zimmerly Sr. (1797-1851) is buried at the former Zionâs Church of the Evangelical Association (1850-1962), 1204 Montgomery Ave. New Berlinville, Berks Co., Pa. 19545. 1851 Berks Co., Administration & Estate Papers for Jacob Zimmerly Sr. state that: âJacob Zimmerly of Earl Twp., Berks Co., Pa. died intestate leaving a widow named Margaret and issue eight children to wit, Jacob B., Mary Ann married to a Conrad Pley/Bley, Hannah married to Henry Nester, Christiana, Elizabeth, Sarah Ann, David B. and Anna Margaret, (the last five being minors of whom Petitioner (Ezikiel Rhoads) is Guardianâ. 1865 Douglass Twp., Berks Co., Administration & Estate Papers for Margaret Zimmerly shows that she was the widow of Jacob Zimmerly. The Administrator for the estate was her son Jacob B. Zimmerly Jr. Also mentioned in the papers is her son David B. Zimmerly. Note: Margaret Zimmerlyâs maiden name may have been Baum. Naturalization records are on file at the Prothonotary's office in the Berks County Court House in Reading, PA. I believe their Naturalization records begin at 1795 which doesn't help much since I am looking for something before that date. The records prior to 1795 are probably in the Philadelphia court records. Perhaps the Prothonotary's Office Archive Center as listed below might have records prior to 1795. PLEASE NOTE: The Archive Center is open Tuesday & Thursday from 10:00 am to 4: 00 pm Prothonotary's Office Archive Center Berks County Courthouse, 2nd Floor 633 Court Street Reading, PA 19601 Hours: Tuesday & Thursday - 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Phone: 610-478-6970 x3486 Regards, Jeff Hepler -----Original Message----- >From: paberks-request@rootsweb.com >Sent: Mar 26, 2011 3:00 AM >To: paberks@rootsweb.com >Subject: PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 77 > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > >When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 76 (jeffrey61@earthlink.net) > 2. HILL Guardianship/Census Question (Walter Blenderman) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:31:50 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >From: jeffrey61@earthlink.net >Subject: Re: [PABERKS] PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 76 >To: paberks@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <25915162.1301045511026.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >1. I am looking for the a Reading Eagle Obituary for Elizabeth Ritter Esterly Wife of Amos S. Esterly. Elizabeth Ritter Esterly died March 2 1908 and was buried March 5 1908 at the Charles Evans Cemetery. Can anyone help to find her obituary??? > >2. I have spent a lot of hours going through all of the deeds and wills ect...I have found nothing to establish the father son relationship between Francis Ritter 1710-1785 and his son George Ritter 1732/33-1808. There is nothing that I have seen that proves this generation. > >Does anyone have anything that can help in establishing the father son relationship between Francis Ritter 1710-1785 and his son George Ritter 1732/33-1808? This generation is missing.... > >Francis Ritter b.1710 d.1785 married c. 1730 to Barbara b. c. 1712 d. unknown. They were the parents of > >1. my George Ritter b. 17 Feb 1732/1733 d. 18 Nov 1808 > >2. Israel Ritter b. abt 1737 d. unknown > >3. Francis/Franz Ritter b. 26 Aug 1741 d. 24 Jul 1825 > >Where is the proof/documentation to prove father son-relationship between Francis Ritter 1710-1785 and his son George Ritter 1732/33-1808? > >Kindest regards, >Jeff >jeffrey61@earthlink.net > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: paberks-request@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Mar 25, 2011 3:00 AM >>To: paberks@rootsweb.com >>Subject: PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 76 >> >> >> >> ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== >> >>When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) >> 2. Re: Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) >> 3. Re: Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) >> 4. 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Re: Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:01:03 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301007503.16949@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: Ottostein63 >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>I am having trouble finding an Obituary. Has anybody else had trouble or have any tips why there would not be something in the paper marking her death? >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:11:31 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301008291.12602@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: DJStanish >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>If you post the name and date of death you're looking for I'll see what I can do. >> >>Deb >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:35:18 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301009557.20112@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: Ottostein63 >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>It Would Be Sarah Ann Hottenstein/ married name Henn Died 05/02/1933 . My family says they believe she either committed suicide or was murdered thats why i would have thought for sure there would be news of her actaul death instead i only find info. about court posting between her and her husband. >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 4 >>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:40:48 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301010049.13746@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: bjburdan >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.2/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>The OCR in the search engine at the Reading Eagle archives leaves something to be desired. If you know the date of death or near date of death, check the obituaries in each paper around the date of death for abou5 5-6 days after. I have found many obituaries that did not come up as a search, result even though they were there. >> >>Betty Burdan >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 5 >>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:03:15 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301011396.29689@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: DJStanish >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>Attached is what I found. I hope you can read them ok. >> >>Deb >>Reading, PA >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 6 >>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:42:42 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301013763.22042@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: Ottostein63 >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>Wow How did you find them? I would like to attach them to my tree do you know how i could do that? >> >>Thank you so much. >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 7 >>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:52:16 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301014336.20075@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: DJStanish >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>I just do a search from the date of death to 4 or 5 days after. I usually find the obituary on the same day or the day after, but sometimes it's up to 5 or 6 days later. Most obituaries ARE NOT found by using the person's name. >> >>I usually just save the clippings to my pictures and upload them to my tree as a photo. >> >>Deb >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 8 >>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 04:03:21 -0000 >>From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" >>Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Reading Eagle in the Google News Archives >>To: >>Message-ID: <1301025640.37218@rootsweb.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Author: Ottostein63 >>Surnames: >>Classification: queries >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.coun ties.berks/10129.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>thanks >> >>Important Note: >>The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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The male >child, according to the will, is to inherit the property (200-300 >acres) when he reaches the age of 21. In the meantime, a guardian is >to be appointed for him, to oversee the estate and protect his rights. >My question is this: > >In the 1800 and 1810 census will the "head of household" for the >property be listed as the mother or the guardian? (I have not found >the mother in Windsor Township in the 1800 census.) > >Also note that the mother, Hannah, apparently remarries UNKNOWN WEIGLY >some time before 1803, when there is a request for guardians - Orphans >Court 5:51, from what I understand. Unfortunately, I do not know the >name of the appointed guardian. Nothing similar to WEIGLY appears in >the 1810 census, either. > >Any information, legal or otherwise, would be appreciated. > >Lynn K. Blenderman >*************************************************************************** ********* >They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. >Benj. Franklin, 1759 > >Walter G. Blenderman, Lynn K. Blenderman, N. Plainfield, NJ, USA >**mailto:netchemist@earthlink.net*******************************http://www. blenderman.net >** > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the PABERKS list administrator, send an email to >PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the PABERKS mailing list, send an email to PABERKS@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of PABERKS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 77 >**************************************