Rita et al According to Google, Switzerland dates from at least 1291. In the early 1800's it was conquered by France and left with an in-place government set up by France. Religious differences set Canton against Canton about 1839-48 and civil war broke out briefly in 1850. We've been talking about German families immigrating to Switzerland and then about 1852 immigrating to America. Perhaps social unrest there at that time was a motivating factor along with the attraction of America. Steve -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Rita Maury" <maurys_53@msn.com> > I will keep this just in case something connects. Thank you. Rita > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marklevon@aol.com > To: paberks@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration > > > > Here is the transcription from 1852 > > > > > > > Name: > > > Jacob Maurer > > > > > > > > > Arrival Date: > > > 9 Apr 1852 > > > > > > > > > Estimated Birth Year: > > > abt 1847 > > > > > > > > > Age: > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > Gender: > > > Male > > > > > > > > > Port of Departure: > > > Liverpool, England > > > > > > > > > Destination: > > > United States of America > > > > > > > > > Place of Origin: > > > Switzerland > > > > > > > > > Ethnicity/Race- > /Nationality: > > > Swiss > > > > > > > > > Ship Name: > > > America > > > > > > > > > Search Ship Database: > > > Search the America in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database > > > > > > > > > Port of Arrival: > > > New York > > > > > > > > > Line: > > > 13 > > > > > > > > > Microfilm Serial: > > > M237 > > > > > > > > > Microfilm Roll: > > > M237_111 > > > > > > > > > List Number: > > > 311 > > > > > > > > > Port Arrival State: > > > New York > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Stone > > To: paberks@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 6:35 pm > Subject: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding our Swiss vs. German discussion... > Germany didn't look like it did today in the mid 1800s. Has anyone > checked to see if Switzerland was yet a separate country then? It is > possible Switzerland was another one of those chunks of Germany that > elected to be apart when the boundaries were established. There is a > piece of "Germany" called "East Prussia" Based on OUR maps, it does not > exist. Yet, as late as the 1960s it sure enough showed up on German > maps. We simply call it part of Poland. A major town in East Prussia > is Gedansk (SP?). Germany claimed it because it was settled by Germans, > perhaps dislodging folks already there. Same with the Alsace-Lorraine > country between Germany and France. That border has been 'contested' > for hundreds if not thousands of years. A friend of mine claimed her > relatives immigrated from Russia. Their surname couldn't be more German > "Gotlieb" (I may have transposed the I and E like I frequently do in > German). Yet they were 'Russian' because the town was in Russia at the > time of immigration. For Europe, it is often best to know a town where > someone was from...the national boundaries change frequently over the > course of a few hundred years. > > I guess it's kinda like folks from "French West Africa." > > James > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states > .pennsylvania.counties.berks> localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states > .pennsylvania.counties.berks> localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states > .pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message