Elaine.......not at Smoke, but at Mertz: In 'Berks Co Church Records of the 18th Century', F Edward Wright, vol 4, pub 1999, page 174: Benjamin KLEIN, born 1/21/1791, s/o Philipp and Elisab., Mertz Lutheran Church(Christ Church on Bieber Creek), bapt 4/10, spons: David KLEIN and wife Catharine. I think this David may be brother of Philip as he and wife Catharine had several children born in 1780-1800 period in various churches in that area. In 'Montgomery Co PA Births 1682-1800', by John T Humphrey, pub 1993, page 247, there is a Philip KLEIN bapt on 6/17/1764, s/o Michel and Catharina, at St Paul's Lutheran aka New Goshenhoppen Lutheran, in Upper Hanover. He could be your Philip, father of Benjamin. Marriages at Christ/Mertz Lutheran Church, Rockland Twp: Michael KLEIN, s/o Moritz to Catharine Schufert, d/o Joh. George, in Jun 1750. [Source: Vol 2 of Berks Co Marriages, pub 1987 by HP Publications] Tumble, tumble with these possibilities! Deaths in Reading Adler: (Tuesday 12/31/1816 Edition) Elizabeth KLEIN, wife of Benjamin of Maxatawny Twp., this county, died during the night of Nov 26-27th, aged 24years,7mos, 26 days. Tuesday 5/1/1821 Edition: David KLEIN, of Maxatawny, this county, died last week at a pretty old age. Will Abstract: David KLEIN, Maxatawny will of 3/12/1821, probated 5/4/1821 Provides for wife Catharine Son Jonathan to get tract where I live after 10 years. Other children, after 10 years to be divided: Catharine, David, Christiana, Benjamin, Gideon and Leah. Execs: Frederick Bobbenmoyer, Christian Lookenbill and Jonathan Klein Wits: Reuben Kline, Jacob Graeff and Jas. Donagan. Am copying my reply to the PABERKs list so others can join in who have some of these KLEINs in that area.... Diana in AL audianaq@msn.com ________________________________ From: bellemarco@gmail.com To: audianaq@msn.com Subject: RE: Berks County Lookups - Smoke Church - KLEIN/KLINE Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 Diana, I think I am finally on the right track. Can you please tell me if you have the following Benjamin Klein/Kline listed at St. Paul’s Smoke Union Church, Windsor Twp. in the book you have? Benjamin Klein/Kline b. Jan 21 1791 son of Philip Klein/Kline and Elisabeth. (He is not the one below below who is son of Philip, Jr. and Catharina). From what I can find, whether right or wrong I do not know, this Philip and Elizabeth had the following children: John, Mary, Samuel, Elizabeth b. 1787, Philip b. 1788, Israel b. 1803, Daniel b. 1804, Solomon and this Benjamin b. 1791 (I hope!) I think the brick wall is coming tumbling down. Well, either it’s coming down or I am finally going crazy!! Thank you. Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA ________________________________