Yvonne, Who was your Maurer immigrant ancestor? I am descended from two Maurer immigrant lines (from the 1700s). Maybe we can connect some missing pieces. Elaine (Maurer) Moran ----- Original Message ----- From: <marklevon@aol.com> To: <jdroppel@aristotle.net>; <paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration > > Jack, you do not say when your family came to this country. My Maurer > family was indeed German, and we even knew the town name, however, I had > never been able to find his immigration. I did some historical research, > and found that at the time of his immigration, there was a war going on in > Germany. I accidentally found him emmigrating from Switzerland. > Apparently, he left Germany and went to Switzerland, stayed there a few > years until he had the money for passage, then left from Switzerland. He > never shared this little piece of his immigration with family!?? Yvonne > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jdroppel@aristotle.net > To: paberks@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 4:36 pm > Subject: Re: [PABERKS] [PALEHIGH] [PANORTHA] weber/weaver > > > > > > > > > > > Reminder - > > I caution researchers who have yet to discover their immigrant's point of > european origin . . > the immigrant may well be Swiss and, although they spoke German and had > records > recorded in German script, be very much a Switzer not a German. I thought > mine > were German for years based upon a tombstone which said "from Germany" but > they > were very much Swiss when I found these ancestors in the Faust book on > 18th > century Swiss emigrants to America, along with fellow passengers leaving > Switzerland the same year and arriving in AMerica the same year on > outgoing and > incoming immigrant lists! > > Jack Ruple (Swiss is "Roppel") > > P.S. > > I've been reading all the great emails from you, Geri, and others . . . > maybe > someday I will find Hans Jacob Roppel (Ruple, or variant - 1767 emigrant > from > Switzerland) just as I found my direct ancestor Martin Roppel (Ruple) who > instead went to Charleston, South Carolina, another GErman Swiss port in > the > 18th century. > > > > > Geri Brennan <gerifelker@webtv.net> wrote : > >> lehigh co.. history >> weaver family. >> frederick weber, who is believed to have been the emigrant ancestor of >> this >> branch was doubtless a german, for in the collection of the his. soc. of >> pa., >> and in a deed of conveyance of the property to his son george in 1770, >> his > name >> is wriiten in german scrip "freyedrich weber" the date of his > arrival >> is unknown but probably prio to 1727, inamuch as his name does not appear >> in > the >> list of those who took the oath. >> >> weaver family. >> the ancestor of the weaver family emigrated from germany and settled in >> va., >> afterward locating in lehigh co. then northampton. he had a son valentine >> who >> married a miss weygandt. >> >> Best Wishes, Geri >> >> >> ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== >> PABERKS@rootsweb.com >> >> To contact the List Administrator: >> Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> To visit the Berks Message Board: >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks >> >> To visit the Berks County, PA website: >> http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ >> Hosted by Nancy Freehafer >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> the message > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 > 10:03 AM > >
Regarding our Swiss vs. German discussion... Germany didn't look like it did today in the mid 1800s. Has anyone checked to see if Switzerland was yet a separate country then? It is possible Switzerland was another one of those chunks of Germany that elected to be apart when the boundaries were established. There is a piece of "Germany" called "East Prussia" Based on OUR maps, it does not exist. Yet, as late as the 1960s it sure enough showed up on German maps. We simply call it part of Poland. A major town in East Prussia is Gedansk (SP?). Germany claimed it because it was settled by Germans, perhaps dislodging folks already there. Same with the Alsace-Lorraine country between Germany and France. That border has been 'contested' for hundreds if not thousands of years. A friend of mine claimed her relatives immigrated from Russia. Their surname couldn't be more German "Gotlieb" (I may have transposed the I and E like I frequently do in German). Yet they were 'Russian' because the town was in Russia at the time of immigration. For Europe, it is often best to know a town where someone was from...the national boundaries change frequently over the course of a few hundred years. I guess it's kinda like folks from "French West Africa." James
Could any of your Maurer's ended up being Maury's or Maurey's? Rita RHoads Maury. My folks were in Schuylkill and Lehigh Co, PA with a branch that may have moved to Ohio but for sure on that moved to Detroit. ----- Original Message ----- From: ELAINE MORAN<mailto:demoran@verizon.net> To: paberks@rootsweb.com<mailto:paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration Yvonne, Who was your Maurer immigrant ancestor? I am descended from two Maurer immigrant lines (from the 1700s). Maybe we can connect some missing pieces. Elaine (Maurer) Moran ----- Original Message ----- From: <marklevon@aol.com<mailto:marklevon@aol.com>> To: <jdroppel@aristotle.net<mailto:jdroppel@aristotle.net>>; <paberks@rootsweb.com<mailto:paberks@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration > > Jack, you do not say when your family came to this country. My Maurer > family was indeed German, and we even knew the town name, however, I had > never been able to find his immigration. I did some historical research, > and found that at the time of his immigration, there was a war going on in > Germany. I accidentally found him emmigrating from Switzerland. > Apparently, he left Germany and went to Switzerland, stayed there a few > years until he had the money for passage, then left from Switzerland. He > never shared this little piece of his immigration with family!?? Yvonne > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jdroppel@aristotle.net<mailto:jdroppel@aristotle.net> > To: paberks@rootsweb.com<mailto:paberks@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 4:36 pm > Subject: Re: [PABERKS] [PALEHIGH] [PANORTHA] weber/weaver > > > > > > > > > > > Reminder - > > I caution researchers who have yet to discover their immigrant's point of > european origin . . > the immigrant may well be Swiss and, although they spoke German and had > records > recorded in German script, be very much a Switzer not a German. I thought > mine > were German for years based upon a tombstone which said "from Germany" but > they > were very much Swiss when I found these ancestors in the Faust book on > 18th > century Swiss emigrants to America, along with fellow passengers leaving > Switzerland the same year and arriving in AMerica the same year on > outgoing and > incoming immigrant lists! > > Jack Ruple (Swiss is "Roppel") > > P.S. > > I've been reading all the great emails from you, Geri, and others . . > maybe > someday I will find Hans Jacob Roppel (Ruple, or variant - 1767 emigrant > from > Switzerland) just as I found my direct ancestor Martin Roppel (Ruple) who > instead went to Charleston, South Carolina, another GErman Swiss port in > the > 18th century. > > > > > Geri Brennan <gerifelker@webtv.net<mailto:gerifelker@webtv.net>> wrote : > >> lehigh co.. history >> weaver family. >> frederick weber, who is believed to have been the emigrant ancestor of >> this >> branch was doubtless a german, for in the collection of the his. soc. of >> pa., >> and in a deed of conveyance of the property to his son george in 1770, >> his > name >> is wriiten in german scrip "freyedrich weber" the date of his > arrival >> is unknown but probably prio to 1727, inamuch as his name does not appear >> in > the >> list of those who took the oath. >> >> weaver family. >> the ancestor of the weaver family emigrated from germany and settled in >> va., >> afterward locating in lehigh co. then northampton. he had a son valentine >> who >> married a miss weygandt. >> >> Best Wishes, Geri >> >> >> ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== >> PABERKS@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com> >> >> To contact the List Administrator: >> Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com> >> >> To visit the Berks Message Board: >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> >> >> To visit the Berks County, PA website: >> http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/<http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/> >> Hosted by Nancy Freehafer >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> the message > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com> > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com> > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/<http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/> > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com> > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com> > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/<http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/> > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - 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