Here is the transcription from 1852 Name: Jacob Maurer Arrival Date: 9 Apr 1852 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Age: 5 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: Switzerland Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: Swiss Ship Name: America Search Ship Database: Search the America in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 13 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_111 List Number: 311 Port Arrival State: New York -----Original Message----- From: James Stone <jandsstone@cableone.net> To: paberks@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 6:35 pm Subject: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration Regarding our Swiss vs. German discussion... Germany didn't look like it did today in the mid 1800s. Has anyone checked to see if Switzerland was yet a separate country then? It is possible Switzerland was another one of those chunks of Germany that elected to be apart when the boundaries were established. There is a piece of "Germany" called "East Prussia" Based on OUR maps, it does not exist. Yet, as late as the 1960s it sure enough showed up on German maps. We simply call it part of Poland. A major town in East Prussia is Gedansk (SP?). Germany claimed it because it was settled by Germans, perhaps dislodging folks already there. Same with the Alsace-Lorraine country between Germany and France. That border has been 'contested' for hundreds if not thousands of years. A friend of mine claimed her relatives immigrated from Russia. Their surname couldn't be more German "Gotlieb" (I may have transposed the I and E like I frequently do in German). Yet they were 'Russian' because the town was in Russia at the time of immigration. For Europe, it is often best to know a town where someone was from...the national boundaries change frequently over the course of a few hundred years. I guess it's kinda like folks from "French West Africa." James ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will keep this just in case something connects. Thank you. Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: marklevon@aol.com<mailto:marklevon@aol.com> To: paberks@rootsweb.com<mailto:paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration Here is the transcription from 1852 Name: Jacob Maurer Arrival Date: 9 Apr 1852 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Age: 5 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: Switzerland Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: Swiss Ship Name: America Search Ship Database: Search the America in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 13 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_111 List Number: 311 Port Arrival State: New York -----Original Message----- From: James Stone <jandsstone@cableone.net<mailto:jandsstone@cableone.net>> To: paberks@rootsweb.com<mailto:paberks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 6:35 pm Subject: [PABERKS] Swiss vs Germany Immigration Regarding our Swiss vs. German discussion... Germany didn't look like it did today in the mid 1800s. Has anyone checked to see if Switzerland was yet a separate country then? It is possible Switzerland was another one of those chunks of Germany that elected to be apart when the boundaries were established. There is a piece of "Germany" called "East Prussia" Based on OUR maps, it does not exist. Yet, as late as the 1960s it sure enough showed up on German maps. We simply call it part of Poland. A major town in East Prussia is Gedansk (SP?). Germany claimed it because it was settled by Germans, perhaps dislodging folks already there. Same with the Alsace-Lorraine country between Germany and France. That border has been 'contested' for hundreds if not thousands of years. A friend of mine claimed her relatives immigrated from Russia. Their surname couldn't be more German "Gotlieb" (I may have transposed the I and E like I frequently do in German). Yet they were 'Russian' because the town was in Russia at the time of immigration. For Europe, it is often best to know a town where someone was from...the national boundaries change frequently over the course of a few hundred years. I guess it's kinda like folks from "French West Africa." James ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com> To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com> To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/<http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/> Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com> To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com> To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks> To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/<http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/> Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message