This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10481/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To PABerks maillist folks: For some reason, email to the PABerks maillist is bouncing. Does anyone who has MSN mailbox have this problem? I just tried to send an email to the list and to Keith Nuttel, and it rejected to PA Berks but Keith's went thru. Yesterday Microsoft (MSN) updated, and I am thinking something is messed up between rootsweb and msn? This happened about 4 yrs ago after an update! Any advise? I will try the rootsweb help desk to see if anyone else has reported a problem. If anyone else has had this problem today, please email me if they solved it. Diana in AL audianaq@msn.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
The Ludy family seemed to move back & forth between Montgomery & Berks County.I am searching for the cemetery were 4 Ludy family members are buried. Thought an obituary might help.Franklin Ludy, died 1 Jul 1951; Horace Ludy, died 20 Mar 1942; Mary (or Mamie) Ludy, died 1960; Emma Ludy Davidheiser, died 13 May 1947.Sharon snkgenealogy@hotmail.com
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Diana, thanks so much for all the work you went to to share this Schaffer information re. two Anna Barbaras. Right, my Anna Barbara Schaffer Brosius would not be the daughter of this Michael Schaffer. But perhaps she is the Barbara daughter of Johannes Schaffer born at East Cocalico, Lancaster County. I'll cross my fingers that other readers may be able to verify this or even venture some comments. Thanks again. Jerry ________________________________ From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: PABERKS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 4:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Schaffer and endless variations This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Schäffer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10479.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jerry, In Berks Co Births 1710-1780, by John T Humphrey, there is an Anna Barbara SCHÄFFER born 4/4/1732 to Michael and Anna Margaret (GLEB) SCHÄFFER, [spons: Nicholas Schäffer and wife] in records of Reed's/Reith's Church, Marion Twp. They had several children at that church, including Johannes Nickolaus b 2/24/1722 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Hannes Adam Stern.] Johann Casper b. 10/7/1724 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Casper Schäffer Maria Margaretha b 9/29/1726 [spon: Michel Rith and wife] Maria Catharina b. 2/16/1728 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Johann Michael b. 3/26/1730 [spon: Michael Müller and wife] Anna Maria b.1/17/1739 [spon:Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Margretha Elisabetha b 3/21/1741 [spons: Margaretha Elisabetha Rith and Hannes Schäffer] Elisabeth b. 12/14/1743 [spon: Johann Reinhardt Rohrer and wife. Here is a note about the church from the same source by Wright: Originally Lutheran it was organized between 1723-1727. The earliest surviving register is the one begun by Moravian pastors in 1742 when they took over the church and remained with them. The original is in the Moravian Archives, Bethlehem. The church is now Zion-St John's on East Main St, Stouchsburg, near Tulpehocken, locating into town in 1895. Further info is shown in F Edward Wright's, 'Berks Co. Church Records of the 18th century, Vol 3, page 72: Michael Schäffer b 1/15/1696, spons: Michel Suder and Anna Catharina Schäffer. Anna Margaretha Gleb b 9/8/1702, spons: Anna Margaretha Mershred They were married 11/22/1720 and their children listed are same as the ones listed above. I added sponsor info for their baptisms in [brackets], shown in this book, for each child shown above. This Anna Barbara is the earliest name I could find in 1730s in Berks Co. Hope this is her family. But may not be as there is a will abstract for this Michael Schäffer probated in 9/1760, Tulpehocken, wife Anna Margreta, and his dau Anna Barbara is married to a Phillip Brown. Oldest son is John Nicklaus. Youngest daughter is Elisabeth. Dissappointed....sorry to give you all that info, and then see she is not the one you are looking for. Now here is another one born in Lancaster Co: This is from PA Births 1680-1800, CD $196 by Family Tree Maker: Child: Anna Barbara Schäffer Birth/Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1730 Location: Muddy Creek Lutheran, East Cocalico Township County: Lancaster State: Pennsylvania Father: Johannes Schäffer Mother: Mrs. ??? Schäffer Muddy Creek is barely in Lancaster Co, west of Berks. Could she be the one you need? In Rev. John Casper Stoever's (Lutheran pastor) marriages: Anna Barbara Schäffer and Nicolaus Brosius were married 4/19/1752 at Altolhoe church. Diana in AL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Keith, no I have no collateral line Schaffers (etc. spellings) in my database because of this question of needing to verify/be certain of the true parents of my Anna Barbara Schaffer Brosius (born ca. 1730). I suppose if they can be documented, then we could determine a connection if any. Thanks for replying. Jerry Brosious ________________________________ From: keith nuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> To: paberks@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, January 2, 2013 7:37:15 AM Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Schaffer and endless variations While a slight shift in subject, I saw several things in your message that caught my eye. My 3rd great grandmother Maria (Mary) Schaver (Schäffer) She was born in 1795 and was married to Joshua (Joseph) Barlet on Jun 08, 1817 at Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg, Berks County, Pennsylvania. Joshua Barlet b: Feb 03, 1795 d: Nov 21, 1869 and his wife are found in the 1830 and 1840 in Heidelberg Twp and in the 1850 and 1860 census in Lower Heidelberg Twp. They had 2 children that I have identified Johnathan Barlett b:1824 and Ephraim b:1826. There are three other suspected children; William Samuel and Levenia. Joshua and Mary moved to what is now Mulberry Street in Reading by 1869 and by 1870 they were living in the Rickstown area of Reading where Joshua died. He is buried at the St John Hain Church. There are several events for the family in the church records. Maria is found in the 1870 census in the 6th Ward Reading, but her death date is unknown. She was alive in 1873 living in Rickstown when her son Ephraim died. By chance Is this family in your database? I have been working on this family for 10 years. I first learned from the census that Ephraim Barlet was my 2nd great grandfather and at first thought at first his parents were Daniel and Eva Barlet. I then found Ephraim obituary which gave me Joseph and Mary Barlet as his parents. It took me some years to associate Joseph Barlet with Joshua Barlet the son of Sebastian Barlet. Guns get blamed in shootings because the liberals say teaching the Ten Commandments with "Thou shall not kill" violate the separation of Church and State. On 1/2/2013 5:39 AM, [1]gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Schäffer Classification: queries Message Board URL: [2]http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti es.berks/10479.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jerry, In Berks Co Births 1710-1780, by John T Humphrey, there is an Anna Barbara SCH ÄFFER born 4/4/1732 to Michael and Anna Margaret (GLEB) SCHÄFFER, [spons: Nicho las Schäffer and wife] in records of Reed's/Reith's Church, Marion Twp. They had several children at that church, including Johannes Nickolaus b 2/24/1722 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Hannes Ad am Stern.] Johann Casper b. 10/7/1724 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Casper Schäff er Maria Margaretha b 9/29/1726 [spon: Michel Rith and wife] Maria Catharina b. 2/16/1728 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Johann Michael b. 3/26/1730 [spon: Michael Müller and wife] Anna Maria b.1/17/1739 [spon:Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Margretha Elisabetha b 3/21/1741 [spons: Margaretha Elisabetha Rith and Hannes Schäffer] Elisabeth b. 12/14/1743 [spon: Johann Reinhardt Rohrer and wife. Here is a note about the church from the same source by Wright: Originally Lutheran it was organized between 1723-1727. The earliest surviving register is the one begun by Moravian pastors in 1742 wh en they took over the church and remained with them. The original is in the Mo ravian Archives, Bethlehem. The church is now Zion-St John's on East Main St, S touchsburg, near Tulpehocken, locating into town in 1895. Further info is shown in F Edward Wright's, 'Berks Co. Church Records of the 18 th century, Vol 3, page 72: Michael Schäffer b 1/15/1696, spons: Michel Suder and Anna Catharina Schäffer. Anna Margaretha Gleb b 9/8/1702, spons: Anna Margaretha Mershred They were married 11/22/1720 and their children listed are same as the ones listed above. I added sponsor info for their baptisms in [bra ckets], shown in this book, for each child shown above. This Anna Barbara is the earliest name I could find in 1730s in Berks Co. Hope this is her family. But may not be as there is a will abstract for this Mi chael Schäffer probated in 9/1760, Tulpehocken, wife Anna Margreta, and his dau Anna Barbara is married to a Phillip Brown. Oldest son is John Nicklaus. Young est daughter is Elisabeth. Dissappointed....sorry to give you all that info, a nd then see she is not the one you are looking for. Now here is another one born in Lancaster Co: This is from PA Births 1680-1800 , CD $196 by Family Tree Maker: Child: Anna Barbara Schäffer Birth/Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1730 Location: Muddy Creek Lutheran, East Cocalico Township County: Lancaster State: Pennsylvania Father: Johannes Schäffer Mother: Mrs. ??? Schäffer Muddy Creek is barely in Lancaster Co, west of Berks. Could she be the one you need? In Rev. John Casper Stoever's (Lutheran pastor) marriages: Anna Barbara Schäffer and Nicolaus Brosius were married 4/19/1752 at Altolhoe c hurch. Diana in AL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would lik e to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respon d on the board. ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== [3]PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, [4]PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: [5]http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: [6]http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]PABERKS-request@rootsw eb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the bo dy of the message References 1. mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com 2. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10479.1/mb.ashx 3. mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com 5. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks 6. http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ 7. mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertCGoodyear Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9695.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Correct. Berks County was established (erected) in 1752 from parts of Lancaster, Philadelphia and Chester Counties. My point was addressed to someone who claimed that Johann Georg Ludwig settled in erks County prior to 1752. Any documentation prior to 1752, such as ships manifests that claim a Johann Georg Ludwig(ck) came from the Palatinate into Philadelphia, and states his final destination was Berks County is absolutely incorrect. It is not known whether the person who wrote that, incorrectly transcribed it from the original ships manifest after 1752, or if he was just illiterate and uneducated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I too get frustrated by of people working in genealogy who have no clue as to the history. Examples are someone who had their family coming to America in the early 1800's on a "Cruise" ship. I believe if their ancestor knew what we consider a Cruise Ship they would have a different opinion. Another was a family that came to America in the same time period on a "Steamer". Steam did not come into use for ocean travel until many years later. However the area where a family lived is ever changing, and new areas are being created. West Virginia was created in during the Civil war. Arizona did not exist until the 1900's, but a lot of things occurred there prior to it becoming "Arizona". Sometimes the best way to describe where a family lived is to describe a territory by a later name. My ancestors came into the military district of Fort Wayne (The fort not the city). Allen County the location of Fort Wayne the city did not come into existence until 1824. It is easier to talk about them being in Allen Co, even though it did not exist, rather than saying they lived in the Military District of Fort Wayne which encompassed most of northern Indiana. Another area is Broome Co New York. My ancestors were in the area from about 1800 through the mid 1820's. It is easier to say they got married in Broome Co. rather than Tioga which is a significantly larger area. . While Chester Co had defined limits in 1851, the boundaries of Lancaster defined where it began, but the western end was not well defined and encompassed most of western Pennsylvania. Even to say they lived in Berks in 1852, does not say a lot, as it, like Lancaster, had its northern, eastern, and southern limits define but it stretch westward to an undefined border some where in western Pennsylvania. Family lore has one ancestor being born in "Lebanon" Pennsylvania. To the best of my research they never lived in Lebanon co or city, but lived in Reading and Philadelphia where their parents died. I believe the confusion comes from an old usage of geographic descriptions. Reading is what is called the Great Valley. It stretches from Georgia to New England. The area where Reading is located is in the portion called the Lebanon Valley. I suspect that some people of Philadelphia still refereed to that western region as the Lebanon Valley and over the generation the Valley got cut from where the boys were born. I don't know a solution to historical accuracy verse the need to know where your ancestors lived, but I think we have to cut some slack on this one Guns get blamed in shootings because the liberals say teaching the Ten Commandments with "Thou shall not kill" violate the separation of Church and State. On 1/2/2013 12:30 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: RobertCGoodyearA > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/9695.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Correct. Berks County was established (erected) in 1752 from parts of Lancaster, Philadelphia and Chester Counties. > > My point was addressed to someone who claimed that Johann Georg Ludwig settled in erks County prior to 1752. > > Any documentation prior to 1752, such as ships manifests that claim a Johann Georg Ludwig(ck) came from the Palatinate into Philadelphia, and states his final destination was Berks County is absolutely incorrect. > > It is not known whether the person who wrote that, incorrectly transcribed it from the original ships manifest after 1752, or if he was just illiterate and uneducated. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
from 1930 census, Spring Twp., Berks County, PA Tulpehocken Beach Colony George Gring Head age 49 born PA occupation Plasterer-construction Fannie wife age 42 born PA George Jr son age 21 born PA occupation laborer - textile mill Harvey son age 16 born PA occupation laborer - textile mill Florence daughter age 12 born PA Howard son age 3 born PA Susan Shenk mother-in-law age 79 born PA Ma**? Gring daughter-in-law age 15 born PA (transcribed as Wayne but in 1940 census is Mamie, she is wife of George Jr) Albert H grandson age 0 born PA Hope this helps. Deb Stanish Reading, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: good yeich <good_yeich@netzero.com> To: PABERKS@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:10:54 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [PABERKS] (no subject) looking for parents of howard w gring /kring born 1927Thank YouDoug ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/50e44e163ef7f4e15244est04vuc ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolynkeene1 Surnames: Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10478.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There was a problem with photocopying PA WWII draft registration cards. Here is what Ancestry states: "Note regarding the images for the states of DE, MD, PA, and WV: These four states were microfilmed at the National Archives in such a way that the back of one person's draft card appears in the same image as the front of the next individual's card. Thus, when viewing the scanned image of each person's original draft card you will see the correct front side of each person's draft card, but the back side of the previous person's card. The draft cards for states other than Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia were microfilmed in a different manner and thus images of the original draft cards from those other states display correctly in the database." If you go to Image 20 at this link, you will note that the registrant immediately before your Gaetano lived in Reading and the card probably belongs to him (Joseph Giamboi). https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12122-56687-37?cc=1339071&wc=6239034 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Schäffer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10479.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jerry, In Berks Co Births 1710-1780, by John T Humphrey, there is an Anna Barbara SCHÄFFER born 4/4/1732 to Michael and Anna Margaret (GLEB) SCHÄFFER, [spons: Nicholas Schäffer and wife] in records of Reed's/Reith's Church, Marion Twp. They had several children at that church, including Johannes Nickolaus b 2/24/1722 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Hannes Adam Stern.] Johann Casper b. 10/7/1724 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Casper Schäffer Maria Margaretha b 9/29/1726 [spon: Michel Rith and wife] Maria Catharina b. 2/16/1728 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Johann Michael b. 3/26/1730 [spon: Michael Müller and wife] Anna Maria b.1/17/1739 [spon:Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Margretha Elisabetha b 3/21/1741 [spons: Margaretha Elisabetha Rith and Hannes Schäffer] Elisabeth b. 12/14/1743 [spon: Johann Reinhardt Rohrer and wife. Here is a note about the church from the same source by Wright: Originally Lutheran it was organized between 1723-1727. The earliest surviving register is the one begun by Moravian pastors in 1742 when they took over the church and remained with them. The original is in the Moravian Archives, Bethlehem. The church is now Zion-St John's on East Main St, Stouchsburg, near Tulpehocken, locating into town in 1895. Further info is shown in F Edward Wright's, 'Berks Co. Church Records of the 18th century, Vol 3, page 72: Michael Schäffer b 1/15/1696, spons: Michel Suder and Anna Catharina Schäffer. Anna Margaretha Gleb b 9/8/1702, spons: Anna Margaretha Mershred They were married 11/22/1720 and their children listed are same as the ones listed above. I added sponsor info for their baptisms in [brackets], shown in this book, for each child shown above. This Anna Barbara is the earliest name I could find in 1730s in Berks Co. Hope this is her family. But may not be as there is a will abstract for this Michael Schäffer probated in 9/1760, Tulpehocken, wife Anna Margreta, and his dau Anna Barbara is married to a Phillip Brown. Oldest son is John Nicklaus. Youngest daughter is Elisabeth. Dissappointed....sorry to give you all that info, and then see she is not the one you are looking for. Now here is another one born in Lancaster Co: This is from PA Births 1680-1800, CD $196 by Family Tree Maker: Child: Anna Barbara Schäffer Birth/Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1730 Location: Muddy Creek Lutheran, East Cocalico Township County: Lancaster State: Pennsylvania Father: Johannes Schäffer Mother: Mrs. ??? Schäffer Muddy Creek is barely in Lancaster Co, west of Berks. Could she be the one you need? In Rev. John Casper Stoever's (Lutheran pastor) marriages: Anna Barbara Schäffer and Nicolaus Brosius were married 4/19/1752 at Altolhoe church. Diana in AL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
While a slight shift in subject, I saw several things in your message that caught my eye. My 3rd great grandmother Maria (Mary) Schaver (Schäffer) She was born in 1795 and was married to Joshua (Joseph) Barlet on Jun 08, 1817 at Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg, Berks County, Pennsylvania. Joshua Barlet b: Feb 03, 1795 d: Nov 21, 1869 and his wife are found in the 1830 and 1840 in Heidelberg Twp and in the 1850 and 1860 census in Lower Heidelberg Twp. They had 2 children that I have identified Johnathan Barlett b:1824 and Ephraim b:1826. There are three other suspected children; William Samuel and Levenia. Joshua and Mary moved to what is now Mulberry Street in Reading by 1869 and by 1870 they were living in the Rickstown area of Reading where Joshua died. He is buried at the St John Hain Church. There are several events for the family in the church records. Maria is found in the 1870 census in the 6th Ward Reading, but her death date is unknown. She was alive in 1873 living in Rickstown when her son Ephraim died. By chance Is this family in your database? I have been working on this family for 10 years. I first learned from the census that Ephraim Barlet was my 2nd great grandfather and at first thought at first his parents were Daniel and Eva Barlet. I then found Ephraim obituary which gave me Joseph and Mary Barlet as his parents. It took me some years to associate Joseph Barlet with Joshua Barlet the son of Sebastian Barlet. Guns get blamed in shootings because the liberals say teaching the Ten Commandments with "Thou shall not kill" violate the separation of Church and State. On 1/2/2013 5:39 AM, [1]gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audianaq41 Surnames: Schäffer Classification: queries Message Board URL: [2]http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti es.berks/10479.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jerry, In Berks Co Births 1710-1780, by John T Humphrey, there is an Anna Barbara SCH ÄFFER born 4/4/1732 to Michael and Anna Margaret (GLEB) SCHÄFFER, [spons: Nicho las Schäffer and wife] in records of Reed's/Reith's Church, Marion Twp. They had several children at that church, including Johannes Nickolaus b 2/24/1722 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Hannes Ad am Stern.] Johann Casper b. 10/7/1724 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife and Casper Schäff er Maria Margaretha b 9/29/1726 [spon: Michel Rith and wife] Maria Catharina b. 2/16/1728 [spon: Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Johann Michael b. 3/26/1730 [spon: Michael Müller and wife] Anna Maria b.1/17/1739 [spon:Nickolaus Schäffer and wife] Margretha Elisabetha b 3/21/1741 [spons: Margaretha Elisabetha Rith and Hannes Schäffer] Elisabeth b. 12/14/1743 [spon: Johann Reinhardt Rohrer and wife. Here is a note about the church from the same source by Wright: Originally Lutheran it was organized between 1723-1727. The earliest surviving register is the one begun by Moravian pastors in 1742 wh en they took over the church and remained with them. The original is in the Mo ravian Archives, Bethlehem. The church is now Zion-St John's on East Main St, S touchsburg, near Tulpehocken, locating into town in 1895. Further info is shown in F Edward Wright's, 'Berks Co. Church Records of the 18 th century, Vol 3, page 72: Michael Schäffer b 1/15/1696, spons: Michel Suder and Anna Catharina Schäffer. Anna Margaretha Gleb b 9/8/1702, spons: Anna Margaretha Mershred They were married 11/22/1720 and their children listed are same as the ones listed above. I added sponsor info for their baptisms in [bra ckets], shown in this book, for each child shown above. This Anna Barbara is the earliest name I could find in 1730s in Berks Co. Hope this is her family. But may not be as there is a will abstract for this Mi chael Schäffer probated in 9/1760, Tulpehocken, wife Anna Margreta, and his dau Anna Barbara is married to a Phillip Brown. Oldest son is John Nicklaus. Young est daughter is Elisabeth. Dissappointed....sorry to give you all that info, a nd then see she is not the one you are looking for. Now here is another one born in Lancaster Co: This is from PA Births 1680-1800 , CD $196 by Family Tree Maker: Child: Anna Barbara Schäffer Birth/Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1730 Location: Muddy Creek Lutheran, East Cocalico Township County: Lancaster State: Pennsylvania Father: Johannes Schäffer Mother: Mrs. ??? Schäffer Muddy Creek is barely in Lancaster Co, west of Berks. Could she be the one you need? In Rev. John Casper Stoever's (Lutheran pastor) marriages: Anna Barbara Schäffer and Nicolaus Brosius were married 4/19/1752 at Altolhoe c hurch. Diana in AL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jerrybrosious Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10479/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello to this List and though I've beem a subscriber for a couple years or more I'm quite sure I've never posted anything. This query regards my ancestor Anna Barbara Schaffer (born around 1730) who married Nicholas Brosius (Johan Nicolaus) "at Atalhoe" 14 April 1752. Around the time of the Revoltionary War Barbara and Nicholas settled in Northumberland County, PA. Countless Schaffer (and variations) as well as Brosius (wuth variations) lines "came to be" in Northumberland County, PA. BUT the point of this query is to ask for me, a signifcant question: Can anyone weigh in as to the identity of the parents of Anna Barbara Schaffer who married Nicholas Brosius (Brosious)? Over the course of decades (yes) I have seen a remarkable cast of candidates from internet postings for the parents of Anna Barbara Schaffer. Recently I made a list and I think I came up with around a half dozen couples who show as parents of this specific Barbara Schaffer who married Nicholas Brosius.! (Without checking I recall seing Adam, Caper, Johannes and others for her father). I would love to hear from anyone who believes she/he has good, solid, and ideally documented information for the true parents of Anna BARBARA Schaffer Brosious. Thanks so much in advance! Jerry Brosious in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blondie4091 Surnames: Alessandro, Gervasi, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10478/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for family of my grand father's sibs. His sister, Concetta Gervasi married Antonio Alessandro. They had a dau. Elvira who married Gaetano Giambono (abt. 1922), spelling may vary...Gambone, Giambona, etc. This Gaetano had a WW11 Draft card in Reading,PA. The d.o.b. matches & the name of someone who will always know him was Elvira Giambono. According to the 1940 census they had children Gilda, Michael, Daniel, & possibly Junior. The Gervasi's & Alessandro's were living in Phila.PA. Do any of these families sound familier? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello Betty, When I was looking up records for St. Henry's Cemetery in Moselem Springs at the Schwenkfelder Library, there was a record for the cemetery compiled in 1976 by Monseignor Charles Allwein of Most Blessed Sacrament Church in Bally. Father Allwein noted that he could not copy all the burials down because many stones were broken or too badly weather-worn to read or were buried in weeds and brush. Father Alwein noted that the cornerstone of St. Henry's Church was dated 1823 and when the Church was torn down the stones from the Church, including the cornerstone, were used in the wall of the cemetery. The cemetery is about 75 by 100 feet and can be approached from the road. Father Allwein noted that his sources for the cemetery were Schuyler C. Brossman who copied tombstones Sept 28, 1975, also a project of Boy Scouts of Sacred Heart Church, Allentown, Nov 1, 1966, and Monseignor Leo G. Fink's book "Old Jesuit Trails in Penn's Forest." My brother had gone to the cemetery maybe 10 years ago and it is the middle of a field and at that time was very overgrown, pretty much a jungle. He tried taking some pictures of the tombstones. He was able to photograph tombstones for Barbara Lovina Thompson, wife of Isaac Thompson; Solomon, son of Thomas and Maria Dum; Thomas, son of Jacob and Mariana? Dumm; Mary Elizabeth Dum, wife of Thomas; and Jacob Michael Dum, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Dum. Christine Schultz --- On Mon, 12/31/12, Betty J. Burdan <bjburdan@dejazzd.com> wrote: From: Betty J. Burdan <bjburdan@dejazzd.com> Subject: [PABERKS] St. Henry's Mission To: PABerks@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 4:44 PM Can anyone tell me anything about St. Henry's RC Mission in Richmond Township, Berks County? It seems to have been in operation 1823 to 1865. There was a church and a graveyard. I think both of these reverted to St. Mary's RC Church, Hamburg who sold the land it to Jacob Hoch in 1872. The church is no longer standing, but the graveyard is still there. In the deed to Jacob Hoch it claims the tract of 3 acres 56 perches was part of a patent that was granted on April 24, 1810 in Patent Book H. Volume 2, page 382 and 364. I assume this patent book reference is to records in Philadelphia. Betty Burdan ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If I remember correctly the patent books are on the PA Archives website. Good Luck, Todd On 01/01/13, Diana Quinones<audianaq@msn.com> wrote: Betty, Would this Patent Book H �be in Harrisburg at the Pennsylvania Archives? Diana �[1]audianaq@msn.com From: [2]bjburdan@dejazzd.com To: [3]PABerks@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012� Subject: [PABERKS] St. Henry's Mission Can anyone tell me anything about St. Henry's RC Mission in Richmond Township, Berks County? It seems to have been in operation 1823 to 1865. There was a church and a graveyard. I think both of these reverted to St. Mary's RC Church, Hamburg who sold the land it to Jacob Hoch in 1872. The church is no longer standing, but the graveyard is still there. In the deed to Jacob Hoch it claims the tract of 3 acres 56 perches was part of a patent that was granted on April 24, 1810 in Patent Book H. Volume 2, page 382 and 364. I assume this patent book reference is to records in Philadelphia. Betty Burdan ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== [4]PABERKS@rootsweb.com To contact the List Administrator: Rick Berkheiser, [5]PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com To visit the Berks Message Board: [6]http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa .states.pennsylvania.counties.berks To visit the Berks County, PA website: [7]http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ Hosted by Nancy Freehafer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [8]PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:audianaq@msn.com 2. mailto:bjburdan@dejazzd.com 3. mailto:PABerks@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:PABERKS@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com 6. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks 7. http://www.pa-roots.com/ 8. mailto:PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com
Betty, Would this Patent Book H be in Harrisburg at the Pennsylvania Archives? Diana audianaq@msn.com From: bjburdan@dejazzd.com To: PABerks@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 Subject: [PABERKS] St. Henry's Mission Can anyone tell me anything about St. Henry's RC Mission in Richmond Township, Berks County? It seems to have been in operation 1823 to 1865. There was a church and a graveyard. I think both of these reverted to St. Mary's RC Church, Hamburg who sold the land it to Jacob Hoch in 1872. The church is no longer standing, but the graveyard is still there. In the deed to Jacob Hoch it claims the tract of 3 acres 56 perches was part of a patent that was granted on April 24, 1810 in Patent Book H. Volume 2, page 382 and 364. I assume this patent book reference is to records in Philadelphia. Betty Burdan
Can anyone tell me anything about St. Henry's RC Mission in Richmond Township, Berks County? It seems to have been in operation 1823 to 1865. There was a church and a graveyard. I think both of these reverted to St. Mary's RC Church, Hamburg who sold the land it to Jacob Hoch in 1872. The church is no longer standing, but the graveyard is still there. In the deed to Jacob Hoch it claims the tract of 3 acres 56 perches was part of a patent that was granted on April 24, 1810 in Patent Book H. Volume 2, page 382 and 364. I assume this patent book reference is to records in Philadelphia. Betty Burdan
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seanmfisher1890s Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks/10374.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have also been stuck on a William Gottshall (c. 1824-1872) of Spring Township for many years. I am a descendant through his marriage with Rebecca Luft (1st marriage Freeman), and their son Lewis L. I have a death date of March 7, 1872, and a burial at Sinking Spring Cemetery (Removed Section; the area between the 2 St. John's churches). I have been unable to locate his obituary and any information of his parents. Please correspond through regular e-mail at seanmfisher@comcast.net, as I am taking advantage of the free Ancestry that ends today (12/29). Thank you. Sean Fisher, Melrose, MA (from Berks County) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Find a grave is a good source of cemetery information, but there are local sources that are as good or better. In Allen County Indiana the Mary Penrose Daughters of the American Revolutions has photographed most of the smaller cemeteries in Allen County, and are now working on the large cemeteries. These photos are all on line at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~inallcem/ The nice thing about this site is they start in the front corner and photograph every grave until they get to the back opposite corner. If there is a stone there is a picture, so if your ancestor is not there, the stone does not exist. Interestingly for one of my ancestors we were able to identify his stone in a photo of an unreadable stone. I had found the receipt for his tombstone is some very old papers I inherited. Based on the invoice and the photo we identified his stone. The DAR placed the invoice on their site along with the picture. I wonder how many 130 year old stones have been identified using the original purchase order? Guns get blamed in shootings because the liberals say teaching the Ten Commandments with "Thou shall not kill" violate the separation of Church and State. On 12/29/2012 11:28 AM, Michelle Fegley Wahrenberger wrote: > I am deeply saddened by what happened at Aulenbach. I live in Ohio and we > had a bad wind storm last spring and a cemetery with many trees was badly > hit and many trees lost large limbs which destroyed a lot of tombstones as > well. So nature can destroy as well as man. > > Anyway one thing I am doing is I am photographing an entire cemetery, and > putting the photos on FindAGrave.com. Perhaps some of you could help, by > spending a spare hour in a cemetery and photographing part of it and > uploading the photos on Find A Grave. I have found some of my ancestors > burial places from Find A Grave. There are people around the country and > internationally who would benefit from this. I have received 2 international > thank yous, for my effort. I have photographed almost all of Good Shepherd I > may have missed some plus they are adding regularly. I currently have most > of the back sections of Alsace Cemetery photographed. I am currently putting > on the last section in the back. I still have to photograph the old section > beside Grace Alsace Church. I will do this probably in March on my next > visit. > > Michelle in Ohio > > > ==== PABERKS Mailing List ==== > PABERKS@rootsweb.com > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, PABERKS-admin@rootsweb.com > > To visit the Berks Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.berks > > To visit the Berks County, PA website: > http://www.pa-roots.com/~berks/ > Hosted by Nancy Freehafer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PABERKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >